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Huge Spring Sale: 20% of all trainers, many power meters, and plenty more

VIPSale

It’s that time of year again – the semi-annual VIP 20% off sale! As with last fall and last spring, there are some amaze-balls deals in here.  And while my title says all trainers and many power meters, the reality is that this applies to boatloads more devices/products too, especially if you think outside the box.

Historically speaking we see the biggest sports tech sales clustered in two timeframes: November (up to/around Black Friday), and May. Currently, it’s May. May usually brings sales from all wearable tech companies, as they often try and offload older products ahead of the summer.  We’ve seen that the last few weeks with a slew of product sales rotating through.

So for background, in general sales fall into two buckets:

A) Retailer driven sales
B) Manufacturer driven sales (specified by the manufacturer, but then sold through retailers)

Within the US, manufacturers have to approve virtually all sales, to stay compliant with MAP policies (Minimum Advertised Price).  Said MAP concept doesn’t exist elsewhere.  So in the case of the Garmin and other sales below, those fall into bucket ‘B’ above.  Whereas everything else in this post falls into bucket ‘A’ above. Make sense?  Good.

So we’ve got one major sale here being driven by Clever Training for 20% off, though we’ve actually got a couple Garmin & Suunto sideshow sales on a handful of wearables as well.  Ironically, all of which are current year models (usually they’ve been older models).  As with past years, I expect we’ll see a handful more sales this month, though I wouldn’t expect any overlap with the way you could save 20% off on a given included product.

Said differently: No, you’re not going to see 20% off on Vector this month (or anytime soon), nor will you see 30% off on a Tacx Neo. Make sense?

Manufacturer-Specific Sales:

Here’s the handful of manufacturer driven sales that are currently announced:

Current DealsRegular PriceSale PriceStartEndAmazonClever TrainingOther siteSale Notes
Copyright DC Rainmaker - Updated May 20th, 2018 @ 9:42 am
CycleOps Products - All 20% off!-20% offMay 18 2018May 30 2018N/ALinkThis includes CycleOps Trainers, including the Hammer and Magnus!
Garmin Edge 25$169$50 offMay 18 2018May 28 2018LinkLink$50 off both base and bundle units. I suspect with the (far more functional) Edge 130 recently announced at $199, it makes the $169 Edge 25 a bit pricey looking.
Garmin Edge 520$249$50 off! (now $199)May 18 2018May 28 2018LinkLink⚡Woah, this is the lowest price we've seen on this unit, which is now sub-$200. Obviously this is driven by the new Edge 520 Plus that was announced a month ago (at $279).
Garmin Fenix5 (5/5S/5X)$599$100 offMay 18 2018Jun 16 2018LinkLink⚡This first time we've seen the Fenix 5 on sale in 2018. The only other time it was on sale was for Black Friday.
Garmin Vivoactive 3$269$20 off ($249 now)Apr 29 2018Jun 16 2018LinkLinkAn oddly long duration period, but as usual matches the Fitbit Ionic on price. The two companies have virtually always matched each others sales since launch days apart last summer.
Garmin Vivosport$169$20 off ($149 now)Apr 29 2018Jun 16 2018LinkLink
GoPro Hero5 Black + 32GB SD$299$50 off (now $249)May 20 2018Jun 02 2018LinkLinkA fairly common deal for the Hero5 Black these days, but still quite good if you're in the market for one.
Pioneer Power Meter (L/R Model)$999May 01 2018Jun 01 2018LinkLinkFree cycling head unit with purchase of left/right Pioneer power meter. Includes their $299 head unit. Plus you can stack that with the Clever Training 20% off VIP deal too!
Saris Cycling Racks/Accessories-20% offMay 18 2018May 30 2018N/ALinkGot a car? Got a bike? Seems like a solution here. This is a pretty typical sale we see a couple times a year.
Wahoo ELEMNT - $80 rebate!$329$80 rebate, down to $249May 18 2018Jun 15 2018LinkLinkNote: This is NOT valid on the BOLT, just the larger ELEMNT. But it is valid on both the base and bundle variants.

I’d keep checking back on the above table, especially over the next week or so.  As most of the times manufacturers have lit up deals by mid-May.  The table automatically updates as soon as a new deal shows up.

Clever Training 20% VIP SALE:

In this sale, each Clever Training (CT) VIP member is given a coupon code (SPRINGVIP) that’s good for 20% off a single non-sale item including all trainers and most power meters.  It doesn’t matter if that item is the Tacx Neo trainer, Wahoo KICKR 3 (2017) trainer, a WatTeam power meter, or Oakley aero helmets.  Your choice, but it’s only available to CT VIP members.

There are a handful of limitations, most notably that it’s not valid on Garmin, GoPro, Fitbit, Quarq, Favero, and a few others I list down below in the restrictions. Those are all manufacturer driven restrictions. Note: The Favero Assioma pedals are still valid with the usual 10% off DCR Coupon Code (DCR10BTF).

With that in mind, there are some incredible deals to be had for trainers and power meters here – or other high-value items.  Especially new trainers and newly released power meters.  Here’s some quick guidance on both categories:

Power Meters: As I said earlier this year, I do not expect 2018 to be rich in new power meters, or significant price shifts.  You’ve got the new SRM pedal-based power meter coming in a few weeks (they recently said to stay tuned for June 1st), but we don’t know a lot of details on that at this point (be it accuracy, pods or no pods, or price-point).  Beyond that, virtually every major player in the market has released or started shipping a new power meter in the last 12-16 months. And there’s of course been a handful of Kickstarter and startup projects too recently. Certainly, it’s likely someone unknown might come out of the woodwork this summer at Eurobike or Interbike, but I wouldn’t expect any summer 2018 announcements to result in new summer 2018 shipments (since it never historically has worked that way). So basically – if you want a power meter for this year and want to save 20%, it won’t get better than this.  Here’s my power meter buyers guide a well.

Trainers: Trainers are trickier of course, especially with Eurobike now shifted to July. We typically see new trainers announced at Eurobike/Interbike, though the last few years we saw them as early as June. I think we’ll be back to Eurobike though again for anything meaningful.  And remember, none were available earlier than Eurobike (only the new Wahoo KICKR3 and new Elite trainers managed to be available then), while virtually everyone else was delayed into late fall and beyond. Despite these companies’ best intentions to be shipping in August/September, it didn’t often happen.  I do expect 2018 to be a reasonably solid year for indoor cycling gear, but not necessarily massive changes in new models of trainers. I think you’re mostly going to see companies shift towards the Wahoo/Apple model of minor tweaks this year to a given product and stamping it with a new version number.

Meaning, if you see an option on the market you like today – go for it.  If however you want the latest and greatest next fall and don’t mind waiting until fall for availability…then hold your cards.  Here’s my Winter 2017-2018 trainer recommendations post, which still holds true today.

The sale is members only, but it’s simple to get started. If you’re already a member, just skip step #2.

  1. Pick out the item you want to buy and add to cart (see below list as a starting point)
  2. Add the Clever Training VIP membership to your cart
  3. Add VIP members-only coupon code (SPRINGVIP) upon checkout to save 20%.
  4. Enjoy gadget!

There are too many deals to list, because obviously that’d be tens of thousands of items that Clever Training carries, even running shoes and other sports gear.  But you can find all power meters Clever Training carries here on their power meter landing page.

CT_VIPLogo_Rainmaker_AllLogosNew

And all trainers Clever Training lists are carried here on the trainer landing page (it’s basically everyone).

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I’m going to call out the most notable sports-tech ones in the table below:

DCR Best Tech Deals - Spring 2018

ItemYear Announced Regular Price Review/Related Post
4iiii Power Meters2015-2017$399DCR Post Here
Cycliq Fly12 CE Front Bike Light/CameraFall 2017$279DCR Post Here
Cycliq Fly6 CE Back Bike Light/CameraFall 2017$179DCR Post Here
Coros Linx Smart Helmet (what I use)Late 2016$199DCR Post Here
Elite Drivo Trainer Late 2016$1,299DCR Post Here
Elite Direto TrainerSummer 2017$899DCR Post Here
Elite RampaLate 2016$649DCR Post Here
CycleOps HammerLate 2016$1,199DCR Post Here
CycleOps MagnusLate 2016$599DCR Post Here
Lezyne Super GPS Bike ComputerMid-2016$149DCR Post Here
NPE Cable ANT+ to Bluetooth Smart ConverterSpring 2017$59DCR Post Here
Pioneer Power Meters2015-2017$499DCR Post Here
Polar M460 GPS Bike ComputerApril 2017$329DCR Post Here
Polar OH-1 Optical SensorFall 2017$79DCR Post Here
Polar M600 GPS Android Wear WatchLate 2016$329DCR Post Here
PowerTap P1 Power Meter Pedals2015$799DCR Post Here
STAC Zero Trainer (with power)2017$479DCR Post Here
Quadlock Bike MountsFrom Fall 2017from $29DCR Post Here
RunScribe PlusFall 2017$249DCR Post Here
Scosche Rhythm 24Winter 2018$99DCR Post Here
Shimano Dura-Ace FC-R9100-P Power MeterFall 2017$1,549DCR Post Here
Suunto Sparies Series (Ultra/Sport/Wrist HR)2016-2017$329DCR Post Here
Suunto Spartan Trainer Wrist HR2017$277DCR Post Here
Stages Power Meters2015-2017From $529DCR Post Here
Stages LR Dual Power MetersLate 2017From $999DCR Post Here
Stages Dash Bike GPS2017$299DCR Post Here
Tacx Flux SmartLate 2017$899DCR Post Here
Tacx NEO Smart 2017 EditionLate 2016$1,599DCR Post Here
Tacx Bushido Smart2014$799DCR Post Here
Velocomp PowerPod Dual ANT+/BLEFall 2017$299-$325DCR Post Here
Wahoo KICKR Trainer 2017 (most recent)Fall 2017$1,199DCR Post Here
Wahoo KICKR SNAP Trainer 2017 (most recent)Summer 2017$599DCR Post Here
Wahoo TICKR-FITJanuary 20198$79DCR Post Here
WatTeam PowerBeat Gen2 DualFall 2017$399DCR Post Here

Then there’s a pile of non-sports tech products that last year a bunch of you bought, or talked about. Or that you probably didn’t even know would be included in a sale like this but it’s worthwhile noting.  I figured I’d dig into the analytics from last time and see what oddities you bought that I didn’t mention as well. I suppose if some of you bought these, there might be something that others will appreciate as well

All Oakley Sunglasses
Oakley Cycling Helmets – $180-$250 normally
Redshift Sports Cycling Components
Topeak Bike Travel Cases – $799 normally
Yeti Coolers/Cups (apparently y’all liked this stuff last time, I’ve never touched one)

So you’re probably wondering about that VIP requirement?  That’s basically akin to what REI does with their twice-yearly members-only sale.  Except in this case, the Clever Training VIP membership only costs $4.99.  And the proceeds of that go to ‘Girls On The Run’, a running focused charity.  So it’s basically a win-win.  You get a massive savings, and an awesome charity gets supported.

And of course, your gadgetry purchase helps support the site here (as all Clever Training purchases do).

Here’s what I expect to be a few frequently asked questions:

How many items can I get a discount for?

One item. Just one, and only one.

Is this per household?

No, it’s one item per member.  Thus, if you have multiple unique VIP members in a household, then you can have multiple people.  You can sign-up to be a Clever Training VIP member here.  I explain more of the details here.

Which brands doesn’t it work on?

At this time, it’s not valid on Garmin, GoPro, Quarq, Favero, and Fitbit.  Also, the Wahoo ELEMNT/ELEMNT BOLT and Wahoo Desk are excluded.

In the cart it says it doesn’t work?

Validate that you only have one item in the cart, and that it’s not one of the above listed items.

Do I get VIP points on top of this?

No, since it’s a large sale item. No double-dipping here.

Are there some fancy details I can read somewhere?

Yes, right here (middle of page, some text).

When does this end?

May 23rd, 2018 at 11:59PM US Eastern Time.

What happens when it ends?

It’s over. End of the road.  Time to eat Ben and Jerry’s Ice Cream.

Is shipping free?

Yes, US shipping is free as long as your order is over $49.  For items that can be shipped internationally, it’s $29 flat rate.  Generally speaking, trainers can’t be shipped internationally.

What about Clever Training Europe?

Unfortunately, this sale is CT US focused.  However, you are welcome to ship any items that they can overseas, which is the $29 flat rate noted in the previous question item.  You will have to do customs on your own, but if you live overseas as I do you’re familiar with that game. And you’d be able to do the math on whether it makes sense given any fees you might face.  In most cases it probably will still save you money, especially for more expensive items.

As for the ‘why’ of not having this deal in CT Europe, it’s somewhat simple: There’s already an always-on 10% off coupon deal there.  Obviously that’s different than 20% off, but that gets into some of the differences between the US having ‘MAP’ (Minimum Advertised Price) policies, whereas the rest of the world (including Europe) sees that as illegal.  I explain a bit more in detail back this past fall.

To be super clear – it’s definitely something that Clever Training Europe would love to do, but it simply has to be viable from a business standpoint too.

Is this the end of the FAQ section?

Yes…you made it!

Phew – there ya have it! Go forth and enjoy.  And feel free to drop any questions you have down below on recommendations, etc… I’d be happy to try and help ya out.  Thanks for the support!

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73 Comments

  1. I wish that there was a clear winner in the power meter category. Each placement has so many different caveats and price points. 20% is a pretty great deal, and Clever Training is a fantastic shop.

    • Indeed, I think we’ll eventually get to the point whereby one of two things will happen:

      A) Power meters become dial-tone within cranksets: My guess is this is at least 3-6 years away from high end cranksets (i.e. Dura-Ace), and 5-8 years away for cheaper (Ultegra and eventually 105).

      B) Pedal based power meters will likely be where most efforts end up. Right now there are of course pedal type limitations, but that’s eventually going to go away and it’ll be harder and harder to have reasons not to get a pedal based power meter, especially as prices continue to drop.

      On the bright side – more choice means lower prices. Power meter pricing has dropped like a rock in recent years, and as we see new players (even ones that fail), that drives others to produce better products and lower cost products.

    • You’re absolutely right. I’m looking at the Vector 3s as my power meter, but the price point is just a bit high. I appreciate all the reviews you are doing on the various products in this area as it’s helpful to get something that works for each rider.

    • Eli

      If power meters come with the cranks and not as a large markup then it would seem like all non crank makers will fail in the long term. Pedals would also be a long term failure if you’re just going to attach them to cranks that can already measure power.

    • Yup, totally agree (very long term).

      Of course, that assumes other tech doesn’t come along which becomes cheaper or easier to integrate elsewhere that does it more accurately.

  2. Stuart

    The image for the power meters (as distinct from the text-based link) links to an image on the media.dcrainmaker.com website. I’m guessing that that wasn’t what was intended.

    Also: no Quarq and no Garmin? Vector 3, I can understand, considering that it’s still relatively new and companies are struggling to keep it in stock, but even the older Vectors? Ouch. Guess I’ll be heading over to a UK-based mob I know that will sell me the Quarq SRAM Red DZero for a shade under $AU1k, then. (Under $US750… I’d love to support the site, but when the price difference is that great…)

    • Thanks for the catch on the image, updated link – appreciate it!

      For Quarq, yeah, it’s ultimately a manuf choice. Older Vectors actually probably would be allowed to be honest, since I don’t believe they’re under MAP. I can double-check. Though honestly I’d have a hard time recommending Vector 2 at $800 over PowerTap P1 (which are dual ANT+/BLE) at the same $800. Especially since Vector 2 still require pods.

    • Stuart

      Oh, there’s no way I’d buy Vector 1 or 2 now, not unless they were at a steep discount to the price for a new set of Vector 3 or similar pedals. Just the way it was worded implied that no Garmin product would fall under the discount code, which surprised me (especially for the older products).

      Is there any likelihood of the situation on the Quarq changing, or is it pretty much set in stone? (Read: I’m happy to delay the purchase to help support the site, if it’s likely to change, but if it’s fixed, then so be it.)

      Oh – and there’s the same issue for the very first image in the body, the one with the Wahoo, Tacx, etc. (Sorry, only just noticed it.)

    • Ahh, yeah, I think technically it works on non-MAP products (which are all older things), but I didn’t try and figure out what those are. I’ll have them circle back with confirmation one way or the other on it, and if there are some older things that it’s valid on, I’ll create a list.

      I don’t think we’ll see Quarq change their position on this one. Obviously they could, and obviously it’d help them sell units, but it sounds like they’re sticking with that position.

      No worries on the first image, it was just meant to be a pretty header pic – but I agree, logical to direct that to somewhere. Thanks!

  3. Eli

    Pioneer power meters have a free head unit offer to go with them. link to pioneerelectronics.com

  4. Ryan

    Ouch. Put off my Assioma purchase for two months only to find they are excluded.

    • Yeah, it was an unexpected last minute change last week. :( Sad Panda too.

    • Ryan

      I pulled the trigger anyway with the basic 10%, but the two month delay was the most disappointing. However, I spent hours researching and reading, so I really appreciated your review. It was a deciding factor.

    • Jason

      I pulled the trigger myself on the Assioma’s last week, got impatient waiting for a sale. When I saw the email this morning I was annoyed… until I saw that Favero was excluded so I guess my impatience worked in my favor for once.

  5. Nighthawk700

    Does the sale work for pre-orders, e.g. the Scosche Rhythm 24? I was hoping your review would come out before or during the sale, but it sounds like things are being kicked down the road a little. Any new thoughts that weren’t covered in your Hands On? And just for a sanity check, the sale won’t work on even non GPS Garmin items? (such as the RD Pod)

    Thanks

    • Yup, works for pre-order items that are listed. The Rhythm 24 is listed and totally one you can do. Whereas Wahoo has made the KICKR CLIMB available for purchase/order yet, so that one doesn’t work.

      Nothing major of concern that I’ve seen with the final Scosche 24 unit that I have. I haven’t pulled in the files from the last 3-4 days yet into the DCR Analyzer to really dig into every second, but while out for workouts, things seem in-line.

  6. Adam

    Considering that the Powertap pedals ARE on sale and Favero is not, does it make sense to go with P1s rather than Assiomas? Or are the rave reviews/rechargeability/lower stack height on the Assiomas worth an extra $80?

  7. John

    I had my credit card ready to go bought the VIP package last night, but could not get it to work on Assioma’s. Really disappointed. Power pedals was a luxury for me. Now I am considering waiting or just not doing it. That last minute decision did not make me happy! Grrr!

  8. John

    Ok I stayed until midnight, bought the VIP, and then it did not work. Found out hey were excluded. I am a bit irritated at Favero/Clever Training. I know probably not justified, but I have not had my coffee yet.

    I have waited for a month to buy the pedals. They were not excluded in the past. They still seem the best option for my Campy equipped, bike, but it is just not a fun purchase any more!

    Oh yeah and it is raining! Great Monday!

    • Sorry John. Indeed, I suspect it may be lack of coffee driven. I tried to be super clear on the above (and them on CT’s terms too) that the Favero units weren’t included per manufacturer direction this time around.

      Still, I have no doubt that CT would happily refund you last night’s purchase. :) Unfortunately, they can’t do anything about the rain.

    • John

      You were very clear as always. I went to Clever Training last night and saw the VIP discount and started before your article

      If I remember correctly the VIP membership goes to charity so I will not Pursue a refund.

      I have had coffee now I am no longer irritated. It also stopped raining so life is good 😊. That being said I usually choose to spend my money elsewhere when a company ruins my fun. Was this a Farvero or Clever training decision?

    • No worries!

      No, it wasn’t a Clever Training decision.

    • John

      Ok, I will take Clever Training off of the “naughty” list.

      I have a Pinarello with Campy parts, so putting Italian pedals just seemed right. Alas, Favero is on the “naughty” list.

      I wish there were more viable/affordable options for power for Campy. I probably just should have my wheel rebuilt with a power tap hub.

  9. Anirudh

    Love reading your reviews

    However, 2 things:

    – Scosche Rhythm 24 is written as “announced in Winter 2018”.
    – Garmin Vivoactive 3 Black/Gunmetal is $279, not $249

    • Thanks!

      – The Scosche 24 is actually announced Winter 2018, as it was announced in January 2018 at CES
      – Vivoactive 3: I’m not sure I follow – the base Vivoactive 3 is $20 off, making it $249. The Gunmetal is the more fancy variant, which costs a bit more.

      Cheers.

  10. Daniel M

    Hi Ray,

    Based on your experience, which one would be a better deal for a first PM?
    – Powertap C1 for 350 USD
    – 4iiii Precision for 400 USD

    I know that the 4iiii is left-only, that is his major downside. The C1 would be a bit cheaper (even with selling my 6800 crankset and buying a used 105 5700 crankset on ebay). On the other hand, the C1 adds about 200 gramms to the bike and I also read a couple of other reviews which were complaining about the front shifting with the FSA rings.

    Do you have an idea which one is more reliable? I have read your C1 and 4iiii reviews and every single comment below those reviews, in both cases I have read good and bad alike. I am a hobby rider so I am not sure that I should pay much attention to the whole left-only argument…

    Which one would YOU get?

    Thanks a lot in advance!

    Best,
    Daniel

    • I’d go C1, purely because it’s total power versus left-only.

      In the case of support/etc, I think in general you’ll see better support/responsiveness out of PowerTap lately than 4iiii.

    • Daniel M

      Thanks Ray. I guess you didn’t notice any degradation with the front shifting after installing the C1, right? Same effortless shifting as before?

      Btw, the previous was my first comment here :) You are doing an awesome job, thank you for all your hard work you put into your reviews.

    • I didn’t have any issues at all there, no problems shifting. As one who rides wonky cranksets in my bikes that don’t match all the time, perhaps I get used to the oddities. But I think it honestly just comes down to fine tuning shifting anytime you swap cranksets.

      Thanks!

    • Ryan

      The C1 is really only available via PowerTap’s website, correct? Unfortunate because it’d be almost a no-brainer for me with a CT discount.

    • Daniel M

      Yes, officially only via the PT website, although I think you can still find it here or there.
      For example:
      link to performancebike.com

      The normal price for the C1 was around 5-6-700 USD, so even with 20% off from the old price, that would be a worse deal than buying it from the PT website.

      350 USD is a very good price for it, I think.

    • David Rosenthal

      Do not buy the c1 I repeat do not buy the C1 I went through 7 of them in 2 years all with water leakage in the battery compartment there is clearly a design and manufacturing issues being that the same thing persisted through 24 months of usage before I finally sold off the last warranty replacement on ebay. Also it only worked with a few of my frames and most of the cranks that fit it are outdated or heavy.

  11. Oskar

    Fly6 CE this morning. $138 after 20% and $5 credit. Been waiting for this.

    Next on the list (perhaps my wife joins up next week too), Stages XT crank.

  12. Steve E.

    Have you seen REI’s sale catalog (May 18 – 28)? It says the Fenix 5’s are $100 off. I think the date goes through 6/16 too, which makes me think that’s manufacturer driven.

    I don’t have it handy to post a pic of it though.

    • Nice, that sounds about right. If I can find a copy of the flyer, I’ll include it up above!

    • Found it! Indeed, Fenix 5 a flat $100 off, and also one of the older Garmin inReach models at $75 off. I’ll re-sort the chunks above a bit later to reflect those sales. Dates as you noted.

      Since those are standard Garmin sales, you’ll see them at any Garmin retailer.

    • Anthony

      Would we expect this sale to happen on Garmin’s website as well?

    • In theory.

      It’s live now on Amazon and Clever Training.

      I’ve added all the new sales into the upper section of the post:

      • $100 off all Fenix 5s – 5/18-6/16
      • $50 off Edge 25 units (base and bundle) – 5/18-5/28
      • 20% off on Saris and Cycleops – 5/18-5/30
      • $50 off Edge 520 5/18-5/28

      Enjoy!

  13. Jetfire

    Thanks for all you do. I started biking this year and already picked up a helmet and (today) the Stages LR power meter with the discount.

  14. chris

    I’ve been hoping we would see a power2max “summer” sale some time soon. But the US website hasn’t been updated in ages (it actually still lists last years summer sale) and the new mountain bike power meters haven’t even made it onto the US site. I only learned they had been available when I accidentally wondered onto the euro site a few weeks back.

  15. Patrick R

    > No, you’re not going to see 20% off on Vector this month
    > At this time, it’s not valid on Garmin (except Vector)

    I’m confused – what do you mean by “except Vector”?

  16. Rolf

    Hm I got excited to buy the Stages LR Ultegra power meter for a good price until I calculated the taxes and duties I would have to pay when shipping to Germany. So basically I can also buy it directly here :P (too bad though cause 20% is a pretty nice offer)

  17. Anthony W

    Coming from a Forerunner 235 I’m trying to figure out what which will ‘feel’ the most similar out of the Forerunner 935, 645 music, or Fenix 5. I’m worried some about the weight of the Fenix 5 but the 645 music does seem to be smaller on the display side. Any tips on making this choice?

    • I think if you look at the Fenix 5S, you’d find the weight/size in the same ballpark. The poles of the watch are a bit wider on the Fenix 5 series than the Forerunner though.

    • Eli

      Why even consider the Fenix 5? The 935 is basically a plastic version that has all the same functionality why spend more for something heavier?

      Now 935 vs 645? That’s harder

    • John

      I never do this, but I am mad at Favero for changing their exclusion policy for their pedals.

      I know I am overreacting for $70, but after waiting for this deal for a month this ruined my buying experience. Therefore, I am not going to buy from Favero even though they are the best solution!

      Sometimes I think companies do things because they know they can. Well I do not have to buy from them!

      Thank you Clever Training for the great sale. Ray as usual you are the best!

      Lastly, I am sorry about the negativity, but this just rubbed me the wrong way.

    • Stuart

      Why consider the Fenix 5? Style. The Fenix series is designed to be more of a stylish fashion accessory, rather than the utilitarian design of the 935.

      For some people, that’s important. It isn’t for me (which is why I have the 935; I’m more interested in the function than the form), but your tastes and mine are not everybody’s.

    • Dan

      Eye of the beholder. I think the 935 looks far better than the bulky, ugly Fenix watches.

    • Stuart

      As do I, Dan, although obviously some would disagree with that opinion. The 5S is decent in its styling and size (it’s the only one of the Fenix series I’d consider wearing on my wrist; the others are far too big), but has the issue of a shorter battery life – on par with the 735XT.

      Choice is a wonderful thing, is it not? It’s almost as if everybody is free to choose whichever watch suits their needs, tastes, and desires… ;)

  18. Rob

    I also noticed that if you purchase any Pioneer Dual Leg Power Meter or Dual Power Meter Kit from Biketiresdirect.com you will get to receive a free Pioneer SGX-CA500 Cycle Computer

  19. Paul

    Should I get the Wahoo KICKR now or wait to see what new trainers come out?

    • It’s always the usual question this time of year.

      My response is obviously hindered by NDA’s. But, my guidance tends to be the same each year:

      If you want a trainer that you can use before ~September/October, get what’s available now. Whereas, if you plan to ride outside between now and then, then consider waiting to see if something better comes along. Generally speaking most trainers announced at Eurobike/Interbike start to ship by September, with most of the time companies sorting things out by October. There are still numerous examples where by either delays or backorders, a given unit won’t ship to you until Nov/Dec, even January or February sometimes.

  20. Dan

    Phew, that’s a lot to read to discover it’s not Garmin, and not Europe.

  21. Roady

    Ray, correction – The rear FLY camera is the FLY6, not the FLY12 Rear (as listed) :)

  22. Bill

    I tried with the Kickr and got the following message

    “Coupon ‘SPRINGVIP’ was not applied due to more than 1 item being in cart or the added item is ineligible for this promotion.”