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Huge Spring Sale: 20% of all trainers, many power meters, and plenty more

VIPSale

It’s that time of year again – the semi-annual VIP 20% off sale! As with last fall and last spring, there are some amaze-balls deals in here.  And while my title says all trainers and many power meters, the reality is that this applies to boatloads more devices/products too, especially if you think outside the box.

Historically speaking we see the biggest sports tech sales clustered in two timeframes: November (up to/around Black Friday), and May. Currently, it’s May. May usually brings sales from all wearable tech companies, as they often try and offload older products ahead of the summer.  We’ve seen that the last few weeks with a slew of product sales rotating through.

So for background, in general sales fall into two buckets:

A) Retailer driven sales
B) Manufacturer driven sales (specified by the manufacturer, but then sold through retailers)

Within the US, manufacturers have to approve virtually all sales, to stay compliant with MAP policies (Minimum Advertised Price).  Said MAP concept doesn’t exist elsewhere.  So in the case of the Garmin and other sales below, those fall into bucket ‘B’ above.  Whereas everything else in this post falls into bucket ‘A’ above. Make sense?  Good.

So we’ve got one major sale here being driven by Clever Training for 20% off, though we’ve actually got a couple Garmin & Suunto sideshow sales on a handful of wearables as well.  Ironically, all of which are current year models (usually they’ve been older models).  As with past years, I expect we’ll see a handful more sales this month, though I wouldn’t expect any overlap with the way you could save 20% off on a given included product.

Said differently: No, you’re not going to see 20% off on Vector this month (or anytime soon), nor will you see 30% off on a Tacx Neo. Make sense?

Manufacturer-Specific Sales:

Here’s the handful of manufacturer driven sales that are currently announced:

ProductSale PriceAmazonOther siteSale Notes
4iiii Precision Ride-Ready Power Meters - $100 off!$235This is for their non-drive power meter, in either the 'Ride-Ready' config (they send you a completed unit), or $50 off for the factory-install (where you send in your crank arm). The Ride Ready option is really a solid deal, considering you get a reliable power meter for $235. Ride Ready R7000 - 30% off Ride Ready R8000 - 20% off Factory Install - 20% off
9th Gen Apple 10.2-inch iPad (Wi-Fi, 64GB) - $100 off!$229⚡ This is an awesome deal. I use my iPad primarily for TrainerRoad as well as Zwift when not with a larger display. I also occasionally use it for other apps, namely Wahoo SYSTM, Rouvy, and Peloton. But I pretty much test every smart trainer app on it. For all these cycling apps, the graphics capabilities is really pretty irrelevant, so having the absolute top-end/latest model won't make any difference. I prefer the budget options.
Amazfit Cheetah Pro - $30 off!$269
Apple AirPods Pro (2nd Gen with USB-C) - $60 off$189I've been using these the past few months, after years of using the Beats Studio Buds...man, these things rock. My wife has already started stealing them, which means she'll probably get a set for Christmas so she'll stop sealing them.
Apple AirTags (4-Pack) - 20% off!$79⚡I make no secret how much I utilize AirTags, mainly, cause they've saved my butt numerous times already. We have them in every suitcase, and every backpack, and every bike bag. They're also hidden in most of our bikes (sometimes two of them). We were able to get our cargo bike back when it disappeared, as well as figure out when all our suitcases went missing during an annual family vacation where they were (for 5 days!), and plan appropriately. Seriously, just get them.
Apple Airpods (2nd Gen) - $40 off!
$159
$89These aren't the latest anymore, that's the newer 3rd gen units. But if budget is in mind, it's hard to beat these. It's still what my wife uses as her daily driver, including tons of time on the indoor trainer/bike.
Apple Watch SE (2022/2nd gen) - $70 off
$249/$299 (cellular)
$179⚡This is now the lowest price we've ever seen the Apple Watch SE (2nd Gen) - a very solid deal, especially with the new WatchOS 10 features adding in offline topo mapping, power meter support, and plenty more.
Apple Watch Series 9 - $70 off
$399/$499 (cellular)
$329This is Apple's latest Apple Watch model, and did quite well in my review when it launched about two months ago. Especially notable is all the new sports/fitness features it got this year, such as cycling power meter/sensor support.
Apple Watch Ultra 2 - $70 off!$729This is really the first slate of sales we've seen on the Apple Watch Ultra 2, and the lowest price to date. Note: It'll show $739, and then to get the full extra $10 more off, you have to check that 'Apply Coupon' button under the price.
BOB Revolution Flex Running Stroller - 20% off$439There's just no competition in our minds on the best running stroller - it's what we used with all three of our kiddos for everyting from intervals to 20-mile long runs. In fact, we actually have two of them - one at home in Europe, and one with family in Canada that we picked up used. Go Bob Go!
CORE Body Temperature Sensor - 20% off$227Both myself and my wife used these this past summer and fall, in particular as she was training for Kona and preparing for the heat.
DJI Avata Bundle - $300 off!$899The DJI Avata is DJI's smaller form factor FPV drone, and one of my favorites to fly. I don't use it all the time, but more for very specific things requiring a bit more agility (whereas most of the times I'll use the DJI Mini 4 Pro, Air 3, or Mavic 3 Pro).
DJI Mini 2SE Drone - $40 off!
$499 ($549 combo)
$299There's definitely something cool about seeing a sub-$300 drone. And there's nothing wrong with this drone, it's very good. Just be careful though, because it's lack of 360* obstacle avoidance means it's pretty easy to get yourself in a pinch for a beginner drone.
DJI Mini 3 Fly More Combo with DJI RC - $100 off!$699
DJI Mini 3 Fly More Combo with DJI RC-N1 Bundle - $60 off$659
DJI Mini 3 Pro with DJI RC - $150 off!$767Up till the Mini 4 Pro came out, this was my go-to drone. It's what I shot almost all my drone footage from, and is great for both cycling and hiking (or trail running with a hydration pack to hold it), as it's super lightweight and includes everything you need.
DJI Mini 4 Pro Fly More Combo with DJI RC2 - $140 off!$959⚡ This is the first time we've seen the DJI Mini 4 Pro on sale, for a product DJI rarely discounts so soon after release. This is a great drone, and my go-to unit now for most trips.
FORM Swim Goggles (with heads-up display) - $70 off!$179This includes both the goggle, and a 1-year membership to their training/coaching platform.
Fenix 7 Pro Solar Series (7S/7/7X Pro) - $200 off!
$799+
$599⚡ This is the first time we've seen the new Fenix 7 Pro series on sale, and it's a nice strong sale. The smaller Fenix 7S Pro watch has become my wife's go-to watch since it came out, for all of her training and 24x7 usage.
Fitbit Charge 6 - 38% off!
$159
$99Given this is barely two months old, this is a pretty substantial deal - especially if you don't utilize the built-in GPS side of the device.
Fitbit Sense 2 - $50 off$249This isn't quite the biggest sale we've seen, so I'd expect it to go a bit lower over Black Friday.
Garmin Edge 1040 - $50 off$549This is a modest deal, but hey, a deal is a deal.
Garmin Edge 1040 Solar - $50 off$699This is a modest deal, but hey, a deal is a deal.
Garmin Epix (Gen 2) - $350 off!
$899/$999
From $449⚡⚡⚡ This is a crazy super strong deal, with Amazon having it as low as $449 (insane). Note that the Epix Gen 2 has continued to receive virtually all of the Epix Pro new features firmware updates. Also note: This deal is *STILL* available. Sometimes you'll have to click to show other retailers (on the right side), but it's still live.
Garmin Epix Pro Series (Sapphire Editions) - $200 off!$799⚡ This is the first time we've seen the new Epix Pro series on sale, and it's a nice strong sale. I'd say this is probably my go-to watch these days (middle-sized one), with the singular reason I tend to choose it over the Forerunner 965, being the built-in flashlight for night.
Garmin Epix Pro Series - $200 off!
$899/$999
$699⚡ This is the first time we've seen the new Epix Pro series on sale, and it's a nice strong sale. I'd say this is probably my go-to watch these days (middle-sized one), with the singular reason I tend to choose it over the Forerunner 965, being the built-in flashlight for night.
Garmin Epix Sapphire Titanium (Gen 2) - $400 off!$449⚡⚡⚡ This is a crazy super strong deal, with Amazon having it as low as $499 for Sapphire edition (insane). Note that the Epix Gen 2 has continued to receive virtually all of the Epix Pro new features firmware updates.
Garmin Fenix 6 Pro Series
$549-$1,149
$329[Note: This is a renewed unit] Obviously, the Fenix 6 isn't the latest anymore, but these are still very capable watches and frankly, at $329, there's absolutely nothing from any of their even brand-new competitor watches (COROS, Polar, Suunto, etc...) that can even remotely compete with the features here. Heck, not even Garmin's own pricing for their Fenix 7 Pro can compete with this. Fwiw, all Garmin renewed units go back to the same factory original units came from. Frankly, there's virtually no difference. If you're on a budget, this is where it's at.
Garmin Fenix 7 Pro Solar Sapphire Series (7S/7/7X Pro) - $200 off!
$799+
$699⚡ This is the first time we've seen the new Fenix 7 Pro series on sale, and it's a nice strong sale. The smaller Fenix 7S Pro watch has become my wife's go-to watch since it came out, for all of her training and 24x7 usage.
Garmin Fenix 7 Series (All Models/Styles) - $200 off!
$699+
$499⚡This is a strong deal if you don't care about the new optical heart rate sensor (including ECG) of the newer Fenix 7 Pro, especially given the Fenix 7 series has received virtually all of the Fenix 7 Pro's new software features, keeping them essentially identical.
Garmin Forerunner 255/255S - $100 off$249This is Garmin's mid-tier running watch, and is a very polished option with good multi-band GPS, and of course, a boatload of running metrics.
Garmin Forerunner 255/255S Music - $100 off!
$349/$399
$299This is Garmin's mid-tier running watch, and is a very polished option with good multi-band GPS, and of course, a boatload of running metrics. This model also includes offline music such as Spotify and Amazon Music.
Garmin Forerunner 265 Series - $50 off!
$449
$399
Garmin Forerunner 55 - $30 off
$199
$169This is a good little running watch, though, it also supports plenty of other sport types as well.
Garmin Forerunner 955 - $100 off!$399This is one of Garmin's most popular running watches, and this is now the lowest price we've ever seen on it. I often use this in my accuracy testing comparisons when validating other watches, due to it's very strong GPS performance. Note this is the base edition without solar.
Garmin Forerunner 955 Solar: $100 off!
$499/$599
$499This is one of Garmin's most popular running watches, and this is now the lowest price we've ever seen on it. I often use this in my accuracy testing comparisons when validating other watches, due to it's very strong GPS performance. This is the SOLAR edition.
Garmin Forerunner 965 - $50 off!$549This is the first time we've seen the Garmin FR965 on sale since launch. While it's not a huge sale, it's something!
Garmin HRM-PRO Plus - 25% off!
$129
$97This strap is one of the two straps I use constantly for other HR sensor accuracy comparisons (alongside Polar H10)
Garmin Instinct 2 Series - $50 Off$299This is a good deal, especially considering the Instinct 2 series got Training Readiness and a host of other new features over the course of just this year alone.
Garmin Instinct 2S Solar $100 off!$199This is a great deal at $199 for the smaller 2S units, especially considering the Instinct 2 series got Training Readiness and a host of other new features over the course of just this year alone. Plus of course all the existing triathlon/power meter/etc support it has built-in.
Garmin Instinct 2X - $100 off!$349This is the first time we've seen the Instinct 2X on sale, and since announcement it's received a huge slate of firmware updates and new features. It's best thought of as an Instinct 2.5, as it has almost enough features to really be more of an Instinct 3 (which doesn't exist at this point).
Garmin Tactix 7 Pro - $200 off!$1,099This is the first time we've seen the Tactix 7 Pro on sale. Note the other Tactix 7 Pro units/variants are also on sale for $200 off too!
Garmin Varia Radar (RTL515) - $50 off$149This is Garmin's standalone radar+taillight option, and $149 is pretty much the standard sale-price.
Garmin Venu 3 - $50 off!
$449
$399This is the first time we've seen this unit on sale since it launched a couple months ago, so this is a solid deal!
Garmin Venu SQ - 40% off
$199/$249 with Music
$149This is a so-so deal, previous 2021 and 2022 Black Friday's have put it all the way down to $119USD. So...I'd hold.
Garmin inReach 2 Mini Satellite Communicator (2-way) - $100 off$299⚡ This is my defacto satellite communicator when out of coverage area, and I've used it on a number of major treks over the past two years when well outside of cellular service, both in a 24x7 tracking mode for friends and family, but also there in case of emergency. Would strongly recommend for anyone doing anything in the wilderness.
Garmin inReach Messenger - $50 off$249
GoPro Hero 11 Black Mini - $100 off
$399
$249This is the lowest price we've seen on the GoPro Hero 11 Black Mini to date!
GoPro Hero 12 Black - $50 off!$349This is the first time we've seen a sale on the GoPro Hero 12 Black. It's not massive, but hey, it's a good start!
GoPro Hero 12 Black Bundle Combo Kit - $100 off!$349This is a solid little bundle, with the GoPro Hero 12, two Enduro batteries, a floating handle, a head-mount, and a carrying case.
Google Nest Cam Indoors - 30% off$69We have more Nest cam's than I can count. No really, we have half a dozen at the DCR Cave alone, plus more at home. We love them. Nest Cam's really only go on sale about 1-2x per year.
Google Nest Mesh WiFi Router - 55% off two-pack$119These are the WiFi mesh access points I use both at home and the DCR Cave. Love them - I don't need to dork with them, they just work. Sure, there are fancier 'Pro' versions now, but really, I just have zero issues.
Google Pixel Watch 1 - $100 off$250While the new Pixel Watch 2 just came out a month ago, the Pixel Watch 2 got almost all the software features two weeks ago via software update. The Pixel Watch 2 does have a slightly better optical HR sensor, and better battery life, but otherwise is relatively similiar.
Hammerhead Karoo 2 - $140 off!
$399
$259⚡The Karoo 2 is down to $299 ($100 off), but you can use DCR coupon code DCRAIN40 to get an additional $40 off, bringing it down to $259!!! A very solid deal given all the software updates it's received!
Hydrow Rowing Machine - $500 off$1,995This is one of the other more popular display-laden rowing machines. I haven't tried this, but my sports-tech reviewing buddy DesFit has (linked at side) and liked it.
Hyperice Normatec 3 Leg Recovery System - $100 off$699While this isn't something I've personally used, I know a ton of you do very much love it. Go forth!
Insta360 Go 3 - $20 off$379I actually quite like the Insat360 Go 3 and the combo of tiny form factor when you want it, and screen-box when you don't. I'm not sure $20 off is a sale worth jumping out of your seat for, but hey...a sale is a sale.
Jackery Portable Power Station - $85 off!$154This is something I use frequently when shooting out and about and I need to re-charge a crapton of drone batteries, action cameras, or just cameras and such. I also use it on trips to Eurobike and elsewhere to keep equipment charged. I've even bought a solar panel to hook up to it (surprisingly effective). Heck, I've even powered a KICKR trainer ride from it!
Lasko High Velocity Pro-Performance Fan (U15617) - 23% off$73This is one of the most popular indoor trainer fan companies out there, which rivals the Wahoo Headwind fan but cost a fraction of the price. Of course, it lacks ANT+/Bluetooth integration, but realistically if you really want that you can add a smart outlet for $10 to toggle it on/off from your phone if need be. I've actually got this fan in the DCR Cave recently on advice of many people.
Nespresso Vertuo Next Coffee & Espresso Kit - 30% off$118⚡ Let's be honest: This place runs on Nespresso (or, well, the knock-off pods we buy). But, the machine is Nespresso. Without it, reviews most definitely would not get done (and certainly not on time). This is a pretty sweet deal if you ask me!
Nest Cam Outdoors - $60 off$119We use one of these and so far after just about five years, it's working great for us. Love it, and works better than trying to stick a regular Nest Cam out the window (since it'll reflect both during daytime and at night with the IR sensor).
Ooni Fyra 12 Wood Fired Outdoor Portable Pizza Oven - $105 off!$244⚡ I know, I know, I still owe everyone a review. Nonetheless, 2+ years later, I love this thing. We use it for more than pizza too, notably steaks (to get a really crispy sear). But a lot of pizza. It's completely portable, even easily fitting on our cargo bike. Note that I went with this model, the cheapest one they make, as I realized that buying the higher-end models that that support gas didn't make much sense for me. I have a gas grill already (and could easily just put a stone on it). Similarly, while a large 16" is appealing, realistically I've found this 12" more than enough for pretty substantial personal pizzas (and it makes it easier to handle). Full in-depth review pretty soon...probably. Also, $244 appears to be the lowest price ever.
Oura Ring Products - Up to $100 off$269Oura has various products on sale, at various discounts, starting from $269, and up to $100 off depending on the model.
Peloton Bike - $350 off$1,095I believe this is the lowest price we've ever seen on the original/base Peloton Bike model (without a bundle required). This is still a solid bike, and actually one that I use at home (I have the newer Peloton Bike+ at the office). Both my wife and I use these bikes interchangeably, and while the Bike+ has a bigger screen and better accuracy, there's very little difference in the core Peloton experience. I'd still recommend this model to most people. Note Peloton has stated/confirmed there will be no 'bigger discounts' on products during this holiday period.
Peloton Bike+ is $400 off$1,995This is a solid deal for the Bike+. Both my wife and I use both the Peloton Bike+ and the regular Bike (one at home, one at office) on a weekly basis. We like both. The Bike+ is more accurate than the regular bike, and also has a bigger screen and automatic resistance control. That said, the core Peloton experience isn't any different between the two - it's the same platform there. Note Peloton has stated/confirmed there will be no 'bigger discounts' on products during this holiday period.
Peloton Row - $250+ off$2,745Peloton has the Peloton Row on sale, both this base unit here, but also various bundled units as well. This is the first times we've seen the base unit (non-bundled) on sale.
Polar Grit X Pro - $70 off
$499/$599
$449This isn't realy the best deal we've seen for this watch, as it was down to $338 last year for Black Friday. Maybe we'll see it go lower this year.
Polar H10 Chest Strap (Dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart) - 24% off
$89
$67This is a great dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart (with two Bluetooth Smart connections) chest strap that you'll often find me using as a reference strap in heart rate sensor testing. We only tend to see deals on it around Black Friday, always topping out around 20%. Note, the medium- size is the one on sale.
Polar Ignite 3 - $75 off!
$329
$256
Polar Pacer - $70 off!$169This is about as low as it gets price-wise for the Polar Pacer (base unit).
Polar Pacer Pro - $70 off!
$329
$259
Polar Vantage M2 - $100
$299
$197This appears to be the lowest price I have on record for the Poalr Vantage M2, which makes it pretty compelling as a starter triathlon watch!
SONOS Roam - 25% off$134We have a few SONOS speakers around the house and DCR Cave (the Ikea variants at DCR Cave), but by far our favorite is the Roam, which we take outdoors into the garden during the summer, beach vacations, AirBNB's, etc... It has a battery in it, and also connects to both WiFi and Bluetooth. Love, love, love
Samsung Galaxy Watch6 - $20 off$279
Samsung Galaxy Watch6 Classic - $70 off$330This is a reasoanbly solid deal for this watch, which came out this past summer.
Samsung T9 SSD (1-4TB) - up to 43% off$109I use a literal flotilla of these small SSD's for all my photo/video projects until they get moved off to the NAS system (Synology) for longer term storage. I have T5/T7 units, and are picking up a few of the larger T9 ones given the sale prices. Love them, incredibly fast and reliable.
SanDisk 256GB Extreme PRO SD Cards - 52% off$29⚡I use the SanDisk Extreme Pro SD Cards exclusively for all my video/photo shooting on my Panasonic GH5 and Nikon cameras (video and stills), including up to 6K recording with the GH5. I've mostly used 128's, but more and more lately I'm filling up cards faster with higher bitrates, so this sale is gonna have me pickup a bunch of the 256GB ones instead. The 128GB/ 512GB/1TB ones are also on sale too viathe same link. Note that usually I wait till these are about $40-45, so this is a fantastic deal and I'll be filling up.
Stages Bike SB20 - $500 off!
$2899
$1,999⚡ A very solid deal, making it the least expensive smart bike out there. Note that while the deal is marketed as being 37% off, most of the time the bike floats between $2,500 and $2,800. Still - $1,999 is very solid.
Stages Power Meters - Most 20% off units$267Stages is offering 20% off most of their non-drive-side power meters.
Suunto Vertical - $100 off!$529This is the first time we've seen the new Suunto Vertical on sale, and especially notable given the huge firmware update it got this past week with tons of new features from the also-new Suunto Race watch.
Tacx Flux 2 Smart Trainer - $300 off
$899
$599
Tacx NEO 2T Smart Trainer - $500 off!
$1,399
$899⚡⚡ Holy crap, this is an incredible deal. Get this while it's hot and lasts. Note that you can also pair this with the NEO Motion Plates, which would give you a slight bit of forward/back rolling motion.
Therabody Theragun Elite - $30 off$289This is arguably my wife's favorite sports tech gadget. She uses it pretty much daily. Thus, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention this deal. Also, please don't tell her, she might just buy another one...
Therabody Theragun Prime - $110 off!$189My wife uses the Theragun Elite, which is just slightly more expensive than this model at $299 on sale right now. But hey, I hear good things about all of these.
Wahoo BOLT V2 - $50 off
$279
$229This is a good little deal on the Wahoo BOLT V2.
Wahoo ELEMNT ROAM V2 - $80 off
$399
$329
Wahoo KICKR Core Smart Trainer - $120 off!
$899
$479⚡⚡ This deal is back, and it's a pretty incredible deal. It's the Wahoo KICKR CORE down to $499, which REI briefly did this past June. Nobody else seems to be offering this deal, and even though the KICKR CORE got the price reduced to $599 recently, it's virtually unheard of to see these trainers below the $500 marker.
Wahoo POWRLINK ZERO (Dual-sided) - $200 off!
$649/$999
$799⚡ This is a very solid deal that happens twice a year, if you were looking at the Wahoo power meter pedals, grab these before this disappears (and it usually disappears). As with the Garmin Rally pedals, I continue to use Wahoo power meter pedals for accuracy testing of other brands/units.
Wahoo POWRLINK ZERO (Single-sided) - $130 off!$520⚡ This is a very solid deal that happens twice a year, if you were looking at the Wahoo power meter pedals, grab these before this disappears (and it usually disappears). As with the Garmin Rally pedals, I continue to use Wahoo power meter pedals for accuracy testing of other brands/units.
Wahoo RIVAL GPS Watch - 50% off
$199
$99⚡ At some point, everything becomes a steal. While the Wahoo RIVAL struggles to be comepetitive with higher-end watches, at $99, it's a pretty crazy deal - especially for triathletes where Wahoo does some cool stuff around automatic transitions.
Whoop 4.0 with 1-year subscription - 17% off$199This brings down the 1-year price to $17/month, which is the lowest it's been (only way to get that is normally a 24-month membership).
Withings Body+ WiFi Scale - 30% off$69I've long been a fan of the Withings WiFi scales, especially since they can connect/push data to so many platforms, including Zwift! Note that the Body+ simply includes more data.

I’d keep checking back on the above table, especially over the next week or so.  As most of the times manufacturers have lit up deals by mid-May.  The table automatically updates as soon as a new deal shows up.

REI 20% off Sale:

[Update! Just added this section in!]

If you missed the much larger Clever Training 20% VIP sale, fear not – you’ve got two days to make it up. From now till May 28th you can still take advantage of the REI 20% off sale, which has a handful of sports tech items that are of interest here (plus of course all sorts of the usual REI stuff like tents and backpacks). All of these links help support the site.

CycleOps Hammer (REI Link: $959 from $1,200)
CycleOps Magnus (REI Link: $479 from $600)
Tacx Flux Smart (REI Link: $720 from $900)
Tacx Neo Smart (REI Link: $1,280 from $1,600)
Wahoo KICKR 2017 (REI Link: $960 from $1,200)
Wahoo KICKR SNAP (REI Link: $479 from $600)

Technically it’s a members-only sale, but it only takes a second to sign-up and then use coupon code ANNIV18 for REI.

For those curious, the Tacx Neo is my go-to trainer that I use when I’m not testing something else.  But if you’re looking for the best bang for the buck from the available trainers in this sale, it’s the Tacx Flux. Sale ends 11:59PM Pacific Time May 28th. Oh, you can get free shipping to your local REI store. Woot!

Clever Training 20% VIP SALE:

[This sale has now ended]

In this sale, each Clever Training (CT) VIP member is given a coupon code (SPRINGVIP) that’s good for 20% off a single non-sale item including all trainers and most power meters.  It doesn’t matter if that item is the Tacx Neo trainer, Wahoo KICKR 3 (2017) trainer, a WatTeam power meter, or Oakley aero helmets.  Your choice, but it’s only available to CT VIP members.

There are a handful of limitations, most notably that it’s not valid on Garmin, GoPro, Fitbit, Quarq, Favero, and a few others I list down below in the restrictions. Those are all manufacturer driven restrictions. Note: The Favero Assioma pedals are still valid with the usual 10% off DCR Coupon Code (DCR10BTF).

With that in mind, there are some incredible deals to be had for trainers and power meters here – or other high-value items.  Especially new trainers and newly released power meters.  Here’s some quick guidance on both categories:

Power Meters: As I said earlier this year, I do not expect 2018 to be rich in new power meters, or significant price shifts.  You’ve got the new SRM pedal-based power meter coming in a few weeks (they recently said to stay tuned for June 1st), but we don’t know a lot of details on that at this point (be it accuracy, pods or no pods, or price-point).  Beyond that, virtually every major player in the market has released or started shipping a new power meter in the last 12-16 months. And there’s of course been a handful of Kickstarter and startup projects too recently. Certainly, it’s likely someone unknown might come out of the woodwork this summer at Eurobike or Interbike, but I wouldn’t expect any summer 2018 announcements to result in new summer 2018 shipments (since it never historically has worked that way). So basically – if you want a power meter for this year and want to save 20%, it won’t get better than this.  Here’s my power meter buyers guide a well.

Trainers: Trainers are trickier of course, especially with Eurobike now shifted to July. We typically see new trainers announced at Eurobike/Interbike, though the last few years we saw them as early as June. I think we’ll be back to Eurobike though again for anything meaningful.  And remember, none were available earlier than Eurobike (only the new Wahoo KICKR3 and new Elite trainers managed to be available then), while virtually everyone else was delayed into late fall and beyond. Despite these companies’ best intentions to be shipping in August/September, it didn’t often happen.  I do expect 2018 to be a reasonably solid year for indoor cycling gear, but not necessarily massive changes in new models of trainers. I think you’re mostly going to see companies shift towards the Wahoo/Apple model of minor tweaks this year to a given product and stamping it with a new version number.

Meaning, if you see an option on the market you like today – go for it.  If however you want the latest and greatest next fall and don’t mind waiting until fall for availability…then hold your cards.  Here’s my Winter 2017-2018 trainer recommendations post, which still holds true today.

The sale is members only, but it’s simple to get started. If you’re already a member, just skip step #2.

  1. Pick out the item you want to buy and add to cart (see below list as a starting point)
  2. Add the Clever Training VIP membership to your cart
  3. Add VIP members-only coupon code (SPRINGVIP) upon checkout to save 20%.
  4. Enjoy gadget!

There are too many deals to list, because obviously that’d be tens of thousands of items that Clever Training carries, even running shoes and other sports gear.  But you can find all power meters Clever Training carries here on their power meter landing page.

CT_VIPLogo_Rainmaker_AllLogosNew

And all trainers Clever Training lists are carried here on the trainer landing page (it’s basically everyone).

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I’m going to call out the most notable sports-tech ones in the table below:

DCR Best Tech Deals - Spring 2018

ItemYear Announced Regular Price Review/Related Post
4iiii Power Meters2015-2017$399 DCR Post Here
AeroPod Aero SensorSpring 2018$499 DCR Post Here
Cycliq Fly12 CE Front Bike Light/CameraFall 2017$279 DCR Post Here
Cycliq Fly6 CE Back Bike Light/CameraFall 2017$179 DCR Post Here
Coros Linx Smart Helmet (what I use)Late 2016$199 DCR Post Here
Elite Drivo Trainer Late 2016$1,299 DCR Post Here
Elite Direto TrainerSummer 2017$899 DCR Post Here
Elite RampaLate 2016$649 DCR Post Here
CycleOps HammerLate 2016$1,199 DCR Post Here
CycleOps MagnusLate 2016$599 DCR Post Here
Lezyne Super GPS Bike ComputerMid-2016$149 DCR Post Here
NPE Cable ANT+ to Bluetooth Smart ConverterSpring 2017$59 DCR Post Here
Pioneer Power Meters2015-2017$499 DCR Post Here
Polar M460 GPS Bike ComputerApril 2017$329 DCR Post Here
Polar OH-1 Optical SensorFall 2017$79 DCR Post Here
Polar M600 GPS Android Wear WatchLate 2016$329 DCR Post Here
PowerTap P1 Power Meter Pedals2015$799 DCR Post Here
STAC Zero Trainer (with power)2017$479 DCR Post Here
Quadlock Bike MountsFrom Fall 2017from $29 DCR Post Here
RunScribe PlusFall 2017$249 DCR Post Here
Scosche Rhythm 24Winter 2018$99 DCR Post Here
Shimano Dura-Ace FC-R9100-P Power MeterFall 2017$1,549 DCR Post Here
Suunto Sparies Series (Ultra/Sport/Wrist HR)2016-2017$329 DCR Post Here
Suunto Spartan Trainer Wrist HR2017$277 DCR Post Here
Stages Power Meters2015-2017From $529 DCR Post Here
Stages LR Dual Power MetersLate 2017From $999 DCR Post Here
Stages Dash Bike GPS2017$299 DCR Post Here
Tacx Flux SmartLate 2017$899 DCR Post Here
Tacx NEO Smart 2017 EditionLate 2016$1,599 DCR Post Here
Tacx Bushido Smart2014$799 DCR Post Here
Velocomp PowerPod Dual ANT+/BLEFall 2017$299-$325 DCR Post Here
Wahoo KICKR Trainer 2017 (most recent)Fall 2017$1,199 DCR Post Here
Wahoo KICKR SNAP Trainer 2017 (most recent)Summer 2017$599 DCR Post Here
Wahoo TICKR-FITJanuary 20198$79 DCR Post Here
WatTeam PowerBeat Gen2 DualFall 2017$399 DCR Post Here

Then there’s a pile of non-sports tech products that last year a bunch of you bought, or talked about. Or that you probably didn’t even know would be included in a sale like this but it’s worthwhile noting.  I figured I’d dig into the analytics from last time and see what oddities you bought that I didn’t mention as well. I suppose if some of you bought these, there might be something that others will appreciate as well

All Oakley Sunglasses
Oakley Cycling Helmets – $180-$250 normally
Redshift Sports Cycling Components
Topeak Bike Travel Cases – $799 normally
Yeti Coolers/Cups (apparently y’all liked this stuff last time, I’ve never touched one)

So you’re probably wondering about that VIP requirement?  That’s basically akin to what REI does with their twice-yearly members-only sale.  Except in this case, the Clever Training VIP membership only costs $4.99.  And the proceeds of that go to ‘Girls On The Run’, a running focused charity.  So it’s basically a win-win.  You get a massive savings, and an awesome charity gets supported.

And of course, your gadgetry purchase helps support the site here (as all Clever Training purchases do).

Here’s what I expect to be a few frequently asked questions:

How many items can I get a discount for?

One item. Just one, and only one.

Is this per household?

No, it’s one item per member.  Thus, if you have multiple unique VIP members in a household, then you can have multiple people.  You can sign-up to be a Clever Training VIP member here.  I explain more of the details here.

Which brands doesn’t it work on?

At this time, it’s not valid on Garmin, GoPro, Quarq, Favero, and Fitbit.  Also, the Wahoo ELEMNT/ELEMNT BOLT and Wahoo Desk are excluded.

In the cart it says it doesn’t work?

Validate that you only have one item in the cart, and that it’s not one of the above listed items.

Do I get VIP points on top of this?

No, since it’s a large sale item. No double-dipping here.

Are there some fancy details I can read somewhere?

Yes, right here (middle of page, some text).

When does this end?

May 23rd, 2018 at 11:59PM US Eastern Time.

What happens when it ends?

It’s over. End of the road.  Time to eat Ben and Jerry’s Ice Cream.

Is shipping free?

Yes, US shipping is free as long as your order is over $49.  For items that can be shipped internationally, it’s $29 flat rate.  Generally speaking, trainers can’t be shipped internationally.

What about Clever Training Europe?

Unfortunately, this sale is CT US focused.  However, you are welcome to ship any items that they can overseas, which is the $29 flat rate noted in the previous question item.  You will have to do customs on your own, but if you live overseas as I do you’re familiar with that game. And you’d be able to do the math on whether it makes sense given any fees you might face.  In most cases it probably will still save you money, especially for more expensive items.

As for the ‘why’ of not having this deal in CT Europe, it’s somewhat simple: There’s already an always-on 10% off coupon deal there.  Obviously that’s different than 20% off, but that gets into some of the differences between the US having ‘MAP’ (Minimum Advertised Price) policies, whereas the rest of the world (including Europe) sees that as illegal.  I explain a bit more in detail back this past fall.

To be super clear – it’s definitely something that Clever Training Europe would love to do, but it simply has to be viable from a business standpoint too.

Is this the end of the FAQ section?

Yes…you made it!

Phew – there ya have it! Go forth and enjoy.  And feel free to drop any questions you have down below on recommendations, etc… I’d be happy to try and help ya out.  Thanks for the support!

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  1. I wish that there was a clear winner in the power meter category. Each placement has so many different caveats and price points. 20% is a pretty great deal, and Clever Training is a fantastic shop.

    • Indeed, I think we’ll eventually get to the point whereby one of two things will happen:

      A) Power meters become dial-tone within cranksets: My guess is this is at least 3-6 years away from high end cranksets (i.e. Dura-Ace), and 5-8 years away for cheaper (Ultegra and eventually 105).

      B) Pedal based power meters will likely be where most efforts end up. Right now there are of course pedal type limitations, but that’s eventually going to go away and it’ll be harder and harder to have reasons not to get a pedal based power meter, especially as prices continue to drop.

      On the bright side – more choice means lower prices. Power meter pricing has dropped like a rock in recent years, and as we see new players (even ones that fail), that drives others to produce better products and lower cost products.

    • You’re absolutely right. I’m looking at the Vector 3s as my power meter, but the price point is just a bit high. I appreciate all the reviews you are doing on the various products in this area as it’s helpful to get something that works for each rider.

    • Eli

      If power meters come with the cranks and not as a large markup then it would seem like all non crank makers will fail in the long term. Pedals would also be a long term failure if you’re just going to attach them to cranks that can already measure power.

    • Yup, totally agree (very long term).

      Of course, that assumes other tech doesn’t come along which becomes cheaper or easier to integrate elsewhere that does it more accurately.

  2. Stuart

    The image for the power meters (as distinct from the text-based link) links to an image on the media.dcrainmaker.com website. I’m guessing that that wasn’t what was intended.

    Also: no Quarq and no Garmin? Vector 3, I can understand, considering that it’s still relatively new and companies are struggling to keep it in stock, but even the older Vectors? Ouch. Guess I’ll be heading over to a UK-based mob I know that will sell me the Quarq SRAM Red DZero for a shade under $AU1k, then. (Under $US750… I’d love to support the site, but when the price difference is that great…)

    • Thanks for the catch on the image, updated link – appreciate it!

      For Quarq, yeah, it’s ultimately a manuf choice. Older Vectors actually probably would be allowed to be honest, since I don’t believe they’re under MAP. I can double-check. Though honestly I’d have a hard time recommending Vector 2 at $800 over PowerTap P1 (which are dual ANT+/BLE) at the same $800. Especially since Vector 2 still require pods.

    • Stuart

      Oh, there’s no way I’d buy Vector 1 or 2 now, not unless they were at a steep discount to the price for a new set of Vector 3 or similar pedals. Just the way it was worded implied that no Garmin product would fall under the discount code, which surprised me (especially for the older products).

      Is there any likelihood of the situation on the Quarq changing, or is it pretty much set in stone? (Read: I’m happy to delay the purchase to help support the site, if it’s likely to change, but if it’s fixed, then so be it.)

      Oh – and there’s the same issue for the very first image in the body, the one with the Wahoo, Tacx, etc. (Sorry, only just noticed it.)

    • Ahh, yeah, I think technically it works on non-MAP products (which are all older things), but I didn’t try and figure out what those are. I’ll have them circle back with confirmation one way or the other on it, and if there are some older things that it’s valid on, I’ll create a list.

      I don’t think we’ll see Quarq change their position on this one. Obviously they could, and obviously it’d help them sell units, but it sounds like they’re sticking with that position.

      No worries on the first image, it was just meant to be a pretty header pic – but I agree, logical to direct that to somewhere. Thanks!

  3. Eli

    Pioneer power meters have a free head unit offer to go with them. link to pioneerelectronics.com

  4. Ryan

    Ouch. Put off my Assioma purchase for two months only to find they are excluded.

    • Yeah, it was an unexpected last minute change last week. 🙁 Sad Panda too.

    • Ryan

      I pulled the trigger anyway with the basic 10%, but the two month delay was the most disappointing. However, I spent hours researching and reading, so I really appreciated your review. It was a deciding factor.

    • Jason

      I pulled the trigger myself on the Assioma’s last week, got impatient waiting for a sale. When I saw the email this morning I was annoyed… until I saw that Favero was excluded so I guess my impatience worked in my favor for once.

  5. Nighthawk700

    Does the sale work for pre-orders, e.g. the Scosche Rhythm 24? I was hoping your review would come out before or during the sale, but it sounds like things are being kicked down the road a little. Any new thoughts that weren’t covered in your Hands On? And just for a sanity check, the sale won’t work on even non GPS Garmin items? (such as the RD Pod)

    Thanks

    • Yup, works for pre-order items that are listed. The Rhythm 24 is listed and totally one you can do. Whereas Wahoo has made the KICKR CLIMB available for purchase/order yet, so that one doesn’t work.

      Nothing major of concern that I’ve seen with the final Scosche 24 unit that I have. I haven’t pulled in the files from the last 3-4 days yet into the DCR Analyzer to really dig into every second, but while out for workouts, things seem in-line.

  6. Adam

    Considering that the Powertap pedals ARE on sale and Favero is not, does it make sense to go with P1s rather than Assiomas? Or are the rave reviews/rechargeability/lower stack height on the Assiomas worth an extra $80?

  7. John

    I had my credit card ready to go bought the VIP package last night, but could not get it to work on Assioma’s. Really disappointed. Power pedals was a luxury for me. Now I am considering waiting or just not doing it. That last minute decision did not make me happy! Grrr!

  8. John

    Ok I stayed until midnight, bought the VIP, and then it did not work. Found out hey were excluded. I am a bit irritated at Favero/Clever Training. I know probably not justified, but I have not had my coffee yet.

    I have waited for a month to buy the pedals. They were not excluded in the past. They still seem the best option for my Campy equipped, bike, but it is just not a fun purchase any more!

    Oh yeah and it is raining! Great Monday!

    • Sorry John. Indeed, I suspect it may be lack of coffee driven. I tried to be super clear on the above (and them on CT’s terms too) that the Favero units weren’t included per manufacturer direction this time around.

      Still, I have no doubt that CT would happily refund you last night’s purchase. 🙂 Unfortunately, they can’t do anything about the rain.

    • John

      You were very clear as always. I went to Clever Training last night and saw the VIP discount and started before your article

      If I remember correctly the VIP membership goes to charity so I will not Pursue a refund.

      I have had coffee now I am no longer irritated. It also stopped raining so life is good ?. That being said I usually choose to spend my money elsewhere when a company ruins my fun. Was this a Farvero or Clever training decision?

    • No worries!

      No, it wasn’t a Clever Training decision.

    • John

      Ok, I will take Clever Training off of the “naughty” list.

      I have a Pinarello with Campy parts, so putting Italian pedals just seemed right. Alas, Favero is on the “naughty” list.

      I wish there were more viable/affordable options for power for Campy. I probably just should have my wheel rebuilt with a power tap hub.

    • Hi John,

      We are very surprised to read these comments.
      We don’t know where this misunderstanding originated from but we will contact the reseller for clarification.

      We have never agreed to be part of a “VIP discount” of any kind.
      We prefer to focus our advertising on very hard factual product features and the quality of our service.

      Have a good day,

      Andrea | Favero Electronics

  9. Anirudh

    Love reading your reviews

    However, 2 things:

    – Scosche Rhythm 24 is written as “announced in Winter 2018”.
    – Garmin Vivoactive 3 Black/Gunmetal is $279, not $249

    • Thanks!

      – The Scosche 24 is actually announced Winter 2018, as it was announced in January 2018 at CES
      – Vivoactive 3: I’m not sure I follow – the base Vivoactive 3 is $20 off, making it $249. The Gunmetal is the more fancy variant, which costs a bit more.

      Cheers.

  10. Daniel M

    Hi Ray,

    Based on your experience, which one would be a better deal for a first PM?
    – Powertap C1 for 350 USD
    – 4iiii Precision for 400 USD

    I know that the 4iiii is left-only, that is his major downside. The C1 would be a bit cheaper (even with selling my 6800 crankset and buying a used 105 5700 crankset on ebay). On the other hand, the C1 adds about 200 gramms to the bike and I also read a couple of other reviews which were complaining about the front shifting with the FSA rings.

    Do you have an idea which one is more reliable? I have read your C1 and 4iiii reviews and every single comment below those reviews, in both cases I have read good and bad alike. I am a hobby rider so I am not sure that I should pay much attention to the whole left-only argument…

    Which one would YOU get?

    Thanks a lot in advance!

    Best,
    Daniel

    • I’d go C1, purely because it’s total power versus left-only.

      In the case of support/etc, I think in general you’ll see better support/responsiveness out of PowerTap lately than 4iiii.

    • Daniel M

      Thanks Ray. I guess you didn’t notice any degradation with the front shifting after installing the C1, right? Same effortless shifting as before?

      Btw, the previous was my first comment here 🙂 You are doing an awesome job, thank you for all your hard work you put into your reviews.

    • I didn’t have any issues at all there, no problems shifting. As one who rides wonky cranksets in my bikes that don’t match all the time, perhaps I get used to the oddities. But I think it honestly just comes down to fine tuning shifting anytime you swap cranksets.

      Thanks!

    • Ryan

      The C1 is really only available via PowerTap’s website, correct? Unfortunate because it’d be almost a no-brainer for me with a CT discount.

    • Daniel M

      Yes, officially only via the PT website, although I think you can still find it here or there.
      For example:
      link to performancebike.com

      The normal price for the C1 was around 5-6-700 USD, so even with 20% off from the old price, that would be a worse deal than buying it from the PT website.

      350 USD is a very good price for it, I think.

    • David Rosenthal

      Do not buy the c1 I repeat do not buy the C1 I went through 7 of them in 2 years all with water leakage in the battery compartment there is clearly a design and manufacturing issues being that the same thing persisted through 24 months of usage before I finally sold off the last warranty replacement on ebay. Also it only worked with a few of my frames and most of the cranks that fit it are outdated or heavy.

  11. Oskar

    Fly6 CE this morning. $138 after 20% and $5 credit. Been waiting for this.

    Next on the list (perhaps my wife joins up next week too), Stages XT crank.

  12. Steve E.

    Have you seen REI’s sale catalog (May 18 – 28)? It says the Fenix 5’s are $100 off. I think the date goes through 6/16 too, which makes me think that’s manufacturer driven.

    I don’t have it handy to post a pic of it though.

    • Nice, that sounds about right. If I can find a copy of the flyer, I’ll include it up above!

    • Found it! Indeed, Fenix 5 a flat $100 off, and also one of the older Garmin inReach models at $75 off. I’ll re-sort the chunks above a bit later to reflect those sales. Dates as you noted.

      Since those are standard Garmin sales, you’ll see them at any Garmin retailer.

    • Anthony

      Would we expect this sale to happen on Garmin’s website as well?

    • In theory.

      It’s live now on Amazon and Clever Training.

      I’ve added all the new sales into the upper section of the post:

      • $100 off all Fenix 5s – 5/18-6/16
      • $50 off Edge 25 units (base and bundle) – 5/18-5/28
      • 20% off on Saris and Cycleops – 5/18-5/30
      • $50 off Edge 520 5/18-5/28

      Enjoy!

  13. Jetfire

    Thanks for all you do. I started biking this year and already picked up a helmet and (today) the Stages LR power meter with the discount.

  14. chris

    I’ve been hoping we would see a power2max “summer” sale some time soon. But the US website hasn’t been updated in ages (it actually still lists last years summer sale) and the new mountain bike power meters haven’t even made it onto the US site. I only learned they had been available when I accidentally wondered onto the euro site a few weeks back.

  15. Patrick R

    > No, you’re not going to see 20% off on Vector this month
    > At this time, it’s not valid on Garmin (except Vector)

    I’m confused – what do you mean by “except Vector”?

  16. Rolf

    Hm I got excited to buy the Stages LR Ultegra power meter for a good price until I calculated the taxes and duties I would have to pay when shipping to Germany. So basically I can also buy it directly here 😛 (too bad though cause 20% is a pretty nice offer)

  17. Anthony W

    Coming from a Forerunner 235 I’m trying to figure out what which will ‘feel’ the most similar out of the Forerunner 935, 645 music, or Fenix 5. I’m worried some about the weight of the Fenix 5 but the 645 music does seem to be smaller on the display side. Any tips on making this choice?

    • I think if you look at the Fenix 5S, you’d find the weight/size in the same ballpark. The poles of the watch are a bit wider on the Fenix 5 series than the Forerunner though.

    • Eli

      Why even consider the Fenix 5? The 935 is basically a plastic version that has all the same functionality why spend more for something heavier?

      Now 935 vs 645? That’s harder

    • John

      I never do this, but I am mad at Favero for changing their exclusion policy for their pedals.

      I know I am overreacting for $70, but after waiting for this deal for a month this ruined my buying experience. Therefore, I am not going to buy from Favero even though they are the best solution!

      Sometimes I think companies do things because they know they can. Well I do not have to buy from them!

      Thank you Clever Training for the great sale. Ray as usual you are the best!

      Lastly, I am sorry about the negativity, but this just rubbed me the wrong way.

    • Stuart

      Why consider the Fenix 5? Style. The Fenix series is designed to be more of a stylish fashion accessory, rather than the utilitarian design of the 935.

      For some people, that’s important. It isn’t for me (which is why I have the 935; I’m more interested in the function than the form), but your tastes and mine are not everybody’s.

    • Dan

      Eye of the beholder. I think the 935 looks far better than the bulky, ugly Fenix watches.

    • Stuart

      As do I, Dan, although obviously some would disagree with that opinion. The 5S is decent in its styling and size (it’s the only one of the Fenix series I’d consider wearing on my wrist; the others are far too big), but has the issue of a shorter battery life – on par with the 735XT.

      Choice is a wonderful thing, is it not? It’s almost as if everybody is free to choose whichever watch suits their needs, tastes, and desires… 😉

  18. Rob

    I also noticed that if you purchase any Pioneer Dual Leg Power Meter or Dual Power Meter Kit from Biketiresdirect.com you will get to receive a free Pioneer SGX-CA500 Cycle Computer

  19. Paul

    Should I get the Wahoo KICKR now or wait to see what new trainers come out?

    • It’s always the usual question this time of year.

      My response is obviously hindered by NDA’s. But, my guidance tends to be the same each year:

      If you want a trainer that you can use before ~September/October, get what’s available now. Whereas, if you plan to ride outside between now and then, then consider waiting to see if something better comes along. Generally speaking most trainers announced at Eurobike/Interbike start to ship by September, with most of the time companies sorting things out by October. There are still numerous examples where by either delays or backorders, a given unit won’t ship to you until Nov/Dec, even January or February sometimes.

  20. Dan

    Phew, that’s a lot to read to discover it’s not Garmin, and not Europe.

  21. Roady

    Ray, correction – The rear FLY camera is the FLY6, not the FLY12 Rear (as listed) 🙂

  22. Bill

    I tried with the Kickr and got the following message

    “Coupon ‘SPRINGVIP’ was not applied due to more than 1 item being in cart or the added item is ineligible for this promotion.”

  23. jay

    torn between the stages l/r and the pioneer dual crankset options.

    any recommendations? things i’ve considered:
    – stages has dropout issues
    — was released this year so newest gen
    – pioneer looks to be updated with the ultegra r8000, but can’t find the release date.
    — is this a newer model?

    i’ve already preordered the 520+ so don’t think the free pioneer unit would really make a difference.

  24. Luke

    Ray,
    I’m in the market for a new bike computer, and I’m struggling between the Edge 130, 520, and 520 plus.
    Basic thoughts here, would love your (and everything else’s) input:

    520: $199 is a great price.
    130: Same price as the 520, a bit smaller (probably doesn’t matter to me), seems like a newer version of the 520 and won’t fall out of Garmin favor as quickly but might also not get some of the big updated 2-3 years down the road.
    520 plus: Basically the “new” 520, but with the sale is $80 more than the 520/130. Will be the unit that get updates down the road, but frankly not sure who much I’ll need those updates. The routing / yelp is the biggest driver here for me, don’t think I’ll get a bluetooth only sensor any time in the future.

    Thanks in advance, happy Memorial day (or, as I suspect they call it in Holland, “Monday”)

  25. David Manley

    Appears that clevertraining still hate me. Not entirely sure why but they keep “riskifying” my orders.

    Maybe it’s as simple as not liking my email address or maybe my cologne.