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FIT File: The End of MIP Displays? Garmin Forerunner 165 and New Cycling Power Meters

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In this episode, we talk about the new Garmin Forerunner 165 and if this is the end of MIP displays, new power meters from 4iiii and Favero, Garmin's software security updates, and of course, plenty of fun tangents along the way. … 17:16 Crank or Pedal Power Meter?

Garmin Edge 800 adds NP/IF/TSS, left/right power, tons more data fields

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In line with the power meter improvements they’ve added support for ANT+ left/right power meters, which will ultimately include the Garmin Vector pedal based power meter, the Brim Brothers Zone cleat based power meter, and the O-Synce pedal based power meter. … Here you can see the totals from my trainer workout, first up – on the device: Then on Training Peaks: (For those power geeks amongst us, you’ll notice my TSS/IF was fairly high – this was merely because I realized afterwards that my FTP on the Edge 800 was set at 200w, versus reality at closer to 300w.

Analysis and Discussion with Garmin and MetriGear about new Vector Power Meter

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(Left, Clark Foy – MetriGear, Right – Jake Jacobson, Garmin) Oh, and if you aren’t familiar with power meters, I recommend you start here with this post. … On one hand – everyone is optimistic that this will only further to expand interest in power meters, which even for companies selling ‘gold standard’ systems like SRM – means that more interest will also be driven their direction.

Brim Brothers announces Zone power meter production, my first ride impressions

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On the flip side, there are no restrictions on crank types or the like, as some power meters have today. … The installation and calibration was done by myself for Zone, and the subsequent ride was on my bike with other power meters that I own.

My analysis of the 2014 Kona bike count power meter numbers

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Starting in 2009, they added power meters to the Kona bike count list. … Whereas more of a weekend warrior road bike rider might not spend the same proportion of income in the sport, and thus is far more likely to buy cheaper power meters (ala Stages).

1st Hands-On Ride with Brim Brothers Zone Cleat Based Power Meter

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This is notably different than the newer 2012 power meters that transmit calculated left/right power, such as the newer SRAM Quarq Cinqo’s and the post-September 2012 Power2Max units. … As Barry Redmond (one of the Brim Brother founders) noted to me tonight – “If it was perfect, we’d be selling it today.” Which is a fitting and appropriate comment for not only the Zone power meter, but many other promised power meters for the upcoming 2013 season – including the Garmin Vector, Stages Power Meter, ROTOR power meter and numerous others.

IQ2 Power Meter Changes Direction: Backers Now Getting Pedals

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Pioneer recently noted this in their latest power meters. … Remember, strain gauges are built to measure with extreme sensitivity, and thus pick up on the slightest bend in nanometers.

The Massive Eurobike Power Meter News Roundup: Quarq, Stages, SRM, PowerBeat, Ciclo, Verve Infocrank, Xpedo

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The unit will indeed work with non-SRM power meters and ANT+ sensors, as well as all Bluetooth Smart standard sensors except the power meter (that may come later). … They’ve noted they’ve expended significant time and effort to virtually eliminate variation that can be found when trying to compare different power meters from different riders installed on different bikes.

Checking out the Kayak Power Meter system

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It even shows left-right power (Power Balance) and stroke rate (cadence) – just like many new power meters. … So following the Olympics last summer they’ve revamped the product and focused it more in line with the level of detail that traditional cycling power meters have, and with a similar target audience (amateur and professional competitive athletes).

First Look: The IQ2 149€ Power Meter

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Which doesn’t mean power meters are getting more inaccurate, nor does it mean there’s a race to the bottom. … In fact, power meters have never been more accurate (on the whole) than now.

Kona Bike Count 2018 Power Meter Analysis

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Starting in 2009, the Kona bike count added power meters to the list of counted parts. … Whereas the more weekend warrior road bike rider might not spend the same proportion of income in the sport, and thus is far more likely to buy cheaper power meters (à la Stages, 4iiii, Favero, etc…).

Stages, Wahoo sponsor Team Sky, CycleOps sponsors Trek Pro team, and Team Lampre on ROTOR Power, Movistar on Power2Max

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Wahoo’s announcement this morning that they’re sponsoring Team Sky, makes Sky the epicenter of connected sports technology sponsorships: Stages power meters, Wahoo KICKR’s, and Training Peaks to round it up. … Fast forward to this fall and I published my Garmin Vector review, which contained data from four concurrent power meters – Garmin Vector, PowerTap, SRAM Quarq ELSA, and the Stages Power Meter.

Eurobike Power Meter Update Post: Quarq, ROTOR, Pioneer, Brim Brothers & Ciclosport

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Given the significant number of power meters on the market today, and the relative stability in which these new entrants have gotten their products to – accuracy isn’t looking to be the key differentiator it may once have been a year or two ago. … Keep in mind that once I receive a unit there’s at least 30-45 days before a review is published for power meters due to extensive testing.

Hands-on: Garmin Vector 3 Power Meter

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Today Garmin announced their third generation of power meters, Vector 3. … They noted that they don’t see a ton of value for existing Edge users in using Bluetooth Smart transmission over ANT+ (and I’d agree, there’s actually reasons not to use that for power meters).

Stages Further Lowers Power Meter Pricing to $299

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No matter how you feel about single-sided power meters, there’s zero denying that Stages and their timing of the decade deal with then Team Sky, dramatically increased power meter consumption. … These days of course, Stages is far more than just left-only power meters.

Shimano’s Dura-Ace & Ultegra Power Meter (2nd Gen): Technical Deep-Dive

www.dcrainmaker.com/2021/09/shimano-r9200p-r8100p-dura-ace-ultegra-power-meter-details.html

What’ll arguably be just as interesting is whether or not 3rd party power meters (e.g. … Shimano will be leveraging Pioneer’s pedaling efficiency metrics going forward in their power meters.

Sea Otter Power Meter Roundup: 4iiii Precision, Easton/Race Face CINCH, FSA PowerBox, Team Zwatt, Quarq DZero, Xpedo Thrust-E

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If there was a theme for power meters at Sea Otter this week it would be re-branding. … Half of the power meter announcements were essentially just well-known bike companies offering power meters that are basically ‘powered by’ other preexisting power meter companies.

Hands-on: Stages LR Dual Left/Right Power Meter

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From a communications standpoint the unit follows past Stages power meters and dual transmits on ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart (they were the first to do so). … On that ride up until the last 30 seconds I didn’t see anything unusual, but since it wasn’t on my usual test bike with three power meters, I only have two power meters worth of data.

First Look: Shimano Dura-Ace R9100–Now with power meter option

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The R9100 platform is vast – it covers everything from shifting to brake systems, drivetrains to wheels, and pedals to power meters. … Today, every power meter company in the industry just breathed a huge collective sigh of relief: Shimano did not ultimately decide to baseline their long rumored integrated power meter as part of the Dura-Ace standard offering.

Cycling Dynamics for Assioma Power Meter Pedals Released, New Pedal Bodies Too

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All of the above have been around prior to Cycling Dynamics and are available on many power meters and a number of head units. … Nitpickers corner note: Technically some power meters transmit torque, but from a user standpoint you see power/watts, not torque.

Garmin Edge 510 In-Depth Review

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You can add ANT+ Speed/Cadence sensors, as well as ANT+ power meters. … It’ll do so automatically after just a few hundred meters, by using GPS (assuming you have a speed sensor on as well).

Garmin Edge 810 In-Depth Review

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The 810 supports all ANT+ power meters on the market today. … Workouts allow you to create predefined parameters to follow while outside (or inside).

Kona Bike Count 2019 Power Meter Analysis: 10 Years of Data

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However, this marks the 10th year that power meters have been tracked at Kona. … Whereas the more weekend warrior road bike rider might not spend the same proportion of income in the sport, and thus is far more likely to buy cheaper power meters (à la Stages, 4iiii, Favero, etc…).

PowerPod In-Depth Review

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Just like other power meters have known conditions that are challenging (be it rider, environmental, or otherwise). … Instead, it uses wind measurement and accelerometers to determine power.

Garmin Forerunner 310XT In Depth Review

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One new class of devices that the 310XT supports that previous Forerunner devices haven’t supported is power meters. … Power meters are developed by 3rd party companies that measure how many watts a cyclist is outputting at any given time.

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