Hands on with the new Garmin Edge Touring GPS bike computer

Today (well, technically last night, just barely) Garmin announced the latest addition to their bike computer lineup – the Garmin Touring.

I had a chance to spend time with the product team last April and give them a bunch of feedback on it based on the early stages of development.

I’ll dive into some hands-on time here in a moment, but it’s probably useful to point out that if you’re looking for an Edge 500/510/800/810 replacement, this isn’t it.  This is really targeting a different (though equally as important) market: Cycling tourism.

The Touring is designed for…well…touring.  As in, multi-day bike tours.  These tours are incredibly popular in Europe, though in the states they are pretty limited (as in, basically none).  Thus think of the Touring as a highly simplified version of the Edge 800/810.  It’s not for the performance athlete.  It’s for someone who simply wants to go for a casual ride and not get lost.

Features and Functionality:

The Touring is really focused on a few core feature areas:

– Creation of impromptu round trip routes (not seen before on the Garmin fitness lineup)
– Navigation to and between POI’s (points of interest)
– Basic ride display information (i.e. speed/distance/time/HR/ascent/elevation)

Outside of these core areas much of the more advanced functionality found in other Edge units has been stripped out.

Looking at those three areas, the most interesting (I think anyway) is actually the quick creation of round trip routes from the unit itself.  To do so you’ll simply specify how long a ride you’re looking for (in either miles or kilometers).

You can also specify if you want to start the route from where you are, or from another point on the map.

Once you’ve given it some instructions it’ll go off and come back with three routes (it’s like Monty Python – everything is in threes).  It did take a bit of time (perhaps 2 minutes) to come up with the routes.  Each route is roughly the distance you’ve specified, and all routes come back to where you started.

You can select any given route option to get a map overview:

Additionally, you can click to see the elevation profile of the route:

There are a number of settings around routing and navigation within the options (applicable to round trip routing and generic routing), including how the unit routes and whether it, for example, minimizes routes with hills.

Next up we have navigation to nearby points of interest (POI’s).  These can be places to eat, monuments, or simply an address.

Garmin has pre-loaded the unit with free maps from OpenStreetMap – which is actually a pretty big shift for the company where most maps cost users money.  This past spring you saw the addition of OpenStreetMap to Garmin Connect for map creation – in preparation for this unit being offered.

While navigating you’ll be given a map view, and turn by turn directions (like a car GPS):

In addition to having the unit create a route by itself, you can also create routes on Garmin Connect and download them to the unit (called courses):

You can customize the various data fields associated with that map view as well as specifying how detailed the map is:

In total you’ll get four ‘screens’/pages of information.  You can customize a single data page (called ‘Timer’ below) as well with traditional fields found on the Edge units today (up to 8 fields at once):

One final feature of note is that the unit supports ANT+ enabled eBikes and will add in the eBike’s estimated remaining range and battery information.

The Touring does allow you to pair the ANT+ heart rate strap, but does not allow other sensor types (i.e. cadence sensors, power meters, etc…).

Comparison to other Garmin Edge Units:

I’ve put together a quick comparison table outlining the features and differences in functionality.  You can customize and create your own comparison table using the ‘Product Comparison Calculator’ feature on the sidebar.

Also, remember to click the ‘expand’ button at the bottom of the table to see all one gazillion rows of features.

Function/FeatureGarmin Edge Touring (Normal)Garmin Edge Touring (Plus)Garmin Edge 800Garmin Edge 810
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Price$249.00$249.00$320$399
Product Announcement DateAug 28, 2013Aug 28, 2013Aug 26, 2010Jan 7, 2013
Actual Availability/Shipping DateOct 2013Estimated: Nov 2013Nov 2010Jan 2013
GPS Recording FunctionalityYesYesYesYes
Data TransferUSBUSBUSBUSB & Bluetooth
WaterproofingIPX7IPX7IPX7IPX7
Battery Life (GPS)17 hours17 hours15 hours17 hours
Recording IntervalTBDTBD1-Second or Smart1-Second or Smart
Satellite Pre-Loading via ComputerNoNoNoNo
Quick Satellite ReceptionYesYesYesYes
AlertsSound/VisualSound/VisualSound/VisualSound/Visual
Backlight GreatnessGreatGreatGreatGreat
Ability to download custom apps to unit/deviceNoNoNoNo
Acts as daily activity monitor (steps, etc...)NoNoNoNo
ConnectivityGarmin Edge Touring (Normal)Garmin Edge Touring (Plus)Garmin Edge 800Garmin Edge 810
Bluetooth Legacy (pre-4.0) to PhoneNoNoNoYes
Bluetooth Smart (4.0+) to Phone UploadingNoNoNoNo
Phone Notifications to unit (i.e. texts/calls/etc...)NoNoNoNo
Live Tracking (streaming location to website)NoNoNoYes
Emergency/SOS Message Notification (from watch to contacts)NoNoNoNo
Built-in cellular chip (no phone required)NoNoNoNo
CyclingGarmin Edge Touring (Normal)Garmin Edge Touring (Plus)Garmin Edge 800Garmin Edge 810
Designed for cyclingYesYesYesYes
Power Meter CapableNoNoYesYes
Power Meter Configuration/Calibration OptionsN/AN/AYesYes
Power Meter TSS/NP/IFN/AN/AYesYes
Speed/Cadence Sensor CapableNoNoYesYes
Strava segments live on deviceNoNoQ3 2015
RunningGarmin Edge Touring (Normal)Garmin Edge Touring (Plus)Garmin Edge 800Garmin Edge 810
Designed for runningNoNoNoNo
SwimmingGarmin Edge Touring (Normal)Garmin Edge Touring (Plus)Garmin Edge 800Garmin Edge 810
Designed for swimmingNoNoNoNo
TriathlonGarmin Edge Touring (Normal)Garmin Edge Touring (Plus)Garmin Edge 800Garmin Edge 810
Designed for triathlonNoNoNoNo
WorkoutsGarmin Edge Touring (Normal)Garmin Edge Touring (Plus)Garmin Edge 800Garmin Edge 810
Create/Follow custom workoutsNoNoYesYes
On-unit interval FeatureNoNoYesYes
Training Calendar FunctionalityNoNoNoYes
FunctionsGarmin Edge Touring (Normal)Garmin Edge Touring (Plus)Garmin Edge 800Garmin Edge 810
Auto Start/StopYesYesYesYes
Virtual Partner FeatureNoNoYesYes
Virtual Racer FeatureNoNoNoYes
Records PR's - Personal Records (diff than history)TBDNoNoYes
Day to day watch abilityNoNoN/ANo
Hunting/Fishing/Ocean DataNoNoNoNo
Tidal Tables (Tide Information)NoNoNoNo
Jumpmaster mode (Parachuting)NoNoNoNo
GeocachingNoNoNoNo
Weather Display (live data)NoNoNoYes
NavigateGarmin Edge Touring (Normal)Garmin Edge Touring (Plus)Garmin Edge 800Garmin Edge 810
Follow GPS Track (Courses/Waypoints)YesYesYesYes
Markers/Waypoint DirectionYesYesYesYes
Routable/Visual Maps (like car GPS)YesYesYesYes
Back to startYesYesYesYes
Impromptu Round Trip Route CreationYesYesNoNo
Download courses/routes from phone to unitNoNoNoYes
SensorsGarmin Edge Touring (Normal)Garmin Edge Touring (Plus)Garmin Edge 800Garmin Edge 810
Altimeter TypeGPSBarometricBarometricBarometric
Compass TypeGPSGPSGPSGPS
Optical Heart Rate Sensor internallyNoNoN/A
Heart Rate Strap CompatibleNoYesYesYes
ANT+ Heart Rate Strap CapableNoYesYesYes
ANT+ Speed/Cadence CapableNoNoYesYes
ANT+ Footpod CapableNoNoNoNo
ANT+ Power Meter CapableNoNoYesYes
ANT+ Weight Scale CapableNoNoYesYes
ANT+ Fitness Equipment (Gym)NoNoNoNo
ANT+ Lighting ControlNoYesQ3 2015
ANT+ Bike Radar IntegrationNoYesQ3 2015
ANT+ Trainer Control (FE-C)NoNoNo
ANT+ Remote ControlNoNoNoYes
ANT+ eBike CompatibilityNoYesNoNo
Shimano Di2 ShiftingNoYes
Bluetooth Smart HR Strap CapableNoNoNoNo
Bluetooth Smart Speed/Cadence CapableNoNoNoNo
Bluetooth Smart Footpod CapableNoNoNoNo
Bluetooth Smart Power Meter CapableNoNoNoNo
Temp Recording (internal sensor)NoYesYesYes
Temp Recording (external sensor)NoNoNoNo
Compatible with Firstbeat HR toolsNoNoNoNo
SoftwareGarmin Edge Touring (Normal)Garmin Edge Touring (Plus)Garmin Edge 800Garmin Edge 810
PC ApplicationGarmin ExpressGarmin ExpressGarmin Training Center/BasecampGarmin Express
Web ApplicationGarmin ConnectGarmin ConnectGarmin ConnectGarmin Connect
Phone AppGarmin Connect (iOS/Android)Garmin Connect (iPhone/Android)GARMIN CONNECT (IPHONE/ANDROID)Garmin Connect (iOS/Android)
Ability to Export SettingsNoNoNoNo
PurchaseGarmin Edge Touring (Normal)Garmin Edge Touring (Plus)Garmin Edge 800Garmin Edge 810
Amazon LinkLinkLinkLinkLink
Clever Training Link (Save 10% with DCR10BTF)LinkLinkLinkLink
Clever Training Europe (Save 10% with DCR10BTF)LinkLink
DCRainmakerGarmin Edge Touring (Normal)Garmin Edge Touring (Plus)Garmin Edge 800Garmin Edge 810
Review LinkLinkLinkLinkLink

Pricing and Availability:

The Touring will be available in the Fall of this year.  I’m hearing that’ll likely be late September or early October.  There are two variants of the unit:

Edge Touring (standard): $249US
Edge Touring Plus: $299US – adds ANT+ HR support, ANT+ eBike support, and the barometric altimeter

Ultimately, the Edge Touring is physically an Edge 800 hardware unit (thus, has the same battery life, screen size, etc…) with different firmware on it.  This practice is common with Garmin, and we’ve seen it done in other units – i.e. FR110/FR210, Edge 200/Edge 500, FR610/Golf Watches, Fenix/Quatix.  They take the same base hardware platform and slightly tweak the software to appeal to a different market.

I’ll be doing an in-depth review closer to the retail availability of the product, though in the meantime feel free to ask any questions here.  It’s a fairly straight forward unit with a simpler feature set, so there’s not quite as much to cover as compared to a more complex Garmin Edge 810 or similar product.

Lastly, do not expect an Edge 810 replacement anytime soon.  The Edge 810 is less than 8 months old (announced early January 2013, available  later that month).  Garmin product cycles are very pattern-oriented and tend to be no less than 2 years on the dot.

Thanks for reading!

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Garmin Edge Touring (See dropdown to select normal or Pro variant)

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As you’ve seen throughout the review there are numerous compatible accessories for the unit. I’ve consolidated them all into the below chart, with additional information (full posts) available on some of the accessories to the far right. Also, everything here is verified by me – so if it’s on the list, you’ll know it’ll work. And as you can see, I mix and match accessories based on compatibility – so if a compatible accessory is available at a lower price below, you can grab that instead.

Edge Touring (non-Plus variant):

AccessoryManufacturerStreet PriceAmazon LinkClever Training Link (Save 10% with DCR10BTF)Clever Training Europe (Save 10% with DCR10BTF)B&H Photo LinkMore Info
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Barfly Tate Labs Road Bike Handlebar MountBarfly/Tate Labs$25LinkN/ALink
Barfly Tate Labs Timetrial/Triathlon Bike MountBarfly/Tate Labs$37LinkN/ALink
Garmin Edge 810 Rubber Cases (Variety of colors)Garmin$12.00LinkLinkN/A
Garmin Edge Series Extra Bike Mounts (2 sets in box)Garmin$10.00LinkLinkN/A
Garmin Edge Series Mini-USB Car ChargerGarmin$10.00LinkLinkN/A
Garmin out-front bike mount (For all Edge units, 310XT/910XT/920XT with Quick Release)Garmin$38.00LinkLinkN/A
Garmin/PowerMonkey Explorer Solar Charger (co-branded)Garmin/PowerMonkey$89LinkLinkN/A
K-Edge Garmin Handlebar Mount X-Large for Edge units (including Edge 1000)K-Edge$45.00N/ALinkN/A

Edge Touring Plus variant:

AccessoryManufacturerStreet PriceAmazon LinkClever Training Link (Save 10% with DCR10BTF)Clever Training Europe (Save 10% with DCR10BTF)B&H Photo LinkMore Info
Copyright DC Rainmaker - Updated November 21st, 2016 @ 5:37 pm
Barfly Tate Labs Road Bike Handlebar MountBarfly/Tate Labs$25LinkN/ALink
Barfly Tate Labs Timetrial/Triathlon Bike MountBarfly/Tate Labs$37LinkN/ALink
Garmin ANT+ Heart Rate Strap (Classic Plastic Strap) - HRM1Garmin$37.00LinkLinkN/A
Garmin ANT+ Heart Rate Strap (Premium Soft-Strap) - HRM2Garmin$69.00LinkLinkN/A
Garmin ANT+ Heart Rate Strap (Premium Soft-Strap) - HRM3Garmin$50LinkLinkLink
Garmin ANT+ Heart Rate Strap (with Running Dynamics) - HRM-RunGarmin$99.00LinkLinkLinkLink
Garmin ANT+ Replacement HR Strap (for HRM3/HRM-RUN - just the strap portion)Garmin$28.00LinkLinkN/A
Garmin Edge 810 Rubber Cases (Variety of colors)Garmin$12.00LinkLinkN/A
Garmin Edge Series Extra Bike Mounts (2 sets in box)Garmin$10.00LinkLinkN/A
Garmin Edge Series Mini-USB Car ChargerGarmin$10.00LinkLinkN/A
Garmin out-front bike mount (For all Edge units, 310XT/910XT/920XT with Quick Release)Garmin$38.00LinkLinkN/A
Garmin/PowerMonkey Explorer Solar Charger (co-branded)Garmin/PowerMonkey$89LinkLinkN/A
K-Edge Garmin Handlebar Mount X-Large for Edge units (including Edge 1000)K-Edge$45.00N/ALinkN/A

Thanks for reading! And as always, feel free to post comments or questions in the comments section below, I’ll be happy to try and answer them as quickly as possible. And lastly, if you felt this review was useful – I always appreciate feedback in the comments below. Thanks!

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  • I ordered the Euro Carte (map of Europe) from Garmin, the last thing you want is to order a map that doesn't work. It comes on the SD microcard.

    • yes, via Garmin Express. Download it, its free. So they do update the map at least once a year. Garmin is a quality company, the idea that they would sell a product and not maintain it is ridiculous.

      As far as using the Touring model, I agree it has its limitations, make sure you set the battery for max. savings for long rides. I use Ride with GPS and download the files to the unit.
      Also, studying the route on Google maps, for example, is a good idea prior to heading out on unknown roads.

      I am going on a 4 week tour in France. I'll get you some feed back when I get back.

  • I can't find any information about how big the internal memory is. Would it be a better option to record the tours on an external sd-card?

  • My Touring Plus has been freezing on me during rides. When this happens, I cannot turn the device off, move to another screen or do anything! I have contacted Garmin and they have me delete some files and that works for a couple times and it then does it again. Any suggestions? It's very frustrating and I cannot trust this device. Thanks, your site is fantastic.

    • As a general rule with Garmin Edge devices (and other Garmin devices in general), when you see freezes/crashes it's almost always corruption of the disk. That can be fixed by either a hard reset, or if you plug it into your computer it'll often say it needs to fix corruption (let it do that).

      In the case of the units that accept a Micro-SD card, that can sometimes also be the case with a simple corrupted card. It might be worth it to swap the card out (only a $10 cost or so).

  • Dear Rainmaker (nice name). I have shared your article on my facebook time-line. Very good review, to me. Question: my powerbank says: OUT-1A and OUT-2A. Should I connect the GARMIN Edge Touring USB cable to the 1A socket, or to the 2A socket? The barrey of the Egde Touring is depleted after around 9 hours but then I am still on my way, now and then. That is why I bought a powerbank. I need to have the Edge Touring working for 12-15 hrs in 1 run. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR ANSWER RAINMAN - emmanuel

    • The last time I measured the Edge's were pulling around .7 to .8A, so the 1A one is fine. But it doesn't really matter in this case, because USB will pull the power required by the device (up to the max cap on that port). So in this case, it'll pull the same .7-.8A from either one. Whereas if you had something like an iPad, you'd want to give it the 2Amp one, because it'll pull up to that level.

  • I have the Edge Touring Plus and have had numerous issues with it. Should my Data Recording be to Memory Card or Internal Storage? I'm hoping changing my storage could help. Thanks!

  • Does anyone know if you can use websites like cycle.travel to plan routes and download the GPX files onto this GPS instead of creating routes on the unit itself?

    Thanks

    Karl.

  • I have only just received my Garmin Edge touring yesterday and have already regretted buying it! firstly it cannot read routes imported from cycle.travel using GPX files the way my walking GPS can and the routing system both doesn't work properly and is incredibly tedious to use! This device doesn't recognise any towns or roads I put into it and finding places by the map itself takes hours.I read rave reviews of this device but they must have come from people that are related to Garmin or get sponsors from them because this device is utterly crap! Furthermore even if you chose the option always on the thing tries shutting down every two minutes and the battery went from 100 percent to 77 percent in a 3 mile 15 minute trip so clearly that's about as good as a chocolate Tea pot or perhaps it's only meant for 1 hour rides.Anyway I was ripped off again but that's my fault for believing the hype!

    • I doubt they do Michael and if their dreadful customer service is anything to go by I doubt they make much effort at all!

    • Hello Mr Rainmaker thanks for your response unfortunately it isn't that simple because I have done just what you said a dozen times now but the file is nowhere to be found on my Edge touring.Cycle.travel offers routes in different formats for most GPs units,Garmin's newer ones and marks turns they are GPX,TCX and KML none of which show on the device itself.If however I connect my device to my mac I can clearly see these files in the new files folder and have even tried putting them into the GPX folder but they still do not show on the device itself!

    • It seems there is a bit of confusion in this portion of the thread.

      Just to clarify one thing, which seems to be the basis for other confusion...you can use use GPX files for routes. It's just as simple as any other device. You simply drag them into the 'NewFiles' folder on your Garmin. That's it. Really, that's all.

    • "I do wonder if Garmin has any actual feedback from groups of touring users or just some developers in an office somewhere with a few marketers."

      I get the impression that they did little or no real-world testing before releasing this product (see my comment #186 above.)

    • Hi Karl,
      You may be confusing me with someone else, there are several posts. I didn't give out any phone numbers, I agree about Connect, a friend recommended Open Runner which I am now using. Downloading onto the device is pretty straight forward. I used the device last summer on a trip to Eastern France and le Midi (the South of France). I wound up in the middle of a vineyards, olive groves, and fields, eventually found paved roads either on my own or asking people (people tending the vines), fortunately I am fluent in French. Anyway, I always have a blast on these adventures and it was dry so I didn't get caught in mud or anything like that. As I mentioned, this summer I am going to be riding in Spain and Portugal and France again.
      I'll see how it all goes. Agree with all your comments about how awkward and ineffective the device is.
      Best wishes on your travels and safe biking.
      Ray

    • I'm away currently and cannot verify the phone # I posted is correct. (My memory!) The clunky way I plot courses (had to learn the Garmin jargon) is to open a Google maps window and a Connect window. Then I try to create the Google route on Connect. That's where Connect often rejects routs that it deems unsafe for cycling. No one knows what criteria Garmin uses to rule a particular route unsafe.

      When cycling in Europe with a colleague that had another Garmin that offered more routing options, such as for a car, he would show a different route. We often followed a perfectly appropriate highway/car route while the Edge showed some obscure, windy, poorly surfaced side route that seemed to climb every hill available. So, pre-plotted routes were OK, on the ride routes, useless unless the destination was close, 10-20 miles.

      Regarding screen legibility, I find it really poor with sunglasses. However, if I can get it out of shadows, I can read it in direct sun, most of the time. I usually set it on the 15-second screen display mode.

      Setting a destination address is odd. I have to enter the address (better be absolutely correct) then save it so I can locate later under the prior searches listing. I have not found how to enter and simply save a series of addresses or locations. Again, not a great product, but I have found a way to get some utility. I still try to have paper maps—old school.

    • Hello again by the way that phone number you gave doesn't not exist but I have found the Garmin customer services on the landline utterly unfit for purpose.

    • Hello thanks for your response Garmin connect won't work with my computer and if it's as complicated as base camp I don't want to know.

    • Hello thanks for your response the GPX thing is the file that sites such as cycle.travel create for your GPS with my old Satmap you just drag and drop and everything is ok it takes seconds unlike Garmin which takes hours to create the same route.As for turning the brightness that may make the battery last longer but then you cannot see the screen in bright sunlight.Any this is going back I'll buy an Oregon or etrex instead.As for Garmin's customer service it isn't fit for purpose.

    • I agree. Fine if you can plan in Connect and the map is of some use. The GPS will show you your location, so that's helpful along with paper maps or a smartphone. But as a do it all touring guide? Hopeless.

      You can invest in a dynamo hub and then add B&M's USB headlamp or something like the SineWave charger, but that's lots of bucks.

      Even on local rides, trying to get the Touring to create a return route will stall it. It just sits there recalculating.

      I do wonder if Garmin has any actual feedback from groups of touring users or just some developers in an office somewhere with a few marketers.

    • I too find the Edge Touring awkward to use. After nearly 2 years, I have come to some accommodation. First, the menu makes minimal sense, not intuitive, so familiarization take s a long time. The best recommendation I can offer to that is that the Garmin customer service help people are excellent. Use the 800 800 1020 number. If you call the one listed on the web, you get a know minimal from some outsourcing partner.

      I don't get nor use GPX files. Never figured them out, so if you do, you are ahead of me.

      I have only planned "courses" in Connect, then transferred them o the Edge. Often Garmin will not allow certain courses that you can plan on Google, even though Google might be the underlying selected map option. In that event, I end the course and start another. For example, I am planning a trip where the locals say to cross the Mississippi on the I bridge. Garmin won't permit. so I end and restart on the opposite side.

      When touring in Europe, I find the Edge is OK to find your way out of a city bu setting a nearby target city, less than 20 miles. Otherwise, it takes forever to plot and arrives at a winding route that you will not want to take. Without a replotted course, you are screwed. Only the map is somewhat helpful.

      As others noted, turn off the back lighting and I can get 3-4 local rides in. A key need is to power down when you stop overnight or it will be dead in the morning. Also, it is practical only when you have overnight power (hotel stay) to recharge. If camping, not so good. It will recharge on a solar array, but that is iffy.

      Invariably, if you are not on a pre-planned course, the Edge will suggest crazy routes. Perhaps the underlying assumption is that you are on a mountain bike. You will be riding on a crap surfaced road with a perfectly smooth highway with wide shoulder nearby. Good luck.

    • Sorry I meant to say the charged went from 100 to 77 percent in only 15 minutes which means the battery will be flat in one hour.

    • Hello again Ray thanks for your response good luck with your trip as well.I mainly bought this for the maps but am very disappointed that GPX files downloaded from cycle.travel and sites that convert Google map files to GPX do not show anywhere on edge touring even through you can drag and drop them onto the unit.As for the light the unit stays bright but still wants to switch off every two minutes even though I selected the always on option.Furthermore this GPS won't last all day as it last 23 percent charge in only 15 minutes of use from a fully charged battery.This wouldn't be a problem if it could be powered through my E-WERK and dynamo hub but sadly it cannot despite the cycle shop where I bought it telling me so.

    • Hi Karl,
      My next trip is from Bilbao to Vigo then from Porto to Salamanca. Around 1,200 k. After that I have a few day trips planed in the South of France and North of Paris. Yes, I am bringing some paper maps too, in this case, more is more.
      I hope I have figured out how to use it by Aug 13th as that is when I am leaving. The only other thing I would add if you set the devise to minimize screen time, mine goes dim after a few seconds, it will last several hours, basically all day before it needs re-charging.
      Best wishes on your trip
      Ray

    • Hello thanks for your comment well if you haven't got used to it in two years I won't get anywhere by the time I cycle from Nottingham to St Petersburg starting this July.I bought this because my current GPS the Satmap active 10 needs a general service which would cost £50.00 plus the mapping for trip will cost £320.00 so I thought as the Edge touring has most of Europe on the map this would be the better bet.However now I think I will get my old GPS repaired and just use it to give me a rough location on the base map and revert to carrying loads of paper maps for the trip which will actually cost more than the Edge touring but would be cheaper the the Satmap maps.Also unlike my Satmap the Edge touring cannot be powered by my E-werk and hub dynamo so I would have to charge my cach battery and use that to recharge the Edge touring every time the battery runs out which will be often.Anyway what you have told me has convinced me to ask for a refund so thank you!

    • Hi Karl,

      I agree it's not user friendly. I am still trying to figure it out and I have had it for over 2 years. I have a trip planned in August and after that, I will make a definitive decision, ie whether to chuck it in the trash or just keep it as a odometer.

    • Well this device is supposed to be able to plan routes by choose cities or coordinates from the GPS itself but as I have said with my old GPS I use cycle.travel but the Garmin struggles to read GPX files and when it does it can take up to 4 and and half hours to calculate the trip.My Satmap Active 10 only takes seconds.

    • Hi Karl,

      As many have documented, you cannot plan routes on the devise. You can use something like Open Runner or other route planning software to plan routes and then download. That is what I do.

    • Hello after a couple of dozen times and a few factory resets I finally got a GPX file onto the edge touring however two files were on the device and only show showed.Furthermore the files have to be dragged into the GPX folder not the New files as many suggest.I have given up with this device now and will be returning it due to many reasons apart from the tediousness of the GPX file transfers but it also takes 4 and half hours to calculate a 100 mile route and when planing from the device it cannot find many well known places such as Hamburg.Well thanks for trying to help me bye.

    • Thanks for that but that guide tell you to go on the website but what website that's the question.As it is at the moment though I can put these files onto my Edge touring but they cannot be read,maybe I need Garmin connect and a software update unfortunately my computer OS isn't compatible with Garmin connect.However if you don't believe me try downloading a GPX file from a route created with cycle.travel and drag and drop it into the new files folder.

    • I found the Edge works best IF you plan the route in "Connect," transfer it to the Edge as a "Course", and then follow that route. I found its guidance unreliable on longer routes, say a twin 30-50 miles away. IT might direct you to a dirt path. However, it is helpful, but not reliable, if you use it to find something under 10 miles. Examples might be to find you way out of a city, set the destination as a nearby small city on our route. Or, at the end of the day when you near your destination, plug in the address and hope the route is not too goofy.

      I think the issue with the Edge is that you cannot set route restrictions as you can with more sophisticated Garmin devices, such as "all highway" or "most direct." Thus, it directs you to what might be considered safer routes. For example, on a tour from Mobile to St. Louis, it kept directing me to a winding, hilly, longer, side road with a terrible, broken surface. We preferred the newer highway with a nice shoulder, nice surface, fewer hills, and still moderate traffic.

    • The Garmin at best is a guide, it does give some good info, such as speed, direction, altitude, time, records our route, etc. I did about 1,000 miles in Northern Spain and Portugal, Central Spain, the South of France and North of Paris. The best tool bar none was downloading Google maps of the areas I was cycling in to my Android, when you open the map, it will pin point your locations.

      Best of luck and safe travels!

      Ray

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