JUMP TO:

BUY NOW:

  • Amazon.com
  • Clever Training
  • REI
  • Wiggle

Garmin Edge 1030 Plus In-Depth Review

Garmin-Edge1030Plus-Review

Like with most Garmin products that tack on a ‘Plus’ designator, the changes from the Edge 1030 to the Edge 1030 Plus aren’t earth-shattering. In fact, the Edge 1030 received overwhelmingly more changes last summer when it got a massive firmware update sweep of features from the then new Edge 530 & Edge 830. Still, this unit does have some minor new features that fill in some of the cracks. And ultimately, if you were looking to get an Edge 1030, then just like with a new model year Apple product, you’ll take the minor changes over not.

Still, the Edge 1030 Plus changes aren’t throwaway either. There’s now a streamlined setup process that’ll migrate your old Edge settings and sensors (even from an Edge 1000), plus you’ve now (finally) got free global detailed maps for anywhere you go (except Asia). And the LiveTrack now will actually show your route to the friends/family you share it with. Plus lots of minor changes like re-routing quick-select options when you go off-course, and increased storage up to 32GB. And finally, new daily suggested structured workouts based on your training load.

All of which you can get the full details on in one super efficient video by hitting play below:

I’ve been using the Edge 1030 Plus for all my rides since last month, and I’ve got a pretty good handle on how exactly it works and whether these changes are worth the extra cash for an upgrade from an older Garmin (the price remains the same as the Edge 1030 at $599USD). As usual, this media loaner Edge 1030 Plus will go back to Garmin once I wrap up here with it, and then I’ll go out and get my own. If you found this review useful, simply hit up the links at the bottom of the page. Or, become a DCR Supporter (also, at the bottom).

With that, let’s dive into it!

What’s new:

DSC_6026

Now, I’m going to actually split this list in two. Mostly because it’s plausible (likely in fact), that someone looking at an older Edge 1030 review (even mine), might assume that a bunch of the features of the Edge 1030 Plus aren’t on the base Edge 1030. In fact, they are. They were just added last summer, nearly two years after the Edge 1030 came out.

So, this first list is the differences compared to a fully updated Edge 1030 unit today. In other words, if you just compared an up to date Edge 1030 to the new Edge 1030 Plus, what’s different:

– Now black instead of white: Just like the Bontrager Edge 1030 was, except this says Garmin instead of Bontrager
– *New setup routine: Sensors from your older Garmin unit are automatically imported for you on first use
– *New setup routine: Ride profiles and data fields from your older Garmin unit are automatically imported for you
– Now includes detailed maps for *ANYWHERE* you travel to (all regions…except Asia), free, inclusive of Topo data.
– Now includes Trailforks app pre-loaded (with full Trailforks data sets included)
– Now includes ForkSight, previous Edge 1030 update didn’t include this specifically
– New daily on-device workout suggestions based on training load
– New pause-route option (when you go freestyle off a course)
– New off-course re-route selection options
– *LiveTrack will now show the course/route that you’re on to your friends/family (whoever you’ve shared the route to)
– Onboard Storage size has been increased from 16GB to 32GB
– MicroSD card expansion slot has been removed (since you’ve got tons of on-board storage space)
– Beeper/Chirper an eff-ton louder (and a bit different)
– Up to 48 hours of GPS-on run time in a basic configuration, 36 in mid, and 24-hours in high navigation/sensor configuration
– New display/touchscreen to match that of the technology used on the Edge 830
– New Sony GPS Chipset (to match most other Garmin devices since 2019)

*These features will come to the existing Edge 1030, Edge 530, and Edge 830 later this year in Q4.

Now everything else you know about the Edge 1030 remains the same. The above are the only differences I’ve been able to find (or were told about).

As for the setup routine transfer bits, that’s actually pretty interesting. I’ll dig into it below, but in short, recent firmware updates for virtually every mid-range or higher Garmin Edge unit made in the last 6 years supports this. Specifically the Edge 1000, 1030, 520, 520 Plus, 530, 820, and 830.

Next though, we’ve got what is roughly the differences since release of the Edge 1030. This is somewhat of a throw-away list for users familiar with these products, but if you’re again coming from older reviews, it’s useful to understand what was added to the Edge 1030 from the Edge 530/830 series last year (via free firmware updates):

– Added ClimbPro: Automatically shows how much distance/elevation remains for each climb on route
– Added Mountain Bike Metrics: Shows Grit, Flow, and Jump details on both unit and Garmin Connect
– Added Heat Acclimation: Will automatically take into account heat/humidity for performance/recovery metrics
– Added Altitude Acclimation: Will automatically take into account (high) elevation for performance/recovery metrics
– Added Training Plan API support: This includes a redesigned structured workout execution page
– Added Courses API Support: This allows course/route downloads automatically from partners like Strava & Komoot
– Added Hydration/Nutrition Smart Alerts: When using a course/route, it’ll automatically figure out how much water/calories you should be taking
– Added Hydration/Nutrition Tracking: It allows you to record this data in ride summary screens and log it on Garmin Connect
– Added Performance Power Curve: This shows you your mean maximal power over different durations/time frames (like many training sites)
– Added Bike Alarm Feature: Used for cafes/bathroom stops, emits loud alarm if bike is moved
– Added ‘Find my Edge’ feature: Automatically record exact GPS location on your phone if Edge is disconnected (in case unit pops off)
– Added Training Plan Weather/Gear Tips: Basically tells you to HTFU when it’s cold out

Again, nothing on that list there is new to the Edge 1030 Plus. It’s simply making it clear that all those features that you might see marketed as Edge 1030 Plus features are also there on the Edge 1030 already today.

Ok, with that sweeping overview done, let’s dive into how to use it.

The Basics:

Edge1030Plus-Basics

In general I tend to skip over some of the setup aspects of devices these days since it’s trivial and repetitive (assuming no issues). But with the Edge 1030 Plus it’s notable because it’s a major shift for Garmin away from the past. It’s also an area that historically Wahoo has done SO MUCH better than Garmin (and a key thing people cite as to why they switched to a Wahoo unit over a Garmin).

So this time around I’m gonna talk about it, again, cause it’s finally different. Which isn’t to say its perfect, but it’s an improvement.  With the Edge 1030 Plus the setup process will do two key things:

A) It’ll import all your old screens/data field configuration from past Garmin Edge devices
B) It’ll import all your paired sensors automatically

How it does this is actually pretty interesting. With the first one, Garmin has released a firmware update for the following devices (Edge 520, Edge 520 Plus, Edge 530, Edge 820 Edge 830, Edge 1000, Edge 1030, Bontrager Edge 1030) quietly over the last month that enables those devices to be compatible with the Edge 1030 Plus setup process. So after you order your Edge 1030 Plus, go and update your older bike computer first and do a ride (even if just a few seconds) so that it’ll sync that data up.

As for sensors, those too are already happening in the background. Garmin will automatically pull in any paired sensors from the last 365 days of uploads to Garmin Connect – up to the maximum number of sensors the Edge 1030 Plus supports (30 total).

Here’s how this all looks in the real-world. First, it’ll pull in all your sensors found on Garmin Connect in the last 365 days.

DSC_6021

In my case with all the device testing I do, that means it punches itself in the #$#@. But after it’s done doing that, it does indeed pull down the most recent 30 sensors paired. For normal humans, that’ll more than cover your situations. Also, it’ll even include whatever you named those sensors too (for example my PowerTap P2 pedals are named ‘P2’, and my second set of PowerTap pedals on the Peloton bike are named ‘54715p3’, because when I named them many months ago one random night – that made sense in my head.

Lucky, you don’t see the Favero Assioma pedals in this list, because those are literally named ‘Ass pedals’, since that’s the shortest thing to type on this display.

DSC_6028

This is a one-time pull, so if you update the sensor’s names on other bike computers it won’t pull them in here the next time. Again, that’s fine for 99.99% of people.

Next, as you go through the setup process it’ll ask you if you want to copy in your activity profiles:

DSC_6024

So you’ll see my main activity profile is named as such immediately after setup:

DSC_6027

Now, with that all set let’s take a step back on the basics. The Edge 1030 Plus is a touch-screen driven unit with three dedicated buttons. One on the side for power, and then two at the bottom for stop/start, and lap.

GarminEdge1030Plus-Buttons

The touchscreen is improved over the existing Edge 1030, and is now using the same touchscreen tech as the Edge 830 (which, some 14 months later people seem pretty darn happy with). However, just to demonstrate this, I took it out in the rain…and you can see the footage of that in the video at the start of this post.

P1011013

On the bottom, you’ll find the same old tired micro-USB port. No USB-C here folks. I’m convinced they must ban shipments of USB-C ports to Kansas or something.

Garmin-Edge-1030Plus-USB-Port-BOO

On the main dashboard of the touchscreen are the main features. To start a ride you’d tap the big bike icon. Right now you see ‘DCR Road’, which indicates that’s the activity profile I’ve named. These profiles let you group settings together (such as data fields or how the map looks, hydration/nutrition settings, and a gazillion other features).

Garmin-Edge-1030Plus-DashBoard

You can create numerous activity profiles called anything you want with color coding:

Garmin-Edge1030-Plus-Activity-Profiles

Inside each activity profile you can make those aforementioned settings. Here’s a small survey of those settings:

Speaking of settings, there’s more general settings as well. These control things like sensors, safety features such as crash detection/notification, battery save modes, and even recording rates or HRV recording. It’s mostly dizzying what’s in here. Again, another gallery of various settings.

Since we’re talking settings and sensors, I’ll briefly dive into that. The Edge 1030 Plus supports pretty much every ANT+ & Bluetooth Sensor type in the fitness world for cycling, specifically the following:

ANT+ Cadence only sensors
ANT+ Edge Remote
ANT+ eBike
ANT+ Heart Rate
ANT Garmin inReach Devices (satellite messenger/communicator)
ANT+ Bike Lighting Control
ANT+ Power Meters
ANT+ Radar
ANT+ Gear Shifting (SRAM RED eTAP, Campagnolo EPS)
ANT Shimano DI2
ANT+ Speed/Cadence combo sensors
ANT+ Speed only sensors
ANT+ Varia Vision (aka remote displays)
ANT VIRB Action Cam
Bluetooth Smart Cadence only sensors
Bluetooth Smart Heart Rate
Bluetooth Smart Power Meters
Bluetooth Smart Speed/Cadence Combo
Bluetooth Smart Speed-only sensors

Oh, and then you’ve got 3rd party pieces like Muscle Oxygen sensor support via Connect IQ apps as well (for Moxy, and now discontinued BSX devices).  Plus other 3rd parties have done other private-ANT implementations via Connect IQ too. Same goes for aerodynamic sensors too.

You can pair and store up to 30 sensors. When you activate the sensor on your bike (usually by just spinning the crank or wheel), it’ll wake up the sensor and automatically connect to it. This sensor pool concept has been around many years and works pretty well, especially when you have multiple bikes.

With Garmin now owning Tacx, it also means they’ve ramped up their trainer control interfaces. Nothing here dramatic, and nothing specific to the Edge 1030 Plus, but we’ve seen Garmin spend much of this winter making minor iterations in each new Edge 530/830/1030 Plus firmware version to better integrate trainers. And in fact, virtually all of these changes are applicable for every model of trainer, not limited to Tacx ones (by doing so via ANT+ FE-C trainer control protocol).

Garmin-Edge1030-Plus-TrainerControl

For example, you can now make indoor profiles not start LiveTrack automatically (or not start the lights automatically), or configure the trainer to ride a specific grade (instead of just a given wattage). And then there’s still the abilities to re-ride any route you’ve already ridden, or any route downloaded to the unit that has elevation data in it.

Garmin-Edge1030Plus-TrainerControl-Incline

I’ll touch more on structured training later in this review though. Most of the time you’re probably gonna be riding outdoors with it. To do that, you’ll tap the bicycle icon, which takes you to the data fields you’ve configured. Before you do that though, up at the top you can see your current GPS status, sensor status, phone status, and whether or not you graduated high school on the honor roll.

Garmin-Edge-1030Plus-StatusBar

Once in the data screens, you can simply press the start button to begin your ride:

Garmin-Edge-1030-Plus-DataFields

You’ll swipe left and right to change your data screens. You can also long-hold a given data field to swap it out for something else if you want.

Garmin-Edge1030Plus-Data-Fields

The lower left button is your lap button, while the lower right will pause your ride:

Garmin-Edge1030Plus-Lap-Button

From a screen visibility standpoint,I’ve had zero issues seeing the screen. Nor have I seen any downstream impacts/issues with using the newer Edge 830 display technology (nor for that matter have I had any issues with my Edge 830’s display in the last 14 months or so).

vlcsnap-2020-06-15-23h23m19s065

Once you’re done with your ride it’ll sync via WiFi or Bluetooth Smart automatically to your phone or home WiFi network. Or, if you plug in your Garmin Edge 1030 Plus it’ll sync via USB with Garmin Express. Or, you can simply grab the completed .FIT file off of it like a USB hard drive. Once that’s done it’ll sync that ride to Garmin Connect and then onwards to platforms like Strava, TrainingPeaks, and more. The world is your oyster there (as long as that oyster isn’t Dropbox, sadly).

On the Garmin Connect Mobile app you can look more deeply at your ride and sensor data:

Same goes for online at Garmin Connect web too:

image

None of this has changed from any past Garmin device – it all works the same here.

With that, we’ve covered the basics of the Edge 1030 Plus. I’ve got separate sections for Mapping/Navigation, and another for the structured training aspects. Of course, there are so many features on the Edge 1030 Plus it’s impossible to write about them all without publishing an entire book (unless you consider this 10,000+ word review a book). So invariably there’s some aspect of the unit I didn’t cover here. I try and test and use the devices just like any other person and that includes the features I use personally. And just like you, I probably won’t use every feature combination personally (nobody could, there’s hundreds, if not thousands, of combinations).

But I think the features I do use are most indicative of what most folks use. So, let’s talk mapping.

Mapping & Navigation:

DSC_6012

For the most part, the mapping and navigation on the Edge 1030 Plus hasn’t substantially changed. Instead, the changes are more incremental, though – one is a massive new ‘benefit’ – the inclusion of all maps globally (except Asia). When you buy an Edge 1030 Plus you’ll get on the device itself a ‘pair’, of two regions pre-loaded with detailed TopoActive maps. Here’s the listing of SKU’s and pairings:

North America SKU: Includes North America and European maps

Europe SKU:
Includes North America and European / Africa maps

Australia/New Zealand SKU:
Includes Australia / New Zealand and European / Africa maps

South America SKU:
Includes North America and South American maps.

Asia: Now this is a tough nut. Folks from regions OUTSIDE of Asia will not get Asian maps. My assumption is this is due to the character sets loaded, but I’ve asked Garmin for a technical explanation of why this will. Will update when I hear back.

This by itself is a huge deal in the Garmin world. Up until now you only got maps for the region you bought it in. For anything else you had to use 3rd party maps (and you still can if you want). However, those maps lacked the underlying heatmap (aka Trendline Popularity routing) data that’s so useful when you’re out and about and want a faster/better/different route. So the fact that you now get multiple regions pre-loaded is big.

But what’s even bigger is Garmin is finally joining all of their rivals in allowing you to download maps for any region out there. To do that you’ll use a computer (Mac or PC) and the Garmin Express app, which shows you the regions you want. Remember the Edge 1030 Plus got expanded storage, now 32GB instead of 16GB. In general, regions tends to be about 7-9GB.

Here’s what my North America one shows (in this case, Africa falls under the Europe mapset), when I go to the new ‘Manage Maps’ option in Garmin Express:

image

Note that there isn’t a WiFi-driven option (like with Wahoo, Hammerhead, and Sigma). I’d love to see them offer that eventually. There’s pros and cons to both methods. For example, the WiFi one is great when you’re at home on a WiFi network that doesn’t have an ‘I Accept’ type page. However, that approach entirely breaks if you’re at a hotel, Starbucks, etc, where the bike computer can’t press the “I Accept” button. So in this case as long as you had a computer with you that could connect to WiFi, then you’re golden. Or just remember to add the regions ahead of time.

When it comes to the Edge 1030 Plus, you’ve got a few ways you can route:

– Load a course from a platform like Strava Routes, Komoot, RideWithGPS, or others
– Create a course on Garmin Connect (web or smartphone)
– Enter an address/location/point of interest on the Edge 1030 Plus itself
– Re-ride a past activity as a course on the Edge 1030 Plus
– Wave it around in the sky and hope it gets you somewhere
– Have it generate a ‘Round-Trip Course’ on the fly with a given distance/preferred direction
– Route to a saved location (such as your home/work/etc…)
– Browse the map and navigate to that location
– Leverage TrailForks for mountain bike trails (on-device)
– Manually load a GPX/TCX/FIT file course onto the Edge 1030 Plus
– Route ‘Back to start’ mid-ride

Seriously, there’s so many ways to ride a route/course it’s kinda nuts. And frankly, there’s even variants of the above.

Garmin-Edge1030-Plus-Routing-Options

It used to be that the main thing the Edge 10xx series devices had over lesser devices was being able to pick an address/POI/etc and route directly to it on the Edge. However, these days the Edge 830 can do that, and the Edge 530 can do aspects of that too. Instead, for the most part what you’re paying for with the Edge 10xx series is a larger screen.

In my case, I predominantly use Strava Routes for all my routes, though I’ve done a few recent ones with Komoot. One thing to be aware of with Garmin Routes is that *ONLY* Strava routes using the new routing API will include Strava Segments. So, if you use a Komoot route, you won’t get any Strava Live Segments on your Garmin during the ride (they’ll show up afterwards when you upload the ride). This sucks for people that really like other non-Strava mapping platforms but still like Strava Live Segments.

I wrote an entire post just a few weeks ago on how that all works, so I won’t re-hash it. But in short, once you create a route on Strava and then favorite it, it’ll automatically show up on your Edge 1030 Plus as soon as it syncs (via WiFi, Bluetooth, or USB). It won’t pull down previously starred routes though, so you’ll need to unstar and start them to get them to sync to a newly setup Edge 1030 Plus.

image

Though, there still isn’t any easy/obvious way to tell an already-on Edge to simply grab the latest routes from those platforms (like there is on the Wahoo units). In any case…from there you’ll tap Navigation > Courses > Saved Courses, and choose the course you want:

Garmin-Edge-1030Plus-Select-Course

At this point you can view summary information about the course, as well as the map, elevation data, and even tweak the color of the line.

Garmin-Edge1030-Plus-Course-Options Garmin-Edge-1030-Plus-MapView

Note that depending on how big the course is, it won’t show the high detail map until you zoom in a bit, which is kinda weird.

Obviously, being in the city below with lots of canals, it’s kinda hard to see the blue line of the route.

Garmin-Edge-1030Plus-MapViewDetailed

You’ll go ahead and tap the ride button, which will start calculating the route. It won’t actually start your timer yet (but will remind you). Now the calculation is something that Garmin says they’ve significantly improved here, via increasing the processor hardware. Specifically they said it should be in line with the Edge 830 now and significantly faster than the original Edge 1030. It does seem that way in some places, but not others – notably, not in calculating routes though for me, which still takes a long-ass time (like, many minutes).

Garmin says a firmware update that the city-aspect with the extreme density of bike routes in Amsterdam is slowing things down. However, most places won’t see that level of density.

Now, it’s worthwhile noting that you don’t have to wait for it to finish ‘calculating’ the route. You can press start almost immediately and it’ll still give you routing details immediately. It’ll just finish the rest of the course in the background. I tried that on a few routes and it did it just fine.

Garmin-Edge-1030Plus-Calculating

While you’re riding you’ll get turn by turn directions as you approach a given turn. So you can stay on your normal data fields/pages, and then when you near a turn, it’ll chirp and show you this page – counting down till the turn. Here’s three different looks at that.

6111 9307 6068

After the turn, it’ll go back to your regular data fields. You can also simply keep the map page up the entire time if you want as well:

4976 1454 1601

Now if you go off-course it’ll warn you within usually about 3-5 seconds depending on your speed. However, this is where one of the changes is on the Edge 1030 Plus – the new re-routing and pause navigation options. Once you go off-course, you’ll get three new ‘Re-routing’ options:

A) Re-join where you left the course
B) Skip ahead to the next logical point to re-join course
C) Cut across the course to somewhere way downstream

How each of these reacts will depend entirely on your course and where you are. For example, on my ride this morning (which was a wonky lollipop route), I made a purposeful route diversion in the first 60 seconds. The three options thus were quite drastically different, with the rejoin/skip being spot-on as expected, but the ‘Cut Across’ option basically said ‘Let’s call it a day and go home’. And you can’t really fault Garmin here, it’s doing exactly what it says – cut the course (useful on a much longer course when you just need to get home).

Here’s those three screens from today’s ride:

1189 1194 1203

In addition, the new pause navigation option is handy when you might specifically go off-route to a coffee shop and don’t want to be constantly beeped about it. Or, recently I used it when I created a course that led me to a track where I was doing loops for a while. I didn’t want to create that as part of my route, so this allowed me to pause navigation while I did my loops, and then resume it when I was done.

You can see this comes up on any screen you’re o, so you don’t have to be in the map screen. That ‘Re-Route’ button takes you to the three options listed above.

9184 1175 5465

From an overall routing standpoint, I haven’t had any route/re-routing/calculation type failures issues on any of my rides. I’ve purposefully gone off-course numerous times to see how it’d handle (and a few times not on course). In fact, over the last 2-3 weeks I’ve tried planning numerous new routes or portions of routes that I haven’t ever ridden before, just to put it to the test. And I’ve purposefully gone off course so many times I’m sure my LiveTrack following peeps thought I was stupid or drunk (or both).

Zero issues.

But then again, that’s probably not surprising. If we look at the Edge 1030 Garmin Forums, you’ll find over the last 30 days that there are a mere 2 threads related to routing issues (out of hundreds of posts). One thread had no usable detail/information, while the other did, but seemed related to loading additional maps. Point being, routing on these devices is rarely an issue in 2020 – and that’s what I saw.

The main factor that’s probably worth complaining about is more the speed of the display. Compared to the Hammerhead Karoo or Sigma ROX12 units based on Android, it’s substantially slower and less responsive (those act like the phones they are). The challenge is: Is that trade-off worth it?

DSC_6017

From a routing standpoint, Garmin’s map layers have consistently performed better for me (especially in edge cases). But sidestepping that, and talking displays, it’s trickier. The Hammerhead Karoo has a stunning display and as you move around with your fingers to see what’s around you, it’s as fast as a phone. Though, it lacks POI (points of interest database) information. Visibility-wise both seem fine to me, no issues in sun or rain. And touch-screen-wise, all companies there have done things that makes that a non-issue (again, even in rain – as seen above).

Of course, the main reason Garmin uses the display technology they do is battery life. Specifically, conservation of it. Garmin claims upwards of 24hrs of runtime on the Edge 1030 Plus. Whereas the Karoo claims 12-15 hours depending on features. Now, whether or not that matters to an individual rider will vary. While the ‘that’s damn pretty’ aspect of me appreciates the Karoo display’s speed, the practical side of me knows that from a routing/re-routing standpoint it hasn’t really mattered any. As anyone in the industry will tell you, Garmin’s real secret sauce at this point is the heatmap (Trendline Popularity routing) data, which basically means taking all the tens of millions of rides that users upload each year to Garmin Connect automatically, and determining the best bike routes from that. Their other secret sauce is having simply done bicycle routing for more than a decade now. It makes it immensely difficult for their competitors to catch-up on that specific piece. Inversely, having a decades worth of features make it hard for Garmin to make tough decisions on legacy features that weigh it down.

DSC_6013

Switching topics briefly to some of the on-device routing functions, there’s round-trip routing, which gives you three different one-off routes you can follow, based on the distance you selected. You can also specify a direction of travel.

Garmin-Edge-1030Plus-RoundTripRouting

The Edge 1030 series allows you to enter in a specific street address you want to route to:

Garmin-Edge-1030Plus-addressLocation

As well as search for nearby points of interest. such as restaurants or tourist type things. Obviously, I always search for movie theaters with my Edge units.

Garmin-Edge-1030-Plus-POI-Search

I almost never use POI search, it’s not that it doesn’t work (it does). It’s just that my phone and Google Maps is simply so much better at that than Garmin’s unit – especially for handling things like whether or not a café is even open, or if the coffee is actually any good. Nobody wants a bad café mid-ride. And this is where I wish there was better one-off integration between the Garmin Connect Mobile app and the Edge 1030 Plus mid-ride. For example, on a Wahoo ELEMNT/ROAM/BOLT I can quickly do a one-off route to a given spot in a few seconds and off I go with the Wahoo. That’s simply not viable nor quick on the Edge series. In Garmin’s line of thinking, you do that one-off routing on-device. But I’m not sure that’s what people actually want in 2020.

Wahoo-ROAM-One-Off-Routing

Moving along, given this section is about navigating, it seems fitting to end on the new LiveTracking with course display feature. Mind you, LiveTracking is certainly not new to Garmin devices. It’s been around nearly a decade – and ignored nearly as long. But last year they started refocusing on behind the scenes platform aspects around reliability and stability, and this appears to be some of the culmination of some of that. Specifically, with today’s announcement two things happen:

– The LiveTracking platform gets a user interface refresh from 2010 to 2020
– LiveTracking now will display your planned course that you loaded on your Garmin

The first one will start being shown to everyone, given it’s a backend piece. While the second one will be rolled out to certain devices – notably the Edge 530, Edge 830, Edge 130 Plus, and Edge 1030 Plus. I don’t know about plans for any other devices/wearables (though Garmin says they have plans there, but haven’t finalized them yet).

From a user standpoint, you’ll enable LiveTracking as normal in the smartphone app. Remember, LiveTracking uses your phone to transmit your position to friends and family. The Edge doesn’t have any cellular connectivity/SIM card itself, so it needs that phone connection to access the interwebs. You can specify which e-mail addresses (or Twitter accounts) to send tracking details to.

2020-06-15 12.50.19 2020-06-15 12.50.25

Also, you can toggle the ability to automatically do this every time, as well as to use Strava Beacon (which can send text messages). Also, you can enable the option to extend how long the link lives, up to 24hrs. This is handy because otherwise once you end your workout, the link dies(which would be confusing to someone). So this way they know you’ve completed the activity.

I’ve got mine configured to simply send a live tracking link every time I ride. As long as Garmin Connect Mobile (the phone app) is running somewhere in the background on your phone it usually works. You’ll get confirmation at the top of the device that LiveTracking is functioning:

Garmin-Edge-1030-Plus-DataFields

Also, on your phone, you’ll get a message that the LiveTrack has successfully initiated.

2020-06-15 12.52.39

Meanwhile, your peeps get the following e-mail:

image

They can click on the link and that brings them here. In the below screenshot you can see I went specifically off-course (which is purple), where my blue line was off in the forest.

vlcsnap-2020-06-15-22h38m42s526

This page shows your current position, updated every 30 seconds, and then additional metrics on the side – including Speed, Elevation, Heart Rate, Power, and Cadence (if you have those sensors). They’ll also see splits.

vlcsnap-2020-06-15-22h38m22s122

Now, my experience with the route showing bit has been good – that’s worked. And again, it’s cool to see the off-course pieces show up on the live tracking link:

image

However, I’ve had numerous troubles with the actual underlying LiveTracking connection and my phone (it simply transmitting my position, and/or drops the connection to the Edge). Garmin has been extensively troubleshooting them with more logging than an astronaut. For whatever reason, over the years I’ve always had a really rough time with stability and Garmin LiveTrack. And up until today’s ride, that theme had continued.

On today’s ride though, using some updated software and a few other tweaks, I was able to get through the entire ride without a failure. I’ll keep trying over the next month or so and report back on whether that trend continues.

Finally, for lack of anywhere else to stick it – note that the Edge 1030 Plus supports the Garmin external battery pack if you plan to go more than 24-48 hours. Sure, you can simply use a micro-USB cable and a USB battery pack just fine (really, it works just fine) to provide constant power. The only catch with that is if it rains. But if you’re riding in sun – go forth!

Still, if you want a clean/integrated option, there’s the external battery pack that locks into the bottom of the unit with a Garmin mount:

Garmin-Edge-Baterry-Pack

The battery pack itself charges via micro-USB, like most battery packs out there today.  It has a 3,300mAh capacity, so it’s on the lower end of USB battery packs its size.  Though, it’s also designed to be waterproof (IPX7, so up to 1m for up to 30 mins) and snap onto the front of a bike computer at speed.  Obviously, there are tradeoffs here compared to a simple USB lipstick charger.

Garmin-Edge-BatteryPack-Ports

The unit has battery status indicators on the edge of it, allowing you to see current battery status.  Unfortunately there isn’t anything clever like Apple’s own iPhone case where it shows battery status of the battery within the Edge unit, though that’d be cool.

Garmin-Edge-BatteryPack-LED-StautsLights

On the bottom of the unit, near the micro-USB charging port, you’ll also find a regular USB charging port so you can charge your phone or other device.

As a pro tip, I take along this simple and cheap charging cable with me if I’m headed out for a long ride.  It allows me to charge my phone via it (has Micro-USB, USB-C, Apple Lightning, mini-USB connectors), and I can even plug the battery pack into a USB port at a café or such.  It’s like my most favorite $8 cable ever.

DSC_0939

Finally, this whole thing locks in place using a locking system on the out-front mount that you swap out. Hell, they even have a TT-compatible mount these days for it, in case you wanted to do a 48hr time-trial bike ride:

Garmin-Edge-1030-Plus-Battery-Pack Garmin-Edge-1030-Battery-Pack-TT-Mount

The thing is pretty stable though, so I don’t expect any issues.  Nor have I had any issues in terms of cobbles or the like. It’s a rock-solid locking system, very similar to that of the Garmin UT-800 lights.

From a battery standpoint, the built-in battery on the Edge 1030 Plus has the following specs:

image

Note that Garmin says the number of vehicles that pass you can have an impact if using radar, as can the complexity of the course.

In looking at some of my rides, I’d roughly fall under the ‘High’ configuration (usually 3-4 sensors, with mapping), and taking a look at a random nearly 82-minute long ride (doing a structured workout atop mapping), I burned 6% of battery (from 94% to 87%). Also, in this case, the backlight was on HIGH (not auto), because I was also taking photos/video. As such, that’ll burn more battery than anything. In any case, that gives me a 5.12%/hour battery burn rate, or essentially 19 hours worth. But again, the backlight set for ‘HIGH’ is really what brought it down.

image

So, for another ride, I set the backlight on auto (on a sunny day), again, with navigation and four sensors. Here’s what that looked like – 3.16%/hour, or basically 31 hours worth.

image

Ultimately, battery fun aside, from a navigational standpoint the minor tweaks to the Edge 1030 Plus are appreciated. And from a functionality standpoint I didn’t have any errors on the navigational front during my rides (LiveTrack is different however, as noted). But more broadly than navigation is the map inclusions/loading piece. That’s huge if you travel a lot (as I do, well, did till this year anyway). That makes your life so much easier than dealing with loading 3rd party maps that don’t have all the heatmap cycling-specific data you want them to.

Structured Training:

Garmin-Edge1030Plus-Training

The Edge 1030 Plus takes a quiet, but important, step forward in terms of Garmin making training recommendations for any given day. In fact, it’s the first Garmin unit to specifically recommend a workout/duration based on your day to day training load. This essentially follows what Polar did with the Polar Ignite a year ago, except, focused on cycling.

Anytime you power on the Edge 1030 Plus it’ll quickly and quietly go and grab your latest training load data from Garmin Connect behind the scenes. It’s doing this to ensure that if you did other workouts (like a run) on a Garmin product such as a Fenix or Forerunner watch, that it’s aware of that training load. It doesn’t want to give you a hard workout if you ran 20 miles yesterday. You’ll see this at the top of the screen, where it says ‘Downloading’. If you’re at home, it’ll do this via WiFi in most cases.

A few seconds later, once it’s done, you’ll get a workout of the day recommendation (officially called the ‘Daily Suggested Workout’), that you see in the photo above. When you tap ‘Review Workout’, you’ll get more details on it:

Garmin-Edge-1030-Plus-SuggestedWorkout

And then more details yet again n the specific steps, in this case a pretty…simplistic…workout:

Garmin-Edge-1030-Plus-DailySuggestedWorkout-Details

Now, if you’re part of a specific training plan, such as one from TrainerRoad, then those will take precedence. However, as of today, it’ll still give me a recommendation ignoring that plan. I’m told that’ll change in the next firmware update very shortly to account for the known training plan. Also, it doesn’t seem to be pulling down anything more than just today’s TrainerRoad workout (it should at least also be pulling down tomorrow’s).

The daily suggested workout engine leverages the Training Status, Training Load Balance, and daily tracked VO2 Max data. However, in order for it to work it needs both heart rate and power meter data. Otherwise it doesn’t really know how much training load you’re actually getting.

You’ll see your training load after every ride, as well as in the dashboard menu under ‘My Stats’. You’ll first see this dashboard on your training status, which at the moment thinks I’m “unproductively” managing my training due to the higher load versus recovery. Normally I’d say ‘FU Garmin’, but honestly in this specific week it’s right.

Garmin-Edge-1030Plus-Unproductive

If you tap on that ‘Unproductive’ banner, you’ll see your VO2Max stats, Training Load, and Load Focus. The Training Load page shows how much load you’ve had over the last 7 days, and the color-coding designates the load focus area. You can see yesterday (Sunday) I basically took the day off, with only a tiny little bit of easy pedaling with my kids. At the time I took this first photo, I hadn’t done my Monday ride yet.

Garmin-Edge-1030-Plus-Unproductive

If I look at the Load Focus, you’ll see it’s overwhelmingly way too much ‘High Aerobic’. Now, I’d generally disagree with Garmin/FirstBeat here on the distribution. I find in general it’s far too conservative for me on high aerobic balance. Yes, this week is definitely out of whack, but it’s almost unheard of for me to see the ‘High Aerobic’ in the right zone (the dotted lines).

Garmin-Edge1030Plus-Load-Focus

However, about an hour after taking the above photos, I went out for a 90-minute ride. Nothing too hard, just base mileage cruising around. That ride apparently gave me redemption. Somewhat ironic if you ask me.

Garmin-Edge-1030Plus-TrainingStatus Garmin-Edge-1030-Plus-Training-Status-Load

Seems a bit peculiar that it’s complaining about my load being too high one second, and then the next it’s OK with it. Though there also may be an element of timing here in that if my previous Monday ride (a bit harder) was higher and then ‘fell off’ the exact 7-day rolling window, replaced by this less challenging ride.

And then there’s your VO2 Max scores. This too requires a power meter. Keep in mind though that VO2 Max won’t shift much, but it’s also typically dependent on having hard VO2 Max workouts to trigger newer values.

Garmin-Edge-1030-Plus-VO2Max-Score

If I go back to the main ‘Stats’ dashboard after this ride you’ll see my Recovery Hours remaining – 22 hours (about right), and then my current estimated FTP at 285w. Currently, my latest FTP test about three weeks ago with TrainerRoad put me at 299w, but I didn’t use this device for that test. So it’s had to make its calculations on other workouts. I suspect we’d see them very close after my next test.

Garmin-Edge-1030Plus-TrainingStatus DSC_5977

You can dive into things like your power curve (Mean-Max power) over different time frames:

Garmin-Edge-1030Plus-MeanMaxLoad

Or double-check your profile like age and weight. If you have a Garmin Index scale it’ll automatically update the weight for you.

It’s worth noting that you can connect your Zwift or TrainerRoad accounts to Garmin Connect and receive workouts into your Garmin account completed on Zwift/TrainerRoad. However, and this is a HUGE however, you WILL NOT get any training load credit on any of the above screens for those workouts. Nor on any other Garmin device. Frankly, this is stupid, frustrating, and infuriating. All it does is make you double-record things and then delete workouts. Why bother making an integration that just fires blanks?

Now, that said, if you do a TrainerRoad workout on your unit, then it’ll compute it. However, you’ll then lose out on all the descriptive text you’d get on the TrainerRoad app for inside workouts. I’ve got a separate post coming on that (probably), but we can touch on it briefly in terms of how structured workouts work on the Edge 1030 Plus. In fact, I’ve done a number of TrainerRoad Outside workouts on the Edge 1030 Plus in recent weeks, and those have worked well. And, since these work identically to other structured workouts you might create yourself or push from apps like TrainingPeaks, FinalSurge, or Today’s Plan, then I can show them all in one boat.

To begin, the Edge will display/suggest a workout pushed to it that’s on your calendar for that day. For example, this one:

Garmin-Edge-1030Plus-TrainerRoad-Workout

Upon selecting it (or any other in your training library), you’ll see the exact steps listed out. Depending on how the workout is created, it’ll either automatically advance through each step, or some steps might wait for you. For example, on most of my TrainerRoad outside workouts it’ll actually wait for you to press the ‘lap’ button before advancing from a rest segment to a work interval – in case you’re contending with traffic lights or such.

Garmin-Edge-1030-Plus-Workout-Details

Once you’ve begun your workout it’ll show you steps as they approach, and then list the current step targets. You can customize these fields however you’d want:

vlcsnap-2020-06-15-23h29m41s117

Rinse and repeat until the end of your workout. The most challenging part of doing a structured workout with specific power zones outside won’t be the technology, it’ll likely be your ability to pace power with rolling terrain to exacting targets. TrainerRoad actually has some good suggestions on how to set up your data fields to best tackle these workouts at the bottom of this page, and their suggestions apply no matter whether you’re using TrainerRoad or some other platform.

vlcsnap-2020-06-15-23h29m29s517

When it comes to structured workout execution, Garmin’s main competitors on the cycling-specific side here are Stages and Wahoo, with Hammerhead also adding in structured workouts recently to their Karoo. Again, I’ll dive into the nuances of those later on. It’s really a game of details and tiny differences between them all.

However, none of them have training load or similar concepts (at all). My (major) annoyances with lack of Zwift or TrainerRoad app load counting in the Garmin realm aside, there’s simply nothing on the market that has the depth and integration that Garmin does when it comes to cycling and training load tracking. Now, that doesn’t mean Garmin’s features (largely driven via Firstbeat’s algorithms) are always right. Nor that you’ll even use them.

But, if you want them – and if you don’t want to pay another company/platform/coach for them, then they’re there for the taking.

GPS Accuracy:

Garmin-Edge-1030Plus-GPS-Accuracy

There’s likely no topic that stirs as much discussion and passion as GPS accuracy.  A watch could fall apart and give you dire electrical shocks while doing so, but if it shows you on the wrong side of the road?  Oh hell no, bring on the fury of the internet!

GPS accuracy can be looked at in a number of different ways, but I prefer to look at it using a number of devices in real-world scenarios across a vast number of activities.  I use 2-6 other devices at once, trying to get a clear picture of how a given set of devices handles conditions on a certain day.  Conditions include everything from tree/building cover to weather.

Over the years I’ve continued to tweak my GPS testing methodology.  For example, I try to not place two units next to each other on my wrists, as that can impact signal. In the case of GPS bike computers, I put multiple units on my handlebars, though quite well separated (such as one on an out-front mount, another on the stem, and others to the side of the handlebars).

Next, as noted, I use just my daily training routes.  Using a single route over and over again isn’t really indicative of real-world conditions, it’s just indicative of one route.  The workouts you see here are just my normal daily rides/workout. At least as much as is possible in this COVID-19 world without being able to travel far, I’ve varied my workouts and terrain (cities/buildings, trees, quiet roads, bridges, etc…). But, given I live in a pretty flat place (Amsterdam), it means there’s very little high-altitude mountain type testing right now. Maybe later this summer. Sorry!

(Now, I’ll give you a spoiler since you made it thus far: By and large it’s pretty rare to see GPS screw-ups on road-cycling routes. And frankly, that continues here. This section is super boring because nothing ‘exciting’ happened.)

First up for a test ride is just from yesterday on a very diverse route where I was basically trying to break navigation. In this case there were some forested sections, lots of tree-lined sections, some farm roads, and some buildings/underpasses here and there. It’s comparing the Edge 1030 Plus, Edge 130 Plus, Wahoo ROAM, and a Fenix 6 Pro on my wrist. Here’s those data files:

image

While my path looks drunk, I mostly wasn’t. I was just following canals/rivers and see how many wrong turns I could make before I really upset the navigation of the unit. Turns out, I couldn’t. On the GPS-side though, we’ll start off with the beginning forested area, and you can see all the units are super close:

image

It continues this way, so close together that you can barely tell there’s multiple lines there. Even on the swerving sections along the river, no divergence:

image

Interestingly however, a bit later I did see some divergence, specifically from the Edge 130 Plus. It went askew for about 300 meters long, slightly offset perhaps 30 meters or so. You can see the Wahoo ROAM barely snuck its head out as well. So whatever was going on with that section of tree-lined roadway, seemed to impact both – though not the others.

image

Later on as I pass some tall apartment buildings for a block or two there’s a slight bit more divergence from the different units, but we’re talking a handful of meters. When the tracks look so perfect on the rest of the ride, even the tiniest bit difference is noticed:

image

Later on in the ride we see a bit more of that slight divergence from the Edge 130 Plus, but the 1030 Plus and others remain near lock-step. The Wahoo ROAM did cut some corners though as you can see:

image

Here’s another example of a ROAM cut corner. Well, I guess this is technically an overshoot followed by an undershoot. It’s Mario Karting.

image

OK, let’s move along to another one, this time making it a bit more complex. Sure, the overall geographic spread is smaller here, but it’s because I’m doing repeated laps over and over and over at a local cycling track/loop. As such, that’ll make things much more difficult to see if it can maintain lap after lap on the exact same track. Here’s that data set:

image

To begin, I start-out going under a gigantic 6 or 60 lane highway/train tunnel thing. Like, all the lanes. Either way, there’s no issues here from anyone here. There’s technically a gap half-way through those lanes where the units can see the sky. So we see a little blip there, but nothing more than a couple meters worth.

image

Next, cruising through/along a forest to get to the track. Everything is spot-on here too:

image

So, let’s get right to the good stuff: The Track.

I’m going to split it in two pieces, the upper half and the lower half. Now, looking at the upper half it’s a bit hard to tell what’s going on, because the Casio unit is a bit wobbly.

image

So, let’s get rid of that. Here we go:

image

Now you can see all the units are very close to each other. What’s interesting though is each unit tends to have a slight preference in certain parts of the track where it might meander in/out towards a given section. For example, on the upper straight-away the Fenix 6 Pro seems to favor the southern side. Whereas the Edge 830 favors the northern side. Meanwhile, on that upper left corner turn, the Edge 130 Plus seems to favor the inside while the Edge 1030 Plus seems to hang out more middle of the road.

Here’s the mid of the track:

image

And here’s the lower half of the track:

image

Realistically, any of these GPS tracks are fine. I’d say there’s a bit more variability overall from the wrist-based Fenix 6, but for the GPS bike computers they’re all virtually identical, and when the Strava Live Segments were triggering on each loop, they were doing so almost all in concert.

So, overall that ride looks pretty good.

Let’s take a look at one last ride, this time a big ol’ loop starting in the city, and then heading out to the countryside, before looping back to reality again Here’s that data set:

image

For this route I decided to make things as difficult as I could, at least initially. So, I went down a street next to plenty of tall buildings. So far, pretty good. Not perfect, but about norm for GPS next to tall buildings:

image

And then, by pure dumb luck I made a right turn off-course instead of a left turn. This meant I went through a bicycle underpass that curves (kinda like a ‘J’) rather than just going over the street. Turns out, none of the GPS units were happy with that:

image

Everybody crapped the bed here. Now to be fair, there’s four massive tall buildings, including one I then go through after coming out of the tunnel. I could see why all the units were displeased at this juncture.

image

That said, within just a few meters of getting out of the buildings, all but the Edge 530 returned to the bike path immediately (a couple of seconds). The Edge 530 took a few hundred more meters before it trusted my navigational skills again. I can understand the hesitancy there.

At this point, things basically get boring again from a GPS standpoint:

image

A handful of minor quibbles here and there when passing under bridges, but nothing of significance:

image

For the most part, all the units were stuck on each other. Sometimes, like below when I passed under high tension wires, you see slight differences, but nothing much.

image

Mostly, it’s just boring and looks like this:

image

And that’s the overall gist of things with GPS on both the new Edge 1030 Plus and Edge 130 Plus: Boringly accurate.

For all these tests I used GPS+GLONASS, and all of them were mounted on the handlebars or an out-front mount depending on the day (or sometimes my top-tube near the stem). I didn’t see any difference in GPS accuracy between those different positions.

As I stated earlier, it’s super rare to have meaningful GPS accuracy issues for road cycling. You tend to get a bit more mountain-biking in the actual mountains (which I lack). I took my road bike off-road here on trails, and didn’t see any issues there. In fact, it’s how I did the recent Strava Local Legends post, using the Edge 1030 Plus on my handlebars as I completed 26 laps of that Strava Segment. Zero issues, and super dependable on each lap of it.

(Note: All of the charts in these accuracy portions were created using the DCR Analyzer tool.  It allows you to compare power meters/trainers, heart rate, cadence, speed/pace, GPS tracks and plenty more. You can use it as well for your own gadget comparisons, more details here.)

Summary:

Garmin-Edge-1030-Review-Summary

At the end of the day, the Edge 1030 Plus is essentially the bike computer you buy when someone asks ‘What’s the best GPS bike computer no matter the cost?’. There’s very few people out there that would argue that line of thinking. There’s no bike computer out there that approaches anything near the number of features the Edge 1030 Plus has. Not even close. And more importantly, whether you’re talking the original Edge 1030 or new Edge 1030 Plus – it just works, really well for the most part.

However, the question you probably need to ask yourself is: Do I need all these features? And, are they executed the best out there?

And the answer to that is more complex. A variant of ‘It depends’.

When it comes to things like mapping or navigation, I’m pretty sure most would agree Garmin wins that depth easily. However, when it comes to ease of use or setup, most people would argue Wahoo is simpler. Though Garmin is clearly making strides here, as we see with the new setup process – yet it still lacks phone data field/page configuration. And for Garmin it’s a tough balance of giving people the hundreds of features they’ve had on their past Edge units for the last 13 years (seriously), versus going with a far more reduced feature set that you’d find on competitor units. I can’t tell you (or them) what that balance is, or whether or not you’d even use those added features.

Whether it be a Garmin Edge series or a Wahoo ELEMENT ROAM, both will happily download those Strava or Komoot routes, pair to your sensors, show your standard data, and get you to your destination pretty much the same. It’s the added features which differentiate the Edge 1030 series, such as all the on-device routing features, the heatmap-driven data for when you go freestyling, or the extensive training load/focus type functionality. None of that exists elsewhere.

As for comparing it to the Edge 530 or Edge 830? Frankly, it’s mostly screen-size driven (and the free added maps now). If you boil it all down, for the most part the Edge 1030 Plus is giving you a bigger screen with global maps. And some minor other features. I’ve used the Edge 530 & Edge 830 as my daily-driver bike computers for over a year now. I’m perfectly happy with them. Will I use the Edge 1030 Plus going forward? Maybe? I don’t know. My answer is usually driven by whatever unit is actually charged up and closest to my handlebars when I head out the door.

But if it ends up being the Edge 1030 Plus – I’m pretty happy with what I’ve seen in my testing thus far with it.

Found this review useful? Or just want a good deal? Here’s how:

Hopefully you found this review useful. At the end of the day, I’m an athlete just like you looking for the most detail possible on a new purchase – so my review is written from the standpoint of how I used the device. The reviews generally take a lot of hours to put together, so it’s a fair bit of work (and labor of love). As you probably noticed by looking below, I also take time to answer all the questions posted in the comments – and there’s quite a bit of detail in there as well.

I’ve partnered with Clever Training to offer all DC Rainmaker readers exclusive benefits on all products purchased.  By joining the Clever Training VIP Program, you will earn 10% points on this item and 10% off (instantly) on thousands of other fitness products and accessories.  Points can be used on your very next purchase at Clever Training for anything site-wide.  You can read more about the details here.  By joining, you not only support the site (and all the work I do here) – but you also get to enjoy the significant partnership benefits that are just for DC Rainmaker readers.  And, since this item is more than $99, you get free 3-day (or less) US shipping as well.

Garmin Edge 1030 Plus (select drop-down for bundles)

For European/Australian/New Zealand readers, you can also pick up the unit via Wiggle at the links below, which helps support the site too!

Garmin Edge 1030 Plus (EU/UK/AU/NZ – Wiggle)
Garmin Edge 1030 Plus Bundle (EU/UK/AU/NZ – Wiggle)

And finally, here’s a handy list of some of my favorite Garmin-specific accessories for the Garmin bike computers. Of course, being ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart compatible, you don’t have to limit things to just Garmin.

ProductAmazon LinkNote
Barfly 4 Prime Out-Front Aluminum MountI love out-front mounts. Both Barfly and K-Edge make good ones. I primarily use the aluminum ones though, because this mount comes with a GoPro (and light/Di2) adapter on the bottom. So I can mount a GoPro up front and have the footage be rock solid.
Garmin Cadence Sensor V2This is a dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart cycling cadence sensor that you strap to your crank arm, but also does dual Bluetooth Smart, so you can pair it both to Zwift and another Bluetooth Smart app at once if you want.
Garmin HRM-DUAL Chest StrapThis is one of the top two straps I use daily for accuracy comparisons (the other being the Polar H9/H10). It's dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart, and in fact dual-Bluetooth Smart too, in case you need multiple connectons.
Garmin Speed Sensor V2This speed sensor is unique in that it can record offline (sans-watch), making it perfect for a commuter bike quietly recording your rides. But it's also a standard ANT+/BLE sensor that pairs to your device. It's become my go-to speed sensor.
Garmin Varia Radar (RTL515)The Varia radar has become incredibly popular in the last year, with most bike GPS companies supporting it (Wahoo, Stages, Hammerhead, Garmin, and more soon). It notifies you of overtaking traffic. While useless for cities, it's amazing for quieter country roads.

Or, anything else you pick up on Amazon helps support the site as well (socks, laundry detergent, cowbells). If you’re outside the US, I’ve got links to all of the major individual country Amazon stores on the sidebar towards the top.

Thanks for reading! And as always, feel free to post comments or questions in the comments section below, I’ll be happy to try and answer them as quickly as possible.

Post a Comment

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked.
If you would like a profile picture, simply register at Gravatar, which works here on DCR and across the web.

You can click here to Subscribe without commenting

Add a picture

*

361 Comments

  1. Mindz

    I am not buying any new Garmin products before they switch to USB-C

  2. Chris Holton

    Micro USB is pretty much a deal breaker for any new device coming out these days.Might seem minor now but will become increasingly annoying.

  3. Blaz

    I stopped reading at micro-USB…

  4. Pavel Vishnyakov

    Configuration transfer is a very welcome improvement.
    I do not own an Edge unit but I can imagine that it’s a pain to reconfigure newer unit the same way as your previous one.
    The fact that the fields can still only be configured from a unit and not via phone / website is very upsetting, but I guess it’s just the fact of life.
    Buttons are a bit weirdly poositioned. I get that they have been there for eternity, but looking at the pictures I see that they are very close to the handlebars – is it even convenient to use them there?
    What I’m curious about is GPS accuracy. I started to notice that on my bike computer (ELEMNT) when I go under the trees it undercuts the speed. Is it also the case / not the case here?

  5. Toby

    Thanks for another great detailed review Ray,

    I am excited that Garmin has finally begun to think about using smartphones as viable interfaces to allow profile transfers. Whilst from what you describe it is still a long way from Wahoo who I consider to have the gold standard here, it’s nice that Garmin are at least considering this now.

    It would be interesting to see if they bring this 1030 Plus feature to the other newer Edge devices (and preferably to all Edge devices).

  6. Volker

    Great review. I like the offer of maps for other continents. Is it only for the new 1030+ or will we see it on other devices, too (for ex. wearables- they are higher priced as the 1030+)?

  7. Jamie

    Hi Ray, great review. Do you know if Garmin will offer the global maps for 830 users?

  8. Matthew B.

    Ray – do you expect the settings (profile) transfers to also happen on Garmin watches going forward? I feel like that would be a HUGE win.

    • While Garmin hasn’t confirmed it, I fully expect that to be the case. Obviously, it’s slightly trickier with watches because of all the sport profiles, though not substantially so given it’s all standardized.

  9. Derek Chan

    Global maps seems to lack maps for Asia?

  10. Macan

    No maps of Asia for North American models?

  11. chup

    Can your unit display Asian characters like Chinese or Japanese?

  12. Tommy

    Hi Ray,

    I can see one mention of processor power on the route calculation section of the review. To be clear, is this now the same processor as the 830?

    I am an 830 owner, but would much rather the larger screen of the 1030. Just the speed as put me off.

    That said i would have upgraded in a heart beat if they had implemented USB-C. I think i will wait for the next gen now!

    • It’s supposedly a faster processor than the 830 actually. They’re saying that I should see speed “consistently faster” than the Edge 830 for most route calculations. I haven’t done side by side route calcs with the Edge 830, but have with the Edge 1030 (you can see some non-route calcs in the video, more just general usability speed).

    • usr

      Faster routing could also be the same processor paired with faster flash storage, or even the same processor just configured to be more liberal with battery consumption.

      But it doesn’t matter to me, those sweet new rerouting options are much more than I expected, I’ve been waiting for exactly that improvement for more than half a decade now.

      (and what’s the fuss with USB-C? Sure, I would have preferred that as well but only for convenience. I don’t see a future where I’d be traveling without both charging cables any time soon, plenty of existing, high value bike gear on micro that I expect to outlive the 1030+)

    • Eli

      There are connect iq apps that benchmark the devices.

    • Dave Lusty

      Well…technically there are ConnectIQ apps that benchmark the runtime environment. ConnectIQ apps have zero direct access to the hardware so while they give an indication of relative performance, could be wildly misleading at the same time. Not having access to processor throttling info, multithreading, core speed etc. leaves you making a lot of assumptions that just don’t necessarily play out for the Garmin firmware which is running natively.

    • The reason I don’t tend to do CIQ benchmarks as part of reviews on launch day is super simplistic:

      A) The beta devices aren’t loaded into the production CIQ App store as compatible devices, so my only way to test them is if I reach-out to a given developer to get a PRG file (I believe within Garmin’s network they can do that, but I obviously don’t have access there).

      B) Also, given it’s usually beta software until the last week or so, I don’t really want to spend time benchmarking something that’s maybe not accurate.

      I would note that in general I’m just not hearing many people complain about CIQ app performance though. And as noted, the CIQ environment is sandboxed anyway, so it’s not indicative directly of the larger unit’s capabilites.

    • Jeff F

      This is fair enough Ray, it’s not a 100% reliable indicator of performance. The 1030 Tree Benchmark result dropped from 15,000 to 10,000 since it was released, presumably due to changes in the CiQ sandbox. Still though, what else do we have as a performance indicator? It’s difficult.

      Is there any way of finding out the hardware spec? Which soc for example? That would allow a better indicator of performance.

  13. Martin

    285W and 3,22W/kg means that you weight 88,5 kg :-O

    • gingerneil

      No, it means that his weight is set in the app/profile to 88.5kg
      (scarily close to my own #lockdown #injured weight!)

  14. Patrick

    Will the option to ‘Wave it around in the sky and hope it gets you somewhere’ be coming to the 530?

  15. Looks like it’s time to replace my Edge 1000 – the USB connector is getting wonky and the power button is a bit knackered (I know there are 3D-printed fixes for that). Also looks like there might be an opportunity here for some clever people to offer a USB-C mod, even though it would void warranty.

    • Johannes Winter

      You can buy and repair the whole back cover easily. Did it last summer, you find it at ebay including the battery, board with usb connector and the power button etc, which are all mounted to the back cover, and there is one sensor, I think for barometric pressure, because it looks to the down side – but it didnt really interested me at the moment. No big drama, you dont need to be an electronic engineer, just need this little torx screwdriver (thats mostly the biggest problem).
      For example:
      link to smitacn.com they recommend due to cov19 buying it without battery

    • Oh man, now you’ve ruined my justification in one fell swoop. Good job my missus doesn’t read DCR.

    • Bill Brannon

      Thanks for the Smita link. I just ordered the replacement base and battery for my aging 1000, $49 delivered in the US.

  16. Achim Später

    Is it possible, that the new user defined rerouting comes via update to older devices?

  17. Neil Jones

    Interesting that the announcement email I just received about the 1030 Plus and 130 Plus came from Tacx rather than Garmin. I wonder if Garmin are intending to shift some of the branding of their cycling products towards Tacx? The title of the email even refers to “our” newest Edge Bike Computers, even though the unit has GARMIN plastered on the front of it.

    • I would very much doubt that they are rebranding the Edge series. It wouldn’t make sense (and would cause even more confusion) to have one series of fitness products branded “Tacx” and the other “Garmin” – the Garmin name is just too well known. I speak from some experience albeit in a different industry sector – before I retired the company I worked for rebranded an established well-known line of products on the advice of a very expensive consultancy (for “market differentiation” reasons) and it was an unmitigated disaster.

  18. Bill Brannon

    Is it a USB 2 or 3 port? Without an uSD option, uploading maps over 2 would be painful.

    • Bill Brannon

      GArmin answered my question. Session started between Douglas and Bill
      Bill:
      Edge® 1030 Plus
      Bill:
      Is the USB connection 2.0 or 3.0?
      Douglas:
      I apologize. I am actually unsure of what version we use. I will transfer you to a specialist who can assist you.
      Douglas has exited the session.
      This chat conversation has been transferred to another associate. They will see your prior conversation.
      Session started between Andrew and Bill
      Andrew:
      Hello, Bill. It would be a 2.0 for your 1030.
      Bill:
      and the 1030 Plus?
      Andrew:
      I think they use the same 2.0 but let me double check.
      Bill:
      That’s a deal breaker for loading large map files.
      Andrew:
      Yeah, it looks like none of our devices uses the 3.0, just the 2.0.
      Bill:
      Thanks for the info
      Andrew:
      You’re welcome,

    • I did it the other day and just went to lunch. Honestly, I figure if you’re flying to a 3rd continent, then spending a bit of time loading the maps isn’t a huge deal per se. My preference would be for them to enable WiFi downloading though.

    • gingerneil

      And dont forget that you’ll be charging the device while the maps sync over – so you’re winning at the multi-tasking challenge. If you’re packing your bags while its doing that too, then proper kudos.

    • Jeff F

      USB 2 can do about 60MB/sec. The 1030 (not plus) flash manages 8MB/sec and the 830 about 20MB/sec so USB 2 is likely not a bottleneck anyway unless the 1030 plus is significantly faster.

      Ray, don’t suppose you could run crystaldiskmark and the CiQ benchmark against the 1030 plus?

      For ref heres the disk results from 830 and 1030, I don’t have the CiQ benchmark handy

      **** Edge 830 disk ****
      ——————————————————————————
      CrystalDiskMark 7.0.0 (C) 2007-2019 hiyohiyo
      Crystal Dew World: link to crystalmark.info
      ——————————————————————————
      * MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
      * KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

      [Read]
      Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 15.940 MB/s [ 15.2 IOPS]
      Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 15.519 MB/s [ 14.8 IOPS]
      Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 7.733 MB/s [ 1887.9 IOPS]
      Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 7.502 MB/s [ 1831.5 IOPS]

      [Write]
      Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 19.925 MB/s [ 19.0 IOPS]
      Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 19.924 MB/s [ 19.0 IOPS]
      Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 1.853 MB/s [ 452.4 IOPS]
      Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 1.360 MB/s [ 332.0 IOPS]

      Profile: Default
      Test: 16 MiB (x5) [Interval: 5 sec]
      Date: 2020/05/02 17:35:13
      OS: Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 18363] (x64)

      **** Edge 1030 disk ****
      ——————————————————————————
      CrystalDiskMark 7.0.0 (C) 2007-2019 hiyohiyo
      Crystal Dew World: link to crystalmark.info
      ——————————————————————————
      * MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
      * KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

      [Read]
      Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 3.775 MB/s [ 3.6 IOPS]
      Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 3.355 MB/s [ 3.2 IOPS]
      Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 2.933 MB/s [ 716.1 IOPS]
      Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 2.872 MB/s [ 701.2 IOPS]

      [Write]
      Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 6.711 MB/s [ 6.4 IOPS]
      Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 8.808 MB/s [ 8.4 IOPS]
      Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 1.039 MB/s [ 253.7 IOPS]
      Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 0.719 MB/s [ 175.5 IOPS]

      Profile: Default
      Test: 16 MiB (x5) [Interval: 5 sec]
      Date: 2020/05/02 17:46:23
      OS: Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 18363] (x64)

    • Tony

      For anyone interested, I ran CrystalDiskMark on my Edge 530:

      **** Edge 530 disk ****

      ——————————————————————————
      CrystalDiskMark 7.0.0 x64 (C) 2007-2019 hiyohiyo
      Crystal Dew World: link to crystalmark.info
      ——————————————————————————
      * MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
      * KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

      [Read]
      Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 16.954 MB/s [ 16.2 IOPS]
      Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 16.538 MB/s [ 15.8 IOPS]
      Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 6.096 MB/s [ 1488.3 IOPS]
      Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 5.634 MB/s [ 1375.5 IOPS]

      [Write]
      Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 21.597 MB/s [ 20.6 IOPS]
      Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 21.375 MB/s [ 20.4 IOPS]
      Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 0.858 MB/s [ 209.5 IOPS]
      Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 0.916 MB/s [ 223.6 IOPS]

      Profile: Default
      Test: 1 GiB (x5) [Interval: 5 sec]
      Date: 2020/06/16 12:44:55
      OS: Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 19645] (x64)
      Comment: Garmin Edge 530 firmware version 5.50

    • Eli

      Interesting. I wonder if the bottleneck is the usb interface or the storage system. (if the garmin writes to the drive through a different interface that is more direct)

      I assume by CiQ benchmark you mean one of the cpu benchmarks? Would be interesting if its the same as the 830 (guessing they put the 830 cpu into the 1030)

    • Jeff F

      I suspect it’s the flash that’s the bottleneck.

      On benchmarks they often have to be modified to show as compatible with a new device so can’t be run until then. There’s some confusion over whether it’s a new faster soc (Ray mentions Garmin said it’s faster), or the same 530/830 soc. which GPlama mentions and shows benchmarks for.

    • Slowmo

      Micro USB 3 has an additional 5 pins next to existing ones, so much wider connector. With type-c connector is the same for USB 2 and 3.

  19. Oskars

    You wrote “If I look at the Load Focus, you’ll see it’s overwhelmingly way too much ‘High Aerobic’. Now, I’d generally disagree with Garmin/FirstBeat here on the distribution.”
    But in the training summary views it seemed like you had default HR zones set up. Doesn’t the training load status get its data from time in HR zones?

  20. Dieter De Cooman

    Garmin site sells both 1030 and 1030 plus for same price.
    Why would you still buy 1030 ??? Color ?

    • Perhaps someone owns stock in a MicroSD card company and really wants to be able to support the share price?

    • Stephen Hemminger

      The Santana bike tours have a policy of only giving out route maps on sd cards for Garmin.
      They are going to have to change.

    • John

      @ Stephen Hemminger: Do they only give out routes on an SD card as way share routes? Or do they see it as a proprietary thing?

    • If they give out the actual maps, then that piece is no longer needed.

      If they’re talking about the route GPX/etc files, then honestly I think in 2020 that’s like being upset that your iPhone doesn’t take film. 🙂

    • Pavel Vishnyakov

      To be fair, with 32 Gb microSD card and 16 Gb internal memory you are getting more map storage in 1030 vs 1030 plus

  21. jww

    “Keep in mind though that VO2 Max won’t shift much, but it’s also typically dependent on having hard VO2 Max workouts to trigger newer values.”

    This was an extremely helpful mention for me. Learned somethin. Thanks.

  22. Edwin Aerts

    Hello Ray

    I have a Garmin Edge 1000 Touring and use (paid) Europe City Navigator for mapping and navigating, since there’s always a service car following our group of cyclists: so no towpaths along the canal for us. Any difference with the Edge 1030 Plus?

    Thanks and great review (again).

    Krgrds
    Edwin

  23. Adrian

    Disappointed they kept the buttons on the bottom of the unit where they are tricky to access when using an out-front mount.

  24. Mike

    Got to say I love the 830, hope the free maps come to the 830 as well, you said Live Track changes are coming…. another brilliant review Ray

  25. Steve

    I’m just here to join the chorus of people saying they will not buy a device with a micro usb port. Besides my current (and very old) Edge and my Kindle I’ve pretty much eliminated it from my life.

    As soon as there’s an Edge with USB-C I’ll buy it, but until then, I hope my old one keeps chugging along.

    • Robert B

      Kindle 10 and 8 now come with usb-c so their listening, what a pita it is to wait for it to charge my older model. But it still holds charge for 8 hours so can’t justify spending out on a new one just yet.

      Come on Garmin get with the times

  26. Robert B

    Hi Ray, great review even though I’m not a cyclist, still read every article.

    You say ” New daily on-device workout suggestions based on training load” do you know if such a feature will be trickling down to the F6? Just occasionally I feel lousy before a run and even worse afterwards, although a 10 second pulse check doesn’t reveal anything untoward. Could be snake oil or something useful to me.

  27. gingerneil

    As a runner, I firmly believe that cycling is just another form of cheating. I’m therefore not the target market for an Edge.
    However… I love my 945. I sincerely hope that Garmin are working towards app features that allow proper customisation of their devices. To *still* not be able to configure activity screens in the app is almost unforgivable.

    • Robert B

      I think it’s horses for courses. I hated my suunto ambit run 90% of the time because I needed the phone to do anything with the damn thing.

      But if your reading this Mr Garmin it sure wouldn’t hurt to have this feature, I’d only use it sparingly myself but that way everyone would be 100% happy.

    • Colin Campbell

      As a cyclist, I believe that runners are “cyclists in training”. When runners get injured, or get tired of repeatedly getting injured, many switch over to cycling, because it is a lower impact activity. I was a runner, but it was actually a knee (while playing basketball) injury that led to my “conversion”.

      Look forward to seeing you on your bike in the future, Ginger!

    • Dan G

      Colin: so true!

  28. Struan Lownie

    No wiggle link for the UK?

  29. Max

    Hi Ray, everything sounds good on the 1030 plus but I’m waiting for a major improvement for me: does it include an electronic compass like the oregon series? Doing Mountainbiking is a much needed feature for me to have. On trails intersections, when you don’t move or move too slow, the gps compass do not works. I’m forced to used that massive brick that’s the Oregom 700 until garmin puts an electronic compass on the edge series.

    • usr

      Compass would be a biggie. Lots of stores seem to list a magnetometer amongst the features, but I suspect that they confuse it with the sensors in the bundle version (unlike most other “hub-wart” style sensors the garmin ones are based on magnetometers, not accelerometers). The same confusion already exists for the 830, which according to Ray’s review table (end everything else I’ve heard) is still missing an electronic compass. I’d be very surprised if there are hardware differences like that between 830 and 1030+, other than the obvious screen, storage and battery.

    • Eli

      My 920 and 935 watch has an electronic compass so is pretty sad the edge doesn’t have this yet

    • usr

      I just did the secret superpower thing that I always forget about and checked the online manual PDF: the Edge 1030 Plus manual contains instructions for calibrating a magnetic compass. I’d say that’s as clear of a yes as it gets. Really surprised that Garmin didn’t use that to bolster the tiny list of improvements the Plus has over a vanilla 1030, I think that does it for me, ordering today.

    • Camillo

      That’s a very good catch, seems even the 830 has introduced it. There are mentions of it also in the Garmin forums

  30. Gordon

    So for training load, if you use the Garmin to record the workout whilst also doing the workout in trainerroad/sufferfest etc, then save the workout in TR/SUF but discard on the Garmin, does training load get updated? I usually save virtual workouts using SUF then export to Garmin connect, whilst simultaneously recording on my Garmin but discard on the Garmin once complete.

    • Nick

      I am interesting in finding this out as well.
      I do things in a similar way but I discard the activity on Zwift/Wattbike Hub and save it on my Garmin.

    • Heiko

      sessions on non-Garmin-devices won’t contribute to trainingload (full disclosure: I did not check within the last year if this behavior changed).
      If you enable sync (“Physio TrueUp”) then at least the session summary shows up (i.e. the Zwift Ride can be found in the history list of your Garmin.
      My suggestion is to use Trainingpeaks for accurate and source-independent trainingload metrics.

    • Nick

      Makes sense. I am, however, referring to two Garmin devices: 6X Pro Solar+ Edge 1030 Plus.

    • Dan G

      I do the same as Nick (without bothering to delete on Watthub). I really don’t see a problem with recording indoor workouts on the Garmin.

  31. Nick

    Looking pretty good! I certainly hope that Garmin have managed to fix the show-stopper of an issue called “lost satellites”

    I also wonder, whether Physio True Up will now include syncing Training Status/Load between two devices. I currently use my Fenix 6X Pro Solar to track everything from running to sessions on my Wattbike Atom. The big question here is whether I will be able to use the Edge 1030 Plus to not just show map guidance but also save activities that correctly carry over on to my daily driver the 6XPS.

    Any ideas Ray?

  32. Hi, looks like slowly Garmin is making improvements. Battery life looks impressive – and that without some impractical shenanigans like turning the screen off, I understand. Cool.
    Improvements on the Touchscreen – cool, and frankly so bitter needed.

    My question: how is the on board routing? Does it honor your prepared course?
    I read the respective section, that the route got synched from strava (in your case) and then the device start’s the routing calculation. In every Garmin I ever had (including for a brief period the first 1030) this was completely uselesss. As in: it would take the downloaded route/track/whatever (format didn’t matter) only as an informative offering but would butcher it into oblivion. Cutting corners, leaving out complete stretches etc.

    That’s bullshit in the best and leisurely times. That spells doom if you want to / have to follow the exact route. Because it’s a race with a mandatory course. Because you specifically planned to come across a certain section or don’t miss the start of a segment or because you wanted to just tag a very specific tile (Veloviewer MaxSquare) – i.e. all the reasons because you meticulously build a route at home until you satisfied or take the provided route of a race organizer.

    In former times the standard procedure was always: take Garmin out of box, switch course calculation off in the settings and never switch it on again. Routes were getting followed as track (with the detriment, that track lines can’t switched to a user defined color and width and are very hard to follow in the cluttered Garmin maps. Sometimes even more when the display switches to night mode). I would have loved to see such a wide and bright pink line also for the display of a normal track line with routing switched off.

    So – can one nowadays have routing switched on and nevertheless can be certain to stay on the original track (and not something the device thinks would be a neat diversion instead)?

    • Paul S.

      I have an Edge 830 and use navigation quite a bit more than I have with my older Edges (it’s necessary for ClimbPro). I’ve been using Strava routes for about a year; before that usually I planned routes in Garmin BaseCamp. The 830 hasn’t shown any of the behavior you’ve described. It sticks to the route as planned. I have a lot of trouble keeping Strava from routing me onto single track in the mountains or dangerous “bike paths” next to perfectly good roads in the valleys, but once the path is laid out, the 830 follows it. I haven’t had any of the problems I’ve had with Edges in the old days (mid-ride loops, out and backs, starting at the finish point, it all works now). I’m sure the 1030+ will be just as good.

    • andre

      @Torsten: My experience with my Edge explore is the different from yours. I would like it to be a little looser in following the exact route that I have downloaded to the device. Sometimes it it just not possible (road closed) or you prefer a slightly different route. I would like it to be a bit more like a car navigation, that very quickly understands that a corner earlier or later still brings you to your destination. Instead, it keeps on beeping “off-course” and flashing “make a U-turn” on the screen, almost religiously trying to get me back on track.

      I understand -sort of- that there is a difference between “waypoints” and “tracks” and that, if you download a route, it uses a “track” ? But I do see the “route calculation”, which is indeed odd if the route is already there.

      Anyway, I would welcome the option to choose how to handle the off-course situation during the ride. Which is not likely to happen soon since Garmin is not giving away features that they sell for a lot of money in the more expensive models.

    • John

      @ andre: The quick select rerouting option is shown as item #6 (5:45) in the video above 👆🏻. TBH, that will be the killer feature which will get me upgrade my 1030 to the 1030 Plus.

      @Torsten: I’ve not had problems on my 820 or 1030, where routes were significantly altered when the course was built in the Garmin course tool or the Strava routes or the RideWithGPS route planner, but I seen some really weird #%@! with TCX/GPX “breadcrumb“ files of unknown origin.

    • Yes, diverse planning services can lead to diverse user experiences and results. For what it’s worth I’ve long since abandoned Strava as a routeplanning tool. They overhauled it a bit recently. But before that it was on “alpha status” forever as we all know it. In its early days one could use it as a road biker. Nowadays, depending on how active other bike disciplines (MTB) are in your area, you only get rubbish results for either discipline. They have a new option now which may help in the future. But I digress.

      Once your route/course/track is ready planned with whatever service (even more so if it’s from one of the better known names in the game – RidewithGPS, Komoot, Strava etc.) the device shouldn’t mettle with it. Since you seem to know and experienced what I mean and nowadays doesn’t encounter it I take that as a good sign.

    • @ andre Hmm, ok. So each person certainly have their own preferences. Your reasoning might be if the main aim of your route is to bring you somewhat decent from A to B. That’s perfectly fine. I dare say that the vast majority of people who take the effort to build a route want to ride exactly that route. They want to follow _that_ trail and not some track or busy street which runs for a bit in somewhat the same direction but is heavily trafficed, has potholes, is way steeper (or less steep – depending what you are seeking). And that’s the whole point. You – or the provider of the route knows what they want. It’s just useless when your handlebar device isn’t capable of following that plan doesn’t even come close. Of course as I said – one can always switch routing in the device off. But alas then following the line is just harder to do as compared to a Wahoo Elemnt for example.

      And certainly: If you encounter a road block on your downloaded and preplanned route or just decide you want to go explore another place in the midst of it, then (and only then) having the option to instigate a reroute is very nice. But only with your approval and as an offer. Not as a surprise.

    • To me, the Edge 1030 Plus was the most fluid Edge I’ve had to date in terms of going freestyle while on a planned route. Like, I did it near constantly trying to break it. The three options it gave me (though, I wish it gave me more time to select them, it happens pretty quick if you don’t stop within 10 seconds), were all legit. And when I ignored it and just let it use its brain, it did so almost instantly and without any wonk.

      Granted, in the Netherlands it’s hard to have a bad cycling route. Inversely, it’s got so much trail data that it really struggles on initial route calculation at start of ride (but not during re-route).

  33. Tim

    Would be really nice if Garmin could incoporate a video camera into the front side one day. Looping as the Fly6, nothing special, just enough to catch those ‘incidents’. Oh, and a USB-C

  34. parker kerth

    Hi, Do you have any idea if they plan on releasing a new model of the 830?

  35. Tony

    Did you accidentally out the Edge 530 Plus in the GPS accuracy section or was that a typo?

  36. Dean Wette

    I’m setting a calendar notification for 18 months from now. That’s when the software for the 1030 Plus will just start becoming somewhat stable, sorta.

  37. Brandon

    thanks for the review! How is the glare on with the new screen? any issues with visibility in direct sunlight? i know that was an issue in the past and one of the reason i went with wahoo bolt. however, i’m not excited about the roam…

    • No issues with bright sunlight days. Somehow, that’s almost all we’ve had lately. Then again, I’ve never really had visibility issues with Garmin devices in the sun.

  38. Matej

    Do you know if quarter mount tab strength has been improved? On mine 1030 it was broken after 5k km (happened to me twice so far). Thanks.

    • I’m not aware of any changes, but then again, its exceptionally rare to break a mount tab. If that happens twice, I’d look at the mount or something else going on there. I’ve yet to break a single Garmin Edge mount despite running typically 3 units concurrently on virtually every ride I do. :-/

  39. Heinrich Hurtz

    Maybe I’m old fashioned, but I like pix that give a good impression of the size of the something. In many of your previous in-depths, you’d line up units side by side to show relative sizes from the front and edges. Yeah, actual dims are good, but good pix help. The wide angle foreshortened shots of the unit on the bars are not the best for this purpose. Other shots with nothing of commonly know size don’t help either. (I’d be good if a I had a Karoo lying around). Good old 3-views help too.

    • Yeah, I had it on my list to knock out, but just ran out of time. You’ll see the size comparison pics slid into the review over the next 24 hours. Though, given it’s identical to the Edge 1030 (case), you can look at that review or others until then.

  40. Greg Sheehan

    Is the InReach compatability not worth my curiosity? If you still have that Mini, do you plan to test it with the 1030 Plus?

    • Mark

      Since the InReach probably uses a ConnectIQ app, using it probably wouldn’t be much different from any other touchscreen Edge unit.

      Ray already called out InReach compatibility among all the other ANT+ and Bluetooth profiles.

    • Yeah, I’ve been meaning to circle back on that sometime and give it all a whirl.

  41. Jon

    You list this feature improvement: “Beeper/Chirper an eff-ton louder (and a bit different)”

    I have a Varia and have trouble hearing the alerts with my 1030. You don’t appear to include the alert settings changes in your review. This info would be helpful to hearing challenged people.

    • JD

      Watch #13 on the video. Sounds about twice as loud and no longer a high pitched chirp.
      Definitely an improvement but I’ll wait to hear 🙂 what Hammerhead does with the Karoo v2 before making any decisions.

    • Correct. Plus, the YouTube video is chaptered too, so it’s easy to skip to the 2nd to last chapter with almost any YouTube app/player.

  42. Neil Jones

    Any sign of selectable font size yet from a usability point angle? Something I’d never have even thought about till I hit my late 40s, but these days my short-distance vision isn’t what it used to be and any message that pops up on my 1030 just leaves me thinking ‘I wonder what that said, hope it was nothing important’.

  43. Horst

    Is round-trip routing the minimum distance of 10 km as before?
    A shorter distance – like the Forerunner 945 – would be interesting for short hikes.

  44. Scotty

    Inquiring minds want to know if you’ve been testing an Edge 530 Plus?

    • Dennis

      Yes, i’m interested in this as well. Will a new 530 plus come out in the next couple of months?

    • I’ve actually been testing the Edge 590 Pro Extreme. The Edge 530 Plus is old news, like Foursquare or MySpace.

      In all seriousness, the Edge 530 just came out a year ago, typically speaking Garmin doesn’t refresh a given cycling product line each year (the Fenix and sometimes Vivoactive series are really the only ones that do, and even that’s more of a 14-16 month cycle).

      There’s really no reason for Garmin to refresh the Edge 530 right now or anytime soon.

    • Tony

      Ray, the confusion is maybe coming from a typo you have in the GPS accuracy section, search for “530 Plus” in your review text.

    • Ahh, gotchya. Too many Plus’s on the brain today, but a 530 Plus is definitely not one of them. Thanks!

  45. Nate C

    I’ve been looking into upgrading my old 810, which I basically use as a data screen and backup recording device for my Fenix 6 pro and sadly all of the newish edge devices don’t have compatibility with the Garmin Tempe ant+ temperature sensors? Why would they take that away? I keep one in the shade under the saddle to get more accurate temperature readings during workouts (since the on-device reading is always 5-15 degrees high while baking in the sun).

    If I still have to record on my Fenix to record all of the sensors, guess it doesn’t make much sense to upgrade to the 1030 plus. And from the review it looks like it won’t pull over my activity profiles and data field configuration from the 810 either. Pros towards upgrading include connectIQ data fields, I guess.

    • Paul S.

      As the owner of two Tempe’s, it’s always annoyed me that Edge’s can’t connect to them. (But my VIRB 360 can, and my Fenix 5+ can.) I clip a Tempe on a bike when I’m using the 360, but my Edge 830 can’t use it, even though it’s always reading high in sunlight. (Does the 810 connect with the Tempe? My 800 couldn’t.)

    • klaus

      I think somebody could make an IQ-APP-Datafield for the Garmin Tempe ant+ Sensor. That Datafield could stare the ant+-Tempe as private in the fit file.

      Possible you should look in the Connect-IQ Programmer forum and ask about if someone will do the job.

  46. Todd

    I’ll ask but I don’t expect an answer because it never gets answered over the years: is the 100 segment limit for Strava live segments increased yet?

  47. Nathan Bishop

    Am I the only person that wan’t something without tonnes and tonnes of high level features but a “huge” screen?

    Currently using an Elemnt Bolt

    I would like a computer with the same functionality as that (or perhaps the Roam) but with a 3.5″ colour display. I don’t use any advanced routing features (the bolt doesn’t have any) but would like a larger screen

    This Garmin comes the closest but I’m not paying £520 when my phone cost a similar amount to that!

    • Gunnar

      The edge explore is only slightly smaller than the 1030. Great screen Great for navigation. Just missing Power data……

    • andre

      “The edge explore is only slightly smaller than the 1030. Great screen Great for navigation. Just missing Power data”

      Also missing are advanced training features and in-depth fitness stuff. It does record heartrate but that’s about it. No training advice, recovery status, fitness test, Vo2 max estimate. No virtual racepartner, no Strava live segments either.

    • Michi

      Have you actually tried the Roam? While the display with its 2.7 inches is smaller than the 3.5″ you’re aiming for its readability, particularly in sunlight and other unfavorable conditions, is simply unmatched. The pricing is an issue but its display is best in class in my opinion.

    • Nathan Bishop

      No live segments is a deal breaker for me, should have included that in my original list too! I don’t have a powermeter so don’t care about that. The advanced training metrics for recovery etc. are all missing from Wahoo so I wouldn’t miss those

    • Nathan Bishop

      The Roam is probably the best option for me, agreed. Based on the reviews here and elsewhere though it doesn’t seem well priced. I am hoping that the next device Wahoo produces moves the game on a bit more and is better value

    • Michi

      I agree – the Wahoo Roam should match the price of the Edge 530 to stay competitive. However to be fair Wahoo’s head units, and the Roam in particular, has qualities which are hard to reduce to a spec sheet or feature list. Its excellent readability is a good example – hard to appreciate without actually experiencing it.

      I’d also add that it has come a long way since DCR’s initial review and improved in certain areas like navigation (Strava turn by turn) or sensor compatibility (ANT+ radar support). This is exactly the reason why I’d love to see DC Rainmaker and other reviewers move towards on-going and occasionally updated reviews that take firmware updates and added features added into account. On-going software support, at least to me, is a major factor when it comes to making a buying decision after all.

    • I try and update where possible. That said, outside of radar support and fixing Strava (which I accounted for in my review), the ROAM has actually gotten basically nothing since launch. It’s a very un-Wahoo like concept to be honest.

      And unfortunately, it was the one Wahoo product (and still is in my opinion) that really needed more features and focus than any other. As you noted, it’s still horribly overpriced (ironic to use that after my last comment). I agree there’s elements, primarily of the setup, that are definitely better and cleaner. And also agree, it’s hard to put those on paper. But I think it tremendously struggles against the Edge 530 these days, primarily because of price. People are by and large pretty happy there.

      Inversely, I think something like the BOLT at $199 (where it is today) makes the Edge 130 Plus kinda silly. Unless you really really really want CLIMBPRO.

  48. Zac

    So the 830 has respiration rate, but the 1030 Plus doesn’t?

    • It does. One can actually see it in my screenshots from GCM.

    • Dan

      On Garmin Site I can see the following statement:

      “The following devices can display this information as a data field only and require the use of a Garmin HRM-Tri, HRM-Run, or HRM-Dual strap:
      Edge 530
      Edge 830
      Edge 1030 Plus”

      Maybe it’s useless but I like to have it, I’ve just bought a 1030 plus and I found this nice surprise in my activity data fields, this seems to be another little but significant improvement vs 1030, not described in the review. It works also with my Polar H10 HRM (even if Garmin site says An HRM-Tri, HRM-Run, or HRM-Dual strap is required, but it’s not true)

    • Yeah, basically it’ll work with most ANT+ straps from my testing.

  49. Brian

    Are you able to pause workouts while continuing to record your ride?

    It’s trivial, but as someone who trains outside with lots of intersections, this is the one single feature that keeps me on Wahoo. Not that I would switch, but I won’t even consider it without this feature.

  50. Robert J

    I will not buy any new Garmin until they have a USB-C port. I doubt anyone from Garmin is reading these comments, but in case this gets around to them, I hope they realize how much people care about this.

  51. Mark

    I don’t suppose anyone knows if the battery pack supports pass through charging? So that on a tour someone can charge the battery pack with a dynamo while riding and have the battery pack simultaneously charge the 1030 plus or a phone?

    • Mark

      Answering myself:
      According to Garmin-Shawn
      link to forums.garmin.com
      “it will charge itself and the power/charge the EDGE at the same time, but the external power charging the charge pack is not directly connected to the EDGE. But if an EDGE or other device is connected, the charge pack itself will recharge more slowly than if no external device was connected.” “In all cases the external power sources charge the charge pack, and the charge pack powers/charges the EDGE. External power sources connected to the charge pack do not directly power the EDGE.”

      So, as I read it, not really pass through, but better for this scenario. This way the Edge doesn’t see any dips in voltage depending on the speed one is riding at, at the cost (and inefficiency) of having to do two voltage level conversions: external supply step down to internal battery (3.6-4.2v), and internal battery step-up to 5v to the Edge.

    • I would trust Garmin Shawn on this one (mostly, because Shawn is super sharp and knowledgeable on the cycling side).

      But what he says matches my recollection when I looked at it way back when.

    • That was my thread 🙂

      As I recall, the power pack started beeping every time the current went up/down as I went faster/slower, it didn’t always resume charging or passing through power from the dyno automatically, I pushed the button a lot of times trying to make it do something, it got very confused and sometimes did or didn’t work, until it eventually became unresponsive and never worked again. Garmin sent me a new one, which I never tried. I replaced the power pack with a Goal Zero Venture and put my 1030 back on my stem.

  52. Dave Lusty

    Lol I got to “no USB-C here” and stopped reading. It’s 2020, there is zero chance I will buy a brand new device which has micro-USB, it is the worst of the USB connectors and I’ve seen way too many failures. It’s not even like this is a hard change, USB-C is pin compatible if all they were doing was changing the connector, but this also means no fast charge and continuing to own another cable for 3-5 years that I don’t need anywhere else.

    Sorry Garmin, hard no on this one.

  53. Nick

    Any news from Garmin on whether they ever intend to start keeping more than one Physio Trueup compatible device (Edge+Fenix/Forerunner) in sync?

    In my experience, things like Training Status/Load/Stress are calculated on a per device basis, rather than being aggregated in the back end.

    Any chance this has been fixed with the new Edge 1030 Plus?

    • Mark

      As I understand it, Garmin licenses those Firstbeats (?) algorithms depending on the device, and obviously the device’s price reflects those licensing costs.

      So you wouldn’t be able to get those metrics if the original recording device isn’t licensed for it.

      Now, if all your devices support a given metric, maybe that could be (already is?) combined in Garmin Connect. I don’t have enough devices to know if that’s already being done or not.

    • Nick

      See, the problem is that I am referring to devices that are capable of recording these metrics independently.

      The problem is that they aren’t aggregated in the back end, resulting in two different sets of data which defeats the whole purpose.

    • Gunnar

      Exactly. It’s why I do every ride, run, hike etc. with my forerunner 945. I tried to get my head around physio true up when I had a 935 and 1030 and on Garmin Connect it was only showing one devices data at a time? Why not have every workout (say with a 1030 and 945) combined and working in harmony. I just make sure that every exercise I do (including rides) are done with my 945. I’ve tried to use a less expensive head unit since it’s hard to justify two expensive units, but the 1030 is just so good…..light network, clear screen….love getting ALL smart notifications etc. etc.

    • Nick

      Yeah, sadly that seems to be the only solution. It’s also what I do with my Wattbike Atom and Fenix 6X Pro- I only save activities on the Garmin.

      No excuse for Garmin that zero training load/status data aggregation is done in the background..

    • Scotty

      It’s more FirstBeat than Garmin. The license follows the device and the calculations are done there with R-R data (HRV). Apps like Zwift don’t capture R-R data, and even if they did they don’t have FirstBeat licenses.

      Ideally I wish FirstBeat would allow you to apply your FirstBeat license to other apps like Zwift for the values, but then you’d need to convince those other apps to calculate it, which probably isn’t going to happen either.

      I don’t even know if it’s possible, but in an ideal world it would be awesome if Zwift could transmit the location and elevation data back to the Garmin watch via ANT+ in Indoor mode to have the complete file.

      For the time being I record on the Garmin and use my Zwift file, when I’m done I simply combine the two files and load them back up to GarminConnect. As long as you get the device and serial number right (the combining takes care of that) your training effect and status are updated perfectly.

    • Nick

      How do you go about combining the files?

    • Scotty

      Fit File Repair Tool is what I use, it does a great job. A bit slow, but pretty powerful.

    • Yeah, I’ve talked to FirstBeat about it at a high level in terms of capabilities. It doesn’t sound like this is a technology issues, or a licensing one.

      I think it’s a more substantial issue that Garmin wants to admit. It’s frustrating that they spend all the time on all these nuanced licensed features from Firstbeat, but it all falls apart because I want to leverage some of their partnerships.

      A great example is the trainer ride I just got off of. I was on a Tacx NEO 2 (a Garmin company product), controlled by TrainerRoad on an iPad. Sure, the Edge 130 Plus sitting there offered me the same workout, but then I wouldn’t have gotten all the text instructions. But no biggie, TR syncs the workout to Garmin, so all should be good?

      Nope. I had to record it on the Fenix 6 Pro (because it was on my wrist, obviously I could have recorded it on the Edge). And again, the Fenix 6 offered me the workout too. But again, I didn’t want to look at my wrist on a trainer.

    • Andrew M

      Gunnar,

      Garmin Connect only displays things on a per device basis.

      But if you look at the Training Status, Recovery Time, etc Last Sport widget on your 945, the data from your 1030 IS there, and displayed on an integrated basis.

      Just don’t ask me to figure out the logic of why it is integrated on the device, and not on GC.

    • Krzysztof

      So You are telling us that Garmin could calculate Training Load, Focus, etc for every ride uploaded to Garmin Connect, since there is no license problem here?

    • I’m saying that Firstbeat sees no technical or licensing limitations to doing so. Meaning, they may or may not charge Garmin a fee, but that’s not a limitation. Garmin licenses so many FirstBeat features that even if they were ultimately charged whatever crazy low rate they pay already, it’s relatively trivial. Ill give back some other feature to get that instead.

    • Neil Jones

      I’m another one who runs a 1030 effectively just for routing and data during a ride, but has everything recorded to a fenix, so I just delete the activity on the 1030 without even saving it once I know the fenix has synced to GC without any issues.

      Trouble is, the 1030 still seems to generate performance stats based on these rides (which are not going to be very accurate as it doesn’t know about my other activities, as my fenix does), and when I sync it to GC (which I have to do to transfer new routes onto it), it overwrites some of them. For example, My VO2Max is about 54. I’ll do 3 rides and my fenix will agree that it’s still 54 for each of them, so that’s what GC will show. However, days later I sync my 1030 and find my VO2Max is maybe now showing as 51, 49 and 50 for those 3 rides, even though I didn’t even save them on my 1030, just paused and discarded them, and my VO2Max will now show as 50 in GC.

      Until Trueup fully does what it should, I don’t actually want anything syncing back from my 1030 to GC. Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like there’s any practical way of preventing this and still be able to get routes on to the device.

    • Paul S.

      Which Fenix? You might be able to use the Extended Display mode on it, which just uses the 1030 as a larger screen. Ray did a review last year: link to dcrainmaker.com

    • Are you sure you have TrueUp enabled both ways, on both devices? While I do the same “discard on one device”, I never had VO₂ max overwritten like you say.

      With proper TrueUp, you should see your Fenix rides on the Edge, but you say “as it doesn’t know about my other activities” which implies the two-way sync doesn’t work (as opposed to one-way only).

    • Neil Jones

      Yeah but I need to be running an activity on the Edge itself for the mapping to work (and I don’t think EDM counts)

  54. Brian

    Correct. I want general ride recording to act normally in the background. But I want to manually pause just the workout, while the rest of the ride continues to record.

    Sometimes (never) the timing of my intervals and the best sections of road don’t line up.

  55. Eli

    Seems like their PR team should have been involved in their mapping. Asia doesn’t exist and Africa falls under Europe? That doesn’t sound bad at all……

    Also now that they are OSM based maps (so no licencing) will the other units be able to load map regions they didn’t come with? Seems like outside of artificial limits the other x30 units should be able to load regions, just won’t have the space for all of them at one time

    • chup

      I guess the 1030 Plus is still divided into different regions based on language / characters.

      SKU1: European / English characters (that is what “Global” really mean)
      SKU2: CJK characters (“Asia” version)

  56. Mark

    Everybody who’s complaining about the lack of USB C: would it be sufficient to have an adapter that’s plugged into the battery pack connector?

    Say, a semi-permanently adapter attached to the bottom of the bar mount? I don’t think that would make swapping between bikes any more difficult, you’d just have to have one adapter per bike. And that would mean just plugging the USB C cable to the underside of bar mount instead of the back of the Edge.

    Or are people mostly removing their Edge units from their bars for charging? So an adapter like that would be no less of an annoyance than a (non-USB consortium compliant) C-to-micro adapter, except that it could be integrated into a cradle that would be quicker to plug in.

    • Paul S.

      From what I understand, they’re worried about breakage. I’ve never broken one of either, but it’s supposed to be easier to break micro-USB than USB-C. So an adapter wouldn’t help; it’s the port itself that’s more robust.

    • Correct, it’s mostly about breakage for me. Sure, there’s speed/fast charging benefits, but honestly those are less interesting. Breakage is one, and better compatibility with chargers is the other. The only device I need a micro-USB cable for these days is really a Garmin Edge.

      On breakage, I just got back my Edge 1030 from Garmin support for a broken USB port. And I’ve previously broken my Edge 520 Plus and 820 units.

    • Mark

      But that’s my idea: have the adapter connected to the charging pins in the base. The pogo pin contacts in the base are pretty robust and won’t break. Then just have a USB C connector that charges the unit. I don’t know if the five contacts in the base provide communication or not…

    • usr

      Would be quite awesome if third-party product creativity would start taking advantage of the pogo charge port. But given the runtime of the 1030+ that market won’t be big. Charging on the bike doesn’t seem very inviting given the charge port location of the x30 generation. A wall mounted home charge dock could be quite attentive. (I do like to charge my 1000 on the bike, if it happens to be in range of the delightfully long Favero cables)

    • usr

      > The only device I need a micro-USB cable for these days is really a Garmin Edge.

      Did any of the USB-rechargeable powermeters already do the switch?

      (off-topic observation: when I connect all the USB charge ports on a bike equipped for travel it looks like a jacked-in fantasy from a 1980ies cyberpunk dystopia)

    • No, all the power meters that are rechargeable have their own funky-ass connectors. Part of of the reason when I travel, I travel with Vector 3 or PowerTap pedals.

    • usr

      At least for Favero and SRM-X, the funky connectors are micro-USB on the intake side, Podiiiium is taking micro directly.

      A quick dive into datasheets on RS components shows that it is possible to implement C female within the general size envelope of micro, but IPX rated variants are still new to the market (e.g. listed on Mouser but not yet on RS)

    • Eli

      Micro USB and USB-C are both rated to 10,000 insertion cycles. So there is no breakage advantage to updating the usb connector. link to gct.co

    • usr

      Well, people have broken micro and I’m sure that they did not do so by reaching 10k insertions. But I’m also sure that a good implementation of micro will easily outlast a not so good implementation of C and that mainly people simply don’t yet have that much negative experience with C because most don’t have C long enough to wear out even the worst eggs.

      Also, if you only use C for low power charging you will enjoy the quadruple redundancy in the power lines that are a side effect of the reversability. Therefore, the entire class of defects that comes from gunked up contact surfaces will be much rarer, you can lose six out of eight contacts and see no ill effect (except that it would burn up or something if you tried to force a fast charge over that connection)

    • GLT

      USB-C may have the tiny durability advantage of not having users attempting to insert the cable head in the wrong orientation as often. More an issue of stress on the board connection or the crown than the pins of the port itself in that situation.

      If nothing else USB-C and the Garmin watch connector styles may save a tiny amount of user frustration.

    • A breakage rating would be specific to a given manufacturer, and definitely not applicable to all devices. There’s very little debate micro-USB is less durable than USB-C. USB-C is by far a strong connector, especially in terms of lateral forces.

      I’ve broken plenty of crappy micro-USB connectors on all assortment of devices over the years. I’ve yet to even come close to that with a USB-C connector.

  57. Akiva Wasser

    I like the cyclist figurines in your first picture.

    Is your picture of the Hammerhead Karoo using a new Advanced Test Group release?

  58. Fernando

    I got so traumatized on how bad my Edge 820 was that is hard for me to take the decision whether I should upgrade to this new model or use a smartphone as cycling computer instead 🤔

    • Matthew

      That’s two of us. I’ve also had to reset my 820 so many times to fix crappy Garmin firmware updates that I’ve stopped really setting up screens. Garmin really needs to add the ability to “save” setup somehow so you can re-apply it when you need to default reset your device.

    • Bill Brannon

      Copy the assorted setting fit files to your pc and then copy them back after the reset. Same for courses you may want to save. link to support.garmin.com

  59. Chris Q

    Would you consider this a larger 830, or a larger 820 with some upgrades? I had an 820 for a while and found it to be the worst Garmin device I’ve ever owned by a long shot. By comparison I’ve had great luck with the 830. I bought a 1030 (non-plus) about a year ago and it was just a really larger 820. If this one is actually an 830 with a larger screen that’d be good news.

    • Definitely a larger 830. Now, if you haven’t used the Edge 1030 in a long while, you might want to take it out and update the firmware. The bulk of the changes you’ll honestly just get via those summer/fall firmware updates. Though, the speed ones are the main differences you’d notice from the 1030 if a frequent 830 user.

    • Chris Q

      Awesome, thanks!

  60. klaus

    LiveTracking with iOS Connect APP has lost Facebook Integration in last year (or the year before?).

  61. Stuart

    Great job as always!

    I may have missed it but will updates offered the 1030 be also available to the Bontrager 1030?

  62. Achim Seifter

    Thanks for the detailed review. There is one thing that puzzles me always: I’m doing most of my rides with a Fenix 6 x sapphire (For recording) and an edge 1000 (for displaying and routing), the Fenix is sometimes giving me 10% more elevation gain, sometimes almost the same. If I ride with friends the elevation gain varies within up to 8-10% within the group. Is there any observation of you on this issue (I know that the Netherlands might not be the best place to address this issue)?
    Thanks, Achim

  63. Ray,

    Is the louder beeper a firmware update or hardware improvement. I cannot hear the beep on my edge 1030 with the Varia Radar, which is disappointing…

  64. Saul

    literally just extra $200 for 1″ compare to 830… pfff

    • Nick

      Hopefully better GPS signal retention. I went through 3 Edge 830 units before giving up and getting a refund from Garmin direct.

      Satellites lost was a major irritant back then.

    • Saul

      don’t think so, the same Sony GPS chip on both

    • Nick

      The Fenix 6x pro uses the same chipset and has no such issues. There’s far more than the chipset make and model at play.

    • Saul

      difficult to say where is a problem. My wife’s Vivoactive 3 was replaced 3 times because of losing steps count problem whereas my FR935 never had problems. It might be just some manufacturing hw faults

    • Nick

      With three consecutive Edge 830 units? Just look at the Edge 830 forum- it is far from a rare issue.

    • Paul S.

      How long ago was this? In the beginning, my 830 would often tell me “Satellites lost” (or whatever it actually says) but it was never true. The position was still being recorded and displayed correctly. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it say that.

    • Agree. I think I saw that lost satellite thing once or twice last May. I believe right before my ‘Garmin Bugs’ post. My understanding was that was fixed around that same week though. I’ve never seen it again.

    • Nick

      As mentioned, I went through 3! units with the same problem. The Garmin forums are still full of people reporting this issue.

      Garmin gave me a full refund twice even after claiming it is no longer possible that I am experiencing this issue.

    • Andrew M

      Latest 530/830 firmware (5.50) supposedly addresses this.

      But it was certainly plenty annoying.

  65. Hmm, it seems I’m not the only one not getting enough “low aerobic”, good to know 🙂

    The lack of SD-card means that topo maps that Garmin uses to sell is a no-go anymore. Not that I used them much, but they have often better detail in the mountains. Download version, I guess, not reusable between devices ☹ and they’re not cheap either ☹☹.

  66. Ihsan

    Ray,

    I cannot agree more with your statement “but it’s almost unheard of for me to see the ‘High Aerobic’ in the right zone“!

    On my Edge 1030, I’m either low aerobic, or anaerobic, hardly ever high aerobic in the right zone just like you wrote. I thought I was doing something wrong. Reading your above sentence was a “heck yeah!” moment. 🙂

  67. Steve W

    Ray, planning to purchase my first GPS shortly. The only reason I’d go for a 1030 Plus over a 530/830 is if I find I need the larger screen size. Question for you on the 1030 Plus/1030 is the 1030s are already being discounted $100 or so; is it worth an extra $100 for the features you’d get with a 1030 Plus that you wouldn’t with a 1030?

    BTW, our daughter is currently just a few towns to the south of you, working at TU Delft.

    Thanks!

    • $100 is tough. That’s close enough that it’s nice to know longer term you’ll probably get better updates for the Plus series.

      But at the same time, when it comes to updates, historically the Plus series has always gotten the shorter end of the stick (usually due to hardware claims). So basing the extra $100 on the assumption it might get an extra year or two’s features is probably misguided thinking, especially since in this case Garmin is saying these features (some anyway) are coming to the original Edge 1030 later this year.

      Hope you’re daughter is enjoying it there. It’s a pretty town for sure!

    • Krzysztof

      I found 1030 for 400 Eur, so it would be 200 discount over 1030Plus, I too have hard decisions to make now.

    • Mark

      In the spring, you could get the original 1030 in the UK for an amazing £299, which leads me to believe they will start selling them off later this year. Therefore, the question for me is: is the 1030 Plus worth a wopping £200 more?

    • Krzysztof

      I would look for 830 Vs 1030plus at you place, hot my hands on 830 yesterday, and it seems to be much more responsive in comparison to 1030. Same for animations speed, and route calculations.

    • Mark

      As an ageing MAMIL my eyes are weakening so I need the bigger screen. So, a £300 older, slower version or a £500 faster one…

  68. How long til new 530 plus? Or 540? Or 830 plus, or 840? ;o 1040?

    Waiting for these.

    • Typically speaking Garmin releases cycling computers on an either 2 year or 3 year refresh cycle, depending on winds, moon phases, and tidal conditions. In other words, I wouldn’t expect any more bike computers till at earliest next spring.

    • usr

      Ray did leak about Edge release dates before, I don’t remember where exactly, but I’ll quote from memory:

      “Most likely it will be a Tuesday”

      From my own personal crystal ball I’d like to add that I expect those “40ies”, if they stick to the naming scheme, to all be released on the same Tuesday. It worked well for the paired release of the 530/530, and that release synchronization was also preceded by a “plus” (the 520+ that filled the gap from 520 to the 530 that was pushed back to the 830 release date).

      When they are all released in parallel there will be no more awkward buying decisions along the lines of “this is my preferred form factor, but that one has a more recent CPU and/or won’t fall off the feature updates hotlist as early”.

      My crystal ball is silent about wether Garmin will stick to three years (“40ies” in 2022, three years after [58]30) or increase cadence to two years (“40ies” in 2021). I suppose that it must be much easier to design three form factors in parallel on one shared technological base than three form factors overlapping, but offset by one year of progress each.

    • For Garmin, it’s always a Tuesday at 7AM US Eastern. Unless it’s not. But that’s super rare and really only happens when it’s timed to a specific show-open announcement (such as opening day of Eurobike or opening day of IFA, or CES, etc…). And even then, those are slowly fading away as brands realize announcing on opening show dates means less eyeballs as there’s lots of things consumers are distracted with.

      Other companies have standard embargo times too. Strava is always 10AM Pacific. Wahoo is almost always 9AM Eastern. GoPro is 6AM Pacific. Fitbit is typically 9AM Eastern.

  69. James

    Is the beep volume adjustable? I like the idea of it being louder, but I worry that constant radar notifications would be too annoying at a higher volume.

  70. Pete Scudder

    What about maps for Asia? Didnt see these anywhere.

    • Yeah, I’m waiting for the Asia maps answer. That question apparently broke the Q&A machine and lots more digging was required. Hope to know shortly.

    • MZ in JP

      Looking forward to hearing about this… and I am foolishly optimistic that they will offer global maps/asia maps to other devices such as the Fenix 6 series!

      Knowing how 2020 has gone thus far, it is probably better that I assume they will release this on the 6 Plus but not other Fenix 6 models “just because”.

    • chup

      Typical Garmin support response time in answering a question like language support? When it says “Global” Garmin should have expected this question regarding Asia maps…

      Sorry to be so mean but this the Garmin problem for years. 2020 and the top model is still region divided? How big is the CJK font library? Extra battery used to support the extra storage required?

    • Ok, got clarification back there on Asia maps, and it’s non-ideal: Asia maps will *not* be available for swapping to non-Asia units.

      I’ve asked for technical clarification on why that is exactly. In the meantime, I’ve updated the post accordingly.

    • …and, got clarification on the lack of Asia map swapping. I’m told it’s due to “map royalty issues”.

      Which is funny, as that indirectly answers a question I was wondering the other day (to myself), which was that previously Garmin licensed their maps globally. But in the last few years they’ve leveraged more and more OSM. However, I’d wondered if there were still maps they licensed, or pieces of maps. I guess that answers that.

  71. MZ in JP

    Hey DCR,

    A bit unrelated to the Edge but… still somewhat relevant:do you think that Garmin will carry any of the biggest features from this release over to the Fenix 6 series (namely the global maps) as a software update?

    I live in Japan but own a US market Fenix 6X Sapphire – I’ve uploaded open street map onto the watch and I’ve *even managed to put topo maps* of Japan on here after a hefty amount of searching for this on Japanese websites.

    The OSM and Japan topo maps work but they seem to drag from time to time, especially towards the end of a longer run & certainly during long rides/hikes etc. This is most notable when switching from one data screen in an activity to the mapping screen.

    All of this is to say: I hope Garmin adds global maps onto the Fenix 6 series – how likely do you think this might be?

    Cheers,
    MZ in JP

    • I suspect we’ll see some things make it to the Fenix 6 series, but they beat to their own drum. Had it been rolled into a Forerunner device first, we’d see it quicker. But Edge to Fenix is usually a little bit longer.

      I would expect something like the LiveTrack bits to show up faster than other pieces.

      As for global maps for the Fenix 6? Honestly, I doubt it. One notable is that Garmin over the last year reduced the price point to $19 for a region, which is helpful. It’s still a cluster-fudge to get those on there though.

  72. Frankenzen

    Thanks Ray. Good review as always. I was waiting for something like this to upgrade from my old Edge 1000. Some good new features in this unit, especially the almost world wide maps. My disappointments with it are
    1. No Asia maps (just missing a few billion peoples here?).
    2. Still using micro USB rather than USB-C with lots of mechanical failures on older edge units
    3. Not taking into account indoor Zwift and TR data etc for estimating lots of important metrics.
    4. Was hoping for a bigger screen, my bad.
    5. Weird location for the lap and stop start buttons.

    Here’s hoping they fixed the power button failures on so many older garmin units when the plastic starts to disintegrate.

  73. Paulo

    Hi

    I just looked into the battery pack at garmin.com and it says it’s compatible with some forerunners (935, 945..).

    I know you can charge anything with an usb cable, but to list at compatibles it most do something different. Have you tried it?

    Also it does not list the fenix 6 or 5. My guess here is the lack of a quick release kit for the fenix. So how does exactly the 945 connects to the battery pack?

    Thanks

    • Steven Knapp

      I have the battery pack and a 935 w/ the quick release kit. I think they are saying you can use the USB cable. I don’t see any other way to attach the battery to the watch.

    • Steven is correct. I suspect someone was just sitting there going: ‘Well, I suppose technically it’s compatible…so…check this box, and that box, and this box…” 🙂

  74. David Marshall

    Greedy Garmin Australia have priced the 1030+ at $999, the previous model 1030 was $749.

    Even with a fluctuating currency price, an increase of $250 is price gouging. And a formal complaint is underway.

    • rgurney

      $999.00 is utterly ludicrous. ‘Whatever the public will bear’ is the usual business plan. Vote with your feet. Go elsewhere.

  75. Bernd

    Great review! How is the back of the new 1030 Plus unit? Is this the same clip system like the previous models?

  76. Volker

    Hi dc,

    at the beginning of this thread there are some questions about the new map feature for the 1030+ (will it come to other devices, no maps for Asia…).

    Perhaps you have overlocked that. Would be nice, if you can tell us something about that.

    Thanks

  77. Keyser

    I for one like the fact that Garmin insists on making the devices “standalone” configurable (No smartphone needed). I bought a Apple Watch LTE years ago to avoid having to bring my smartphone on rides.

    The ONE thing that could make me upgrade my garmin unit (520 plus) was a simple Apple Watch companion APP. It doesn’t need to do anything or have any interface. It should just connect to the Edge to provide LTE for Livetrack, and allow for relay of SMS/messages to the Edge.
    If they did that, Garmin would be feature complete to me 🙂

  78. Nick

    How does the display compare to the Edge 530/830?
    I believe the smaller Garmins have far better panels versus the Edge 1030.

  79. Stuart Hall

    Hi Ray, and thanks for another crystal clear and concise review.

    One question – do you think that Garmin will roll out the mid-ride routing changes to other devices (e.g. 530/830/1030)? The current lack of dynamic re-routing when following a course (e.g. skip-ahead) is a pretty gaping hole in the functionality and would seem a great feature to include in the current generation of devices!

    Thanks again

    • They didn’t specify they would when I asked. So I don’t expect it at this point unfortunately.

    • Eric Tiffany

      The only plausible reason I can imagine for not back-porting these re-routing features would be screen-layout issues to present the options.

      Otherwise, it would seem like it would be more work to omit these features from software builds for other capable devices (e.g., the 530/830/1030 devices at least), but that assumes that the Garmin software development process is not completely f’d up. So…yeah.

      Or, the suits think that reserving these features to the 1030 Plus will be a good way to drive sales of 1030Plus devices — which is magical thinking since it will really drive sales to Wahoo and Karoo.

  80. FrankJ

    Nice review!

    One remark. You always write “There’s likely no topic that stirs as much discussion and passion as GPS accuracy.” Well, for me, I couldn’t care less about that. I always read your review entirely, but I just scan this part. Just so you know. Many people _don’t_ actually care that much about GPS accuracy. As long as it’s quite good, it’s good enough.

    • Don’t worry, I dislike writing that whole section as much as the next guy or gal.

      But, it’s still true. God help any device that doesn’t show people where they actually went. I never hear the end of it. Thus, that section basically says “Here’s what you’ll get, even if heavily over-analyzed’.

    • usr

      Keep it up!

      I skip ahead to the conclusion of those sections just like everybody else, but the fact that they are there in case I want to really drill down is one of the many great things that set this site apart from all the shallow “slightly reword the press release” influencer stuff or there.

    • Thanks, I appreciate it!

  81. Jakob

    Speculating that next models of Fenix + Forerunner may be equipped with all maps as well

  82. John

    Waaaayyy overpriced!! £530 for the bundle?!?!?

    Garmin have been taking the piss with their prices for years. Thats more than a top of the line mobile or next gen gaming computers and consoles. £500+ for whats basically a cycling computer, ridiculous.

    • I keep seeing this line of thinking (both overpriced and the phone bit). The phone aspect doesn’t really apply. Different use cases for 98% of the likely target market here. If you’re gonna use a phone as a bike computer on the regular, you’re not gonna buy a $299 bike computer, let alone a $599 one.

      As for the overall price, it’s expensive – absolutely. But overpriced is tricky. After all, Garmin has been selling this model at this price for 3 years, and boatloads of people are buying it at that price and seemingly happy with it.

      In my mind, overpriced is when, roughly:

      A) Something isn’t priced to the market, and as such they lose market share
      B) Something is priced based purely on brand value/attraction, and thus people overpay for what is usually inferior features/quality

      But I don’t think either apply here. Again, just me.

    • RZ605

      I’d add the Useful Life factor to it. In my view the Edge devices got much longer life than a Garmin watch so they’re less “overpriced” than a Fenix.

    • camillo

      Agree on the ‘Useful Life factor’. I bought my edge 1000 in 2014 and still see no real reason to upgrade (I would if new models had usb-c).

  83. Vince

    Waiting on the new Hammerhead to come out

  84. Tom W

    It’s a shame… this sounds great, but after my awful experiences with Garmin over support on issues with my 830 (that reset every 2 days or so, taking the ride data with it, then I had to pay to sent it back to them for a warranty replacement), I can’t bring myself to give them another dime.

  85. RZ605

    Hey there! Has Garmin made a software change to make Auto Pause functional when stopping during a structured workout ride outside?
    It’s pretty frustrating the way it is today – needing to manually press Pause when stopping at lights, press Resume when starting to move again, and then the data screen jumps back to the Structured Workout screen instead of the one you were on before stopping.

  86. Gordon Freeman

    Your paragraph about POI navigation hits home for me. This is my main gripe with Garmin devices (which I use anyway admittedly).
    When we write software a feature is always developed like this: “as [who does your feature benefit?] I want to [what does your feature do?] so [what do you gain from it?]
    Example: As [a cyclist away from home on a ride] I want to [get a fresh drink] so [I can quench my thirst].
    I think that’s what underlines a feature like POI. If it worked that way, POIs would be a master feature of Garmin devices, in the same way Google Maps is probably the most important app on an Android Phone (I’d argue even more than the Phone app).

    Now there is absolutely no way that the current implementation of POIs is the best you could think of. Or even passable fwiw. My personal ideal would be: stop the bike, take my phone out, open Google Maps, find a pub, click share, click “Share to Garmin Edge”, put my phone away, click “Go” on the Garmin. And savour that drink. YMMV with iOS but that’s the idea.

    Now that doesn’t sound like a lot to ask. AFAIK all it needs is an implementation for this: link to developer.android.com , so Garmin appears like a sharing destination like any other app.

    Until then, the actual experience goes: stop the bike, take my phone out, open Google Maps, find a pub, click Home on Garmin, Go to navigation menu, Find Address, Select country (like !!!!!, for real?), type in the beginning of the postcode of the pub, type in the street name of the pub, type in the street number of the pub, put my phone away click “Navigate To” on the Garmin. All of this with the poor on-screen keyboard experience on the Garmin (postcodes here in the UK are alphanumerical you keep switching between alphabet and number screens), my phone wanting to screen lock constantly and the Garmin 50% of the times not having the exact same information about street names, street numbers etc than Maps. Argh. ffs.

    • Gordon Freeman

      Mind you I appreciate they make sure you can cycle without a phone too, which is commendable. It’s just missing some love for the experience with a phone.

    • usr

      Fully agree, it should absolutely integrate with the navigation intents on android via connect app.

      One complication that is easy to forget though is that the connect app has to cater for all kinds of garmin devices and they need to figure out what to do when you e.g. only use the app with the independently recording Bluetooth speed sensor, a Vivofit, or, I don’t know, the ANT+ weight scale? The original intent filter system is install time only and runtime (“direct”) share targets are a bit of an advanced topic.

      Certainly doable but the fact that the connect app serves so many wildly different devices makes it a tougher but to crack than for, say, Wahoo. There also seems to be a bit of an intraorganizational responsibility problem, e.g. if the connectIQ team needs something implemented by the Connect App team there seems to be a lot of red tape in the way.

    • Gordon Freeman

      Yes you’re right and also they have to cater to wildly different types of users so priorities might not be the same for everyone. I’m a bit of a tourist and I do have a terrible sense of orientation so I use nav a lot but lots of people don’t necessarily use it at all. Actually in DCR posts it’s rarely that big a section for instance, which is fair considering the audience here.

    • Yeah, I don’t think either Wahoo or Garmin nail the experiance on ad-hoc nav yet. Garmin is great if you somehow forgot your phone at home. But Wahoo is easier when its ‘just get me to Ikea’, and done. Because in the app you can literally type Ikea, and off it’ll go instantly to the ROAM.

      That’s the piece I wish Garmin had. Not Ikea per se, but just the quick ad-hoc ‘get me somewhere’ route, with using actual business names. Obviously Wahoo is just pulling that from some API, but it’s super useful.

    • Mark R.

      Append all of that rigmarole with …
      “Find a shady spot not in direct sunlight to better read your phone, then get your reading glasses out of your back pocket so you can read the tiny phone script, and reverse the process when the address is programmed in”

      It s a genuine missed opportunity. Having hot keys for “Show me the nearest open food/drink shops/gas stations” and “Find me the nearest open pub”, “Find me the nearest bike shop”, and a few others that result in you being offered a list of alternatives in proximity order would be a real improvement. For rescue situations, when the last inner tube has been used, “Text Significant Other a link to where I am on Google maps” or “Text S.O. my what3words location” would be huge.

      It should be easy. It seems not.
      We’re a 1000/1030 family, I’m still undecided on the upgrade top the 1030 plus. Would love a front facing cam. That would be a killer app for me on the crowded UK roads.

    • usr

      What Garmin does nail is the use case of going without electronic navigation for most of the day and only dropping a pin on the map when overwhelmed by a difficult section, usually a city of sorts. You really don’t need help following a route that consists of major alpine passes back to back, or going about on your favorite winter training island, but the cities in between are always full of one way mazes, barriers like railroads, highways, rivers with few chokepoint passages that you must not miss even if that other road looks so much more inviting and so on.

      In this situation I know exactly where I want to emerge from the city (e.g. the entry to a secluded climb, the low-traffic parallel to a major road that won’t have signs pointing to it) but I am super open to suggestions about how to get there.

      When passing through cities I also don’t like to be stuck with a pre-planned route, as local traffic patterns, specifics of bike infrastructure and observing the local riders (Dirk Gently navigation method, locals know time-of-day specifics no heatmap will capture) often make me overthrow those plans when passing through urban areas. Dynamic recalculation that doesn’t care about anything pre-made other than the intended exit point is perfect for this.

  87. Pavel Vishnyakov

    Thanks for the super-detailed review, Ray!

    How does the touchscreen behave with gloves? Is it at least “somehow working” or not working at all?

    • RZ605

      If behaves the same as the Edge 830, pressing with gloves works great. Sliding left/right or up/down with gloves – not as much.

  88. Sander

    No integration with garmin Explore app?

  89. Ron Green

    How come when I wear bone conduction headphones the turn by turn directions come through on them, but the Varia Radar beeps do not…

  90. Jan

    Do you think there’s any chance the “Suggested Workout” feature will be able for the Forerunner 945 and Fenix 6 series? I’m really excited about seeing adaptive training features are finally getting implemented directly on these units.

  91. Adrian

    Hi Ray

    Wiggle link is not working. Message is that “this item is no longer available”

    • Huh, that’s weird. It’s working here.

      Quick question, which country are you in? For me the site is redirecting to the Netherlands site, but I’m wondering if something else is amiss?

      Thanks for the support attempt!

  92. Donny F

    I know people are complaining about the lack of USB-C. But, why hasn’t Garmin done away with the USB port all together? They don’t even need to use a wireless charging pad that phones use. There is already a place to charge new Garmins at the mount(aka where the external battery connects).

    • usr

      Removing mass storage access would piss off pretty much all customers who learned to use a garmin before they got Wi-Fi. And those are the ones least likely to switch to Wahoo (hard earned skills going to waste) unless pissed off, so Garmin wouldn’t want to do that. And in terms of charging, it would be a great loss of you couldn’t charge your GPS without some heavy and bulky special cable adapter. There are those of us who travel on the bike and any additional cable that only works for one of the many devices that have snuck into this activity won’t be welcomed at all.

      But as others have already mentioned in this thread, some neat charging accessories utilizing the base contacts would be nice to have, in addition to the USB port. That would also increase longevity and reduce customer support cost, because the ports break from use, not from years. So it would even help those who absolutely insist on having some form of standardized USB if they could stick to base contacts charging while at home.

    • Agree, I hope they don’t go wireless charging. Plus, even fast wireless charging is slow. Both micro-USB and USB-C cables are available pretty much anywhere on earth. So you can walk into any hotel lobby or such if you forgot one and someone will let you borrow one of those cables. Most grocery stores and gas stations have them too.

  93. Hans Schafer

    Thank you for another great review! One question I did not see answered in the review is whether when you import the activity profiles from your old device is the “history” data imported as well? I have activity profiles set up for each bike and like to track the total mileage on each bike that way. Would prefer to not go back to zero again for the mileage. Thanks!

    • Hmm, I don’t typically track mileage for bikes. In theory general history comes over, but at the moment I’m not seeing that. I had reset mine two days ago to get one last set of photos/video, and the history piece hasn’t synced in yet.

  94. BML

    Just got my unit today. Sadly, I can’t get the device to be recognized on the connecIQ app. Unreal, I had the 510 back in the day got distracted and went to wahoo. More or less happ w the bolt no major issues on wish the navigation was better. Was really excited to hear about all the advancements w Garmin and was it was no longer buggy… guess I was wrong. Called fermi support and said the IQ team probably did not update the app!!! WTF the main reason I got this init was to connec to TrainingPeaks and strava for my routes. Help anyone ???

    • Connect IQ app issue aside, you don’t need Connect IQ anymore for TrainingPeaks and Strava. With TrainingPeaks that changed a year ago, and Strava about a month ago.

      Just ensure your account is connected with Garmin Connect for Workouts and Courses. Then they instantly show up. 🙂

      Here’s my Strava post on it: link to dcrainmaker.com

      And here’s TP’s thing on it: link to help.trainingpeaks.com

    • BML

      ahhh, thanks! was going crazy looking for this. i made the connections and everything seems to be working except for the planned workouts. the workouts load to the device but i dont see them on the 1030 calendar for the day… does that take time to synch or did i miss a setting? BTW LOVE your review and content bravo!

  95. Volker

    Ok, 32 gb storage sounds great at first glance, but they have removed the sd card slot. So if you already own Garmin topo maps on a sd card…

    • Michi

      I assume you’d just copy them via USB to the device.

    • Meredith

      Garmin maps supplied on a SD card are locked to the card and won’t work if copied off the card. To use them you need to have a GPS device with a SD card slot.

  96. Ivor Peachey

    Hi ray
    As far as I’m concerned on navigation maps we have still got the WHITE ARROW on the WHITE BACKGROUND.
    Sat at home no problem, but on the move in busy traffic, rainy conditions, and even worse in night mode.
    I’ve asked repeatedly to make the Arrow RED .

  97. Kostas Papazoglou

    Are the accessories for the old 1030 model compatible with the new 1030 plus model?
    I am talking about a case and a screen protector…

  98. BikePower

    Just got the 1030 Plus today and it did not offer to transfer settings/sensors from the 1030 during set-up.

    Both devices are linked to my Garmin account and have up-to-date firmware. Also, there is recent ride data (from the weekend) on the 1030. Is there any way to manually initiate the transfer? I really do not want to configure the new device from scratch ….

    • BikePower

      Ok, just unregistered the 1030 Plus from my account, removed the device from the Connect phone app, removed the Bluetooth pairing from the phone, removed the device from the Garmin Express Mac app and did a full device reset. Then I started over again.

      This time my sensors were transferred and the “Indoor” profile transferred, but the “Road” profile did not. Looks like I’ll need to set up the screens for “Road” again, but at least I’m not totally starting from scratch.

      Another odd thing is that in Garmin Express (Mac) I installed all of the map updates but Express continues to tell me that map updates are available. When I try to install the supposed updates the updates complete immediately, but Express still insists that they are available (even after disconnecting the 1030 Plus, exiting Express and then reconnecting).

      I guess I should have known I’d encounter bugs for a new device. This is Garmin after all.

    • BikePower

      One more update. Perhaps the “Road” profile was not transferred because it uses Connect iQ apps. It looks like none of the iQ apps were transferred during set-up.

      The Android version of the iQ app does not seem to recognize the 1030 Plus. When I go to the web version of the iQ store there are some iQ apps available for the 1030 Plus, but none of the apps I use on the 1030 are available.

      Is this a Garmin issue or do developers have to update their iQ apps for the 1030 Plus?

    • BikePower

      Heard back from one developer who said that they are waiting for a device from Garmin to test with and that a new version of the CIQ app will be released sometime after that.

      So, it looks like I have a brand new device that I cannot use for a while because I have hardware that depends on CIQ apps. I just assumed that since they were both “1030” devices that everything would work, which it doesn’t.

      Wish I had known that before I ordered.

    • Well, this is always the situation with Garmin. I’ve seen a few (very few) apps that were released a while ago but already marked compatible, but the vast majority werent.

      Is the same with Fenix updates, is a general issue with the CIQ system. Not sure I’d call it a problem; technically I understand the reason.

      I have a few data fields I care much about, but it’s not like I can’t bike without them. So, I ordered.

    • ekutter

      You can most likely copy the app from your 1030 Garmin\Apps folder over to the 1030+. It’ll be a file with a .prg extension. It won’t do any harm. If you need to configure it through Garmin Connect, things get a little trickier.

  99. PatC

    Great review! I’ve noticed that the suggested workout pics are all based on power – is there an option for these to be based on HR zones for those of us without a power meter?

  100. Kris

    I am just wondering how long it will take before an Edge 1040 will be released?

    As far as I can remember when the Edge 520 plus was released only a few months later they released the Edge 530/830.

    How do you compare the update from the Edge 1030 to the 1030 plus and the update from the Edge 520 to the 520 plus. In the end the Edge 520 plus was not much more than adding maps/routing to the exisitng Edge 520, other than more memory not much changed to that HW. I have the impression that the Edge 1030 plus has more HW changes: faster processor/new GPS chipset, …

    • The Edge 520 Plus was released Apr 18th, 2018.
      The Edge 530/830 was released Apr 24th, 2019.

      I’d argue there’s a much bigger bump in hardware from Edge 1030 to 1030 Plus than 520 to 520 Plus.

    • usr

      The 520+ was an emergency software trickle-down (with the bare minimum of accompanying hardware change) because of what Wahoo did. The 1030+ is an emergency trickle-up because the 830 was totally killing the 1030 and that’s never good for a company when the higher priced units have a bigger margin.

      It’s 200 more expensive not because the bigger screen is good-plated but because there are people willing to pay that much and those who don’t can still get an 830. Everything that is priced in tiers is tightly calculated at the budget end and ends with a generous margin.

      Does this tell us anything about when successors to 530/830/1030+ will arrive? No. But in terms of technology the 1030+ is as “old” as the 830 now, so it would make sense to replace them at the same time (like 530/830). Garmin could either use the synergies from concurrent hardware releases to increase cadence (840 and possibly friends in 21), decrease cadence because devices don’t leapfrog each other anymore so they can focus on keeping them competitive with software for as longer (840 and friends in 23) or stick to the established cadence of three years per hardware generation (840 and friends in 22)

  101. Ken

    I’m debating between getting the 1030+ and the 830. I’m coming from the 810 so pretty much everything will be an upgrade. Any thoughts on which one I should get?

    • Krzysztof

      I moved from 820 to 830 today, You can buy 830 under 350€, and 1030plus is 600€.
      Feature list is just a little bigger on 1030plus, ask yourself if you want to spend almost twice for minor upgrade over 830

  102. André wachsi

    The specs mentioned by Garmin for the 1030 Plus are correct?

    – no Bikealarm – ok for me
    – no ClimbPro – thats a no go

  103. Pedja

    Great review, Ray. The one thing that’s really nice about this unit, compared to my 830, are the reroute options. As far as I can tell, 830’s idea of rerouting is to keep bugging me to turn around, which is…not helpful. Being able to pause the course, and choose how you want to rejoin it would be great. Garmin hasn’t said anything about bringing these options over to 830, I suppose?

    • Paul S.

      Having used my 830 to route extensively in the last month, if you have some idea of how to proceed, eventually the 830 will realize that you’re not going to turn around, will stop prompting U-turns and will offer a way forward. That doesn’t help if you don’t know the roads in the area at all, because you won’t know where to go initially. As I said before, what Garmin has needed for a long time is a active way in real time to mark a road as impassible and ask the unit to reroute immediately. Their automotive GPS’s do that, but they get traffic information fed to them, which isn’t feasible for a cycling unit. (Besides, there might be a road where traffic will be technically open, but, for example, I don’t like riding through a mile long one-lane flagged construction zone because some flagmen do stupid things, and I don’t ride on sidewalks even if they’re marked “bike paths”.) What they’re doing here is pretty good, but I’d really like to see a way to immediately say “no, I can’t follow this route here, find me a way around”. But I’d still like to see what they’re doing now on the 1030+ to trickle down to the 830 because it’d be an improvement on the way things are now.

  104. Scott

    Chatting with Garmin support they denied that there was any migration process. Where can I find documentation on it?

  105. Michael Adrian

    Coming from an Edge 1030 I just unboxed my 1030 Plus and wanted to set everything up for a ride tomorrow.

    Long story short: It’s exactly the same half-baked user experience I’ve had with other Garmin devices over the last couple of years. Migration of profiles and sensors: Fine. Connect IQ apps? Naa… you don’t want to migrate your Connect IQ apps and settings over. Even if you wanted to, you’ll fail because all those apps are not yet compatible with your new device and need to be updated by their respective authors.

    That’s not a problem because after like two years of usage you’ll finally agree that no one needs more than 2 data fields on their map screen, right?

    In addition to that, there is no migration of basic system settings like wireless network or sound settings (I find the 1030 Plus to be really loud and there does not seem to be a volume adjustment option).

    It’s so frustrating. So much potential, so little love for the product 🙁

  106. Just finished the first ride with the 1030 plus, and as opposed to some other comments, it’s actually a good launch *for Garmin*.

    I remember the 1030 crashing at the end of the activity for the first N months, live track not working reliably, many other issues at lunch.

    Today, I spent probably an hour and a half before the ride to get it read, and it was almost “no problems” for a simple ride. The good parts:

    * transferred sensors
    * transferred activity profiles, even one with CIQ data fields
    * easy pairing, got my VO₂max, my training load, etc.
    * no crashes
    * it is faster than the 1030 when riding, for sure
    * reroute does indeed appear and it goes away after a while, non-intrusive

    The bad parts
    * some sensors did not work after transfer; mainly varia radar, but given this is complex to pair in the first place (it’s technically 2 “sensors” in one, radar + light network), I’m not very surprised; the other was edge remote, this is the dumbest thing ever, I am indeed surprised
    * CIQ apps/fields/etc. are not there yet

    So, I’m suprises at how well this works “out of the box” for a Garmin device. Almost unheard of 🙂

  107. Alexis

    Do you have informations about “Advanced workout recommendation” on Fenix 6 line ?

  108. DerLordBS

    Might be off-topic: I never succeeded to enter the address navigation when I was following a route withe the Garmin Edge 830. Example: A friend asked me to meet up in a coffee shop during my ride. Or my friend asked me to pick her up during a ride. Is it possible with the 830 or the new model?

    • Paul S

      It’s there on my 830. Navigation->Search->Addresses Clunky to use because of the “keyboard”. If trying for a coffee shop, a better bet is Navigation->Search->POI Categories->Food and Drink->Cafe or Diner. For me that lists cafes (all the ones that I know about and more) in distance order from home, which is where I am now.

  109. Martin Perry

    Notice there is no Asian maps in the global maps available in your screenshots, any chance these will become available, was hoping to pick up a US model and use here in Asia to get around the delayed Asian model firmware updates, my Edge 530 is still running 5.20 instead of the latest 5.50 available in the rest of the world.

  110. McInner1

    Thanks for the review! Just got the new 1030 plus.
    One question:
    Do you know the DF Memory size? Same as Edge 1030 (127632)?
    Thank you!

  111. Coop

    Hi Ray, thanks for another thorough review. Any idea if the 1030 plus is a placeholder for a completely new version in a year from now, or will this one be around for a couple of years? Like you mentioned, it isn’t groundbreaking improvements, but is still the best out there. I need a new computer and am trying to decide if i bite the bullet and go with the 1030 plus or wait another year to see if they completely replace it.

  112. Brandon

    My training peaks workout is not appearing under today plan, any thoughts? However, they appear under workouts???

  113. Jørn

    Have Garmin published a battery chart (low, med, high) for 830 and 530?

    I also fall into the “High” usage (power meter, HRM, Varia, backlight always on, live tracking on, route on, phone on, always on map page, etc.) and my 520 plus is burning through the battery in 5-6 hrs compared to the 15hrs advertised.

  114. JOJO

    Would be nice if Garmin made the whole navigational interface more obvious – a bit like the ones you get in Car GPS devices. The smallness of the screens and number of streets they tend to show is difficult to follow in my view.

    • Horst

      There are already some OSMs where the width of the streets has been increased.

      See here: link to speichenkarte.de.

      And these cards can be imported into the Edge 1030 Plus via USB, although the import is very slow due to the outdated USB 2.0.

      The 1030, however, is much faster with the memory card removed and a reader.

      And then you can still zoom if necessary.

  115. Marc

    Thanks for the review. I have an edge 1000 with out front mounts on a few bikes, will the 1030 plus fit on the older 1000 out front mount or will I need to buy new mounts for all bikes again?

    • Paul S

      Garmin hasn’t changed the quarter turn mount since they first released it. My Edge 800, 1000, and 830 all work with the same mounts. I’m sure the 1030+ will too.

  116. Paul Cugini

    Hello DC Rainmaker!

    After reading your review I ordered one of these from CleverTrainer. I ordered on Monday and so far it hasn’t been shipped yet. I emailed to ask to change my shipping method to overnight (I would supply them with a credit card to pay for the extra charges) but I have received no reply other than an automated message. After reading some reviews about Clever Training, I see that many people have claimed that they are not very responsive and I’m beginning to get worried. I’m just wondering if you have any insight as to the best way to get in touch with them.

    • Paul Cugini

      Never mind, they just replied and gave me a tracking number though it hasn’t shipped yet. I was hoping to get it soon because coincidentally my Garmin Edge 820 just broke down two days after I ordered the 1030 Plus.

    • Sorry Paul – just catching up here! Good to hear it’s on the way! Thanks for the support!

  117. Brandon

    My TrainingPeaks workout are not showing under today’s plan or when I turn in the device when I have a specific workout for the day. However I can find the synced From TP under workouts… glitch or am I doing something wrong???

    • Ben

      Hi, have the same issue with my 830! TrainingPeaks training plans getting not fully synced (or synced at all) to the edge but are available in Garmin connect calendar… really annoying

  118. andy

    its still uses wifi to connect your ride on strava ?
    I read somewere the get rit of the wifi signal

  119. Griff

    Seems like a nice bike computer. I think its too expensive for me though. I don’t see that much more value above my 520 Plus.

  120. I couldn’t for the life of me get the 1030 Plus to connect to either Garmin Basecamp or Garmin Express.

    Turns out that I needed to use the USB cable shipped with the device, the other USB cables I had would let it charge, but for some reason not connect (they’re definitely data cables too, they’re not simple “charge only” cables.

    Unsure why this is, maybe some quirk of the cable supplied with the 1030 Plus :\

    • I’ve connected the Edge 1030 plus to my windows using random cables I already had – very old ones, actually. But for sure, I didn’t unpack the one provided. Maybe your old cable (cables?) had some issue?

    • Agree. I use all the cables under the rainbow. I’m a skittles bag of cables. No issues, as long as it’s a data cable.

      It’s plausible your other cable has a broken internal pin. Not actually that uncommon.

    • wolfgang trumler

      Did all of you connect to Basecamp with different cables?

  121. Will Wright

    I can’t get my 1030+ to control my neo 2. It’s paired as a trainer? Any ideas

  122. Mahboob

    I am curious to know if anyone has an idea on the battery capacity for the new edge 1030 plus. It is 1900 mAh for edge 1030, but would be excellent to know what’s the capacity on 1030 plus since it has a higher battery life.

    • usr

      It’s the same 1900mAh battery (source: internal photos from the FCC registration). All the savings come from a more economical chipset.

      This means that you get more extra hours if you e.g. top up during a coffee stop of a given length. The Roam for example requires a slightly bigger battery of 2000mAh to achieve its runtime.

  123. Sandor

    Hello! Is anybody else facing issues with the 1030 (the old one, not the plus) after the firmware 9.50? For me it seems like the same what apple did some years ago – the older version has been slowed down with the software: the switching between the pages takes 2-3 seconds, the boot is also a lot slower. Today I will test the navigation, let’s see.

  124. jose maria Benavent Valero

    Thanks for such a great review.

    I’ve heard that 1030plus doesn’t have a wifi connection. If so, how they manage to upload the courses? (only through your phone?)

    Many thanks, Ray

  125. Quick question about the new setup process. If, say, I had to factory-revert my aging Edge 1000, would the new process transfer my old settings, sensors etc when I set it up again on the Garmin Connect app? Thanks.

    • Not on the Edge 1000. It’s a one-way thing to the newer Edge 1030/130 Plus.

      It’s also, notably, a one-time thing. Meaning, even if you add sensors or tweak data pages on your Edge 1000, they won’t sync to the Edge 1030 Plus unless you fully reset your Edge 1030 Plus from scratch.

    • Thanks Ray, that’s kinda annoying. So it’s a backup and restore the old way. I’m having issues with the Edge 1000 shutting down mid-ride, most annoying.

    • wolfgang trumler

      Had the same problem. There is a point concerning kind of auto-stop in one of the menus. Think you have to switch it off

      Regards

    • Don’t think it’s anything to do with autopause/stop – it just shut down spontaneously mid-ride. I looked at the debug file, but I have no idea what any of it means.

  126. wolfgang trumler

    Pretty detaiied report.

    2 questions please:

    1. Display looks like colours are washed out, pale and display a bit dark on some pics – like on my new Edge 1030 Plus when not in direct sunlight. Other pics with bright colourful screen – how did you reach the latter, especially indoor?

    2. Cannot connect with BaseCamp BirdsEye for raster map download as BaseCamp not recognizes the Edge 1030 Plus (no problem with old Garmin Edge 1000). Important for me Do you know if Garmin will be able and willing to fix that?

    Thanks
    Wolfgang

    • I just take the photos either outside with natural light (preferably not sunlight actually – it’s too harsh for good photos, even if it makes the screen look brighter), or inside with studio lights. Double-check your backlight settings (it could be on auto, or manual, if it’s on manual, double-check it’s not at lowest setting).

      Not sure on Basecamp, I haven’t played with that in a long while. :-/

    • Paul S.

      Try looking for an update to BaseCamp. I’ve noticed a few times that when something new from Garmin comes out, it often takes a little while for their software to be told “yes, this is one of ours”. In the case of BirdsEye (I was surprised it still exists, but there it is in BaseCamp), since it’s subscription only, I’d guess that’s even more likely. And BaseCamp 4.8.4 for macOS is now telling me that 4.8.8 is available, so go get the new BaseCamp and try again.

    • wolfgang trumler

      Thanks. Displax is at manual, with100%.
      I feel it is not so well to read in shadow or indoor.

      @Paul: max I ask if you know or use other ways of uploading raster maps to an Edge 1030 Plus device than BirdsEye as you are surprised that it still exists?

      Regards

    • Paul S

      I have no idea. It wouldn’t surprise me if it weren’t possible, either third party or BirdsEye itself. My comment about BirdsEye was because it used to be common for Garmin to mention it in ads, and I can’t remember having seen any mention of it in a long while. (I got a free trial with something I bought, maybe the Epix. Tried it out, didn’t like it.) It might be like the VIRBs, legacy support currently exists that’s going to disappear someday.

    • wolfgang trumler

      Yeah but Garmin states Edge 1030 Plus as compatible device on BirdsEye Select sales website.

    • Paul S.

      When I searched at buy.garmin.com, they’re still selling subscriptions to BirdsEye, but not a single Edge turned up in the search, just handhelds (and I’m not sure if they’re the current handhelds since I don’t keep up with them). There’s no mention of BirdsEye on the 1030+ page at buy.garmin.com. If BirdsEye doesn’t work with the latest BaseCamp, then you might have to call Garmin support and find out what the story is.

    • wolfgang trumler

      According to Garmin buy website for Germany and Austria Edge 1030 Plus is a compatible Edge gear for BirdsEye

      link to buy.garmin.com

      Regards

  127. Jusder

    What is the difference in the screens of the 830 vs the 1030 Plus? I initially got the 830, but decided to try out the 1030 Plus when it came out. It seems like the 830 has darker darks and lighter lights as compared to the 1030 Plus. I figured they would have the same technology screens?

    • Jusder

      I’ve verified that all display settings are identical between the two devices. I can see both displays so it’s not a HUGE deal, but I definitely like the crisper display of the 830.

    • wolfgang trumler

      I learned from the forum that 1030 and 1030 plus have the new, more responsive display which is darker with pale colours except in direct sunlights. I was shocked when I compared displays of my old Edge 1000 and Edge 1030 Plus. Dont know why it is not possible to integrate a display which combines the brightness and strong colours of eg the cheap Edge Explore, 830 or 1000 with the
      responsiveness of 1030 Plus.

      I fin dthe display bad especially in shadow (in the wood) but I have to mnetion that many users do not have this problem and are satisfied with it.

  128. Rob

    Just wondering if it has the same irratating features as the 520 does?

    I have an an Edge 520, and for me there are some features which are (very) anoying, stiff buttons require a lot of bracing to operate, every ten minutes or so the screen gets replaced by a picture of meaningless clock, at a random interval the screen gets replaced by the word “good” in a very small font. At least these do go away, the low battery warning does not without pressing a button.

    and there is the price of the 1030+? you could get a pretty decent laptop for that, although it maybe trickier to use on longer rides.

    Rob.

    • The buttons on the Edge 1030 series have always been software than those on the original Edge 520.

      I’ve never in my entire life seen my screen get replaced by a picture of a clock, on any interval. So, that sounds like you’ve got some odd Connect IQ app installed perhaps that’s doing that. I’d definitely double-check that. Or, maybe a time-alert enabled?

    • usr

      ” at a random interval the screen gets replaced by the word “good” in a very small font”

      Sounds like you might want to disable the feature “recovery advisor” if that annoys you. It displays “good” (or occasionally something else) about ten minutes after starting an activity.

  129. Rob

    and I forgot to add to my previous comment on the 520, that every time it is pluged or unplugged it switches itself on (now and again it will decided to switch itself off again, but not often). Crazy.

    So just wondering if the 1030+ has this ‘feature’.

  130. wolfgang trumler

    DC Rainmaker did you check if there is a limit for number of .kmz files (custom files) on Edge 1030 Plus. I faced the problem today that only 4 of 5 .kmz-files were shown on the device despite the fact thst I uploaded 5 .kmz-files into the custom maps-folder of the device properly.

    Thank you in advance

    ProfGruen

  131. Markus

    Awesome detailled report – thx!
    one Question: I installed my 1030 plus today to use on my MTB. Used routing “mountainbikíng” – still get routes not using trails but regular road – any experience?

  132. ROSTAN PICCOLI

    Hi I see in the workout one data field it seem to be “Step Avg Power”, but I can´t find it in any place. Where did you find it? or what´s the name of it in the Garmin data fields?

    Thank you, great article.

  133. Ron Skyewalkr

    when you’re pairing this as a smart trainer with a tacx or wahoo or stages, is there any way to enable external control? i can’t seem to find one. miss if so, because this looks to be the best way to pair with a smart bike (you can see all metrics including speed and distance from the single pairing), but when you do so you lose the ability to use the bike with literally anything else (zwift, fulgaz etc)

    • No, there’s no direct ‘Turn off control’ that I know of.

      I typically pair it as a power meter, rather than a trainer, for the reasons you noted – and then pair to Zwift. Though, depending on the exact trainer, that may or may not include all the speed streams (all of them include cadence though).

  134. Clement

    Is there a walking / hiking mode on this? Saw some complaint on the Garmin forum re the 1030 but it was a while ago not sure if the new modes have been added…

  135. Terry

    Great review DCR – possibly my next computer. Any idea when Garmin will incorporate Approach Golf Computer functionality into Edge? That would be ideal!