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Any hints of a new Elemnt unit… other than color cases?
Looks like something is comming since Elemnt is now taken down from wahoo websites as a existing model
I do not think there is something new coming real soon. For the US market one has to register the devices with the FCC. The ROAM popped up there 2 months before it was announced. As of right now there is no new registration for Wahoo there. Just pulled the trigger for a BOLT replacing my Lezyne …
When companies show up in the FCC before their launch date, it means someone at said company screwed up.
Companies can (and always do) hide their FCC listing until a predefined ‘disclosure’ date. What happened in Wahoo’s case (as often does, though oddly almost every time for Wahoo), is that companies put all the paperwork in, and then the product announce date slips. And then it slips again. And then 5 months later they forgot about the paperwork they submitted and some random Tuesday morning everyone at said company craps themselves. Roughly.
Having just ordered a Cannondale Supersix Evo E, I’m definitely interested in gps unit e support. Particularly as the ebikemotion system has no display other than on your phone. However it’s my out front gps (garmin) unit that I’m looking at as I ride, not my phone!
Still no word on ANT+ light support? Gah.
A feature some of us actually care about!
Exactly!! Still waiting for this feature on Wahoo…
Having had it for years on my Garmin, and having had ant+ lights for years, I have it turned off. It’s just not worth it
Now that my Bolt can provide GPS to the ANGi, I may seriously look into getting one. But, alas, I’ll have to wait for the Android update.
Great photo of your child looking at the Big Bike she wants to ride. . . Need to frame that one. Regards, Dan
The Stealth E-Bike support is of use to professional riders,
notably Team Ineos nee Sky. The DS likes to know battery
levels on the climbs, reported thru encrypted Wahoo Stealth
Cloud app to the team car. You didn’t think Stealth referred to the
colourway did you ?
I did not believe the bolt previously had the 3 right side LED lights, or am I mistaken?
I think that’s an image of the Roam. Would make sense, as the BOLT doesn’t have a colour screen either :}.
Interesting that in AU, the Bolt drops in price and the 530 goes up. I think you mentioned this on the FIT file podcast.
In June 2019 Garmin deliberately disabled support for Edge 510 to Android bluetooth synching which was petty and nasty. “DEVICE_NOT_SUPPORTED” Yep, I guess you showed me. Thanks Garmin.
Given this poor behaviour, I’m inclined to support Wahoo and the price helps too.
I’ve never heard of Garmin disabling connectivity via Bluetooth. That’s super weird. Did you contact support?
Love the Bolt!
But too bad that Wahoo is still unable to fix the average power calculation on these units.
For instance, yesterday I did 2h24m10s ride.
Wahoo app and Bolt calculate the average power for the ride at 201W, and 1395kJ, which is obviously wrong. (Basic math says… 201W x 8650s = 1738kJ)
But if I export this exact same .fit file to Strava, TrainingPeaks, Golden Cheetah or any other platform, the calculated average power for the ride is 210W, and kJoules 1816, which is correct.
Interestingly the normalized power is calculated at 224W on Wahoo and all other platforms.
I have reported that issue to Wahoo support a few times, and they say everything is OK, and this is because of “sampling rate”… I guess somebody at Wahoo has really tough time understanding what “average” actually means.
The drop in price of the Wahoo is such a great timing. Hopefully it will be reflected in the dutch stores soon.
Thanks for the heads up!
I have BOLT 3 years now and loved it, BUT
in my opinion it will be a huge mistake to buy it at the moment, new hugely improved Garmin Edge 530 is the way to go now.
For those interested in Strava LIVE Segments be aware that Bolt does NOT sync with DOWNhill segments – Garmin does sync.
The Downhill segments not appearing on the Bolt was a shock to me (I was about to buy one) but then I realized that part of the ‘buggy’ behaviour my Garmin 520 was displaying (selectively showing Strava Live Segments) was actually this! I just double-checked and all the segments that now (they were last summer) aren’t appearing are downhill and there is a warning I never noticed if you look at the segment on your computer “Downhill segments are not eligible for segment goals”. So Garmin has disabled them as well. Lesson here is if you’re Garmin/Wahoo is functioning properly – stop updating it!
Please take this as (your first?) request to learn about ANT+ LEV with Garmin. I have a 2019 Giant Road E which has become, unexpectedly, about the only bike I ride now, both on and off road as my conventional bikes collect dust. As a Garmin Edge user since 2007 (Edge 305) to the present and having followed your blog for years, and as I ride with two Garmins all the time (1030 & 830), I love both cycling and Garmin technology. So does Giant really have ANT+ chip in their controllers? I love the Yamaha engine, and the more I read and look, the more I feel I got the best e-bike available for my needs at the current time, but I really would love to have that integration to Garmin in my perfect e-bike machine (actually perfect would be to have data from engine displayed on Garmin AND to have Di2 integration to control the engine levels AND to have dual front chainrings). As far as I now know, there is no engine in the world that has all this. Anyway, if you have any ability to figure out whether Giant e-bikes actually have ANT+ and how to integrate it to Garmin, I would love to know. I know I may be the only person in the world that is interested in this, but I am certainly interested.
I love Rondehoep.
Hi Ray,
I was just listening to the latest podcast and the story about the LEV protocol.
While you might be right for your own community, there is a HUGE amount of mountainbike riders converting to ebikes. Many of them already use Garmin products and Wahoo is finally joining this exciting new category.
Just a different view angle: adding DI2 battery level adds a small feature to existing customer base.
Adding eBike protocol enables all units to be used on an all new customer base.
eRoad is certainly in it’s early days but has big potential as well.
Touring customers are likely to use either on board computers or phones.
Time to join the off road community :) Certainly not an easy one from NL …
In case you happen to be in Switzerland, we’d love to have you over for a chat in our Specialized Turbo Innovation Center in Cham. 30min south of Zurich.
small example: link to emtbforums.com
Love your site, love your podcasts!
Best Regards,
Jan Talavasek
Director Turbo Technology
http://www.Specialized.com
Glad to see Wahoo support e-bikes. With Deloitte’s recent projection of 120 million e-bikes to be sold world-wide over the next 3 years, the landscape for cycling will change dramatically.
For years, we have collected all our riding data, to track miles, calories, etc. We are not part of the “Strava-crowd” and use the Elemnt more like the “steps-counting”, physical-activity-monitoring crowd. Integrating the Wahoo GPS smart bike computers with ebikes can open a different market segment to Wahoo, should they explore it.
For some time, we’ve been able to connect our Wahoo Elemnts to our LvH Bullitt cargo bike with Shimano E8000, but only the Di2 shifting shows gear selection. No power, cadence or speed from the bike’s system.
With no bluetooth or Ant+, our R+M ebikes with Gen 2 Bosch CX cannot connect to the Elemnt at all, and it would be great if all of our ebikes could show data from the bike’s e-assist system. Particularly, to provide “corrected” power and calorie data. That is with and without the bike’s e-assist added in. Bosch is starting to design in the ability to connect to sensors (such as an HRM) on newer systems, but they are not (yet) as adept at it as Wahoo.
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Does it bother anyone that all of the Elemnt Bolt marketing photos show a crisp white screen background, but the actual device has a cheap unappealing LCD green coloured background?
Its the sole reason pushing me towards the Edge 130, after having returned my Edge 530 due to the massive bugs.
Hey DCR–thank you for your review(s) you’ve really helped my buying process.
I have the same Canyon Stem as you and wanted to mount my bolt to it–what mount are you using in the photo of it on your stem? The stem mount in the box wasn’t flat enough for my stem and would be an awkward fit.
Note: There’s a problem that several users have had with respect to Bolt maintaining connections via BT since the update. I’ve had mine for years, and am now getting constant drops w/r/t power, and it will not maintain BT connection to the iphone to send texts, etc to the screen.
It’snot the PM because it works fine in zwift connecting thru the phone.
There are several discussions of this problem on the google groups page.
I would not recommend buying this unit right now. It’s a complete crapshoot.
Will my iPhone 5sstill work with my Wahoo Tickr please.
Here in Canada, we are getting screwed once again: the Stealth edition is 20$CAD more expensive than the “regular” edition.
Bolt is ‘Out of Stock’ everywhere.
Hi,
how can i delete the training data from the Wahoo Element Bolt. I hope someone can help me.
Thanks
Hello,
Can you confirm if the Heart Rate Monitor H10 (Polar) works and is compatible with this Elemnt Bolt (Wahoo)?
Thanks
Yes, no issues there.
Hi,
Question about ebike integration with a Wahoo Roam. You mentioned in your article that data transmitted from Ebike to Wahoo includes ‘miles’. Doesnt the distance come from Wahoo GPS? Or does the ebike overwrite that?
Also is there a way for Wahoo to show rider power or is it motor power which is shown?
Thank you so much.
Oh no. My Bolt just die. Bad timing…
@DCR Any news about a Bolt (or roam) successor? Would you buy a used one until there will be a new device?
Thx
Andreas
Same question from my side. Bolt is about to die. Sensors start to drop and some more issues. Any rumors about a new bolt? It has been on the market for a while now