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Week in Review–July 30th, 2017

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The Week in Review is a collection of both all the goodness I’ve written during the past week around the internet, as well as a small pile of links I found interesting – generally endurance sports related. I’ve often wondered what to do with all of the coolness that people write, and while I share a lot of it on Twitter and Facebook, this is a better forum for sending it on to y’all. Most times these different streams don’t overlap, so be on the lookout at all these places for good stuff!

So with that, let’s get into the action!

DCRainmaker.com posts in the past week:

Here’s all the goodness that ended up on the main page of DCRainmaker.com this past week:

Sunday: Week in Review–July 23rd, 2017
Sunday: Tour de France 2017- The Finish in Paris
Monday: 5 Random Things I Did This Weekend
Tuesday: Best Bike Computer 2017: Garmin Edge 520 vs Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT
Thursday: DCR Facebook Live Q&A Tomorrow –July 28th!
Sunday: In case ya missed it: DCR Live Q&A Recording Available

In general, this week would definitely be categorized as a ‘prep week’ ahead of a busy week. It’ll actually flip-flop like this for the next 3-4 weeks till Eurobike. August is gonna be full of goods!

Sports Tech Deals This Week:

Below is the current list of deals in the sports tech realm.

ProductSale PriceAmazonOther siteSale Notes
Amazon Echo Dot - 35% off!$38We've got a couple of these, both at home, and the office, and mostly just use it to play music for the kids. I don't have a specific need to pickup another one this year, but it's kinda incredible what kind of technology they can pack into that price.
Amazon Echo Dot - 53% off$18I use these around the studio and home - and for $18, it's kinda incredible what kind of technology they can pack into that price.
Apple Airpods (2nd Gen) - $50 off
$159
$99⚡⚡ This is the lowest price AirPods have ever been - this is solid! I use AirPods primarily when I'm travelling just to listen in airports, planes, etc... I don't tend to use these for workouts due to them falling out. Also, with the wireless charging case for $50 off. Personally, I just use the basic model.
Apple Airpods Pro - $80 off!
$249
$169⚡⚡ This is the lowest AirPods Pro has ever been, even lower than the Amazon Prime Day Deals. ***NOTE: YOU MUST ADD IT TO YOUR CART TO SEE THE $169 SALE PRICE****
Apple Watch SE - $50 off
$279
$229This is the first time we've seen the Apple Watch SE on sale, and $50 off is a heck of a solid deal considering the far more expensive Apple Watch Series tends to only be on sale for $15-$25 off at a time.
Apple Watch Series 3 (38mm) - HOLY COW DISCOUNT!
$169-$179
$119⚡⚡⚡ Holy cow, this is an incredible deal for the Apple Watch Series 3, $119USD - it's never been anywhere near this low. This is the lowest price we've ever seen for the Apple Watch Series 3. While the Series 6 is the new one, the Series 3 has almost all the same features (and still gets all the updates). It's dipped a few times to $169.
Apple Watch Series 6 - (40mm)- $50 Off
$399/$499 (cellular)
$349This is now the best deal we've seen on the Apple Watch Series 6.
Apple iPad - Latest Model 8th Gen (32GB) - 10% off$299I use my iPad primarily for TrainerRoad as well as Zwift when not with a larger display. I also occasionally use it for other apps, namely The SufferFest - but I pretty much test every smart trainer app on it. This is the latest iPad that was just announced barely two weeks ago, so not too bad to see it on sale already (US AMAZON DEAL ONLY).
Apple iPad - Latest Model 8th Gen (64GB) - $64 off!$334I use my iPad primarily for TrainerRoad as well as Zwift when not with a larger display. I also occasionally use it for other apps, namely The SufferFest - but I pretty much test every smart trainer app on it. This is the latest iPad that was just announced barely two weeks ago, so not too bad to see it on sale already (US AMAZON DEAL ONLY).
DJI Mavic Mini - 10% off
$499 ($549 combo)
$359
DJI OSMO Action (Action Cam) - Normally $329
$349
$199⚡ This is a very solid price for the DJI OSMO Action, and it's a very strong first contender from DJI to compete with the Hero 7 Black (realistically, except for the dual-screen, it simply doesn't compete with the Hero 8 or Hero 9). I really like a lot of elements on the OSMO Action, but especially the dual-screen. Check out my full review for comparative thoughts. While I would have said that maybe we'd see a new OSMO Action sometime this past spring (an annual refresh cycling), I'm pretty sure COVID19 has killed any chance of that happening for a while.
FORM Swim Goggles (with heads-up display) - $20 off$179⚡ We don't often see deals on the FORM swim goggle (last Black Friday was the last time). So if you're looking to pick this up, this is the time to do so!
Fitbit ACE 2 Activity Tracker for Kids - $20 Off$49
Fitbit Charge 4 - 33% off!
$149
$99⚡ This just came out earlier this year, so this is a pretty solid deal for sure!
Fitbit Inspire 2 - 30% off
$99
$69
Fitbit Sense - $50 off!
$329
$279This is the first time we've seen the brand new Fitbit Sense on sale. Not a bad deal at all!
Fitbit Versa 2 - $50 off$129⚡ If you don't need the new features of the Versa 3 (of which, there are almost none except for built-in GPS), then this is a great option.
Garmin Edge 1030 - $150 off!
$499
$399-$469⚡ This is a pretty solid deal for this unit, especially since it's getting a number of the recently announced 1030 Plus features later this year. Note: This price keeps floating up/down hourly.
Garmin Edge 530 Cycling GPS - $50 off!
$299
$249⚡ This is the the lowest price we've ever seen on the Edge 530, and only from a handful of retailers. This is one of the main units I use for my day to day riding and testing. It's also an B&H specific sale and is highly unlikely to last long (B&H is the largest photo gear retailer out there, but also does a strong Apple & Garmin side business).
Garmin Edge 830 Cycling GPS - 8% off!
$399
$369⚡It's a rare day to see the Garmin Edge 830 on sale - so rare to date in fact that I don't have any record of it being on sale previously. This appears to be an Amazon-specific sale, so I don't expect it to last long.
Garmin FR935 - $100-$200 off
$499
$269⚡ Sure, it's not the latest edition, but the FR935 is the staple of many triathletes and runners, and it still an incredible solid watch. We saw this a bit lower last month on Amazon Prime Day ($239). Also, I say $100-$200 off, because the 'base' price fluctuates a bit these days. Sometimes retail is $399 sometimes $499.
Garmin Fenix 5X - 50% off
$599
$299⚡ Down to $299 is a substantial deal for the Fenix 5X (non-Plus), so don't expect much in the way of major firmware updates. But still, at that price it's solid - incredible really. Note: The Fenix 5X in this series actually does include mapping, whereas the other Fenix 5 (non-Plus) units don't have it.
Garmin Fenix 6 Series - $150 all models
$599-$1,149
$150 off⚡⚡ This deal is back! This is a great deal that showed up last spring, and it also includes the newly launched Fenix 6/6S Solar units from this past summer
Garmin Forerunner 235 Running Watch
$249
$119⚡Look, this isn't the latest generation watch (the FR245 is, released last year). But, in terms of a damn-solid running watch, the FR235 absolutely fits the bill. You'll find it on many runners wrists in running races (ya know, once those happen again).
Garmin Forerunner 245 - $50 off
$299/$349
$249Both the Forerunner 245 is on sale for $50 off. While not a huge sale, it's actually the lowest we've seen either product priced to date.
Garmin Forerunner 245 Music - $50 off$299Both the Forerunner 245 Music is sale for $50 off. While not a huge sale, it's actually the lowest we've seen either product priced to date. The FR245 Music supports Spotify, Amazon Music, and other streaming platforms.
Garmin Forerunner 45/45S - $50 off
$199
$149If you're looking for a runners focused watch, there's no better deal on the market than this. Period. The FR45 basically packs all the features of the previous generation FR235...just now in the FR45 series. Seriously, this is a solid deal.
Garmin Forerunner 645 Music - 51% off
$399/$449 (with music)
$219This isn't a bad price per se, but for $20 more you'll get so much more watch out of the FR935 deal. However, that doesn't include music, whereas this FR645 Music Deal Does. Also, the 51% off is per list, but realistically we're talking about $70 off normal prices.
Garmin Forerunner 735XT
$349
$169⚡ If one were to have a 'Yo mama' joke in here somewhere, the FR735XT has been around longer than Yo Mama, however, at $169...that's compelling if you just simply want a basic triathlon watch that still supports more sports features than most of its competitors.
Garmin Forerunner 935 Tri Bundle- $100 Off$399⚡ Sure, it's not the latest edition, but the FR935 is the staple of many triathletes and runners, and it still an incredible solid watch. This bundle includes the HRM-TRI and HRM-SWIM chest straps.
Garmin Forerunner 945 - $80 off
$599/599EUR
$519This is a good deal, in fact, the best deal on the FR945 we've seen in 2020. I don't anticipate this lasting long
Garmin Forerunner 945 Bundle (with HRM-TRI & HRM-SWIM) - $80 off$669This is a good deal, in fact, the best deal on the FR945 we've seen in 2020. I don't anticipate this lasting long
Garmin Foreruuner 35 - $50 off
$169
$99If you're looking for a solid budget GPS running watch, it's hard to go wrong here. Sure, it's a few years old now, but it'll track your race just fine and upload to Garmin Connect and all the other Strava-like sites as well.
Garmin HRM-DUAL (ANT+/Bluetooth Smart Strap) - $15 off
$69
$56⚡ This is one of my go-to straps these days (ANT+ & two concurrent BLE connections). It's floated on and off being on sale, but this is about the lowest we've seen it.
Garmin HRM-PRO - 23% off!
$129
$99⚡ If you're in the market for the HRM-PRO, this seems like a no brainer to pickup on sale. Especially since it just came out and isn't actually on the 'approved' list of Garmin sale items, so I suspect this is a short-term Amazon one-off. Take it while its there!
Garmin Instinct - $80 off
$299
$149⚡ Sure, the new Solar variants came out this summer with a few new features, but at their core the Instincts are mostly the same. Still, $149 is the lowest price the Instinct has ever been at.
Garmin Instinct Solar - $100 off
$399/$449
$299This is the first time we've seen a deal on the Garmin Instinct Solar, and the best deal I expect we'll see for a while.
Garmin Magnetless Sensors Cadence/Speed Bundle - 24% off$53This bundle includes both the dual ANT+/BLE Speed & Cadence sensors (V2), and is notable because the speed sensor not only transmits like any other, but also records your rides even when you don't have a bike computer/watch paired to it - making it perfect for commuter bikes. Both sensors are fully compatible with basically every app/watch/bike computer out there.
Garmin Speed Sensor V2 - 18% off!$32This is Garmin's latest ANT+/Bluetooth Smart speed sensor, but notably, it's also one that can record your rides without being connected to a bike computer, making it perfect for tracking mileage on a commuter bike. I'm super tempted to pickup a few of these and outfit all our commuter/cargo bikes for 2021 to see what the mileage/breakdown by trip/etc looks like at the end of the year. Yes, I'm a geek.
Garmin Swim 2 - $50 off
$249
$199This is only the 2nd time we've seen the Garmin Swim 2 on sale. And as part of my in-depth review I found it easily the most accurate openwater swim watch GPS-wise I've ever tested. Which, is good, since most pools seem to be closed these days. :-/
Garmin Tactix Charlie - $150 off$599The Tactix Charlie is essentially a Fenix geared towards military folks (Amazon Prime Days)
Garmin Venu GPS Smartwatch - $100 off!
$299
$249This is about the lowest we've seen yet for the Garmin Venu GPS, which includes an AMOLED display as well as music (even Spotify offline). Solid deal.
Garmin Vivoactive 3
$129
$129⚡ Obviously this is the previous edition, but dang, it's still a good price for a great little GPS watch. This has mostly been on sale at this price range for a while now, however, I've included it in the list merely because if you're looking for a deal then this is probably one of the best deals out there.
Garmin Vivoactive 3 Music - $50 off
$169
$149⚡⚡ Very solid deal, and remember, this includes Spotify support too!
Garmin Vivoactive 4/4S - $65 off
$299
$235This is Garmin's current offering to compete with the Apple Watch series (alongside the Garmin Venu), and this is a good price, though, not as low as we saw for Amazon Prime Day at $199.
Garmin Vivofit Jr. 3 - 25% off$59Sale includes all Vivofit Jr 3 variants.
Garmin inReach Mini Satellite Communicator (2-way) - $100 off$249⚡ This is a great deal on this unit which can send messages back and forth when there's no cellular service. It also connects to the Garmin Edge devices plus the Forerunner & Fenix devices for sending urgent messages sans-cell signals
GoPro Hero 8 Black Camera Bundle - $70 off!$279-$299⚡ The Hero 8 is still a great camera, so if you don't need the extra bits of the newer Hero 9, this saves you a $100 in comparison. Plus, this includes an extra battery, shorty stick/tripod, head mount, and 32GB MicroSD Card. Note: Price seems to fluctuate a bit between $279 and $299.
GoPro Hero 9 Black - $50 off$399⚡ This is actually the first time we've seen the Hero 9 on sale. Note that if you're a GoPro Plus Subscriber, then it's a bit cheaper at $349 from GoPro directly, but otherwise, it's $449.
Google Nest Mesh WiFi Router - 18% off$139These are the WiFi mesh access points I use both at home and the DCR Cave. Love them - I don't need to dork with them, they just work.
Insta360 One R Action Cam - 15% off$466The entire lineup of Insta360 One R action cams are 15% off, including the 1" and 360 variants. Overall it's a good cam with good picture clarity (I've mainly used the 1" 5.3K variant), but I find the software really lets it down.
Jaybird Vista Wireless Headphones - 44% off!
$179
$99⚡ I like these headphones quite a bit, and tested them a while back. A very solid deal for sure here!
Kinetic Smart Control Trainer Resistance Unit - 20% off$279So this is a smart trainer (ANT+/BLE) resistance unit that fits on *ANY* Kinetic trainer frame, even those ones that are like 15 years old. It's a great way to turn an old 'dumb trainer' Kinetic frame into a new smart trainer frame - especially for 20% off.
Lacie 2TB & 4TB Ruggedized USB Drives - 27% off$109These are the drives I primarily use for large piles of storage with my laptop and daily use before offloading to a file server. I also sometimes edit videos off these too (though, for multiple 4K streams in video it can be a tiny bit slower than SSD drives). But still, definitely recommend these.
Lezyne Mega-C Cycling GPS - 33% off!
$199USD
$133This is a great deal for the Mega-C, which is also a great full-featured bike computer. It's got full Bluetooth/ANT+ sensor support, the ability to give turn by turn directions, and plenty more.
Manfrotto Compact Tripod (MKCOMPACTACN) - 34% off
$69
$51This is my main tripod I use day in and day out, and during all my travelling. It's probably got 500,000-800,000 miles of travel on it, and it still looks like new - despite the fact that I treat it like crap. It's out in the salt spray waves often, in the mud and rain, etc... It just rocks. I just bought another one to have one permanently setup in the studio (+ one for traveling).
NPE CABLE - $5 off!
$59
$44This sensor is rarely on sale...so take any cash off ya can! Note the base sale price is 10% off, and then you'll add coupon code THE5KRUNNER to get another 10% off that price.
NPE Heartbeatz - $10 off!$39This little pod will re-transmit out your Apple watch heart rate as standard ANT+/Bluetooth Smart, Note the base sale price is 10% off, and then you'll add coupon code THE5KRUNNER to get another 10% off that price.
NPE Runn Treadmill Sensor for Zwift - 19% off$80This sensor is rarely on sale, and my favorite for treadmill use. Love it. Note the base sale price is 10% off, and then you'll add coupon code THE5KRUNNER to get another 10% off that price.
Nest Cam Indoors - 23% off$99We have more Nest cam's than I can count. No really, we have half a dozen at the DCR Cave alone, plus more at home. We love them. Nest Cam's really only go on sale about once per year.
Nest Cam Outdoors - 10% off$185We use one of these and so far after I think just about three years, it's working great for us. Love it, and works better than trying to stick a regular Nest Cam out the window (since it'll reflect both during daytime and at night with the IR sensor).
Nurvv Running Insoles - 30% off
$299
$199This is a pretty new product, just launched this past fall that sits inside your shoe and even has GPS built into the pod sidewalls. I'm still in the midst of testing it currently, and expect a review sometime in December.
Panasonic LUMIX GH5 4K Digital Camera - $700 off!This is my main shooting cameras for video (they make great stills too, but I mainly got this for video), and I've bought two of them. $700 off is an awesome deal. In my case I got the kit. And in case it's even more of an endorsement, both GPLAMA & DesFit also use this camera too!
Polar H10 Chest Strap (Dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart) - 19% off
$89
$72This is a great dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart (with two Bluetooth Smart connections) chest strap that you'll often find me using as a reference strap in heart rate sensor testing. We only tend to see deals on it around Black Friday, always topping out around 20%.
Polar Ignite GPS - $45 off!
$229
$183This is a very solid deal for this unit, and about the lowest we've seen it. Note that the price varies slightly based on the exact color band you select. But either way, it's a great deal.
PowerBeats Pro Wireless Sport Headphones - $75 off!
$249
$174⚡⚡ These are my daily driver headphones that I use for all my trainer rides, and anything else sport related. While they're not perfect (namely the charging case), it's what I keep going back to every day because of the seamless Apple ecosystem integration (iPad/Apple TV/iOS/Mac).
Samsung Galaxy Buds True Wireless Earbuds - 39% off$79This are obviously super popular, and having them be 31% off ought to make them even more popular. Wireless Charging Case included.
Samsung Galaxy Watch 3 - $60 off$339This is a pretty new watch, so $60 off is a solid discount!
Samsung Galaxy Watch Active 2 - 28% off$179
SanDisk 1TB Extreme PRO Portable External SSD - 39% off$169This is the high speed drive I use to store the footage I'm actively video editing, so that I can edit it on both my iMac at the office, and then my MacBook when travelling or at home.
SanDisk 256GB Extreme PRO SD Cards - 43% off$56I use the SanDisk Extreme Pro SD Cards exclusively for all my video/photo shooting on my Panasonic GH5 and Nikon cameras (video and stills), including up to 6K recording with the GH5. I've mostly used 128's, but more and more lately I'm filling up cards faster with higher bitrates, so this sale is gonna have me pickup a bunch of the 256GB ones instead. The 128GB/512GB/1TB ones are also on sale too viathe same link.
SanDisk 256GB MicroSD Card - 38% off!$29I use this card in both 128GB and 256GB variety, and it's perfect for all my drones and action cams, easily recording 4K/60 and 5K/30, as well as 5.7K without trouble. I often pickup these cards when on sale like this, so I have them for later in the year when not on sale.
Sonos One Smart Speaker - $50 off$149I use a blend of SONOS speakers at home and at the office. Love them, and the sales are few and far between! I use the microphone-less version (Sonos One SL), which is also on sale and a bit cheaper. Same internals, just without a microphone.
Stages Dash L10 - $75$75⚡ This is a fantastic price on this unit. This is a full featured power-meter supporting cycling GPS unit, packed with structured-workout features. Seriously, nothing comes close at this price.
Stages Dash L50 - $90 off!
$299
$209The Stages Dash M50 & L50 are both 30% off, in addition, all Stages Dash accessories are 30% off.
Stages Dash M50 - $75 off!
$249
$174⚡ The Stages Dash M50 & L50 are both 30% off, in addition, all Stages Dash accessories are 30% off.
Stryd V2 Running Pod - $20 off$199Stryd pretty much only puts their items on once a year at Black Friday, so if you're in the market for one, now's the time.
Suunto 5 GPS Multisport Watch - 35% off
$329
$229⚡ A very strong deal for this complete multisport watch that I really like. Well nailed on price here.
Suunto 7 Wear OS Watch - 30% off
$499
$349⚡ This is now the lowest price this watch has ever been at - and definitely a price to pick it up if you were in the market for it.
Suunto 9 - 46% off!
$599 (non-baro is $499)
$346This is about a good a deal as we've ever seen in the US for the Suunto 9.
Withings Body WiFi Scale - 20% off
$59
$47I've always had a soft spot in my heart for the Withings WiFi Scale, they were the first in this category a gazillion years ago, and frankly, they're still basically the best in terms of partnerships and simplicity. It just works.
Withings Body+ WiFi Scale - 30% off$69I've long been a fan of the Withings WiFi scales, especially since they can connect/push data to so many platforms, including Zwift! Note that the Body+ simply includes more data.
Withings/Nokia Health Body Cardio WiFI Scale - 20% off
$149
$119This is the highest end scale that Withings makes, which includes additional metrics - specifically heart rate. Though, honestly, I'm not sure why you need to know your heart rate standing on your scale.

New this week include $20 off the GoPro Hero5 Session, and 20% off GoPro accessories (except Karma accessories for some bizarre reason.)

Also of note is that the Wahoo ELEMNT rebate ends tomorrow, as does the $100 off the Edge 1000.  And the Cycliq sale ends Tuesday.

YouTube Videos I Published:

Here’s some YouTube goodness that I published this past week, don’t forget to subscribe!

Well…no YouTube this time, but on Facebook instead (you don’t need an account to watch).

Stuff that I found interesting around the interwebs:

Here’s a not-so-small smattering of all the random things that I stumbled on while doing my civic duty to find the end of the Internet.

1) GoPro’s Tour de France 2017 Final Edit: They did a bunch of mini-edits throughout the Tour (see the full playlist here), but here’s the final edit for this year’s Tour.  It’s a bit different in tone than past years, but more of a storyline this time.  I saw the small team of these guys around often, and they hustled their ass off on every stage.

2) Wait, TomTom’s dead too? This is definitely not the best month for sports tech.  With Recon bowing out last week, insinuations from TomTom’s own investor call says they may be exiting the sports tech portion of their business.  This would definitely be a blow to the inexpensive end of the market (for which TomTom thrives).  Their challenge though is gaining interest in North America, alongside finding ways to get mainstream/tech press excited about their products (which again, are incredibly good values for the prices).

3) Fitbit’s app store will be based on Pebble’s SDK: No real surprise here, but nice to see the confirmation of it.

4) Chief Commissaire who disqualified Sagan calls for video reviews: Well then, don’t be bringing in logic too fast now!

5) Another look at the tracking airplanes of the Tour de France: I talked a little bit about this during my TdF Dimension Data behind the scenes post, but this video showing the trace of the airplane as it follows the route is pretty darn cool. (via Rodrigo)

6) Tour de France Speed and Distance Trends – 1947 – 2017: Super interesting stuff, from where this race sits as far as overall speed, to overall distance per stage.  Fascinating plots by Alex.

7) Rapha set to go for $262 Million USD! Potential buyers include Aston Martin.  It’ll be interesting to see what it actually goes for though, as this seems a bit…over the top…to me. (Via Race Radio)

8) Suunto sees financial recovery in Q2 compared to Q1: Some interesting tidbits in their just released Q2 financial report, which shows them tracking 7% higher than last year. That’s logical, since last year would have been pre-Spartan, whereby people were waiting for new products.  However, what was most interesting was going back to the Q1 report, which I hadn’t seen before to see the huge hit they took in Q1, being down 27% YoY.  But they’ve done good work in 2017 addressing many of the Spartan shortcomings, and so they’re seeing the results of that.  All of the quarterly reports are available here, including full presentations.  Suunto is categorized as ‘Sports Instruments’.

Sports Technology Software/Firmware Updates This Week:

Each week I quickly highlight some of the new firmware, app, software and website service updates that I see go out. If you’re a sports technology company and release an update – shoot me a quick note (just one-liners are perfect, or Tweet it at me is even better) and I’ll make mention of it here. If I don’t know about it, I won’t be able to post about it. Sound good?  Oh – and if you want to get a head start on things, this page is a great resource for watching Garmin firmware updates.

Garmin VIRB 360 Firmware Update: Improved photo quality, and streaming 4K options (for the co-announced Facebook 4K live streaming functionality).

Garmin Fenix3/Fenix3 HR BETA Firmware Update: Yup, it actually got an update.mostly fixes, though one additional new feature for recording HR data into the files.

Garmin Fenix 5/5S/5X BETA Firmware Updates: A pile of fixes, and some new features.

GoPro Hero5 & Hero5 Session Firmware Update: Adds new QuikStories feature to have autocreated movies ready to go.  Also adds some performance tweaks.

Thanks for reading!

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19 Comments

  1. giorgitd

    Sorry to see negative news about Tom Tom. I’ve been on Garmin for many years, but have almost bought TT just out of curiosity. Products seem solid and the value continues to go up relative to escalating Garmin pricing. Hope that they can find a way forward.

    • the5krunner

      Yep, I think they will find a way forwards.

      As Ray, others (and me) point out the runner/spark IS good and IS good value.

      I don’t think ANYONE who has commented on the TomTom statements knows exactly what products might be the root of the ‘issue’.

      One scenario could be the ‘all the future R&D eggs in the runner/spark basket’ then we might see great things come out of this in 2018 with a runner/spark5

      As Robert (Black?) points out further below, there are still some peripheral bit of functionality that need adding. BUT, as Ray said recently, every user/athlete has similar such peripheral areas of functionality that are important to them. All those little dents of missing functionality add up to a hole in the overall functional offering.

  2. Adriaan

    …question on this Garmin updates…
    Is Garmin done with sw version 9.30.0.0 at 920XT for good? No further updates?
    The sensor settings are really annoying!
    Before starting multi sport activity, all sensors must be enabled. So the device is searching for Speed and Cadence sensor at Swimming leg up to the running leg. And in T1 (after swimming) the device is dropping the connection to HRM-Tri/HRM-Swim, so that one must be reconnected.
    If Garmin exterminated bike profiles, they should set up automatic detection for previously paired sensors and keep those connected till activity is not sent to history…

    • I don’t expect to see any further updates, at least feature updates. Usually you still see some random bug updates here or there, things that might be caught on other platforms and ported back. But at nearly 3 years old, it’s run its course.

    • Adriaan

      Thanks for the answer Ray. And I am sorry for trolling…
      In my opinion, 920XT as a device is much better then 735/935XT together.
      And I got it – it came out 3 years ago.
      But it was and still being used by Pro and hobby triathletes around the globe.
      Nobody found that functionality annoying since then? Or they did and it is just Garmin’s approach to customers?

      Thanks again…and please make a separate section/quick link to the Week in Review series…

    • I think the challenge is that the FR920XT is only better if one likes the larger screen. But if the rectangle screen isn’t ones thing, then I’m not aware of anything it actually does better to be honest.

      Nothing wrong with the FR920XT, as you point out, many triathletes use it. But if we fast forward to a year from now, there will be less triathletes using it and more and more using the Fenix5/FR935/FR735 (which as a lineup are the real successors).

      I do think some people (including myself) found the attempted pairing during the swim (or run to power meters) thing weird – but it never really did anything aside from being an annoyance. Meaning that come the bike it connected properly to sensors, and come the run the same. Not saying Garmin shouldn’t have fixed it, but also just being realistic on what they consider a sunsetted product.

    • Mr T

      It’s interesting. Look at Nike’s Breaking2. All the athletes wear 920xt. There must be something there

    • ekutter

      Adriaan, I’d be interested in knowing what you think is “much better” about the 920 than the 935. I’ve had several friends that won’t switch because of the round screen. I too thought that would be a problem years ago when I got the 620 for running because of the light weight. I quickly grew to love the round face over the rectangular one. Partly because you could put longer fields on the top/bottom for things like time and distance. HR, Cad, Speed fit perfectly side by side in the middle. Add in totally customizable CIQ fields and its even better. And now with the 935/F5 actually having a larger total area than the 920 with a very crisp screen, I can’t imagine going back. And for tri’s, the quick release kit for the 935 is definitely superior, IMO.

  3. Robert

    TomTom could have had it all, the watch had Bluetooth, why not throw in support for a footpod? But the deal breaker for me was it’s restricted intervals. I had the original runner and offloaded it a week later. Had it worked with footpods and had pace targets i wouldn’t own the 3 Polar watches I do now

    • Mr T

      Agree but my issue was the inability to change the screen metrics. It was limited.

      Garmin is pricing itself out of the casual market.

  4. simon

    fenix 3 beta firmware update ! – gasp, wasn’t expecting that. Seems like they broke something on this so they’re promising another one in a week or so

  5. Ryan M.

    Ray,

    Have you gotten to try out the new Beta for Garmin Connect on iOS that has a new My Day view? A huge improvement from the prior layout in my opinion. Have been a fitbit user for my day-to-day tracking as I like to wear a normal watch, and wasn’t a fan of Garmin’s UI, but the new layout could be enough to get me to switch.

  6. Steve Aitken

    Awesome video of the tracking planes from the tour. Another insight into just one of the behind the scenes aspects that we pretty much take for granted. I reckon that the pilots may have grown up as track riders. Fairly hand at turning left…

  7. ZeSweets

    Hero5 Session is actually 20% off ($239.20) on Amazon!

    link to amazon.com

  8. Tim Lambie

    Awesome depth, inspiring, personable and entertaining ecosystem. All the best. Tim

  9. MTB

    New Wahoo Element Mini was released today. Anyone else intrigued?