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Garmin Edge 830 Cycling GPS In-Depth Review

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If you’re looking for new Garmin cycling products – there’s no bigger day than today. The company has just dropped three new products: The Edge 830 (this review), the less expensive Edge 530 (review here), and a set of new dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart Speed & Cadence sensors (review coming up momentarily). While it’d be easy to assume the two new Edge units are merely incremental updates, the reality seems to be quite different. Sure, the user interface shares a number of similarities – but under the covers there’s simply a boatload of new features.

The new units dive deep into both the road bike realm and mountain bike territory with new functions that I suspect both crowds will find useful. For mountain bikers there’s new metrics to capture everything from how well you ride a downhill trail to how far your jumps are. Meanwhile, on-road riders will likely be more inclined to take advantage of the deeper training features and functions like heat and altitude acclimation tracking. But so many of the features cross-over between both camps that it’s somewhat silly to try and definitively assign target audiences to all of them.

As always, I aim to detail the good, bad, and ugly about a given device. Note that this unit is a media loaner/test device and will very shortly go back to Garmin, like all other loaners. I do not accept any money (or even permit advertising) from any company I review. If you find this review useful, hit up the links at the end of the post to support the site.

If you’re sitting here trying to determine how many cups of coffee you’ll need to get through all three in-depth reviews, you’ll find comfort in knowing that the Edge 530 and 830 are incredibly similar, with only a couple of unique features. So you can likely read one review fully, and then just skim the other one.

What’s new:

Time to jump straight into all the newness on the Edge 830. And this time around I’ve got 18 new things on the Edge 830 (compared to the Edge 820 primarily), which outlines each of these features in as efficient a manner as I can possibly explain them – complete with pretty bike footage.

But if you’re more of a metro-textual person, then I’ve put together the below list of words. Note that there are other tidbits that I probably haven’t accounted for here – for example in certain menus or such where tiny things may have changed, but the below consolidates everything into one cohesive list of things you care about. For this listing I’m using the Edge 820 as the baseline for what’s considered changed.

– Increased display size 13% from 2.3” to 2.6”
– Increased battery life from 15 to 20 hours, and to 48 hours in battery saver mode
– Significantly increased processor speed: Results in much faster route calculation (see videos)
– Added Garmin Heatmaps: This follows what Edge 1030 had, included in maps routing on unit
– Added ClimbPro: Automatically shows how much distance/elevation remains for each climb on route
– Added Mountain Bike Metrics: Shows Grit, Flow, and Jump details on both unit and Garmin Connect
– Added Trailforks maps to unit: Added global Trailforks data/maps to baked-in data on unit (no downloads required)
– Added ForkSight: Automatically shows mountain bike trail options when you pause at fork in trail
– Added Heat Acclimation: Will automatically take into account heat/humidity for performance/recovery metrics
– Added Altitude Acclimation: Will automatically take into account (high) elevation for performance/recovery metrics
– Added Training Plan API support: This includes a redesigned structured workout execution page
– Added Hydration/Nutrition Smart Alerts: When using a course/route, it’ll automatically figure out how much water/calories you should be taking
– Added Hydration/Nutrition Tracking: It allows you to record this data in ride summary screens and log it on Garmin Connect
– Added Edge Battery Pack Support: You can now attach the Garmin integrated battery pack to the Edge (you can still use generic USB power too)
– Added Bluetooth Smart sensor support: You can now pair Bluetooth Smart sensors like heart rate, power, and cadence
– Added Performance Power Curve: This shows you your mean maximal power over different durations/time frames (like many training sites)
– Added Bike Alarm Feature: Used for cafes/bathroom stops, emits loud alarm if bike is moved
– Added ‘Find my Edge’ feature: Automatically record exact GPS location on your phone if Edge is disconnected (in case unit pops off)
– Added Training Plan Weather/Gear Tips: Basically tells you to HTFU when it’s cold out
– Changed user interface bits: Tweaked user interface, which might take some people a few rides to get used to (or just myself)

Got all that? Good. Now usually I do include any ‘negative’ new things (such as features removed), but I haven’t found any downsides to the new unit yet, or anything that’s been removed. It’s fairly rare for Garmin to remove features from unit to unit, though sometimes we see unintended consequences of other additions. Either way, I haven’t found any of those yet in my riding (or asking lots of questions). Of course, that’s separate from GPS/Altimeter/etc accuracy, which I cover in a separate section below.

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So what are the key differences to the Edge 530 you might ask (since this costs $100 more)? No problem, here ya go:

– Edge 530 doesn’t have a touchscreen
– Edge 530 can’t do address-specific routing, whereas on the Edge 830 you can enter a street address
– Edge 530 doesn’t have a searchable point of interest database (hotels/food/train stations/etc), though some of these POI’s do appear on the map (but not as many in my experience)
– Edge 530 has four additional buttons on it since it has no touchscreen

Ultimately, it really comes down to the touchscreen, and then some user interface bits in using touch screen versus buttons. Feature-wise, the biggie is that the Edge 830 can route to a specific address whereas the Edge 530 you have to drag the cursor over that point. Both support pre-planned routes/courses equally. Personally, I’d struggle to remember even 2-3 times in the last 5-8 years where I’ve routed to a specific address or POI on the Edge series. Virtually everything I do is course or point driven.

With everything new and different all outlined, let’s dive into actually using the darn thing.

Oh wait – one final thingy – a good thingy! Got an Edge 1030 already? You’ll get almost every new feature you see above via firmware update to your Edge 1030. The only notable exception being that the pre-loaded mountain bike Trailforks maps are not there, due to licensing reasons (as Garmin licenses that from Trailforks). However, Garmin says the remaining features will show up in a firmware update over the coming months.

Size & Weight Comparisons:

Before we dive into all the details (or even the basics), let’s just do a quick size check. Here’s a disastrously big lineup of mostly current bike computers, all aligned on their base to a chunk of wood:

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From left to right: Garmin Edge 130, Garmin Edge 520/520Plus/820 (identical case size), Polar M460, Wahoo BOLT, Garmin 530/830 (identical case size), Wahoo ELEMNT, Wahoo ELEMNT ROAM, Hammerhead Karoo, Garmin Edge 1030, Sigma ROX 12

The same order is below as well:

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And then, just to zoom in on some of the more applicable units close up. Left to right: ELEMNT BOLT, Edge 530/830, ELEMNT, ELEMNT ROAM, and Hammerhead Karoo.

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What’s that? You want weights too?!? Ok, out with the trusty scale:

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Ok, your Brady Bunch moment is over. Now for realz, let’s get onto using it.

(Note: This comparison section was added after the Wahoo ROAM was released.)

The Basics:

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First up I’ll walk through all the basics of the device itself. If you’re familiar with a Garmin Edge already, you’ll find things haven’t changed a ton here – depending on which version you’re coming from. You’re effectively seeing much of the user interface from the Edge 1030 brought down into this smaller form factor. In fact, I mostly struggle to find any reason to get the Edge 1030 now except larger screen size (which, is a perfectly fine reason).

On the Edge 830 you’ve got two main front buttons that are used for starting/stopping, and creating a lap. That’s the only thing these buttons are used for – allowing you to always press them no matter what wonky corner of the menus you might be in.

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I know that some folks would have preferred Garmin shift these buttons to the top of the unit, since some out-front mounts make it a tight fit for gloves. Unfortunately, they remain in the same place as past units. Personally, I’ve never had any issues myself with that placement – but it seems to vary a lot on which mounts your using and in some cases your bike setup as well.

Next, on the left side you’ve got a single button, which is primarily used for powering on/off the unit.

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Of course, the screen itself is a full touchscreen. Garmin says they’ve learned from some of the troubles with the Edge 820 screen and that this should be improved, and indeed, I’ve had zero touch-screen specific issues on the Edge 830 (even in rain).  Though, one has to keep in mind that the Edge 820 touchscreen issues were mostly manufacturing related, something Garmin solved over time (and even in earlier batches, it was unit to unit as to whether your unit was impacted). Still, with my sample size of two (which doesn’t mean much), I haven’t encountered anything in the last month (not a single instance of touch screen hell).

Back on the home menu, you’ll find things are roughly divided up into three camps: Navigation, Training, and ‘Everything else’ (pressing those three little lines).

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This is one area where Garmin has spent a bit of time sorting things, but there’s still room for improvement. For example, the ‘Training’ section doesn’t contain the new ‘My Stats’ section, which in turn contains all the actual training load related bits. As the meme goes ‘You had one job!’, and in this case, it would be to put the training stats in the training section.

In any event, if you swipe down from the top you’ll get access to widgets as well as overall system status. This includes things like sensor status and GPS status. The Edge 830 joins the rest of Garmin’s 2019 devices in using Sony GPS chipsets in lieu of previous MediaTek chipsets. The reason here being to significantly increase battery life, a change almost the entire sports tech industry has made in the last 12 months (Polar, Suunto, COROS, and undoubtedly others). But more on GPS accuracy a bit later on. In Garmin’s implementation, they support both GPS+GLONASS as well as GPS+GALILEO, plus of course normal GPS.  You can configure this differently on each activity profile you create/use.

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Speaking of activity profiles, these are used to customize settings for a particular type of riding. For example you might have one for road riding and another for mountain biking. Or yet another for racing that’s slimmed down a bit. You can customize your various data pages in here, as well as automatic things like auto lap or alerts, plus nutrition/hydration info, Strava segment alerts, and so on. There’s no practical limit to the number of custom data pages you can have, and you can have up to 12 data fields per page. Here’s a sampler platter of some of the settings within a given activity profile (and you can make a boatload of profiles too):

I’m somewhat simplistic in that I’ve just got one for road ride, one for mountain biking, and one for racing. I never bother to delete the indoor one, but I also never use it either (it just automatically disables GPS).

As with all of Garmin’s recent devices, activity profiles don’t define sensors. Instead, those are done across the entire device and span all activity profiles. This is called the ‘sensor pool’, and basically means that you pair your sensor once to the device, and then it automatically connects to it when the sensor wakes up (such as spinning your wheel with a speed sensor on it, or spinning your crankset with a power meter on it). It works well, and continues to be the case here as well. The one major difference for the Edge 830 is that it supports Bluetooth Smart sensors (to match almost every other Garmin devices since 2017).

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In total you can now pair all the following sensors on the Edge 830:

Cadence (ANT+ or Bluetooth Smart)
Edge Remote (ANT+)
eBike (ANT+)
Heart Rate (ANT+ or Bluetooth Smart)
Lights (ANT+)
Indoor Trainer (ANT+ FE-C, though paired in a different spot)
Radar (ANT+)
Power Meter (ANT+ or Bluetooth Smart)
Shifting (ANT+)
Shimano Di2 (ANT)
Speed/Cadence (ANT+ or Bluetooth Smart)
Speed (ANT+ or Bluetooth Smart)
Varia Vision (ANT+)
VIRB (ANT+)

Also, if you’ve got special sensors like aero sensors or tire pressure sensors, then individual Connect IQ apps can take care of those as well – adding even more craziness than you can log. In my case I’ve paired a blend of sensors, mostly ANT+ power meters/trainers, cadence sensors, speed sensors, and both ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart heart rate straps.

With everything all setup, you’re ready to start riding. To do so simply tap the main ‘Ride’ button on the home screen, which gets you to your data pages where you can press the start button to start the ride (recording):

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If you forget to press start, don’t worry, the unit will warn you that you’re moving but not recording (since it’ll still show your data). But once it is recording you can swipe through the data pages using the touch screen (or auto-scroll if you want to do it automatically). Here’s a quick collection of some of the screens:

You can also configure Live Tracking, which will share your location with friends/family/social media networks per whoever you’ve selected:

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This is also leveraged for Group Tracking, which enables you to follow friends on a given group ride, and then send quick messages to those friends mid-ride. Regrettably, I lack any friends to test this feature out.

Note that there’s also incident detection on both the Edge 530 and Edge 830, in case you crash. That doesn’t depend on Live Tracking, but does depend on authorizing certain friends/family to receive notifications in case you crash. If it does trigger, you have a number of seconds to disable the notification (in the event of a false positive). I haven’t had any false-positive events on either the Edge 530 or Edge 830 units.

To create manual laps you’ll press the lower left ‘lap’ button, which in turn marks a manual lap for both the lap summary screen as well as in the file that Garmin Connect and 3rd party apps can access later, which is ideal for doing any sort of analysis.

Finally, once done you’ll press the ‘Stop’ button on the right corner, which pauses the recording. Then press Save to save it. You’ll then get ride summary data:

Once you’ve saved the ride it’s near immediately synced via Bluetooth to your phone, as well as via WiFi if in range of WiFi networks that you’ve configured. The data is sent to Garmin Connect (online), and then onwards to any 3rd party platforms you’ve configured such as Strava, Xert or Training Peaks.  You can also view the stats of your ride on the Garmin Connect Mobile app as well:

Or, you can view it on Garmin Connect (desktop/web) too. Here’s one of my Edge 830 rides if you want to dig in further:

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Lastly there’s Garmin’s new Bike Alarm feature. This is in addition to the ‘Find my Edge’ function that I talk about within the mountain biking section. But since we just finished a ride, I’ll explain ‘Bike Alarm’ here, which is designed primarily for post-ride café settings, as well as parking your bike outside a bathroom somewhere. The goal being that you leave your Edge device on your bike and then if someone moves/touches it, it sounds an alarm. It uses the internal accelerometers to do so.

The setup for the feature is buried super deep in the menus. But once you’ve got it set up, you don’t have to configure it each time. Instead, you’ll access it from the widget menu up top, plus a few swipes depending on which widget page you started on. Personally, I actually prefer the Edge 530 method of just long-holding the left button. In any case, here’s that menu on the Edge 830:

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Once you’ve armed it, you’ll get a 5-second count-down, and then it notifies you that it’s armed.  If you touch the bike, the alarm triggers, which…sounds hideous (in a good attention-drawing way).

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Additionally, if your phone is within range (and it probably is), you’ll get a notification there which would also show up on any smartwatches you might have on. You’ll get a notification when you arm it, when it’s triggered, and when it’s disarmed:

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I demo the whole thing as part of the video up above in the ‘What’s new’ section.

Admittedly when I first heard of the feature (without specific context on how to use it), I thought it was pretty stupid. But now that I’ve seen how it works and the exact use case, it actually makes a ton of sense. There’s been countless times in the last 3-4 months (especially on group rides) where I’ll stop at a café with my bike just barely visible. Given the goal is to enjoy being with friends, you might not always be paying attention. Between the audible alert and smartphone/watch notification – I would know immediately. Works great, I like it.

And at that point, we’ve got the basics covered and are ready to dive into all the cool newness – divided up into the various areas.

Mountain Bike Features:

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It was a year ago that Garmin announced their partnership with Trailforks, primarily visible through a Connect IQ app that was preloaded on certain Garmin units. But anytime Garmin preloads Connect IQ apps on devices – it’s a sign of a much deeper partnership. And the result of that becomes more clear with the new Edge 530/830.  Not only is there deeper integration with Trailforks (substantially so), but also a pile of new metrics atop that.

Specifically, here’s what’ new:

Trailforks maps are baked into the Edge 830: This includes about 130,000 mountain bike trails, alongside trail ratings
Mountain Bike Dynamics: These metrics show how hard a trail was that you rode, as well as how well you rode it
ForkSight: This trail chooser screen automatically appears when you pause at a trail intersection
Find my Edge: While not absolute to mountain riding, this helps you find your bike computer if it flies off the mount on the trail
Trail Planning: You can ask the Edge to pick a trail of a certain rating, and it’ll find you something to ride

You’ll want to keep around the previous Trailforks Connect IQ app, since that has better tie-ins with your actual Trailforks account on their platform, so you can save your routes quickly and pull them into the Edge. So that’s not going anywhere.

Let’s start by talking metrics – of which three are basically three new ones – grouped under something called ‘Mountain Bike Dynamics’:

Grit: This calculates a difficulty score for each route, using elevation and GPS data. So kinda like a trail rating. If two riders ride the same exact trail, they should get the same Grit score. The higher the number the harder the course.
Flow: This is your specific rating for how well you rode the route. It’s focused on the momentum of the ride, so things like braking impact hurt your score. A lower number is a better score. Thus, two riders could ride the exact same route and get totally different Flow scores.
Jumps: This will count how many jumps, and for each jump will include distance and hang time. Additionally, during the ride you’ll get jump notifications in real-time with distance/hang time.

Looking at some of these in real-time, first we’ve got the jump metric. In my case, I suck at jumping (look, I’m a road cyclist/triathlete – you’re just lucky I managed to ride a mountain bike at all). So while I got some jumps in my rides, my ability to capture those jumps while also taking a photo was not happening. So, here’s a photo from Des that shows that:

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Next, there’s the Grit and Flow scores, which you can add as data fields to your unit. Further, you can also see these as per-lap fields. So for example in downhill mountain biking if you created a lap at the top of each descent, you’d be able to see how these scores compared lap after lap.

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Afterwards, these scores show up on Garmin Connect (website). First, they actually show up on the map, color-coding your route – which is cool and something I wish Garmin did for other aspects of the map (like gradient % for road riding data).

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Next, down below in the charts section they show up there too, also color coded:

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And finally, down in the stats section you’ve got the new Mountain Bike Dynamics, including any jumps (or, lack thereof in my case):

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You should be able to see these on Garmin Connect Mobile as well, though my app isn’t showing them yet due to some bug, however, others that I know are seeing them just fine. So this appears to be a me-specific bug. The story of my life.

Next, there’s the increased Trailforks integration. While Garmin hasn’t quite bought out Trailforks yet, I’d be really surprised if we just don’t see that happen. With the Edge 530/830 they’ve baked in all of the Trailforks trail data onto the unit itself. You will need to authorize that briefly the first time you use the unit, but it only takes a second. The existing Trailforks app is still there, since that takes care of better integration with Trailforks as a platform in terms of pulling your routes from your account and so-on.

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The most obvious way the new Trailforks data manifests itself is a feature called ‘ForkSight’, which automatically pops up anytime you pause at an intersection of trails (or, more appropriately – a fork in the trail). It’s at this point it’ll show you the trail options and difficulty grades/distances for each one:

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You can then select any of the options shown to get more information about that specific trail. It’s super cool in real-life, and helps you figure out the implications of each option you have. That said, sometimes it can be a little confusing to figure out which trail is which if they aren’t labeled at the trailhead. But for the most part you can figure it out.

Note: Above/below ForkSight photos on the Edge 530, since my Edge 830 somehow photos came out too fuzzy. It’s identical functions, except that you use your finger to tap instead of the buttons.

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Next, there’s ‘Find my Edge’, while not only for mountain biking, the reality is that most people will probably use it for mountain biking. This feature will instantly and automatically mark the exact GPS location where your unit disconnects from your phone (assuming the Garmin Connect Mobile app is on in the background). Then, on your phone you’ll get an alert that allows you to open up the exact GPS coordinates with the mapping app of your choice (for example, the Google Maps app).

In addition, within the device options on Garmin Connect Mobile, it has two further options: ‘Find my Edge’ and ‘Last Known Location’.  If you select ‘Last Known Location’, it’ll open up the default mapping app on your phone and then the exact GPS coordinates it last saw your Edge devices at:

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Whereas if you select ‘Find my Edge’, it’ll try and connect to your Edge 830 and start an alarm sound. Which is basically just a constant beeper. It’s not crazy loud, but loud enough that you should be able to find it. And here’s what it looks like on the unit itself – saying ‘Edge found’. The fact that it’s on a map screen is just random coincidence. It’ll show on whatever page you’re on.

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Note that this last little bit requires you be within Bluetooth Smart range. Outdoors that’s roughly tens of meters, whereas indoors it’s a crapshoot. Generally speaking though your GPS accuracy is within a few meters, so that gets you close enough to then use the beeper to find your Edge sitting in the bush. Roughly akin to how I found my GoPro mountain biking earlier this year..

Cool stuff, huh (especially my limited camera work)?

Oh, and as for the mountain bike bundle, in case you’re looking at that, it comes with the following:

– Edge 830
– Mountain Bike Mount
– Silicone Case
– Edge Remote
– Dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart Speed Sensor

While I’ve personally never bothered with the silicone case, if you’re looking at picking up any of the other accessories, it probably makes sense to just get the bundle price-wise at that point.

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Like the Edge 820 before it, the Edge 830 contains a complete mapset for the region you bought it in. So if you’ve bought it in North America, then you’ll get North American maps (but not European). However, unlike the Edge 820, the Edge 830 now adds popularity routing data to that mapset. That’s basically their heat map data from Garmin Connect (and the hundreds of millions of activities there), the goal of which being to give you better routing data. most of the time, it works.

The key difference when it comes to navigation between the Edge 830 and the Edge 530 though is that the Edge 830 contains the ability to route to a specific address (I.e. 321 Main Street), whereas the Edge 530 doesn’t. Further, the Edge 830 allows you to browser points of interest around you (such as restaurants, hotels, monuments), whereas the Edge 530 only shows a subset nearest you.  And lastly, given the Edge 830 contains a touchscreen, you can navigate a bit faster through the map by just swiping/moving around.

But perhaps the most important feature on the entire new Edge 530/830 units is the significantly faster processor. I, alongside the entire internet have complained how darn slow Garmin’s previous Edge series processors are. Which isn’t to say I actually care about the processor specifically, but rather the end-resultant: Route calculation time. It would previously take numerous minutes for each just a short route to calculate. That was unacceptable, and thankfully, now it’s a heck of a lot better. So much faster.

Now, there are slight differences depending on what exactly you’re doing. I’ve found loading a saved route is the fastest of the bunch. So something like some 60KM routes from Strava that I’ve loaded are taking about just a few seconds depending on the locale.  Whereas picking a point a distance away and letting it come up with a brand new route takes a few more seconds (like 10-20 seconds, not minutes). That’s understandable since the first is just drawing a route, whereas the second is coming up with one.  And yet it also seems to vary based on exactly where I am. Routes in Mallorca and California were silly quick (1-5 seconds), whereas here in crazy bike route density Amsterdam the routing takes a bit longer (5-15 seconds).

Now, again, there are three umbrella ways to route on the Edge 830:

1) Downloading a route (or opening a route file)
2) Routing to a specific point of interest or address
3) Just using the map to browse to a random cow field and route to it

I’ll start first with just already having a predefined route (the most common thing I do).  This can be something from Garmin Connect or a 3rd party site. It could be an individual route file you’ve downloaded, or it could be from a site like Strava via the Strava Routes Connect IQ app. In my case, I’m mostly using Strava routes (since I can use them on all my devices – acting like the Switzerland of routing). So we’ll start there, grabbing that route from the pre-loaded Strava Routes CIQ app:

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Next, it’ll show me the route details:

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And finally, I can select to ride it. Within about 2-3 seconds, the route generation is complete and I’m ready to press start on my unit.

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Now, when out on the road, I’ll get turn by turn directions as I approach any turn. I’ve found these directions timely (unlike the Edge 520 Plus and sometimes the Edge 820), and in plenty of time to take action on them.  Again, there does seem to be some slight variances in responsiveness based on where in the world I am, but none of the differences affected my ability to have boatloads of time.

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In addition, if I ignored a route, it’d automatically recalculate the route (including street names). Depending on the scenario, it’d either explain how to turn around and re-join the route, or in some cases cut a corner to catch-up down the road. I did however see one quirk in Amsterdam on a very short automatically generated route where it continued to try and go via some non-direct roads. After Garmin analyzed it they found a routing/mapping related bug that they say should be included in the next firmware update.

Note that the recalculation behavior is very different than that of a Wahoo BOLT/ELEMNT, which don’t have a street-level map on them. Thus, they just point you back (compass-style) to the route itself, rather than giving you turn by turn directions. For many folks, that’s perfectly fine, but I wanted to make that clear.  Whereas the Garmin method matches that of Hammerhead’s Karoo and Sigma’s ROX 12 in terms of proper on-street routing data.

The next routing option is if you want to go to a specific address. You’ll enter that in starting with the country, and then from there it depends on the exact country as to which data piece it asks for next. In my case in the Netherlands it asks for postal code next (since that actually gives you the exact street name too).

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Meanwhile, if you want to route to a specific point of interest you can go to the POI’s and choose something that looks interesting. Perhaps that’s a nightclub, or BBQ. Though, based on my experience here in the last year – I’ve struggled with finding any BBQ place I’d recommend eating at. Bike shops yes, BBQ…no.

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No matter what you end up choosing, the routing is the same. It’ll simply calculate a route to that location and off you go. No interweb connectivity is required at any point here.

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Next, what if you wanted to go somewhere unplanned? The Edge 830 can do that as well, you can simply pull open the ‘Browse Map’ option and then just stumble around using the touchscreen. You can zoom in/out, or just move the map around with your fingers. Once you’ve decided on a spot and selected it, it’ll go off and calculate a route there.

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Again, the exact same as the other methods in terms of the ‘getting there’ part of routing – it all acts the same.

Finally, note that the unit in conjunction with your phone via the Garmin Connect Mobile app can also do some route planning.  You can create round-trip routes whereby it goes and creates a route of a given distance for you automatically, as well as create manual routes connecting points together.

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This new manual route creation bit is actually brand new – introduced in the last week or two (to everyone, not just Edge 530/830 peoples), and frankly, it sucks. I don’t know how it could be so bad, but it really is. Having come from the Easy Route app world, where I just tappity-tap my way through a route, the Garmin Connect Mobile experience is just super clunky and imprecise, crazily zooming in and out like a drunk kid with a camera for the first time. Yes, you can get the job done, but it’ll take you way longer.

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Hopefully though since it’s a brand new feature it’ll improve over time – maybe once someone buys a bulk pack of 40-grit sandpaper and goes to town on it.

Still, new app option aside – the rest of routing works great (finally). The processing time is what I’d expect from a unit of this price point, and the route calculation to match it. I know some folks still want phone-like speeds, but the reality is that this device is designed to last 20 hours (with screen-on, while connected to sensors and your phone), whereas a phone isn’t. It’s just two fundamentally different use cases with different processor choices and battery drain impacts.

That said, I would like to see Garmin integrate Strava routes directly though, as I find the Strava Routes app clunky compared to Wahoo’s integrated Strava Routes capability. Also, I’d prefer to see Garmin allow easy loading of maps from other regions like Wahoo, rather than having to rely on 3rd party site downloads (or paying a bunch of cash).

Still, once you get the route/maps loaded, then Garmin’s routing engine is leagues ahead of what Wahoo has. I suppose doing it for a decade longer will get you that experience.

Finally, note that if there’s one thing I know about routing is that there are always edge cases in certain areas. In my case I’ve tested routing quite a bit in three core locations: Mallorca (Spain), Amsterdam (Netherlands), and Monterey (California, USA). This has included both on-road and off-road routes. However, there are always quirks in weird places that I might not have encountered, though for the most part the underlying mapping/routing data here should match that of the Edge 1030 – which people seem pretty happy with.

Training & Performance Metrics:

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In many ways the Edge 530/830 launch has ‘equalized’ all of the training/load metrics across all of Garmin’s higher end units. Previously there was one set for the Edge 1030, another for the Edge 820, and yet another for the Edge 520 Plus. And that’s before we even factored in Fenix and Forerunner product lines.  So consumers that used more than one device (like a Fenix 5 along with an Edge 820 for cycling), ended up with incontinent experiences. That should no longer be the case (at least going forward).

The Edge 830 (and the Edge 530) come with a slew of training and performance-related metrics, virtually all of which are new to this Edge price point (or in some cases Garmin products in general). And we’re going to start with ClimbPro, which is hands-down my favorite feature on the Edge 530/830.

This feature automatically slices and dices your planned routes climbs, and generates detailed climb charts for each climb as you ride them. The feature actually originated from the Fenix 5 Plus wearables last year, but really shines here on the larger screen of the Edge series as a cycling focused function. It requires that you have some route/course loaded, so it knows where you’re going. Once you’ve got that, you can see the list of climbs within the ClimbPro summary screen on the route planning page:

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Then while you’re riding it’ll automatically show the ClimbPro page for each climb once you enter it. Kinda like Strava Segments for climbs, minus the racing aspect. The climb page shows the distance remaining on the climb, the ascent remaining, the average grade remaining, and then two customizable fields at the bottom. By default, these are heading and elevation, but you can change them as you see fit.

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The Edge 830 will color-code the pain of the climb segments on the ClimbPro page based on gradient as seen above. These are bucketed into:

0-3%: Green
3-6%: Yellow
6-9%: Orange
9-12%: Red
12%+: Please make it stop dark red

Having ridden with this feature last month on Mallorca it was super cool. Not only for major climbs like Sa Calobra, but actually for some of the smaller ones before and after it. For example, after you finish the famed Sa Calobra and continue out of that area you’ve actually still got another minor climb to do before you descend one of a few routes back to the remainder of the island. Having ClimbPro on my screen was super handy to know how much suck was left, since mentally you sorta forgot about these minor climbs you’ve still gotta do in comparison to the big one you just knocked out.

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Even on the hills around Sea Otter two weeks ago while mountain biking it was handy for some of the shorter but also painful routes. And again, what’s cool is that this will show up anytime you load up a course or trail, automatically (no interwebs required).

Garmin notes that they expect to tweak the definition of a climb based on feedback over the next month or two. Specifically, whether or not something triggers a climb on ClimbPro (since this is calculated on the unit itself when a route is loaded). Obviously, there’s no international definition when it comes to what’s a cycling climb and what’s not. Still, the definition they’re using as of today is as follows:

Total value must be 3,500 or higher where: Distance of climb in meters (min 500 meters) * Gradient (min average 3%)

So, doing some samples here to help understand:

Climb A: 1,000 meters long at 4% = 1,000*4 = 4,000: Yes, qualifies as a climb
Climb B: 5,000 meters long at 2% = 5,000*2 = 10,000: No, doesn’t meet 3% threshold
Climb C: 500 meters long at 8% = 500*8 = 4,000: Yes, qualifies as a climb

Make sense? Again, simply calculate distance in meters by incline/gradient and see if it’s above 3,500. Also, ensure average gradient is 3%.  As I said above – I think it’s probably the coolest feature on the Edge 530/830.

Next, speaking of elevation, there’s two new features coupled together – heat and altitude acclimation. Both of these are actually quietly present on the Garmin MARQ series as well. The goal behind both of these are post-workout calculations tied to figuring out whether or not you’re acclimated to a given temperature or altitude. Obviously, both can significantly impact performance.  Starting with heat acclimation, the function leverages nearby weather stations. So your unit has to have connected to Garmin Connect Mobile within 3 hours of starting your ride in order to receive that weather data (it doesn’t use on-device temperature).

Then, for heat acclimation it applies a heat correction factor for rides above 71°F/22°C, using a percentage based amount from published studies (humidity is also factored into this as well). This is then shown in the training status widget. Garmin says they assume full acclimation takes a minimum of 4 days, and acclimation/adaptation to a given high temperature will automatically decay after 3 days of skipped training within that heat levels.

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Altitude acclimation/adaption is roughly similar (also seen above). The minimum threshold is at altitudes above 850m/2,788ft, and tops out at 4,000m/13,123ft (Garmin doesn’t calculate above that for cycling, sorry folks). Garmin says that they divide up training vs living altitudes, just as typical studies would. The company says that adaptation algorithms within the Edge 530/830 assume total adaptation after 21 days, and that adaptation is faster at the beginning of altitude exposure. Additionally, adaptation will decay within 21-28 days depending on acclimation level. Because I haven’t had any high altitude rides lately, I’m deferring you to Mr. DesFit, who has, and kindly lent me his high altitude shot:

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What the feature shows is your current altitude adaptation level. In other words, if I go from living at sea level (as I do) to moving to the French Alps, each day it’ll show what my body has acclimated to. This essentially automates/charts the exact same process that many elite athletes take when preparing for races. In fact, a pro triathlete friend of mine wrote a guest post here on that very topic some 8 years ago. For the rest of us, we can just use this as a post-ride pub excuse for why we climbed so poorly on our week-long vacation in the Alps. Obviously, we weren’t acclimated.

Also of note is that if the Edge 530/830 are put into ‘sleep’ mode (as opposed to powered full off), it’ll actually do a check each night at midnight of where it is altitude wise, and account for that – just like the MARQ series watch does every night at midnight. Effectively giving you credit for sleeping at high altitude.

Next, there’s new hydration/nutrition alerts and record keeping. These alerts will appear mid-ride anytime you’ve loaded a pre-planned course/route into the Edge, and are based on your profile (gender/weight). Effectively, it’s trying to help you remember to eat and drink – a chronic problem for most longer-distance cyclists and triathletes. Or, at least me.  These alerts automatically show up seemingly based on caloric intake variables, and will give you Garmin’s recommendations for fluid and calories, impacted by the current temperature/humidity as well. Garmin did note that these are capped though to account for maximum hydration intake limits of the human body.

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In other words, they know that in some super hot/humid scenarios you could lose more hydration than you could possibly consume/absorb in the same timeframe, so they shouldn’t be giving you crazy recommendations like drinking three full bottles per hour. I haven’t hit that kinda weather yet, so it’s hard to tell for sure.

Then, afterwards you’ve got new hydration/nutrition tracking These pages are shown for any rides longer than 90 minutes, where it’ll ask you how much you drank and ate. It’s here over the last few months that I’ve realized the answer is always ‘not enough’.

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This data is then shown on Garmin Connect (but oddly not Garmin Connect Mobile):

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In addition to the post-ride nutrition stats, there’s your total training status stats. These stats are a step above what you’ve historically gotten on the Edge series, and are in line to match that of MARQ (and a step above the Fenix 5 Plus). Note that some of these stats require a power meter (like FTP). Here’s the overview ‘My Stats’ page (though, much of this is also shown post-ride on the summary screens):

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First, there’s Training Status, which is showing you Training Load over the last 7 days. Note that this includes non-riding activities as well, if they’ve synced from other Garmin wearable devices.

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Next, there’s Training Load Focus, which is showing you the breakouts of your training types over the last four weeks. It then shows you in the dotted line the optimal (aka balanced) training load bucketing. Obviously, I ignore anything that’s optimal or balanced.

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Then there’s Recovery Time, which is load-based and includes time from other devices as well. This is telling you how many hours you should wait until your next hard workout:

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After that there’s VO2Max and FTP, both of which are calculated (FTP calculation requires a power meter). And finally, one of the newer metrics not seen on any other Garmin device is Power Curve. This is basically just a mean-max power graph, and loosely mirrors what we’ve had on various training platforms for more than a decade.

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The time duration is selectable as three choices – one month, three months, and twelve months. It does appear to pull in data from Garmin Connect as well, which is a good thing and shows tighter integration there than we’ve previously seen for Personal Records on other Garmin devices. On the downside, if you’ve got bad power meter data mixed in there (as I do apparently), it skews some of the numbers.

Last but not least, there’s on-device training plans. You could previously see all of this on Garmin Connect, but it wasn’t super visible on the Edge itself. Now, if you’ve got a training plan loaded (including those from TrainingPeaks and soon also TrainerRoad), those will appear here. This also applies to the host of free training plans that Garmin has on Garmin Connect.

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Once you load a workout up, you’ll get similar step by step instructions on the Edge as before, but now with a bit better overview metrics and showing exactly how that workout should look:

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Additionally, there’s now a new ‘Gear’ and ‘Weather’ option. The weather simply shows the weather for that day of the week that the workout is scheduled. Whereas the gear option aims to give you tips on what kind of gear you should have that day (for example, if it’s cold and miserable to bring gloves). Garmin says that they’re trying to provide tips for cyclists that may not be as experienced. The rest of us know that it’s simply better to stay indoors and Zwift instead.

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As usual, once you’ve completed these workouts, they’ll sync up to Garmin Connect and the various 3rd party platforms they might have come from.

Ultimately, the goal behind all these metrics is that they’re across the board with your other Garmin devices. So if you’ve got a Garmin wearable that supports these metrics (or some portion of them), then everything should match. Understanding that I’m a bit of an edge case due to how many Garmin devices I’m using at once for testing, that concept roughly pans out – though there’s still some cracks here and there where physiological data from one device doesn’t match another. Still, for the normal person that doesn’t ride with 12 devices at once, it’s nice to see some of this glue finally hardening.

GPS & Elevation Accuracy:

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There’s likely no topic that stirs as much discussion and passion as GPS accuracy.  A watch could fall apart and give you dire electrical shocks while doing so, but if it shows you on the wrong side of the road?  Oh hell no, bring on the fury of the internet!

GPS accuracy can be looked at in a number of different ways, but I prefer to look at it using a number of devices in real-world scenarios across a vast number of activities.  I use 2-6 other devices at once, trying to get a clear picture of how a given set of devices handles conditions on a certain day.  Conditions include everything from tree/building cover to weather.

Over the years I’ve continued to tweak my GPS testing methodology.  For example, for watches I try to not place two units next to each other on my wrists, as that can impact signal. If I do so, I’ll put a thin fabric spacer of about 1”/3cm between them (I didn’t do that for any workouts here).  But often I’ll simply carry other units by the straps, or attach them to the shoulder straps of my hydration backpack.  Plus, wearing multiple watches on the same wrist is well known to impact optical HR accuracy. For cycling units, I arrange them on my handlebars using standard mounts – usually one on either side of the step, often a bit separated from each other.

Next, as noted, I use just my daily training routes.  Using a single route over and over again isn’t really indicative of real-world conditions, it’s just indicative of one trail.  The workouts you see here are just my normal daily workouts.  I’ve had a fair bit of variety of terrain within the time period of testing Garmin Edge units.  This has included workouts in: Amsterdam (city, countryside) and Mallorca (mountains, ocean, countryside), California (off-road, hills, forests, seaside).

We’re gonna look at a few different rides in different parts of the world. First, we’ll start with the famed Sa Calobra in Mallorca. I rode this nearly a month ago, so while this firmware was slightly older, it still shows pretty solid GPS performance. Here is the data set compared to the Garmin MARQ watch and the Samsung Galaxy Watch Active.

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This super twisty-turny route is incredibly difficult from a GPS performance standpoint. There are rock tunnels, huge cliffs next to you, and plenty of GPS-blocking goodness to hose up units (as we see the Samsung illustrate).

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I’m going to zoom into one of the more difficult points here:

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Of course, with the trees it’s hard to see what’s going on. But I just wanted to show you first the density of trees. In fact, you can see the Samsung straight-up gave up on life half-way through this and just cut the corner entirely. So we’ll ignore it.

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The other units tracks are actually very close. There’s a few bottles of the Garmin MARQ at one point where the cave is (the green text you see). That’s this thing:

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But most importantly, the two Edge 530/830 units tracked through that just fine and dandy. Perhaps by skill, or perhaps by dumb luck. They did it both directions though.

Now I had a quick lunch at the bottom before heading up. GPS-wise, units were fine here. I left them recording on my bike while I ate.

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Though I did see some elevation issues here were it showed me quite a bit higher in elevation than I really was (300ft higher than the sea I was sitting next to). Garmin isn’t super clear on why this happened, though I haven’t seen it happen again. And again, that was a month ago on older firmware.

And in fact, if we look at route elevation for the next day, you’ll see the two Edge 530/830 units nail the elevation without any issues, super clean and consistent. The Samsung…is…well…yeah.

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Next we’ve got a ride in Monterey, California from two weeks ago. This was a nice coastal ride that also went through some gigantic tree forests. Plus it had a couple of rollers and a solid climb mid-way through. For this, I’ve got both Edge 530/830 units, as well as the Garmin MARQ watch and the Polar Vantage V GPS watch. Here’s the high-level overview of the GPS from that set:

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We’ll go ahead and zoom into some sections, starting with early on. It’s here we see the Edge 530 is a bit offset from the rest. Why you ask? It was in my back jersey pocket. I needed to photograph the Edge 830 solo-cup:

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However, once we turned the corner I then got it on my handlebars and it was clean sailing:

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I know, it’s hard to see the lines above. But how could I not go to satellite view with scenery like that? Ok, I’ll go back to boring map view for the next ones.

Oh, back in the pocket it went for a climb to get other photos. Why bother including this you ask? Well two reason. First, in case you’re browsing the files and wondering why it went all sideways, and second, because I actually see a surprising number of people that stick GPS devices in their back pockets. This shows you what can happen.

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This is back in the forests and back on the handlebars:

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It was at least pretty consistent in that when it went into my pocket it went a bit sideways. This ride unfortunately had a lot of that, as we were filming other videos for things that were published prior to this review (and thus prior to this embargo). Though interestingly the Edge 830 seemed to handle the pocketing better than the Edge 530 on this ride. No idea why.

Here’s another section with all of them out – nice and clean. And this is actually in the trees a fair bit alongside a highway.

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As for altitude? Pretty similar overall, however the Edge 830 did seem offset about 18 meters throughout the entire ride. I suspect it got a weird initial fix which is used to then calibrate the barometer.

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As for the couple of spikes in there – I haven’t seen those on any other rides, and thus I suspect that’s due to the pocketing. I didn’t see it on numerous rides in Mallorca on legit climbs, nor any mountain bike rides elsewhere in California.

Next, we’ve got a ride I did this past weekend from Amsterdam one-way, down south through the Tulip fields. For this ride I’ve got it compared against the Polar Vantage V GPS watch, as well as actually also have the new magnetless speed sensor in fully standalone mode (meaning, it was just recording to itself). You won’t see a GPS track from the standalone sensor, but it does show us speed and distance. Here’s what things looked like in that data set:

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Ok, at a high level that’s pretty boring. Nobody does anything stupid, so all the tracks look fine from 30,000ft. Let’s zoom in a bunch to some corners and such. Note that all of these units are recording at 1-second intervals.

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Here’s a crossing of a bridge and the lead-up to it. You’ll see that the Polar Vantage V overshoots the turn the most (heading into an ice cream shop, which I suppose is a good idea), though once on the other side of the water, all of them are quite close together near the path. Note that where it says ‘Real Estate Agency’ you might think that the units cut the corner of the roadway, but in reality, that’s where the bike path goes.

The thing with analyzing road bike GPS files, is that they very rarely fail. Seriously, super rarely do units screw it up. That said, time and time again I found the Polar Vantage V off in the water, as seen here. Mind you, this is the exact same GPS chipset between these three units (all Sony, and all likely using the same chipset).

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The difference though is in the modes and power delivery. In this case I’ve got both Edge units configured for GPS+Galileo, a mode the Polar Vantage V doesn’t support. Not only that, but the Edge can deliver far more power to the Sony chipset and has more space for the antenna than a wearable.

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It’s hard to find many Edge 530/830 screw-ups in this file. The closest we get is this intersection where I turn, and we see the Edge 530/830 separate a bit on their plotted tracks, about one lane difference while crossing the bridge. There was a tall building to the right there, but that’s it.

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The second mistake is on this bend in the road, all three units undercut the corner – the Garmin’s more so than the Polar. Though again, if you scroll through the actual data set, you’ll find that the Polar cuts every corner.

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Oh, and altitude on this one? Pay attention to the scale, it’s only a shift of about 10 meters for any given file over the course of the ride. The green is the Polar Vantage V, brown the Edge 830, and purple the Edge 530. It looks like we see a bit of a variation around the 90-minute marker going over a small bridge, but again, keep in mind we’re really only talking a variance of about 5 meters at that moment. Welcome to the Netherlands.

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In any event, overall, from a GPS accuracy standpoint I’m not yet seeing anything of concern. Even in off-road conditions the tracks are essentially the same that I’ve seen from past Garmin Edge devices. While I’ve had concern about the new Sony chipset based on the implementations by other companies, those concerns don’t seem to be carrying over to the Garmin line. Or at least, the Edge lineup specifically. Again as I noted earlier this is likely more to do with the fact that Garmin has enabled additional GPS modes (Galileo), as well as simply has more power it can throw at the GPS chipset than a wearable can. Plus, bike computers have much more room for better antenna design.

(Note: All of the charts in these accuracy portions were created using the DCR Analyzer tool.  It allows you to compare power meters/trainers, heart rate, cadence, speed/pace, GPS tracks and plenty more. You can use it as well for your own gadget comparisons, more details here.)

Product Comparison:

I’ve added the Edge 830 (as well as Edge 530) into the product comparison calculator so you can see how it compares to other units on the market. To keep things simple for below, I’ve compared it against the Edge 820 (previous generation), Wahoo BOLT, and Edge 530. Of course, there are plenty more units in the product comparison calculator, so you can make your own charts here as well. In the meantime, here’s how things line-up below:

Function/FeatureGarmin Edge 830Garmin Edge 530Garmin Edge 820Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT
Copyright DC Rainmaker - Updated April 9th, 2021 @ 10:26 am New Window
Price$399$299$399$229
Product Announcement DateApr 24th, 2019Apr 24th, 2019July 13th, 2016Mar 14th, 2017
Actual Availability/Shipping DateEarly May 2019Early May 2019Mid-July 2016Mar 14th, 2017
GPS Recording FunctionalityYesYesYesYes
Data TransferUSB, Bluetooth Smart, WiFiUSB, Bluetooth Smart, WiFiUSB, Bluetooth, WiFiBluetooth Smart, WiFi, USB
WaterproofingIPX7IPX7IPX7IPX7
Battery Life (GPS)20 Hours (40 in battery Saver Mode)20 Hours (40 in battery Saver Mode)15 hours15 hours
Recording Interval1-Second or Smart1-Second or Smart1-Second or Smart1-second
Quick Satellite ReceptionYEsYEsYesYes
AlertsAudio/VisualAudio/VisualSound/VisualAUDIO/VISUAL + LED's
Backlight GreatnessGreatGreatGreatGreat
Ability to download custom apps to unit/deviceYesYesYesNo
Acts as daily activity monitor (steps, etc...)NoNoNoN/A
MusicGarmin Edge 830Garmin Edge 530Garmin Edge 820Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT
Can control phone musicNoNoNoNo
Has music storage and playbackNoNoNoNo
Streaming ServicesNoNoNo
PaymentsGarmin Edge 830Garmin Edge 530Garmin Edge 820Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT
Contactless-NFC PaymentsNo
ConnectivityGarmin Edge 830Garmin Edge 530Garmin Edge 820Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT
Bluetooth Smart to Phone UploadingYesYesYesYes
Phone Notifications to unit (i.e. texts/calls/etc...)YesYesYesYes
Live Tracking (streaming location to website)YesYesYesYes
Group trackingYesYesYesYes
Emergency/SOS Message Notification (from watch to contacts)YesYesYesNo
Built-in cellular chip (no phone required)NoNoNoNo
CyclingGarmin Edge 830Garmin Edge 530Garmin Edge 820Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT
Designed for cyclingYesYesYesYes
Power Meter CapableYEsYEsYEsYes
Power Meter Configuration/Calibration OptionsYesYesYesYes
Power Meter TSS/NP/IFYesYesYesYes
Speed/Cadence Sensor CapableYesYesYesYes
Strava segments live on deviceYesYesYesYes
Crash detectionYesYesYesNo
RunningGarmin Edge 830Garmin Edge 530Garmin Edge 820Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT
Designed for runningN/AN/ANoN/A
VO2Max Estimation(CYCLING YES THOUGH)(CYCLING YES THOUGH)(Cycling Yes though)N/A
Recovery Advisor(CYCLING YES THOUGH)(CYCLING YES THOUGH)(Cycling Yes Though)N/A
TriathlonGarmin Edge 830Garmin Edge 530Garmin Edge 820Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT
Designed for triathlonSortaSortaNoN/A
WorkoutsGarmin Edge 830Garmin Edge 530Garmin Edge 820Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT
Create/Follow custom workoutsYesYesYesYes
On-unit interval FeatureYesYesYesNo
Training Calendar FunctionalityYesYesYesNo
FunctionsGarmin Edge 830Garmin Edge 530Garmin Edge 820Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT
Auto Start/StopYesYesYesYes
Virtual Partner FeatureYesYesYesNo
Virtual Racer FeatureYesYesYesNo
Records PR's - Personal Records (diff than history)YesYesYesNo
Day to day watch abilityN/AN/ANoShows time/date
Hunting/Fishing/Ocean DataN/AN/ANoN/A
Tidal Tables (Tide Information)N/AN/ANoN/A
Jumpmaster mode (Parachuting)N/AN/ANoN/A
GeocachingN/AN/ANoN/A
Weather Display (live data)YesYesYesNo
NavigateGarmin Edge 830Garmin Edge 530Garmin Edge 820Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT
Follow GPS Track (Courses/Waypoints)YesYesYesYes
Markers/Waypoint DirectionYesYesYesNo
Routable/Visual Maps (like car GPS)YesYesYesYes
Back to startYesYesYesYes
Impromptu Round Trip Route CreationYesNoYesNo (But can create one-way routes from phone app)
Download courses/routes from phone to unitYesYesYesYes
SensorsGarmin Edge 830Garmin Edge 530Garmin Edge 820Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT
Altimeter TypeBarometricBarometricBarometricBarometric
Compass TypeGPSGPSGPSMagnetic
Optical Heart Rate Sensor internallyNoNoN/AN/A
Heart Rate Strap CompatibleYesYesYesYes
ANT+ Heart Rate Strap CapableYEsYEsYesYes
ANT+ Speed/Cadence CapableYEsYEsYEsYes
ANT+ Footpod CapableNoNoNoNo
ANT+ Power Meter CapableYesYesYesYes
ANT+ Weight Scale CapableYesYesYesNo
ANT+ Fitness Equipment (Gym)NoNoNoNo
ANT+ Lighting ControlYesYesYesNo
ANT+ Bike Radar IntegrationYesYesYesYes
ANT+ Trainer Control (FE-C)YesYesYesYes
ANT+ Remote ControlYesYesYesNo
ANT+ eBike CompatibilityYesYesYesNo
ANT+ Muscle Oxygen (i.e. Moxy/BSX)With appsWith appsWith appsYes
ANT+ Gear Shifting (i.e. SRAM ETAP)YesYesYesYes
Shimano Di2 ShiftingYesYesYesYes
Bluetooth Smart HR Strap CapableYesYesNoYes
Bluetooth Smart Speed/Cadence CapableYesYesNoYes
Bluetooth Smart Footpod CapableNoNoNoYEs
Bluetooth Smart Power Meter CapableYesYesNoYes
Temp Recording (internal sensor)YesYesYesYes
Temp Recording (external sensor)NoNoNoNo
SoftwareGarmin Edge 830Garmin Edge 530Garmin Edge 820Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT
PC ApplicationGarmin ExpressGarmin ExpressGarmin Express (PC/Mac)N/A
Web ApplicationGarmin ConnectGarmin ConnectGarmin ConnectN/A
Phone AppiOS/Android/Windows PhoneiOS/Android/Windows PhoneiOS/Android/Windows PHoneiOS/Android
Ability to Export SettingsNoNoNoNo
PurchaseGarmin Edge 830Garmin Edge 530Garmin Edge 820Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT
AmazonLinkLinkLinkLink
Backcountry.comLinkLinkLink
Clever Training - Save with the VIP programLink
Competitive CyclistLinkLinkLink
REILinkLink
WiggleLinkLinkLink
DCRainmakerGarmin Edge 830Garmin Edge 530Garmin Edge 820Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT
Review LinkLinkLinkLinkLink

Again, remember you can make your own charts within the product comparison calculator here.

Summary:

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The Edge 830 is a solid little unit, it works well and the touchscreen also works equally as well. It’s probably what the Edge 820 should have been, though, hindsight is always 20/20. The new features on the Edge 830, especially ClimbPro, are legit useful. And heck, if nothing else I can now use the altitude and heat acclimation features to justify my slow performance.

The challenge for the Edge 830 isn’t that there’s anything wrong with it. It’s that the Edge 530 is so good, yet $100 less. The only features missing on the Edge 530 are address-specific navigation, round-trip routing (which you can send from Garmin Connect Mobile instantly anyway), and POI routing (which I rarely if ever use). Of course, you don’t get the touchscreen on the Edge 530 – though I’ve never found that a deal-breaker for me.  So it’s not that I’ve got anything meaningfully negative to say about the Edge 830 – it’s just that Edge 530 is such a good deal (comparatively or otherwise).

What I do think you’re seeing with the Edge 830 though is Garmin telling all other mostly new bike computer companies that keep trying to attack the $399 price point, to take a flying leap. It’s going to be incredibly hard to compete at not just $399, but now even $299. Wahoo stirred the hornet’s nest two years ago with their Wahoo BOLT, and now we’re seeing Garmin’s development engine really kicking into gear. Whether or not Garmin has any stumbles as production expands though remains to be seen over time.

In the meantime, if you’re looking at either of the new units released today, you won’t go wrong.

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And finally, here’s a handy list of accessories that work well with this unit (and some that I showed in the review). Given the unit pairs with ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart sensors, you can use just about anything though.

The Edge remote allows you to control functions (like data pages/screens, and laps) wirelessly right from your handlebars/drops. Super handy for mountain biking where taking your hands off the bars might be a bad idea.

This magnetless Garmin Cadence Sensor attached to your crank arm and transmits cadence over both ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart to apps, watches, or bike computers.

This is a set of Garmin magnetless speed and cadence sensors. Both transmits over ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart, but the speed sensor also can record rides without a bike computer - perfect for using on a commuter bike.

Garmin RTL515 Varia Radar

The Garmin Varia radar alerts you to cars coming up behind you, well before you see them. It's awesome for quieter roads (country roads/mountains), especially on longer rides. It's less useful for city riding.

The Garmin Varia radar alerts you to cars coming up behind you, well before you see them. It's awesome for quieter roads (country roads/mountains), especially on longer rides. It's less useful for city riding. The RVR315 skips the light.

This magnetless Garmin speed sensor transmits your speed on ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart, but more notably, it also has memory so it can save rides even when not paired to a bike computer/watch, then quietly offloads them to your phone later on. Perfect for a commuter bike.

The HRM-DUAL strap transmits not only concurrently on ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart, but actually has two Bluetooth channels, making it perfect for pairing to Zwift at the same time you also have it paired to another device/app via Bluetooth.

The HRM-PRO is Garmin's top-end chest strap. It transmits dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart, but also transmits Running Dynamics metrics, stores HR data during a swim, and can be used without a watch for other sports. Also, it can transmit XC Skiing Dynamics as well.

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Found This Post Useful? Support The Site!

Hopefully you found this review useful. At the end of the day, I’m an athlete just like you looking for the most detail possible on a new purchase – so my review is written from the standpoint of how I used the device. The reviews generally take a lot of hours to put together, so it’s a fair bit of work (and labor of love). As you probably noticed by looking below, I also take time to answer all the questions posted in the comments – and there’s quite a bit of detail in there as well.

If you're shopping for the Garmin Edge 830 or any other accessory items, please consider using the affiliate links below! As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, but your purchases help support this website a lot. Even more, if you use Backcountry.com or Competitive Cyclist with coupon code DCRAINMAKER, first time users save 15% on applicable products!

Here's a few other variants or sibling products that are worth considering:

And finally, here’s a handy list of accessories that work well with this unit (and some that I showed in the review). Given the unit pairs with ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart sensors, you can use just about anything though.

The Edge remote allows you to control functions (like data pages/screens, and laps) wirelessly right from your handlebars/drops. Super handy for mountain biking where taking your hands off the bars might be a bad idea.

This magnetless Garmin Cadence Sensor attached to your crank arm and transmits cadence over both ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart to apps, watches, or bike computers.

This is a set of Garmin magnetless speed and cadence sensors. Both transmits over ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart, but the speed sensor also can record rides without a bike computer - perfect for using on a commuter bike.

Garmin RTL515 Varia Radar

The Garmin Varia radar alerts you to cars coming up behind you, well before you see them. It's awesome for quieter roads (country roads/mountains), especially on longer rides. It's less useful for city riding.

The Garmin Varia radar alerts you to cars coming up behind you, well before you see them. It's awesome for quieter roads (country roads/mountains), especially on longer rides. It's less useful for city riding. The RVR315 skips the light.

This magnetless Garmin speed sensor transmits your speed on ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart, but more notably, it also has memory so it can save rides even when not paired to a bike computer/watch, then quietly offloads them to your phone later on. Perfect for a commuter bike.

The HRM-DUAL strap transmits not only concurrently on ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart, but actually has two Bluetooth channels, making it perfect for pairing to Zwift at the same time you also have it paired to another device/app via Bluetooth.

The HRM-PRO is Garmin's top-end chest strap. It transmits dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart, but also transmits Running Dynamics metrics, stores HR data during a swim, and can be used without a watch for other sports. Also, it can transmit XC Skiing Dynamics as well.

And of course – you can always sign-up to be a DCR Supporter! That gets you an ad-free DCR, access to the DCR Quarantine Corner video series packed with behind the scenes tidbits...and it also makes you awesome. And being awesome is what it’s all about!

Thanks for reading! And as always, feel free to post comments or questions in the comments section below, I’ll be happy to try and answer them as quickly as possible. And lastly, if you felt this review was useful – I always appreciate feedback in the comments below. Thanks!

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852 Comments

  1. Gareth Thompson

    Thanks for the review Ray. Do you know if the 530/830/1030 have the same hardware. I kinda like the size of the 1030 but if its going to run super slow with the new features when they release that firmware then the 830 is a better option.

    • I suspect the 530/830 have identical hardware internally. The Edge 1030…we know it has the older GPS chipset (MediaTek), and I suspect it has a slower processor than the Edge 530/830 – but Garmin typically doesn’t release process specs (the fact that they claimed 2x faster this time around is a huge rarity for them).

      I don’t think you’re going to see an impact to slowness on the Edge 1030 with new features, since by and large features are only loaded when used.

  2. Petucky

    Thanks for the review Ray. In the sensor compatibility table, you have “NO” for eBike connectivity, but in the text, you have a comment that you can now pair eBike ANT+ sensors on the Edge 830.
    Could you please clarify?
    I’m especially interested to replace default Shimano display with this unit (as such option was announced last summer from both companies), but didn’t see it in real life yet.
    Thanks.

  3. Frank B.

    Ray, can you please run the IQ “Tree Benchmark” on 530 and 830? So we better can evaluate the new processor performance compared to other devices.
    link to apps.garmin.com

    • That app isn’t listed as Edge 530/830 compatible, so it won’t let me install it.

      I found the ‘Connect IQ Benchmark’ test though, and tried it on the Edge 530. It scores a CPU at 21.3, and a Pips at 166.7. The app doesn’t show up for the Edge 830 for some reason.

    • Oh, and I believe my current unit has dev logging enabled (in case I have any crashes they can investigate). As such, there’s some amount of overhead there.

    • JeffF

      Based on those figures the new units are twice as fast as the 1030 and 8-10 times as fast as the 520/820. They really took that performance criticism to heart.

  4. Joe

    No Netflix? I’m disappointed…

  5. Paul S.

    That hydration stuff looks like it can be a little annoying. Can it be turned off? I don’t know how many oz (or ml) I drink. I take three swigs from my (large size) bottle every 15 minutes on the road, and a little more from the 2.5 l bladder on my back in the mountains. So measuring in “bottles” isn’t that useful for me. I’m not going to carry measuring cups or a flow meter with me.

    • Yes, you can turn it off (individually for hydration vs nutrition).

      The bottles measurement is something you define. So you could actually just define your CamelBak size if you wanted to.

  6. Matt

    I’m still on the Edge 1000. Any idea if the 1000 is getting the same updates? I basically stopped using my 1000, except when I need big maps, since it doesn’t count towards training status, intensity minutes, etc. and I have the Forerunner 935.

  7. Paul S.

    Question about altitude: how does it calibrate? Does it still have the “if I’m close enough to a POI with an altitude tag, use that” mode first introduced in the 705? Can it use the onboard DEM to set altitude? Or is it just using GPS to calibrate (which, in my experience, doesn’t really work)?

    • Based on what I’m seeing, it’s using GPS first to calibrate. Else, there were some scenarios that I think it’d have gone more closely to the DEM data. But I’ll check and see.

    • Paul S.

      That’s a deal breaker if true. I have it sitting in my CT cart (and the VIP discount works!), but if it’s going to GPS first or only, I’ll stick with my 1000.

    • William De'Ath

      I read the instructions and it said you can manually calibrate the altitude. Have a google search and someone posted the PDF for the 830 and 530.

    • William De'Ath

      here you go.. link to appelmoessite.wordpress.com

      (click download for the PDF)

    • William De'Ath

      Setting Your Elevation
      If you have accurate elevation data for your present location,
      you can manually calibrate the altimeter on your device.
      1 Select Navigation > > Set Elevation.
      2 Enter the elevation, and select .

    • Paul S.

      Yeah, but I don’t want to do that every time I ride. What the 705, 800, and 1000 do is to check to see if there’s a POI “nearby” with altitude information and use that automatically. So I have a POI for my driveway, and the altitude is automatically calibrated every time. At least I know that at one point in my ride the altitude is accurate (there are drifts, of course, and Garmin doesn’t seem to temperature correct its altitude model so in the summer altitudes in the mountains are always low). With GPS calibration I have no idea, and judging from my VIRB Elite, 360, and my Epix it just doesn’t work that well. (The Elite once calibrated 1500 ft too high.)

    • Dom

      Fenix 3 and 5 do the same thing, but as far as the Garmin forum hive mind could see, it wasn’t documented anywhere, though between us we had a fair idea how it was working.
      DEM is the first thing that’s looked like improving on that…

    • Paul S.

      Yeah, DEM would be fine. GPS just isn’t. When I saw Ray’s 18 m offset above, that smells like GPS calibration.

    • Stacey

      All edge units have the capability to save locations, set the elevation for that location, then the unit will calibrate the baro to the elevation if timer is started within 30 feet of that location. This includes the 530/830. I just tested it and it works flawlessly.

    • Stacey Witenberger

      All Edge unit have the ability to save elevation set points. Basically you mark a waypoint (Location) under Navigation, then edit the waypoint to the known elevation for that location, and when you start an activity within 30 feet of that location, it will automatically calibrate the baro. I just tested this on the Edge 530 and it works flawlessly.

  8. Jamie

    Thoughts on battery life? I think most people found the old 820 to get nowhere near 15 hours, more like 5-9 IRL. Should we expect 10 hours on the 830/530 based on Garmin’s 20 hr claim?

    • Hard to know for absolute certain. I’m looking to do some longer battery life tests once things simmer down (since it’s hard to set it aside for 20-40hrs prior to review). That said, Garmin did make a point of noting that they’ve changed how they make battery life claims and they feel pretty confident with the specifications I noted above in terms of sensor/screen settings/connectivity/etc… We’ll see…

  9. Frank B.

    Display Resolution / Display Size:
    Edge 800/810: 160 x 240 (36 x 55 mm; 2,6″)
    Edge 820: 200 x 265 (35 x 47 mm; 2,3″)
    Edge 520: 200 x 265 (35 x 47 mm; 2,3″)
    Edge Explore: 240 x 400 (39 x 65 mm; 3″)
    Edge 1000: 240 x 400 (39 x 65 mm; 3″)
    Edge 1030: 282 x 470

    Ray, what about the display resolution? Can you please add the 530/830 to this table?

  10. Tommy

    Typo – 5000 meters long at 3%. 2 * 5000 = No doesn’t match the 3% threshold.

    This should be “5000 meters long at 2%”

  11. Michael

    Hi Ray. I really enjoy your reviews. Thank you. While navigating on my Garmin 800, I can press the road name text along the top of the unit and that will take me to a cue sheet for the rest of the ride. Is this feature available on the 830 and 530? Thanks.

  12. DrPeperino

    Hey Ray,

    I remember that the responsiveness of the 820 touchscreen was quite poor. I have the 1030 today and thou it’s quite acceptable I still find I’d prefer the touchscreen to track my instructions better (it’s not that rare that the touchscreen doesn’t capture my touch or tracks it wrong).

    Is this new touchscreen perfect just like in a top level smartphone, or do you still see some indecisions from the unit to track immediately and correctly each tap?

    thanks
    Luca

    • There’s no meaningful indecision at this point. It’s not Google Maps on an iPhone X fast, but it shows me some 500ft before a turn that a turn is coming. Plenty of time.

    • DrPeperino

      Hi Ray,

      i was not really talking about responsiveness in navigation, I was talking about the responsiveness of the touchscreen to the inputs. With the 820 it happens a significant number of times (that I’d roughly rate around 50%) that I had to re-input my instruction (say it is to save the track rather than swiping to another data-screen or whatever) before it got my request. Few times I had to do it even more than 2 times.

    • It’s much better than the Edge 820 in that respect. Once i get beyond the next day or two, I’m going to circle back and put together a side by side video showing the two touchscreens together and responsiveness, water, etc…

      Just a bit slammed for the next 48 hours or so.

      I’d say the Edge 830 is like 95% of the way there, meaning, for every 20 touches, maybe one it won’t catch – and if someone was grading me on using it, they’d probably say I missed the ‘button’ with my figure in that 1 case…and, they’d probably be right about half the time. I think in my Edge 830 video you can see one case where I just totally missed the button (or thought a menu existed but didn’t).

    • drPeperino

      Got it, thank you very much

  13. Eef

    Hi Ray,
    I just bought an Edge 1030 and am still in the period where I can return it. Would you advise returning it and getting the 830 or would you just stick with the 1030?

    • If you’re a mountain biker, you may want to consider how much the Trailforks map data means to you. Else, you’ll get a firmware update with everything else.

      or, you can save a few hundred bucks 🙂

  14. RTellis

    In the beginning of the training and performance section you have “incontinent experiences” instead of what I hope should be “inconsistent experiences.”

  15. Tyler Loewens

    Hi Ray,

    Did you happen to catch any photos of the redesigned structured workout execution page? That page/function is currently one of my nits to pick on my 820. Specifically interaction with a smart trainer. I can’t easily switch between erg and resistance mode. Did that get an update here?
    Thanks!
    Tyler

  16. Ken P

    Best typo ever?

    Incontinent instead of inconsistent.

    “(So consumers that used more than one device (like a Fenix 5 along with an Edge 820 for cycling), ended up with incontinent experiences. That should no longer be the case (at least going forward).“

  17. Frank B.

    How big is the internal memory? Do I still need an external sd-card to store the maps?

    • I also missed information about that.
      And about the weight, size, side by side comparison with other devices, views from all sides, unboxing, happiness about the color, …
      Maybe a followup post when battery life tests are also ready.

    • Internal storage is ~15.5GB of addressable space. However, about half of that is taken up by the onboard maps, depending on which region you’re in.

      As for side by sides, yeah, I shot those and will add them in tomorrow. The clock sorta ran out on adding more things in, so just didn’t have a chance to do that.

    • Nice, looking forward to it.
      I imagine battery tests are quite time consuming too.

    • Ned McCulloch

      In addition to the internal memory, can a sd card be installed to add memory?

    • Jason

      Hi Ray
      How much space do the Euro maps take up? Looking at buying either the 1030 or the 830. I like the screen size of my 1000, and I can add a micro SD card. I.e. will I be able to fit the Euro maps as well as the Aus maps?

    • Pete

      Jason, from memory Europe is a touch over 4 Gb and Australia is something like 1.5. There is more than enough room without a sd card

    • Frank B

      Edge1000: Maps Europe 2018.10 – Size: 9.7 GB
      I don´t know the size of the actual maps. I guess they are a little bit bigger.

    • John

      No SD card slots in the 830 or 530. That’s a 1030-only thing.

    • tobias

      Hi Ray,

      can I still use the ‘open fiets map’ maps? just copy-paste them on the internal memory?

      Btw, nice routing the Butcher’s Tears…

      Thanks,
      Tobias

    • Yes, still works the same.

  18. Sterfan van Kasteren

    Hi Ray, was wondering, do you think some of the new 830 features will be shown later on an Edge 820, 1000 or Edge explorer 1000 or Edge 1030 or the Edge Explorer based on 1030?

    I am realy interested in the hight profile feature but as I already have for every bike an Garmin Ege computer starting from Edge 520, 820, 1000, 1000 explorer, Edge 1030, 2x Edge Explorer i don’t wan’t to spend again 300€

    thanks

    Stefan

  19. Sam

    Looking forward to order one so I can be a beta tester for the next year or so, I have seen my share of bugs with 1030 and vector3 the last two years that I am not convinced that garmin can execute a production ready unit well.

  20. Steffen

    Both units really have the same screen size?

    • John

      Yes, both share the same screen sizes.

      Note that the 520 computers also had the same screen size as the 820 (which shrank a bit in screen size from the 810 IIRC, but had better resolution).

      FWIW, after a very frustrating experience with the 820 touchscreen, I upgraded to the 1030 which has a great touchscreen; reconfiguring display fields on-the-fly is a game changer.

  21. Steve A

    Thanks for the detailed review (been looking forward to this ever since the first rumors of the 830 popped up a couple of weeks ago).
    1. Is the screen technology (lamination etc.) the same as on the 820? It’s obviously too early to tell, but I wonder if the 830 will also suffer from the “blue halo” issue that has plagued the 820 (and the 1030). I have an almost new 820, but I’m dreading the potential appearance of the blue halo (hope it will be during the warranty period still, or even better, not appear at all–fingers crossed).
    2. How did you find the gradient field update speed? My 820 has been rather disappointing compared to my old 810: while the latter constantly updates the grade (every second, I’d guess), the 820 sometimes takes too long (not to mention steep climbs during mountain biking in the woods, where it often shows 0 on double-digit inclines). I’ve had to resort instead to a ConnectIQ gradient app data field, which is comparable to the 810 in this regards.

    • Andrew

      The Blue Halo, is that what it is ! I have had that on my 820 since I bought it a couple of years ago. First time I have heard of someone mentioning it. Its sort of a wide blue border around the edge of the display. I couldn’t be bothered taking it back and complaining about it. It doesn’t seem to affect the operation of the screen or anything.

    • Ignacio Rosales

      I paid €560 for my Edge 1030 and had my first halo six months later, only to happen twice later with replaced units. It DOES affect the operation of the screen (as in “reduced visibility”), and I expect better when paying so much.

      Besides that, since Garmin knows they are selling defective units, the “halo problem” is nothing short of consumer fraud.

    • Gradient update speed was fine for me in Mallorca and California. Here in the Netherlands, it’s a meaningless stat. 🙂

    • Steve A

      I’m happy with the 820 too on open roads (and not just in pancake flat areas like the Netherlands). The issue is with mountain biking in the woods. 🙂

  22. Art

    When will the garmin finally add a map as a data field? !! Or a minimum of 4 data fields on the map page!

    • Frank B.

      Thumbs up! That´s what im waiting for, too!

    • Carole

      OH maaaan I so wish we could have that!!!!

    • Art

      Garmin Touch 35 is a function of 4 data fields. I do not understand why there is no such option in 830 and 1030

    • Art

      Sigma have it for a long time.

    • Yeah, I don’t really understand either.

    • Art

      More talks are needed on the subject, so Garmin will probably notice an access problem. Many people know what is important for the map to have speed, HR, cadence, distance (power). He does not take up the topic, however.

    • I’m saying I don’t understand why they don’t support more screens. Not that I don’t understand the need. I agree, it’s silly.

    • FrankJ

      Couldn’t agree more!

    • Krzysztof Jedut

      You can use this free field. It contains all the most important data that you may need.

      link to apps.garmin.com

      It contains 4 columns:
      1. current speed, average speed, current time.
      2. current cadence, average cadence, timer.
      3. current power, average power, distance.
      4. current heart rate, average heart rate, altitude.

    • Art

      Krzysztof this app only 1030 no 830, 530.

    • Art

      Garmin look what Wahoo has. Why are you standing still. Previous wahoo had 4 fields now has 6 fields with data. Garmin is only two fields away.

    • Paul S.

      Garmin maps aren’t just useless line art. They show actual context (POIs, names, etc.) I personally don’t want any more than 2 fields (and could live with zero) on my map page since the map page is for maps and I want the map big enough to see the context. I can always auto or manual scroll to other pages filled with data. I have two pages with 8-10 fields on my Edge 1000 in addition to the map and the altitude profile page. The Roam may be different, but I found it interesting that none of Ray’s photos in his review of the Roam show any street names on the maps themselves. Garmin should steal the chevrons from Wahoo (they already use them on their automotive GPS’s), but they have little to learn otherwise.

    • Art

      understand that each one goes differently. I like to have a map page all the time. therefore it needs a minimum of 4 fields. I will not change pages every time I race. For programmers, garmin is a minute of work. the customer chooses what suits him. in this case, I choose wahoo.

  23. Paul

    Do we still have to set up all of the data screens with the unit itself? I was hoping design on iPhone and implement to device would be here by now. That aside, the 530 looks like a good unit, I just need one of my other devices to break so I can justify it 🙂

  24. iker

    One of the differences between the 520 and 820 was the available memory and thus the number of connectIQ fields/apps that can be used in a given profile. The 520 could take just a few. In my opinion this was a major difference between both models. Is this the case with 530/830?. The other major question is whether or not the screen is significantly improved. Not only talking about responsiveness, but also about the dreaded blue halo issues that still pest 820s 1030s.

  25. Michael Prytherch

    Wonderful as always Ray… been waiting for the 830 for a loooonnnnnggggg time :), I prefer the size of it over the 1030, thankyou Garmin for listening, whoever did the 820 screen should of been fired a long time ago, for me the 820 was great apart from the screen and the speed, both look to of been resolved… I feel an upgrade on the way, and some of the new features are awesome, but maybe I’ll go 530 instead of 830.

  26. Petucky

    Ray, one more question – can this be somehow paired to Fenix watch to get the hear-rate readings?

  27. John Gianni

    Dear Ray,
    thanks for your in depth review. Much appreciated. I’m very focused on training with power meter and at a certain rpm. I would like to ask you if the “training view” of the 830 is now including the RPM, too, or if it is changeable.
    Thank you

  28. Josh

    Hi Ray, this is not 830 specific, as I have a 1030.

    When using a power meter, do you suggest using a 1 second recording interval or “smart?” I use ANT+ for all of my sensors. I’d like to get as much data as possible, so if Smart can result in <1 second samples, that sounds good to me. But I haven't seen a detailed description of what Smart does.

    • Meredith

      You want to set it to 1 second. Using smart means you will have multiple seconds between recorded data points (how many will depend on when the device thinks it is time to record another one). If you pair a power meter it will automatically set itself to 1 second recording. These devices can’t record in intervals of less than 1 second.

    • By default, all Garmin devices (ever) will hard-set 1-second recording when a power meter is connected (even if you have it set for smart recording).

  29. Andrew

    Can you charge/run the 830 using a USB cable and external battery pack ? I couldn’t see in the review anything about where you plug in a cable or if there is one. I do Everesting rides which can take many hours and so often use an external battery. I don’t see any need to buy the specialist Garmin external battery if you can just plug in any external battery. I have the 820 and its battery life is now about 5 hours with battery save mode activated ! I don’t think it was ever the claimed 15 hours, the smaller case compared to the 810 meant that the battery was just too small. I think Garmin just invented battery save mode to make the battery life bearable. The rubber cover over the USB port on my 820 fell off after a couple of weeks so I hope the 830 has something better. The bike shop I got it from said Garmin couldn’t replace it so I was a bit upset about that. I have used a piece of tape to cover it up ever since it fell off. Great review as always Ray. 🙂

    • Marc

      In the review of the 530 is written that you can, so I would think that it’s also possible on the 830

    • Yup, you can do that.

    • Rick H

      It would be good if Garmin (or a 3rd party) would produce an adapter to link the quarter turn power mount to a USB output. Then you could use any power pack (stored remotely in a bag) & also recharge from the mains without having to fiddle with a micro USB & associated rubber flap (or even unmount it from the bike).

    • Ken Graham

      Andrew, if you ever lose (or tear off the USB port cover like I did), contact Garmin directly. They sent me a replacement, no charge.

    • Andrew

      Thanks Ray. I see that the micro USB port is now in the front which is great for charging while riding. On the 820 it was more awkward with the port underneath. I was also wondering if the electrodes underneath the 830 could lead to device damage if they are shorted out, say you place it on a metal surface for example. I also use my Edge 820 for running by putting it in my pocket so this is a concern for me. Something, even water, could short out the electrodes maybe. I could be completely wrong here, what do people reckon?

    • Andrew

      Thanks Ken, I might try contacting them directly then ! 🙂

    • Jeffrey F.

      Adding for posterity: link to www8.garmin.com

  30. Paul S.

    One more question: are the included maps topographic? (You probably won’t be able to tell in the Netherlands :-))

  31. Ignacio Rosales

    Excellent review. Are you aware of changes in the screen? I would hope the 830 doesn’t have the halo problem that all 820 and 1030 units have, such as my 1030, which had to be replaced already three times.

    • Ignacio Rosales

      Sorry, I meant *in the screen technology* not just the screen per-se.

    • I don’t know. Garmin typically won’t release that kind of information. :-/

    • We understand the concerns about the halo issue some users experienced on their older Edges . We have resolved that issue and encourage any customers who have a halo on their device to reach out to our support team for further assistance.

    • Ignacio Rosales

      Good to see that someone from Garmin admits that yes, there IS an issue. It would be good that Garmin made an official communication regarding it.

      I understand the “solution” involves a new, halo-less screen. Is there a way to know whether the units received (I had mine replaced less than a month ago) have the right screen?

      By the way, I don’t think 1030 is an “older” Edge, being the current top of the line.

  32. Charles Morgan

    Ray, great review as always. However, I almost peed myself when I saw this typo, “ended up with incontinent experiences.”

    Reminds me of an e-mail a coworker sent years ago after an IT system outage where he apologized for “any incontinence that the users might have experienced”.

  33. Zach

    Ray, would you have any insight as to weather or not Garmin will allow us 1030 users to purchase the Trailforks maps?

    • Zach

      I reached out to them. The answer is no. Those of us with the Edge 1030 do not get the integrated Trailforks data, aside from using ConnectIQ or the Donation version 3rd party basemaps.

    • Yeah. I’d wager that Garmin will buy Trailforks at some point in the next year, if there’s good uptick from mountain bikers with the new features.

  34. Davebo

    Do you think Garmin will continue with the Explore models ? These new models seem to be covering most of the ground that the Edge Explore does.

  35. ccr

    So this explains, why Edge 820 was on sale for the last weeks. Amazon UK had it for 140 GBP for a few days, and price never went above 175 GBP for over a month now.
    Too bad, that my one month return period ended last week already. Not sure though, if the MTB metrics are reason enough to justify a new purchase right away. 400 EUR MSRP is quite a lot of money (and at 300 EUR the 530 isn’t exactly a bargain either).

    Any info, if the 820 will receive some of the new functionalities as well? Or is it just the 1030 that will get improved firmware?

  36. Mark J.

    Awesome review as always.

    As the new anti-theft feature seems to include a real speaker with volume that can be heard outside a quiet room, is it possible the alerts from the Varia radar tail lights can heard now?

    • josh

      I had a 1000 and now have a 1030, and the Varia alerts are a lot louder with the 1030 than they ever were with the 1000. Loud enough that other people on rides ask what it is. I know that this isn’t exactly the comparison that you are looking for, but it is a good indication that the newer units have a louder speaker.

      Also, the mount you use has an effect on volume. The speaker is in the mount itself. A mount should have some openings in it so that the speaker noise can get past the plastic/metal in the mount.

    • Mark J.

      Thanks, Josh. I’ve debated getting the 1030 for just that reason, but I wasn’t sure the difference in alert volume was noticeable and I didn’t want to fork out all that cash only to find it wasn’t worth it. The 830 appears to have a lot more bang for the buck, so maybe it’s time to retire the 1000 and grab the 830.

    • John

      The Varia radar alert got noticeably louder in a recent 1030 update, enough so that some are complaining in the Garmin forums that it’s too loud while others (including me) prefer the louder version. I bring this up because a Garminite posted that they are possibly looking into making the volume configurable.

    • I think the audible alerts on the 530/830 for theft are more to cause the thief to think twice when shift the bike, than it is for someone across a cafe to hear it. Instead, that’s what the Bluetooth Smartphone notifications are for.

    • Jon

      I have a Varia 810TL and Edge 1030. The alert volume and tone aren’t clear and/or loud enough for someone with some high frequency hearing loss. The only hearing related problem I have in my daily life is not being able to hear my Varia alerts at speeds above 15-18 or when their is any traffic noise.

    • Mark J.

      Same for me. I’m not deaf by any means, but I do have a high frequency loss. I can only hear the beeps from my Edge 1000 if I’m in a quiet room. Plus the road surfaces around my area are quite coarse, so even tire noise is enough to drown out the beeps.

    • Justin B

      My 820 got noticeably louder for Varia alerts with the last update too. The beep sequence is different as well. Check to be sure you’re running the latest version.

  37. Jim Flesch

    Any idea when the 1030 will be refreshed or replaced?

    • I don’t expect soon.

    • Ed Felkerino

      We’re now starting to see sales on the 1030. One U.S. online retailer had it for $470 on Apr. 25 and then $510 on Apr. 26 with $51 in store credit. Maybe this is just the usual spring fitness device discounting, but may indicate Black Friday price cuts this fall and a successor in 2020.

  38. Michael Prytherch

    “ended up with incontinent experiences”… bloody hell I never realised using sports tech could do this to you LOL

  39. Tyler

    Ray-

    Do you know why ordering newly released devices from Garmin’s own website is commonly delayed 3-5 weeks after a new product release?
    Do they favor supplying their retailers before themselves?

    I get a small discount by ordering thru Garmin because of a company partnership.
    I can’t even add the items to my cart, to see what the discount might be.

    • Yes, it’s on purpose, and is to protect retailers.

      In fact, this time around you’ll notice that not even Amazon has the units – apparently for 30 days. Part of a strategy Garmin is doing to focus on specialty retailers.

    • Tyler

      Ah, makes sense.

      Thanks!

    • MartinD

      So, to get one of the new units in Germany (without waiting too many weeks for availibility) one of this speciality retailers would be Clever Training Europe from UK?

    • Olly

      I hope so, preordered mine from CT UK 😉

    • Olly

      Just checked by CT status, item had been postponed to end of May 🙁

    • Abhishek Sundaram

      Hi Olly,
      Where did you see that. Is it a generic status that has changed to end of May or can you see that against your order somewhere.
      I’ve preordered from CT USA

    • Hassing

      I talked to CT UK today after seeing the expected delivery had changed and I’m not sure even they know what the status is.

      They told me that those who ordered when it said “early may” would be getting them in early may – but they also said they wouldn’t be shipping any units until mid may and they weren’t sure they are getting enough units to cover all who ordered early on.

      Maybe Garmin is having production issues or underestimated the demand.

  40. Ken Kilmurray

    Another great review Ray. Will the 530 show overlapping Strava segments like the Wahoo Bolt does? IMO, that is the only advantage the Bold/Elemnt has over the 520.

  41. Graham Wynde

    Oh dear….am I going to feel like an even bigger dumdum for switching from an Edge 1030 to an 820 12 months ago ‘just’ because it didn’t fit on my integrated mount (and looked way too big)? I am not sure I can justify the cost of switch up to an 830 now even though the better uploading speed would be VERY welcome. Perhaps I should go down to a 530?

  42. Cleveland Waterman

    Can I move a course (route) onto the Garmin by just pinning the course in Ride with GPS? Or do I still have to go through the “connect Garmin to computer via USB and then move tcx file to New Files”.

  43. Eric H.

    Is this unit using the same basic platform as the 820?

    I know you like the Garmin navigation, but I’ve found the Bolt so much more reliable and with much better battery life than any of the Garmins I’ve owned (the last one was the 820) that the Bolt effectively performs better. Navigation is of no use if the unit mysteriously crashes/stops tracking the map/runs out of battery a few hours into a long ride.

    If Garmin has come up with a new software platform that proves more reliable, I’d take another look. Otherwise, hard pass.

    • Cleveland Waterman

      After years of suffering thru Garmin 1000 idiosyncrasies, I bought a Bolt. When it comes to mapping, the Bolt is years ahead of the Garmin. Unfortunately, the “beep” on the Bolt that I received from REI was almost inaudible. Others have reported that the beep was loud enough to make your ears bleed. Go figure. Anyway, back it went to REI.

    • Hmm, I’ve honestly never had an Edge 820 crash while navigating (or ever). Any chance you’ve just got something amiss with yours?

      Mapping-wise, there really is a substantial difference in terms of what Wahoo does versus Garmin. In basic course-following scenarios, it’s not as obvious (depending on where you created the route). Whereas when you do things like pull routes from Strava, or try to do something ad-hoc, it becomes more apparent.

  44. Jan

    Ray, can you comment a little more on the workout implementation: does it show target range for power and cadence like you can input on training peaks? Also do you know if it shows a 3sec power on that page instead of the instantaneous power like the 820 currently shows and which is useless?

    Also can you comment on how the screen brightness/readability compares to the Stages Dash units “soon” to be released?

    Thanks for your excellent reviews.
    Jan

  45. Gabrie van Zanten

    Hi. I saw in earlier comments the question on battery life. Yes, please do some extended testing. I just sold my 820 to buy a Wahoo next week. But I now learned about the 830. I loved the 820, but the max 5hr battery life when riding long gravelrides that require precise navigation made it useless for me. So I wanted to switch to Wahoo.

    Would love to see the battery life when navigating with map on display.

  46. Peter Z.

    Minor point – missing WiFi from feature list, though you cover in story fine. I just noticed it since I started with 520 review.

    Thanks for getting out the reviews so quickly

  47. Thierry Guertin

    I for one am disappointed by the fact the 830 i still the same size factor as the 500 series. Please bring back the old 800 unit size! The current form factor is too small to work well with touch screen and show maps well, and numbers are too small.

    The Edge 1030 is too big of a unit, and the newer font Garmin is using is not as legible as the more square but bigger fonts my Edge 810 had. Bring back the old font too! I could read the values easier on the smaller 810 unit.

    I really REALLY wish I had the Edge 810 form factor and screen functionality, but with the newer Garmin features (varia support, BT, live strava segments, etc).

  48. Bodo Schenker

    Hi,

    do you know, if there is also an activity for running to select?

  49. Shane

    Can I flip through the screens, using my di2 shifters on the Edge 530 in the same way I can on my 820? Is the battery life the same on the Edge 530 and Edge 830?

  50. John

    Nice that the 830 “road” bundle includes the updated ANT+/Bluetooth speed and cadence sensors (from the new
    sensor review
    ):

    “The good news here is that like the HRM-DUAL a few months back, these sensors become the baseline for new sensors included in various Garmin bundles. For example the new Edge 530 and Edge 830 units released today have these dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart sensors in their bundled variants.”

  51. Shawn Hime

    Question about the start/stop button. You mention, “Finally, once done you’ll press the ‘Stop’ button on the right corner, which pauses the recording. Press it again to save it. You’ll then get ride summary data…”. That’s contrary to the current 820 setup. Now, if you press the start/stop button it’ll pause the ride and pressing it again will restart recording. If what you say is true, how do you restart a ride if you’ve pressed the start/stop button? Or, are you saying there’s a button on the display to press?

  52. Nicholas

    Does anyone know of an easy way to transfer a route from ridewithgps to a garmin unit. I had a 1030 and really liked everything about it except the size and how hard it was to get a ridewithgps file on it without a computer. I really like how I can push a route to my Wahoo Bolt from my phone if I forget to sync it before I leave the house.

    • MarekK

      You can do this easily using the paired Android/CIQ apps gimporter & gexporter. Simply need to pull the gpx to your phone (using ridewithgps on through a browser) and then using the apps to export.

    • Marc Simkin

      Look at the routeCourse Connect IQ App (link to apps.garmin.com).

      Once configured it will automatically sync the Garmin device with RWGPS via your connected phone.

      -marc

  53. Zach

    Ray – when you view the map with Trailforks Data, does this still include the OSM trail data previously found on Garmin Units (as some of those trails haven’t made it to trailforks yet?)
    The reason I ask is because the Trailforks Basemaps I’ve downloaded – do not contain those trails as it doesn’t pull in all the OpenStreetMaps data.
    I’m hoping this includes (both).

  54. jayson fagar

    Hey Ray,

    Do you know what version of Bluetooth this and the new 530 has? Do you know if it’s 5.0? I ask primarily because of the increased battery performance and extended range.

    sorry for the double posting here and on youtube.

    thanks for the great review!

  55. Brent

    No thanks Garmin.
    Never again will I be suckered into buying Garmin’s cycling lineup of garbage devices.
    Nice review though, Ray.

  56. Colin Campbell

    Ray, you talk about the Find My Edge and Last Known Location features on the 830, but you don’t mention that the unit comes with a tether, so that you are less likely to have your Edge separate from the bike in the first place!

    I use the tether with my 1030, and recommend it to my friends.

    The new features are still nice, though, and as always, I enjoy your reviews. I started when I got a 705 (I didn’t know about your reviews yet), and have used them ever since to decide when or whether to buy new Garmin devices. I have Vector 1 & 2 pedals, Varia lights, the Edge 1030, and the battery pack currently.

  57. jJon

    Ray, great review. Could you please start including alert tones and volume controls in your evals. The volume should range from obnoxious to subtle. The tone should have options for high, medium, and low pitch.There are lots of people who have now or will have some form of hearing loss. Garmin has been aware of problems with Varia alerts being heard for over a year. The 830 should have addressed this.

  58. Fredrik H

    Looking at the comparison of features between the 1030 and 830, it seems like the only thing that 1030 has over the 830 is screen size. Do you see any reason to get a 1030 over a 830?

    link to dcrainmaker.com

  59. Roberto

    Hello Ray, can you tell me how turn by turn notifications work on garmin edge 830? Is it like the 820, where you just get a notification with street name and distance, or is it more like 800/810, where it will automatically change to map screen regardless what page you are using?

    Thanks

    • Graham

      On the 820 this is configurable – you can set it to just show the direction and text or to pop up a map view. I have it do the latter, and run it in battery save mode because like many others, my 820 battery life is ridiculous otherwise. Garmin support think it’s probably a firmware issue, but are sending me a replacement unit in case that helps. I had to threaten to take them to court to change their initial response of “we probably broke it, we don’t know if or when we’ll fix it, you can pay for a replacement or else go jump” though!

  60. Petucky

    Ray, maybe you would know – On official Garmin site for Edge 830 Mountain Bike Bundle, there is also a new speed sensor on the image (as it would be included) – link to buy.garmin.com

    But it’s not in the ‘In the Box’ list.

    Is it just a mistake on the image?

  61. Daniel

    What kind of charge cable does this use? I’m one photo it looked like the interface/charging pins were on the 1/4 turn mount. That would make charging on the go difficult, right?

    • Micro-USB. Yeah, charge direction makes it challenging for smaller mounts.

    • John

      The pins you are seeing on the quarter turn mount are for the bespoke (optional) Edge Battery Pack. The normal charging port is behind a little door between the start/stop and lap buttons (facing you as you ride).

  62. Charles M.

    Ray, great review as always. However, I almost peed myself when I saw this typo, “ended up with incontinent experiences.”

    Reminds me of an e-mail a coworker sent years ago after an IT system outage where he apologized for “any incontinence that the users might have experienced”.

  63. Eric

    Will the 830 have “real time Strava segments” like the 1030?

  64. David Lloyd

    My 810 screen worked with pretty much any glove. My 820 screen works when it feels like with 1 or 2 gloves… What’s the technology of the 830 screen? Like the 810 or the 820?
    Thanks for the review! I smashed my 810 racing last weekend so this is perfect timing.

  65. Zach

    From what I am reading on the sites to purchase (CleverTraining, Garmin, etc) – I would have to buy the Mountain bike bundle in order to get trailfork data?
    (I already have a remote, plenty of mounts, and speed / cadence sensors and don’t need anymore). – Just wanting to confirm I am not mis-reading this – as it looks like the stand-alone unit will *not* come with this.

    Also, your review sounds like the processing power is much better than the 820. Do you think the 830 will be faster than the 1030? (I find the 1030 VERRRRY sluggish in looking around the maps and navigating menus).

    • All units come with it, no bundle is required.

    • Zach

      Thanks Ray. I was actually in chat with support earlier and I’m not sure if they are clear on it. I asked if the bundle is needed to access TrailForks data and this is the reply below. This doesn’t make much sense, as it implies that the stand-alone device somehow requires a user to log into an app? I’m thinking this was just wrong info that they were unaware of, or they possibly gave you the MTB version?
      ————–
      Support: Both would have the trailforks maps. The difference would be the device only would need you to sign into a trailforks account to access them. The bundle, you don’t have to sign in.

      Me: so they both appear in the basemap without having to download them as ‘routes’ ?

      Support: Thanks for waiting, yes – you don’t have to download them as routes. They should be pre-loaded

      Me: ok, thanks. So neither would require logging in or connectivity to use?

      Support: The device only will require a trailforks account sign in. The bundles don’t require a sign in.
      ————–

    • Ahh, so interesting. I just dug through some docs I have on it.

      Yeah, there’s an authorization bit I had heard of, but I thought it was both units, looks like the authorization is only base units. It’s a one-time item that pop-ups the first time you setup the device. No paid membership/etc is required, but you need a Trailforks account to validate once. Basically, it’s how Trailforks knows how much to charge Garmin, like turning in tickets at a bake sale.

      I’ll add that in somewhere. Like I said, just a one-time thing that registers your device to use the data. It doesn’t require any further internet connectivity.

  66. Ben Hameen

    You forgot the most important part of a Garmin review…What buttons do you hold down to reset it when it crashes/freezes?

  67. Does the new Garmin Dual Heartrate belt do HRV R-R and is it compatible with elitehrv.com app?

  68. blueblus

    How many data fields in Map screen?
    Two data field is too few. I want to refer Speed, Gradient, Distance to a point, and Altitude.