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Garmin Edge 1040 (with Solar) In-Depth Review

With Garmin’s introduction of the Edge 1040 Series they’ve become the first GPS bike computer to not only add solar panels to it, but also add multiband GNSS, dramatically increasing the accuracy of the GPS tracks – especially in tougher conditions. Beyond that the company has added a slate of long-asked for upgrades, including things like USB-C support, metal mounting back/tabs, and dramatically faster route calculation and destination searching.

However, beyond that are the slate of new features we see anytime Garmin adds a new device. These include their new Power Guide function that creates race/training day plans/targets specific to a given course, while also adding in features that help identify your cycling ability and how that matches up to a given course’s demands. All while also laying the groundwork for more cycling-specific dynamic training plans that we saw introduced and hinted at on the Forerunner 255/955 last week.

I’ve been using the Edge 1040 Solar for a while now, putting it through its paces on everything from everyday rides to epic rides, indoor training to commutes. All of which ultimately culminates in this review based on real-world usage  and not just reading a specs sheet).

As usual, this unit is a media loaner, and it’ll go back to Garmin shortly. This review is not sponsored (nor does any company get to preview my review), furthermore I don’t take any advertiser money from any companies I review. And as regular readers know, if something is crap, I’m gonna tell it brutally like it is – no matter the brand (as Garmin saw just a few weeks ago). Once this unit goes back, I’ll go out and get my own for any future testing needs. If you found this review useful, you can use the links at the bottom, or consider becoming a DCR Supporter which makes the site ad-free, while also getting access to a mostly weekly video series behind the scenes of the DCR Cave. And of course, it makes you awesome.

What’s New:


The Edge 1040 is largely an evolutionary upgrade rather than a revolutionary one. Still, because of a complete re-design of the user interface, it effectively represents a break from the past. A dividing line if you will, and as such we see a slate of new features taking advantage of that UI redesign, as well as a handful of features being killed off.

I’ve gone through side by side of both units (1040 vs 1030 Plus), and tried to find every nuanced feature that’s different. Some of them are substantial (Power Guide or Multiband GNSS), and some of them less substantial (adding WiFi sync-all button). In any case, go forth:

– Added Solar ($749) and non-Solar model ($599)
– Added Power Glass specifically for Solar model only
– Increased storage from 32GB to 64GB for Solar model only
– Added pre-loaded North America & EMEA for base version
– Added pre-loaded North America, EMEA, AU/NZ Maps for Solar model only
– Added Multi-band/Dual Frequency GNSS/GPS
– Added USB-C connection
– Changed the back mount to be metal
– Completely revamped the user interface everywhere
– Changed lanyard attachment to not thread through the charging door
– Added Connect IQ Widget Glances to Homepage/Dashboard
– Added Power Guide for per-course training/racing guidance
– Added Up Ahead for distance to waypoints
– Added Cycling Ability to classify cyclist strengths/weaknesses
– Added Course Demands to compare course features to ride needs
– Added Real-Time Stamina to show energy/distance/duration left during workout
– Added Location Search Widget
– Added ‘Recent Finds’ from navigation panel (so things you recently searched for).
– Added new ‘Bike Shops’ & “Water Stops” categories for navigation search (and completely re-did other categories to mostly get rid of auto stuff)
– Added Post-Ride ClimbPro Splits on device
– Added re-scheduling of primary workouts
– Added support race/event driven Daily Suggested Workouts (subset of what was launched on FR255/955 last week)
– Added paired sensor information to summary page (even for non-Garmin sensors)
– Added support for Shimano STEPS sensor type (eBike component)
– Added new consolidated post-ride Highlights screen with PR’s
– Added estimated battery remaining when toggling Battery Saver mode
– Added manual WiFi sync all button (a ‘do it now’ option, but removed single-ride upload option)
– Added phone-based config of data fields/data pages
– Added Garmin Connect IQ App Store on-device marketplace
– Changed nearby POI/Things search to be fast AF now. Holy crap.
– Far faster route calculation times
– Increased ClimbPro coloring to show more gradient definition
– Now automatically changes map popularity type to match activity (I.e. Road vs MTB)
– Removed horrifically unreliable duplicate Bluetooth pairing process for phones
– Removed Varia Vision sensor support
– Removed device transfer (sharing between units)
– Removed 3D Map Orientation option (kinda looks like car GPS map)
– Same screen resolution as before
– Same touchscreen as before
– Increased weight slight from 126g to 133g
– Nearly Doubled battery life from 24 hours up to 45 hours (in Multi-Band GPS mode with Solar)

As usual, it’s common to ask whether any of these features will be added to any existing Edge units, and unfortunately this time the answer is no. While Garmin has added an insane number of features to the Edge 1030 since its release (including virtually all of the Edge 1030 Plus features), as well as a sizable number of features to the Edge 530/830/1030 Plus since their releases, this time around the new features aren’t being added downstream.

Garmin didn’t clarify why, though, I suspect it’s largely tied to the new user interface on the Edge 1040. Bringing those features down to older units would have required either updating the UI on those older units, or, changing the code on the newer features to work in the older UI (which in turn has more developer time associated with it). Of course, that doesn’t change the reality that the Edge 1030 Plus especially, as well as older units, are largely fully capable technically-speaking of receiving future firmware updates, they just won’t from a business standpoint.

Meanwhile, we’ve seen both Wahoo & Hammerhead continue to add features updates to older units. Albeit even in those cases, that continuation for the oldest devices has somewhat faded. For Hammerhead, the majority but not all of the new features are both Karoo versions (of course, Hammerhead is releasing so many new features every two weeks it’s insane), whereas in Wahoo’s cases, their new feature train has mostly died.

Size Comparisons:

To begin, here’s a look at how the new Edge 1030 Plus (left) compares to the Edge 1040 (right):

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Then, here’s a lineup against some popular units these days (Edge 830, Wahoo ROAM, Stages L200, Hammerhead Karoo 2, Garmin Edge 1030 Plus, Garmin Edge 1040 Solar):


And finally, here’s a weigh-in of all of them:

Got all that? Good, let’s start using it.

The Basics:


This section will start off with some basic aspects of using a Garmin Edge series device, but will cover newness in the Edge 1040 as I go along, getting deeper and deeper. Note that I’ve separated out the Solar, Mapping/Navigation, and new Training Load type features into separate sections after this. Everything in every section except the Solar unit, applies to both models.

Starting with the user interface, the Edge 1040 is a touchscreen interface, but also has three physical buttons for certain features. The buttons are used for starting/stopping an activity, as well as creating a lap. And powering on/off the unit. In other words, things that you generally do rarely or very purposefully. Meaning that while the touchscreen is pretty good, like any touchscreen, accidents can happen.


The touchscreen seems to work quite well in either sunny or rainy conditions, and with or without gloves. Even all-out dumping rain with standing water on the screen, and it still works just fine. The display resolution and touchscreen are the same as before, though the clarity will look better because of the new fonts (and inversely, also like the slightest bit darker on the Solar edition).

Next, and perhaps most importantly, Garmin switched to USB-C for the Edge 1040. Given they’ve been working their way through adding USB-C to other devices this year, this likely comes as no surprise. And is solidly on the “Flippin’ finally!” realm.


They also changed the mount on the back to be aluminum, as well as changed the location of the lanyard string to not be through the charging port door (much cleaner). The mount still supports Garmin’s Extended Battery Pack, in the event 100 hours of battery life by itself still isn’t enough for you.


When you first unbox the Edge 1040 you’ll likely pair it up with Garmin Connect Mobile on your smartphone. If you do so, and if you have an existing Garmin Edge device, it’ll transfer over your sport profiles/data pages/settings, as well as all your paired sensors. In my case, due to a now-fixed bug, it did not transfer my sport profiles over, but did transfer over all my sensor profiles.

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Most notably as part of that pairing process is they’ve done away with the frustrating dual-Bluetooth pairing they used to do, which paired both a legacy Bluetooth connection and a newer Bluetooth Smart connection, which was prone to connection issues. That’s gone now.

Once turned on, you’ll find the newly revamped interface on the Edge 1040. The main shift here is towards a homepage/dashboard that roughly matches the Widget Glances functionality that’s been on their wearables a few years. The idea being you can customize this, download widgets to it for various things, and tweak it to however you like it.


Up at the top you’ve got your activity/ride profiles. You might create one for road biking, one for mountain, one for commuting, and so on. Each of these can have vastly different settings, from map/navigation settings, to data pages and data fields, ClimbPro settings, timers/alerts, GPS configurations, etc…

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Looking at data pages for example, you’ve got a slate of predefined pages (including things like Strava Live Segments), and then you can create pretty much as many custom pages as you want. Custom pages can have up to 10 data fields per page, and there’s likely hundreds of different data fields you can choose from. And that ignores all the Garmin Connect IQ data fields from 3rd parties you can add (for free).

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Notably, you can now manage and edit all data fields/pages/settings from your phone – just like recently seen on the Fenix 7, Forerunner 255/955, and Instinct 2 series.

Going back to the widget glances for a second, you’ll find them customizable and covering everything from quick access to navigation, to your ride history, as well as your training plan (if one is created). If connected to your phone via Bluetooth, you’ll get weather data and any smartphone notifications.


Next, there’s sensor pairing. That’s located within the sensors menu, and lets you pair up any ANT+ or Bluetooth Smart sensor:

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The Edge 1040 Series supports the following sensor types:

Heart Rate (ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart), Speed/Cadence (ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart), Garmin VIRB (ANT+), Cycling Lights (ANT+), Cycling Radar (ANT+), Cycling Power (ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart), Garmin inReach (ANT+), Garmin Edge Remote (ANT+), Shimano STEPS (Proprietary Shimano ANT), eBike (ANT+), Gear Shifting (ANT+), Shimano Di2 (Proprietary Shimano ANT), Smart Trainer (ANT+)

Notably, this adds Shimano STEPS sensors, which are eBike sensors, while concurrently removing Garmin Varia Vision sensor support. Speaking of removals, they also removed device transfers between units, which was previously used for sharing courses and such. While it sucks that they removed it, the feature hardly worked well to begin with. So I’m not sure it’s a huge loss.

One cool thing that they added in the sensor realm is that at the end of the ride, it’ll actually show you not only which sensors were paired in the summary screen, but the battery status for those sensors (including non-Garmin sensors when broadcast):


Next, there’s the new multiband/dual-frequency GNSS/GPS. This is considered the holy-grail of GPS accuracy. You can quickly glance at the top settings to see which GPS mode it’s in, as it’ll show a small “+” when in multiband. You can change this on a per-activity profile basis:

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Multiband GPS can produce astonishing results in harder conditions like trees, mountains, buildings – as I’ve shown in my Fenix 7/Epix/Forerunner 955/Forerunner 255 reviews. At the same time, there’s also a significant battery hit (roughly halves your battery). And for most on-road rides, you simply don’t need multiband GPS. So you can go back to ‘All Systems’ or even ‘Base’ GPS, and still get results equal to or better anything you had on your existing Garmin Edge 1030/1030 Plus (and thus, double your battery). More on that in the accuracy section. Here’s Garmin’s official battery specs:

Demanding use (Multi-Band GPS)
– 35 hours / up to 45 hours with solar charging
– Solar charging adds up to 20 minutes per hour during daytime riding
– Demanding specifically means: Multiband GPS, 4 sensors connected, Live Track enabled, an on the map page with a course loaded

Battery Saver mode:
– 70 hours / up to 100 hours with solar charging
– Solar charging adds up to 42 minutes per hour during daytime riding

So at this point, with everything set, we’ll just start a simple ride. It’ll usually find GPS within a couple seconds, and find sensors once activated within a few seconds as well. You’ll chose your activity profile and then press start. At which point you’ll see real-time data on the screens, and it’ll be recording in the background:

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As you can see, all of this is pretty much like any other bike computer. The fonts are a bit different of course than before with the new user interface, but by and large, it’s pretty much same-same. And, like before, it all works well.

Post-ride, there’s a slew of changes however, starting with a new achievements summary page that outlines any PR’s for the ride, as well as the training impact/load/recovery time, and then if on the solar model – the solar related bits.

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After that you’ve got a second more detailed post-ride page that gets into crazy-town on the detailed stats, broken out into different sections that are easier to digest. Here’s a galley of all that:

As usual, all this gets sent up to Garmin Connect via Bluetooth/WiFi (or even USB), and then is visible on Garmin Connect Mobile or the desktop site. And of course, if you’ve got any linked accounts like Strava, TrainingPeaks, Today’s Plan, Final Surge, etc… it’ll instantly send the data to them as well.

Finally, for lack of anywhere else to put it, the Edge 1040 does have WiFi connectivity. That’s for syncing rides, courses, firmware, and everything except maps. Maps via WiFi would be logical, but I’ll rant about that later in this post. However, what is cool is that Garmin added a new Sync Now button. I know this sounds trivial, but previously this didn’t exist. You could sorta fake it by going deep into a single historical workout and triggering it there for a given ride, but this new button makes WiFi sync easy:


I find that generally speaking, WiFi sync just works more reliably than phone sync, especially for courses or such – or, if I’ve got other Garmin devices already doing syncs (like a watch or such). But perhaps that’s just me.

Garmin has also added in a new Connect IQ app store for the Edge 1040, that’s on-deice itself. This is prominently displayed in the lower right corner of the unit, and takes you to a list of recommended apps. Of which, there are basically just a couple (literally, three).


As I criticized last week in my Forerunner 255 & Forerunner 955 review, having just 2-6 specific Recommended Apps here (that don’t change) is entirely useless and defeats the point of this concept. I should see weekly recommendations of cool new apps, ideally from a blend of big and smaller developers. There’s countless new CIQ apps available, and showing me the same tired big-name apps that all of us have ignored for years isn’t likely to get me to increase my usage of those apps. Either I already have them, or I didn’t want them years ago. Showing me the same apps forever isn’t going to change that.

With that, let’s dive into Solar features next before circling back on navigation/routing and other training load features.

Solar Features:


This section is focused entirely on the solar edition of the Edge 1040, which includes the solar panel technology. This solar panel (obviously) provides solar power for the unit, which increases the battery life both while you’re riding, and also (in theory) while just chillin’ on a table in the sun non-riding.

Starting with the Solar panel itself, it’s divided into basically two types. The first is the most obvious portion of the panel at the top/bottom of the screen (the reddish portions above). This is the visible portion, and has a photovoltaic level of 100%. In the most simplified explanation, 100% of the sun’s goodness that hits this portion of the panel gets converted to extra juice (there’s a lot of technical nuances to that, but again, simplicity here).

However, over the entire display is another solar panel that has a 15% photovoltaic level (a notable increase over the Fenix 7 & Forerunner 955 panels which are 7% photovoltaic levels). This main panel is obviously far larger than the upper/lower panels, but harvests less energy since it’s just 15% versus 100%. But, you can see though it, so it’s essentially invisible to you. That’s what Garmin calls ‘Solar Glass’, because it’s actually glass.

Out in the sun while riding you’ve got a new Solar data page that shows you the exact solar power you’ve gained (in minutes:seconds), the average solar intensity for the ride, as well as a little graph showing the solar intensity throughout the ride:


Then post-ride you’ll see the same in a few different places, showing your ride totals:


This is also shown in Garmin Connect where you’ll see your summary for the ride there displayed:


Garmin’s solar battery claims are based on 75,000 lux conditions (a measure of brightness), which is another increase over their previous baseline claims of 50,000 lux conditions for their Fenix/Instinct/Forerunner units. This is actually a more useful change, because 50,000 lux conditions really aren’t that high. Even in the winter, on a sunny day in the Netherlands I can hit 70,000 lux. Whereas in the summer in a warmer locale, I can hit 125-150,000 lux. Garmin will harvest any extra lux it gets, so it’s not limited to 75,000 lux.

To put in context what this all means, check out this 4hr Mont Ventoux ride from a few days ago. This was a looped ride, and the bulk of the main climb was actually under cloudy/light rain conditions. However, as we neared the summit it got sunny and the solar harvesting estimates were jumping crazy high, I presume due to a combination of summer-sun and high altitude means even higher lux conditions.


Ultimately, I ended the ride with 31 minutes gained. This means that my battery run rates put me at an estimated 46 hours of battery life (with Multi-Band GPS, course/navigation enabled, ClimbPro enabled, Power Guide enabled, ANT+ Power, Di2, Heart Rate, and Bluetooth LiveTrack to my phone.) And again, the first half of the ride it was raining/overcast.


Another shorter 2hr 21 minute ride the next day in very hot & sunny (but a bit hazy) conditions in the south of France gained me 27 minutes and DesFit 33 minutes. Interestingly, we decided to test whether the Edge 1040 would produce different battery estimates in different GPS modes. So he left his in multi-band configuration, and I put mine in ‘All Systems’ GPS configuration (the middle option), which is equivalent to an Edge 1030 Plus accuracy-wise. This would in theory improve my battery life compared to his, and thus, I’d get a higher Solar gain time. In reality, it doesn’t appear that the time-gained Solar widget accounts for your GPS settings.

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And it doesn’t seem like this had any meaningful impact on battery life either, since both of our units had near-identical battery burn rates, with battery life projections of nearly 60 hours (and again, all the same things enabled).


Meanwhile, when the sun goes away, so does the extra juice. Here’s an evening pre-sunset ride, where we only gained two minutes after 76 minutes of riding:

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When you power off the Edge 1040 Plus, it actually gives you this screen which shows/explains to you the current solar intensity level, and how to place your unit on a surface for continued solar capture in the sun:


Those results can honestly be more impressive. Yesterday I just placed mine in the sun for about 2 hours, with 70,000 lux occasionally cloudy conditions, and it gained 49 minutes of battery life. Depending on your windows and sun, you could literally just leave your Edge 1040 Solar in the windows and have it charge itself back up most days.

Of course, you’d also gain that battery life in just a couple minutes plugged in. And while harvesting the sun is better for the environment, it’s not entirely a zero sum game. Especially when that privilege costs you an extra $150.

Mapping & Navigation:


While one may buy the Edge 1040 due to its large screen, the most likely reason you’d buy such an expensive beast is for its navigation features. There’s no bike computer on the market that comes close in terms of navigation related features, and the Edge 1040 extends that slightly in a couple of updated/new areas:

– Addition of “Up Ahead” Waypoint planning/display
– Dramatically faster calculation times
– Revamped categorization of POI groups (including adding bike shops & water stops)
– New location search & search history
– Power Guide on courses (more in next section)
– Included maps for more regions in Solar bundle

Of course, this is in addition to all the existing core mapping & navigation functions:

– Course routing (from files, Garmin Connect, or 3rd party sites)
– ClimbPro climb navigation/details
– Searching for points of interest nearby to navigate to
– Searching for specific addressees to navigate to
– Creating round-trip course on the fly based on desired distance
– Built-in heatmap/popularity map data
– MTB-specific trail data
– Routing to saved locations

Which isn’t to say it’s all perfect, or necessarily the leader in every part of every category. In fact, the first area that probably shows some of those cracks is the map loading. On the Edge 1040 it’ll come with the maps for your region you bought it in, whereas the Edge 1040 Solar comes with maps for North America, EMEA (Europe/Middle East/Africa), and Australia/New Zealand. This is because the Edge 1040 base edition has 32GB of storage, whereas the Edge 1040 Solar has 64GB of storage. Fear not though, if you have an Edge 1040 base, you can still load fully detailed Garmin maps (for free), using Garmin Express on our computer via USB cable:


However, this falls short of what all their competitors have in terms of WiFi map downloads (Hammerhead/Wahoo/Stages/Sigma), and even their own wearables groups, which supports map downloads via WiFi on the Fenix 7/Epix/Tactix 7/Forerunner 955. I just don’t understand how/why this isn’t supported here. And this is just one of many clear disconnects between two groups within the same overall division (Fitness, covering Forerunner & Edge devices). More on those later.

No matter, the maps you’ll get on the Garmin Edge series are very good, and include all of the so-called ‘popularity’ data, which is basically heatmap data on them. However, they won’t show actual heatmaps like the Hammerhead Karoo does, which is tremendously useful when ad-hoc riding or changing a route, and want to just glanceable look at the roads around you to see where people actually ride.

Still, if you do specifically route somewhere, then the underlying data is there, and arguably, Garmin’s underlying data is far more complete and detailed than Hammerhead’s (which is based on Suunto’s smaller data set).

In any case, for today’s ride we’re gonna load a course. In my case, I created the course in Strava, and it synced over automatically. However, you can also create the course on numerous platforms that support automatic sync, or simply manually create courses in Garmin Connect.

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This course has a substantial climb in it, being Mont Ventoux, and as such, you’ll see the climbs listed within ClimbPro.


ClimbPro is by far my favorite Garmin feature, and lets you see the exact details of the climb as you ride it, including details on distance/ascent/grade remaining till the top, as well as your position on the climb. The Edge 1040 significantly increases the ClimbPro coloring to show more detail now, with different gradients more clearly shown on the climbs.


Now in the Garmin world, this still requires a course be loaded, whereas Hammerhead doesn’t require any course loading. That’s a huge point for Hammerhead, but inversely, Garmin’s data is consistently more accurate. On Hammerhead I constantly get incorrect upcoming grade information (hugely incorrect), versus Garmin tends to smooth it a bit more and is ultimately actually accurate. Still, I don’t see why Garmin can’t add in ClimbPro on-demand like Hammerhead (or inversely, why Hammerhead can’t do a better job at smoothing out inaccuracies).

While riding a route you’ll get turn by turn notifications each time a turn is required. It’ll display a little mini-amp that includes turn information as you approach each turn:


If you go off-course, it’ll give you options for getting back on course (and if you ignore it, it’ll just take care of it for you). This happened 3-4 weeks ago when I ran into some road closures that dramatically changed my route, and it sorted things out as I just rode along. If you’re riding to a destination you’ve set on the Edge itself (as opposed to a course), it won’t even bother you with re-route notifications, it just does it instantly and silently – making up for your mistakes.

The re-calculation times are virtually instant here. Whether or not that’s because they’ve changed how they display recalculations is probably the better question. Previously, Garmin would show you the slow recalculation progress at the top, but in reality, you could always ride immediately. It was calculating the full route – miles before you ever got there. Realistically, you didn’t need to know that. So whether it’s actually faster, or they just hid the part you don’t need to know – I don’t know. But either way, it’s instant gratification. For funsies: On the Edge 1030 Plus, the calculating route took 1 minute 58 seconds to complete a 55KM course, on the Edge 1040 it was instant.


Speaking of instant gratification, there’s the new search function, which allows you to search for pretty much anything. It’s like Google on an Edge. Towns, cafe’s, mountains, etc… Just search and it finds it – usually in under 5 seconds, sometimes instantly. And, it saves your search history too, making it easy to find perhaps foreign words that you painstakingly typed it slowly, only to previously have to type again.

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You can also search within point of interest (POI) categories. This includes a totally revamped category set, largely getting rid of automotive categories. Those things are still there, but they just aren’t top of the list and prominent anymore. Instead, first on the list is bike shops, which even pulled open bike pumps and compressor locations.

All of these things are routable on-demand. So you can just tap them and route to it. And again, all of them are virtually instant to search for and route to. Riding along this past weekend I was searching for all sorts of things easily (on a closed bike path with zero people around because it was too stupid hot to be outside), without any delay. It was amazing.

A new feature on the Edge 1040 is the addition of Up Ahead waypoints. This allows you to add waypoints in Garmin Connect for items, along with custom icons. The idea being you can add potential café stops, sprint lines, race-specific climbs, or whatever the heck you want:


Then, out on the road there’s a new Up Ahead page, that works in real-time to tell you how far (via route) that next point is.


This is super helpful when you just want a glanceable look at how far that blueberry pie slice from Chalet Reynard might be.


The only downside though, is that this feature doesn’t appear to utilize either the known course grade or even Power Guide to figure out the estimated times. In the example above, it shows the top at only 22 minutes away, despite being 9% and 9KM away. Obviously, that ain’t gonna happen. In talking with Garmin, the feature currently uses your average speed to date (on that activity). Obviously, if your route includes flats/descents beforehand, that’ll adversely impact it (as it did for us).

Ultimately, the main changes on the Edge 1040 when it comes to mapping and navigation are around dramatic speed improvements, and cleanliness of the user interface, as well as increasing details on things like Climbs.  The ancillary major new feature I cover in the next section (Power Guide) depends on courses, but isn’t really navigation per se. Thus, thing of most of the 1040 changes as incremental in terms of new features, but massively faster in terms of ability to use them

Power Guide & New Training Load Pieces:


This section is a bit of a combo-dish of new features that have arrived on the Edge 1040 that are largely focused on training load, racing, structured workouts, or categorization of you or your courses. In other words, this section is all about the new Edge 1040 features that are trying to make you faster.

At the core of things are the following main new features:

– Power Guide: This creates a complete race or training plan for a given course
– Cycling Ability: This identifies your cycling strength areas
– Real-Time Stamina: This tells you how far you can ride at a given intensity level, and if that’s sustainable
– Course Demands: This shows whether your cycling ability to handle this course well (or not)

There are more training load and recovery features of course from before, but the above are the main new ones. I’ll cover those mixed in here though as we plod along.

Let’s start with what is the most interesting of the group, which is Power Guide. Power Guide is akin to a race-plan for the power targets you need to hit, to achieve a certain time. This requires a power meter. In effect, it’s like a highly detailed race plan (perhaps a bit too highly detailed). For those familiar with Best Bike Split, or Garmin’s own running Pace Pro, it’s sorta a blend between those two.

To begin, Power Guide requires you have a course/route planned. Once that’s done, you’ll create your Power Guide program on either Garmin Connect Mobile (smartphone app), or Garmin Connect web (online). You’ll choose the course, and then from there you’ll specify the terrain type (if not already listed), as well as your weight, bike, and gear weight (and can change your FTP):


After that you’ve got a simple slider that goes from ‘Easier’ to ‘Harder’, which is divided up into 10 levels. As you change that slider, it increases your power levels (and decreases your estimated completed time).

Down below, it’s subdivided the course into a million chunks. Each chunk is based on the specific terrain, so for example 4% vs 2% grade. The longer and more varying in terrain the course, the more chunks you’ve got. For example, compare this ~60KM route up Mont Ventoux and back down a different side with more rolling terrain. Garmin says the minimum segment (chunk) length is 200m. For Mont Ventoux and this ride I ended up with 40 segments.


From there, you’ll send this to the Edge 1040, where you can choose to enable it on the course you ride. Once a plan is created, you can also tweak this on the Edge 1040 too:

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Once done, you’ll see this new Power Guide screen, which handily also includes a built-in ClimbPro mini-screen if you have climbs within it.


At the top of the screen you’ve got the current section, which you can kinda think of as a lap. Again, depending on the terrain this could be very short or very long. Then below that you’ve got your 3-second power, guide planned power for this section, and your power for this section.

Below that is a terrain map with little blue dots indicating ups and downs in the power. And then below that is either a mini ClimbPro chart, or, on flatter sections, this is replaced with a mini-map and a some summary stats on the right side. Below you see 21w for the Guide Average. That was a bug that was fixed since my ride on Friday.


What’s cool about this feature is that it’s not as naggy as having a ‘proper’ structured workout loaded in the unit. Unlike a structured workout, this doesn’t chirp/beep the entire time at each target change, or, if you’re out of zone. Plus, unlike a structured workout, you can change your target easy/hardness level (1-10) mid-ride. That as useful for me on Mont Ventoux when I may have set it a wee bit high, and then reigned it in slightly as I got settled in on the climb.

Now while this feature works great for solo rides/races/training, it won’t work so well in group rides or races with any sort of group/peloton. That’s because your power levels will drop in the draft, which will confuse this. Further, the ranges it gives are pretty big – upwards of an hour.

Next, there’s the new Course Demands feature. This allows you to load up any course and see what type of aerobic and anaerobic capacity you need to excel on this course, with the little marks noting the course demands relative to your capacity in colored sections:


Practically speaking, I’m not sure this feature really adds much in its current iteration. I can’t imagine anyone looking at this and going “Oh, this course needs more aerobic capacity, I’ll skip it”. I get what Garmin is going for here, in demonstrating your potential shortcomings, but this kinda comes across as noise.

Slightly more interesting is the new Cycling Ability widget, which shows you what type of cyclist you are. For me, it initially identified me as a Flat Specialist, though later changed that to Endurance Specialist. You can tap to see an analysis of that with a smidge more detail.

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Much of this of course ties in with the training load and load focus components, which have been around the Garmin ecosystem previously. The Training Load piece shows your load over the last 7 days, and shows you whether that load is appropriate to what your recent history (last four weeks). It’s a little wonky that Garmin doesn’t match this with the revamped Acute Load launched last week on the Forerunner 255/955 and coming to the Fenix 7/Epix/FR945 LTE. It’s very similar, but Acute load is better weighted, better named, and has better ‘tunnel’ guidance to help you more.

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Meanwhile, your four week load shows up under Load Focus, which categorizes that training:


Now it’s worthwhile nothing that post-ride you’ll get an estimated recovery time until your next hard ride. If you have another Garmin device (mainly, wearables), this will contribute via Physio True-Up into that, to allow for recovery planning. However, by itself without other Garmin wearables, the recovery time metric probably isn’t super useful, since it’s not going to account for things like sleep or other sports.


Now, we do need to circle back to Stamina. This feature gives you real-time pacing into how much time/distance you have left till you die. Or, at least until you collapse. The theory behind this is that it looks at your current recovery time (from previous workout), as well as your heart rate to power ratios, and figures out how long you can sustain a given effort for. This was introduced on the Fenix & Epix watches, and then carried through to the Garmin Forerunner 955 as well. This is a real-time metric that doesn’t require having anything loaded. Here’s an example of it on a ride as I just cruised along:


Now, as I kick up the power levels and heart rate, it instantly starts to reduce my viable distance/time. Basically, it’s telling me how long/far I can go at that given intensity. Certainly, you can’t sustain a sprint forever, and this illustrates that:


When the little bar is green, that means you’re recovering or otherwise good. If it’s red, that means you’re burning the candle faster than you can likely recover.

Up until this past Friday, I’ve found Stamina incredibly accurate and on-point. Months of using it on the Fenix 7/Epix, and then Forerunner 955, it’s surprisingly good at nailing rides and how I feel, and how much energy I have left. But this past Mont Ventoux ride I finally managed to kill Stamina on both the Edge 1040 and Forerunner 955. Or, it killed me.


Going into it, my Recovery Time was high from not just a ride the night prior, but also previous workouts. Add to that, it was being impacted by poor/no sleep, travel, and everything else. Here we are, about 3hrs or so into the ride, you can see, I’m dead. Yet, I still then pedaled on another 15-20KM including climbs.


Now what’s interesting, is looking at the data. One might argue I managed to pace this climb as perfectly as my ability allows, because I basically flat-lined just after the peak. Of course, the question then becomes – what is the definition of 0% Stamina? Is it “You cannot pedal anymore” or is it “You can uselessly continue pedaling, but you’re shot”?

So in this case, I went back to Garmin (without any context on my question) and asked for the definition of Stamina and what happens when you reach 0%. Herman Bonner, one of Garmin’s FirstBeat leads explained:

“When your Stamina and Potential Stamina are both zeroing out together, expect your ability to race in a meaningful way to be severely compromised.  It doesn’t mean that you are unable to put one foot in front of the other, falling off your bike, or passed out on the ground.

And similarly: If your Stamina is zeroing and you have Potential Stamina remaining, expect your ability to sprint/climb hard to be severely compromised, but you can probably drop your intensity safely below your anaerobic threshold and keep going.”

In this case, that’s pretty much exactly what happened. I dropped below my threshold, and kept on chugging along slowly to get to the hotel where fresh French baguettes, fresh French cheeses, and cookies awaited. But, at the same time, I was shot. There was nothing left in the tank on the descent, and it shows in my power numbers.

And this ultimately matches the same experience in other times where I’ve managed to basically zero it out, including one 7-hour ride earlier this year on the Fenix 7, arriving back at the hotel with 1% remaining (and I was shot then too). So to that end, this feature seems to be working pretty well for me

GPS Accuracy:


There’s likely no topic that stirs as much discussion and passion as GPS or heart rate accuracy.  A watch could fall apart and give you dire electrical shocks while doing so, but if it shows you on the wrong side of the road?  Oh hell no, bring on the fury of the internet!

GPS accuracy can be looked at in a number of different ways, but I prefer to look at it using a number of devices in real-world scenarios across a vast number of activities.  I use 2-6 other devices at once, trying to get a clear picture of how a given set of devices handles conditions on a certain day.  Conditions include everything from tree/building cover to weather.

In almost all these tests, the Edge 1040 Solar was in the default multiband configuration, the highest GPS accuracy. Though, I also did some in regular GPS mode too, just out of curiosity to see how it’d do.

To spoil you bothering to read this section, I’ll simply say upfront that there’s no bike computer anywhere near the accuracy of the Edge 1040. Just like what we’re seeing with Garmin’s other new multiband GPS-enabled units, the accuracy continues to get better and better. And that’s especially the case in more challenging terrain/conditions, where it really shows how impressive it is (see my recent Forerunner 955 review for that).

Nonetheless, here’s a few samples, starting off with a 50KM ride through the French countryside, including some forested sections, but also some tiny villages where we purposefully ‘explored’ the tight buildings. And in this case, I had my unit on regular GPS, while Des had his 1040 on multi-band GPS. We rode side by side. Starting off the high level, things look pretty normal.


As we go around round-abouts, it’s absolutely perfect tracks:


But check out this section here, inside this tiny town with some ‘roads’ barely 2 meters wide. You can see just how tight the two Edge 1040 tracks are, despite being blocked by 2-3 story buildings.


So let’s step it up. Here we’ve got a ride up Mont Ventoux, then back down a different size with more twisty roads and sharper cliffs. Again, at a high level, things look totally fine (this is compared to a Hammerhead Karoo 2, Forerunner 955, and Forerunner 255):


But the separation is in the detail. Check out this deep forested section and look at how perfect the Edge 1040 is – on the correct side of this tiny mountain road, where the Karoo 2 is on the other side.


Or here during fast descents, where the Edge 1040 Solar correctly hugs the inside line of the road. The Karoo pulls a Lance Armstrong and cuts the corner, while the two watches are out in the middle of the road. I know this is trivial stuff, but it’s fascinating to see.


When you’re looking at more generic sections of roadway on the mountain, they look closer, but you can still see the differences in track stability compared to the Karoo 2 and how that wobbles a bit.


As far as elevation on this one, the Garmin 1040 and Forerunner 955 slowly drifted together, whereas the Karoo 2 and Forerunner 255 slowly drifted together. Which one was right? Well, the top elevation of Mont Ventoux is listed as 1,909m, and the Edge 1040/955 combo was 1,892 (vs 1,843 for the Karoo 2/FR255 combo). So the 1040 was the closest here.


Last up for now, we’ve got a ride including some tunnels/bridges and other goodness out into the countryside:


Check out this section over this bridge, where it puts me exactly on the edge of the bridge, within bike path. Not off the bridge in the water, not in traffic, but exactly on the bike path:


About the only tiny blip I could find was here, when I pass under a set of railroad tracks in a tunnel, and in one direction it’s flawless, but in the other direction where I make a 90* turn right before the tunnel, once it loses GPS it seems to try and continue the turn angle for a few meters. But c’mon, this is really nitpicking.


Additionally, while I wasn’t able to get any mountain biking in this go around, my friend DesFit did include a bunch in his video review, which you can review here.

Ultimately, all of the data DesFit, GPLAMA, and Myself see across these units is astonishingly good, and inline with other multiband GPS efforts we’ve seen from Garmin, which lay down very impressive tracks – especially in harder situations.

(Note: All of the charts in these accuracy portions were created using the DCR Analyzer tool.  It allows you to compare power meters/trainers, heart rate, cadence, speed/pace, running power, GPS tracks and plenty more. You can use it as well for your own gadget comparisons, more details here.)



It’s pretty easy to say the Edge 1040 Solar is the most advanced and accurate bike GPS we’ve seen to date, from any company. And I’m pretty sure it’s also the longest-lasting bike GPS too battery-wise, with the potential to go well beyond its published battery specs. As I’ve seen and shown with stats above, it easily almost doubles their published official specs under the most ‘demanding’ power-draw scenarios, despite just half-hearted sun conditions. And if we look at the new multi-band GPS and accuracy, it continues to lead the way, even slightly edging out the newest Forerunner 955.

The new software features like Power Guide can potentially be super useful to the right groups of people (namely those that train or race individually). Personally, I find the Up Ahead feature more useful on longer rides to be able to figure out how far I have untill certain waypoints/locations at a quick glance. The same goes for Stamina, I find that’s a good proxy for when I’ll bonk, and perhaps change my pacing strategy to compensate for it.

Still, there are some quirks that show the lack of lockstep within the Garmin realm – especially when compared with the higher-end Forerunner 955 that was launched just last week. That includes WiFi map downloads (the Edge 1040 doesn’t), and also has the newer training load/recovery terminology that the Edge 1040 lacks. Garmin says that the Edge 1040 will start to incorporate these newer metrics in Q3 later this year, but I just feel like this kind of stuff should be baseline matching for a company like Garmin on flagship releases.

As I noted in my video, I ran into a substantial number of mostly minor bugs during my testing period. However, the latest firmware update yesterday seems to have checked off and fixed each issue I’ve had, which included numerous sync issues, cases of the unit having amnesia, and forgetting what I did the day before (rides/PR’s/etc…), as well as incorrect power guide data. At this point, only time will tell though, none of the issues I could easily repeat on-demand last week are happening now with this latest firmware. One issue I do want to revisit is slow gradient changes, for which I did see issues last week, but need to double-check it on a hill later today (I don’t have many/any suitable hills near me, so that requires a bit of travel). I’ll report back on that one. There’s often a balance there between accuracy and responsiveness. [Update: My bugs are back. Both the amnesia one and Power Guide. Garmin says they now know what’s causing both, and it’ll be fixed in the first update release. I don’t have an exact date, but sounds like a days thing rather than a weeks thing. Also, others are reporting issues when you install a CIQ data field, it’ll cause sensor dropouts.]

Ultimately though, if you’re on an older Edge unit, or, looking for arguably the best bike computer in the market, the Edge 1040 or Edge 1040 Solar won’t disappoint. I’m not sure it’s worthwhile upgrading from an Edge 1030 Plus, but I think if you’ve got just about anything else, it’ll feel like an entirely new device – both in capabilities, but also accuracy, and battery life.

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Here's a few other variants or sibling products that are worth considering:

And finally, here’s a handy list of accessories that work well with this unit (and some that I showed in the review). Given the unit pairs with ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart sensors, you can use just about anything though.

This magnetless Garmin Cadence Sensor attached to your crank arm and transmits cadence over both ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart to apps, watches, or bike computers.

This is a set of Garmin magnetless speed and cadence sensors. Both transmits over ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart, but the speed sensor also can record rides without a bike computer - perfect for using on a commuter bike.

Garmin RTL515 Varia Radar

The Garmin Varia radar alerts you to cars coming up behind you, well before you see them. It's awesome for quieter roads (country roads/mountains), especially on longer rides. It's less useful for city riding.

The Garmin Varia radar alerts you to cars coming up behind you, well before you see them. It's awesome for quieter roads (country roads/mountains), especially on longer rides. It's less useful for city riding. The RVR315 skips the light.

This magnetless Garmin speed sensor transmits your speed on ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart, but more notably, it also has memory so it can save rides even when not paired to a bike computer/watch, then quietly offloads them to your phone later on. Perfect for a commuter bike.

The Edge remote allows you to control functions (like data pages/screens, and laps) wirelessly right from your handlebars/drops. Super handy for mountain biking where taking your hands off the bars might be a bad idea.

Garmin Edge Snap-on Battery

If you need to go *REALLY* long with a Garmin Edge device, this snap-on/under weatherproof battery pack basically gets you double your battery life. It snaps under your existing Edge with an included mount. It can also be used as a standard USB battery back too (for your phone/etc...).

The HRM-DUAL strap transmits not only concurrently on ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart, but actually has two Bluetooth channels, making it perfect for pairing to Zwift at the same time you also have it paired to another device/app via Bluetooth.

The HRM-PRO is Garmin's top-end chest strap. It transmits dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart, but also transmits Running Dynamics metrics, stores HR data during a swim, and can be used without a watch for other sports. Also, it can transmit XC Skiing Dynamics as well.

And of course – you can always sign-up to be a DCR Supporter! That gets you an ad-free DCR, access to the DCR Quarantine Corner video series packed with behind the scenes tidbits...and it also makes you awesome. And being awesome is what it’s all about!

Thanks for reading! And as always, feel free to post comments or questions in the comments section below, I’ll be happy to try and answer them as quickly as possible. And lastly, if you felt this review was useful – I always appreciate feedback in the comments below. Thanks!

Found This Post Useful? Support The Site!

Hopefully you found this review useful. At the end of the day, I’m an athlete just like you looking for the most detail possible on a new purchase – so my review is written from the standpoint of how I used the device. The reviews generally take a lot of hours to put together, so it’s a fair bit of work (and labor of love). As you probably noticed by looking below, I also take time to answer all the questions posted in the comments – and there’s quite a bit of detail in there as well.

If you're shopping for the Garmin Edge 1040 Solar or any other accessory items, please consider using the affiliate links below! As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, but your purchases help support this website a lot. Even more, if you use Backcountry.com or Competitive Cyclist with coupon code DCRAINMAKER, first time users save 15% on applicable products!

Here's a few other variants or sibling products that are worth considering:

And finally, here’s a handy list of accessories that work well with this unit (and some that I showed in the review). Given the unit pairs with ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart sensors, you can use just about anything though.

This magnetless Garmin Cadence Sensor attached to your crank arm and transmits cadence over both ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart to apps, watches, or bike computers.

This is a set of Garmin magnetless speed and cadence sensors. Both transmits over ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart, but the speed sensor also can record rides without a bike computer - perfect for using on a commuter bike.

Garmin RTL515 Varia Radar

The Garmin Varia radar alerts you to cars coming up behind you, well before you see them. It's awesome for quieter roads (country roads/mountains), especially on longer rides. It's less useful for city riding.

The Garmin Varia radar alerts you to cars coming up behind you, well before you see them. It's awesome for quieter roads (country roads/mountains), especially on longer rides. It's less useful for city riding. The RVR315 skips the light.

This magnetless Garmin speed sensor transmits your speed on ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart, but more notably, it also has memory so it can save rides even when not paired to a bike computer/watch, then quietly offloads them to your phone later on. Perfect for a commuter bike.

The Edge remote allows you to control functions (like data pages/screens, and laps) wirelessly right from your handlebars/drops. Super handy for mountain biking where taking your hands off the bars might be a bad idea.

Garmin Edge Snap-on Battery

If you need to go *REALLY* long with a Garmin Edge device, this snap-on/under weatherproof battery pack basically gets you double your battery life. It snaps under your existing Edge with an included mount. It can also be used as a standard USB battery back too (for your phone/etc...).

The HRM-DUAL strap transmits not only concurrently on ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart, but actually has two Bluetooth channels, making it perfect for pairing to Zwift at the same time you also have it paired to another device/app via Bluetooth.

The HRM-PRO is Garmin's top-end chest strap. It transmits dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart, but also transmits Running Dynamics metrics, stores HR data during a swim, and can be used without a watch for other sports. Also, it can transmit XC Skiing Dynamics as well.

And of course – you can always sign-up to be a DCR Supporter! That gets you an ad-free DCR, access to the DCR Quarantine Corner video series packed with behind the scenes tidbits...and it also makes you awesome. And being awesome is what it’s all about!

Thanks for reading! And as always, feel free to post comments or questions in the comments section below, I’ll be happy to try and answer them as quickly as possible. And lastly, if you felt this review was useful – I always appreciate feedback in the comments below. Thanks!

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  1. Thinking of upgrading my Edge 820 to the Edge 1040 Solar as a result of the multi day cycle touring that I do and the solar feature. I do have a bicycle dynamo for charging devices, but it does seem appealing.

    One question I have is whether you can still manually copy downloaded OS Street Maps maps to the device like you can with older devices. Just want to make sure Garmin haven’t closed that and make you purchase maps from Garmin?

  2. Ronald

    Slowly finding my way in this device.

    Another question which I couldn’t get answered on the Garmin Forum (for now):

    How to load my own POI file or moreover where to store my own POI files?

    Have several (category-) files (in .gpi format) which on the 1030 could be stored easily:
    * Garmin
    * map name POI
    * submap name POI
    * file names H2O and Handy

    worked like navigate/search/other/ H2o (resp Handy)

    Here on the 1040 this trick doesn’t work and I cannot see where standard POI files are stored.

    So, as always with new devices, one gets a bit lost and a I have no idea whether POI loader would work (which thus I don’t do)

    Has somebody tried this already, loading/storing own .gpi (POI) files?

  3. Dale

    I have an Edge 830 that is a huge headache. BT rarely connects, dropped sensors, Varia radar disconnecting, changing light modes on its own, rebooting itself at random times and no help from Garmin. There hard reboot did not work and the file share instructions don’t work and they never respond back. So before spending more money on Garmin products, does the 1040 have these problems. Is it easy to navigate and set up profiles. Are there good tutorials on how to use it to it’s full potential.

    Thanks for the awesome in depth review.

    • Giuseppe

      If you want to be a beta tester for the 1040 – not as a volunteer – but as a paying (full price) customer, then yes, go ahead and change your broken 830 for a « not yet ready for prime-time » 1040.

      Another option would be to send in your 830 for repair – to a Garmin authorized dealer. They’ll either repair it or replace with a refurbished unit.

    • camillo

      Hi Dale, I’ve been using the 1040 for a few rides and I’m quite happy with it.

    • Hi Giuseppe – Do you actually have the Edge 1040?

    • Dale

      Thanks Camillo, would like to hear more after you have more time with it.

    • Giuseppe


      No, I don’t have the 1040.

      I bought a brand new 1030 Plus, about 6 weeks before the 1040 came out.

      Had the 1000 before, but the USB connection, started going wonky, as did the on off switch, and the automatic uploads to my wifi or bluetooth network.
      However, the 1000 was sooo much faster with gradient display and elevation accuracy – two important features for me.

      Obviously wasn’t happy at first – when the 1040 came out, only a few weeks after I bought the 1030 Plus …. Until I read it had similar issues (which were/are important for me).

      Honestly – I don’t use most of the “features” of the 1030 Plus. I like it because of the big screen – which is great with my 50 year old eyes.

      Fyi, I then sent my 1000 to a Garmin authorized Center for repair. They simply exchanged it for a refurbished regular 1030 Edge – for a fee of course.

      Lo and behold – same fast gradient display on the 1030, ghat my trustworthy 1000 had!

      Thank you so much ++ for your unbiased, trustworthy reviews and free-speech comment sections. I have bought stuff from your affiliate links in the past.

      All the best.

  4. Dale

    Thanks for the in depth review

  5. Mike

    It’s been a while since I looked at a Garmin because…

    What happens if you just turn on the unit and do NOT press “start”, but just start riding?
    Can you view ride length / time / altitude? Does the odometer recognize / record the riding you do even if you don’t press “START”?

    Typical ride (for most people, I’d think) would be getting out to the edge of town through traffic, then the “real” ride begins, followed by the poking your way back through town, etc. Just hated that I either had to see a recorded avg speed that was maybe ⅔ of my actual “ride” speed, or the first/last 5km of my ride didn’t add to the odometer.

    • No, if you don’t press start, it doesn’t record anything (if you have a Garmin speed sensor, then that speed sensor will record the data and sync it afterwards, but that’s kinda a mess in terms of dual recordings).

      While I understand that specific thinking (having lived in plenty of cities that you suffer a file in slow traffic/etc first), I think most riders just don’t worry about it.

    • Ketil Wendelbo Aanensen

      Why not just start the computer, finish it up, and call it «getting to edge of town”, then do the actual ride, then the same on the way back?

      Or keep separate screens for lap times/ distance/ elevation, and just lap the computer when you start and finish the actual ride?

    • camillo

      Second what Ketil writes, I just can’t see why it should be a problem. Record your first ride out of town, save it and then record a new one.

  6. MaDus

    I can’t read comments 201 to 530?!?
    Older comments = 1-200
    Newer comments = 531 – x

  7. Steve R

    I have the 1040 solar and have to say this is by far the best computer they have come out with and bug free too. I’ve had 500, 510, 810, and 1030 computers over the past 10 years and this one is definitely a home run, super job Garmin.

  8. Mike Brown

    I always use a glass screen protector. Would this impact on the solar units ability to ‘recharge’ during a ride? And are protectors even available for these units,

  9. Vdude

    Hi Ray,
    just bought a 1040 and see it has imported last 30 days of activities from Connect (via Android phone).
    So, it is showing me different figures for Training Load and other metrics, compared to old 530.
    I have read that those metrics are based on last 90 days of data, is that correct?
    In case, how do i force a sync to 1040 that can include previous months?

  10. Igs417

    Hi Ray! Great in-depth review, as always. 😀

    Does Power Guide also works with routes loaded to device from RideWithGPS, or route must be created though Garmin Connect?

    • Steve R

      It works for routes from ridewith GPS – I have several races on mine that were loaded that way and the power guide works fine. not sure if it’s because they were synced with GC first, but they work either way which is what’s important.

  11. Zombie

    Would you know is there a routing option that lets the Garmin 1040 route road and gravel roads and make the best route of that combination?

  12. Pierre Goyette


    I finally received my 1040 Solar in Canada and just discovered that they removed 3D Map mode (which was in your notes). I thought this was the best way to navigate with a GPS. Any idea why it was removed and can I assume that it will not come back ?



  13. Scott Wagner

    Any idea when or if the AMOLED screen will make it to Garmin’s next bike computer?

  14. Brian Lund

    I upgraded to the Edge 1040 from a 1030 and immediately ran into a problem with my 4iiii precision 3 power meters not working. Contacting Garmin support, they claim it’s 4iiii not using the right ANT+ frequencies.

    Quote from Garmin chat support:
    Garmin uses ANT frequencies to pair to sensors. The ANT spectrum for Garmin devices used to be a wide spectrum of frequencies. Example of what it used to be: 100 to 150. As time has gone on – we’ve narrowed this to spectrum to what we have found to be the best: 120 to 140.
    The ironic point is, the original creator for ANT was 4iiii. And eventually Garmin purchased this technology.
    Unfortunately, 4iiii stops at 119. Which is outside of the 120 to 140 range that Garmin uses now moving forward.
    And from what I understand up to this point in time – it’s up to the 4iiii team to adjust their protocols.

    Have you heard anything about this Ray?

    • Alain Quesnel

      Is this a similar issue to the Varia Vision no longer being supported?

    • Chris Pritchard

      Hi Ray, were you able to investigate Brian’s question on the 4iii connectivity? I have a couple of bikes with 4iii PM’s as well, and this would be a deal breaker.


  15. Andrea

    Hi, my self and many other people in the Garmin forum, complaint about the rerouting calculation and settings for routing pop-up in the Edge 1040, because they are at the best confusing, please can you publish something like ‘routing and re-routing in Edge from garmin perspective’? 🙂
    I mean, for example in Italian language but a German people complaint the same, are at the best wrong, or without sense.

  16. MK

    I love this one screen you showed right after the following verbiage: “So at this point, with everything set, we’ll just start a simple ride. It’ll usually find GPS within a couple seconds, and find sensors once activated within a few seconds as well. You’ll chose your activity profile and then press start. At which point you’ll see real-time data on the screens, and it’ll be recording in the background:” Would you mind sharing how you compiled that beauty?

  17. Joseph


    I have the 1030 plus and I was looking at the difference on Garmin site between 1030 plus and 1040. It says there is a gyroscope in the 1040. I have noticed with the 1030 plus that the incline change is sometimes slow to change. With the addition of the gyroscope does the rate of change improve with the 1040? Have you compared the the rate of change in incline/decline with 1040 and 1030? Or did I miss it somewhere.

    Thanks for your reviews.

    • Giuseppe


      Not really. Same lag of 10 – 15 seconds or more, still exists unfortunately.

      Although this does not seem to bother certain fanboys, many other users beg to differ and have expressed themselves under various Garmin sub-forums.


      link to forums.garmin.com

  18. DrPeperino

    Hi Ray,

    maybe this could be slightly off-topic but the question raises from the subject: is there any very likely (or almost explicit) plan to come out with new 840/540 units in the near future, as the issueance of this new 1040 could possibly suggest?

  19. Simon

    Hello! I’ve just received my Edge 1040 and connects to everything great (speed sensor, Assiomo pedals, HRM, Varia). However, trying to get it to connect to my Wahoo Kickr Snap just results in a spinning wheel on the Edge 1040 and no connection. My Edge 530 connects immediately. Have you had any feedback on smart trainer issues with the 1040?

  20. Karim

    Hi Ray
    Just set up the 1040 solar and took it for a spin–I had a 830 and had set up sensors and shifting etc — on one of the screens where is show s the gears (front and back, both graphical and gear number ie 1/2 and 6/12). I have sram red axs 12 speed. selected the correct gear ratios etc front and back and on the scree (see pic) instead of showing the rear gear there is a black box. Has anyone has had the same issue? I updated software to 12.16, fully charged the rear derailleur battery and reinstalled the shifting sensor and problem persists.

  21. Jack W

    Hi Ray, do you have any insight on whether some of the new features, specifically Real Time Stamina, will be added to the next generation lower end units, such as the next 840?

    Quote: “As usual, it’s common to ask whether any of these features will be added to any existing Edge units, and unfortunately this time the answer is no […] this time around the new features aren’t being added downstream.”

  22. Charles Olmsted

    Have had an order in for a 1040 solar from Amazon since the release in early June. Amazon listed the delivery date as unknown. Was curious if anyone knows when they will be available for the general public?

  23. Paul Blaik

    As always great review. I decided to buy the Edge 1040 after your review/video.

    Two issues though with my new 1040, one is clearly a Edge 1040 bug, the other may be a Fenix 7 Sapphire Solar issue or Edge 1040, I’m unsure…

    1)The graphical display of the Di2 Gear’s has a problem displaying the cassette gear selection, it shows as a solid block, rather than say 4/11 or 2/11 (see attachment)

    2)I use my Fenix 7 Sapphire Solar to broadcast my heart-rate as a ride activity to my Edge 1040. Works great, except after a rest stop. If the connection gets interrupted (like I was to go into a coffee shop), then the heart-rate will not reconnect to the Edge 1040 – no matter what I try…. enabling/disabling the sensor, searching for a new sensor etc. My assumption is this is a BLE issue, is there a way to change the Fenix to broadcast Ant+ vs BLE?

    • Alain Quesnel

      For the gear graph, it looks like your Di2 sensor isn’t connected, and you haven’t set what you have for front and rear gears.

    • Paul Blaik

      Alain, I was sitting in the family room when I took that pic, however I assure you when it’s connected to the Di2, the black block on the top right corner remains. The coloured bars indicating what gear your in work as does the left hand side front chainring indicator. I’ve reported the issue to Garmin, they said they are aware and are working on fixing if next update.

    • Steve R

      I haven’t tried that set up, I just use the numbers for the gears not the graphics and it works fine.

  24. PaulW

    Looking to compare this to the Karoo2 but the 1040 isn’t in the product comparison table here, will it be added soon?

  25. Chris Pritchard

    Does anyone know what color the side panel is for the 1040/1040 solar? I’ve seen photos of 1040’s with a shiny silver side panel, and on the Garmin website, they show a version of the 1040 Solar with a charcoal gray side panel. I’m not sure if it makes a difference but I’m in the US?

    • Tom J.

      I think the silver side panels are on the 1040, and the 1040 Solar (which I have) has dark gray sides. The Solar also comes with black silicone case which covers the sides anyway, so it doesn’t matter unless you don’t want to use the case. The Solar also includes an MTB mount, so you are getting more than solar for the extra $150.

    • Chris Pritchard

      Thanks Tom J!

  26. Alec

    I’ve got a Fenix 6 now, thoughts on whether a Fenix 7 and an edge 530 just to view stats/varia easily or going for a 1040 and keeping the Fenix 6 is better??

  27. Chuck Warnock

    I’ve been thinking of getting the 1030 plus, for one reason that your review on this included the fact that beep was noticeably louder for the Varia Radar, which is a safety feature for me (I have an 830, and really can’t hear it). Then they came out with this. Is the beep still loud? Crazy thing is…it’s the same price.

    • Alain Quesnel

      If you have the RTL515 varia radar, there’s an app for iPhones and Androids. I can’t speak for the Android app, but the iPhone app is very loud.

    • Chuck Warnock

      Thank you. Garmin let me know about it as well. With my Shokz open ear headphones, it’s a great solution. I would still be interested in the device volume itself, as the other day I was on a ride and my headphones had not been charged. 🙂

    • Steve R

      It’s about the same volume as my 1030, plenty loud enought to hear easily by me and people riding with me if they are within a few bike lengths of me.

  28. Matej

    I have seen the altimeter on Edge 1040 is working very bad. In an undulating road the response time on altitude change is vey slow, hence it records 20% less ascent versus 1030. Anybody else experiences this issue?

    • Steve R

      I don’t watch the altitude on a screen but my feet of climbing / ascent looks the same as my 1030 on the same routes and the % grades look right to me on my 1040.

    • Giuseppe

      @ Matej,

      Correct, the 1040 has altimeter (gradient) lag issues. Just like its predecessor, the 1030 Plus.

      You are certainly not alone to observe this problem:
      link to forums.garmin.com

      link to forums.garmin.com

    • Giuseppe

      @Steve R,
      Perhaps it’s because you are on a long, long, NON UNDULATING slope climb. Otherwise on constantly changinging terrain snd dlopes, the 1040 is way to slow regarding its gradient lag issues.

    • Giuseppe

      *too slow

    • Matej

      @Giuseppe, Thx for your feedback. At least I know I am not alone and there is nothing wrong “my device only related” but a general problem. What concerns me is the speed Garmin addresses such issues since they did not fix a problem on 1030 plus after 1+year 🙁

    • Steve R

      Probably is because I’m not paying attention to grade on any places I’m undulating. I really only look at grade when I am using climb pro on longer climbs as a distraction from suffering and out of curiosity. If I’m riding rolling hills I’m pretty much looking at the road/trail or wheel in front of me if in a paceline.

      I have noticed the grade doesn’t match up exactly to where I am on a course, its off a bit too but personally I’m normally just not that interested in that information, Watts / HR/ Cadence / what gear I’m in / next turn / how much longer till the top of a long climb are the things I see as much more valuable information that the exact grade at the moment I’m there. I mean, what am I going to do with that information anyway? Curious what you folks are using that information for if you wouldn’t mind explaining.

  29. Michael Lüghausen

    any ideas how to use stamina on a circuit?

  30. Gillian Robertson

    I went thru the setup using my iphone GC app and said yes to transfer profiles however only an indoor profile appeared on my 1040. Is there another way to transfer the profiles?

    • Matej

      Happened to me exactly the same, only indoor transferred (road and MTB not). I have decided to manually enter data for missing profiles. You can try copy/paste settings.fit data using PC (see folder Garmin/Settings and copy paste settings.fit file). I am not sure it will work since they have changed the SW on 1040 vs previous models but it worked e.g. from 1030 to 1030 plus.

    • Hmm, if it failed, there isn’t a manual way. The only viable way is to basically just reset it and try again. 🙁

    • Gillian Robertson

      Same with mine. Only INDOOR came across. I attached my 1030 to my PC, copied the PROFILES folder across to the 1040 and that fixed it

    • Gillian Robertson

      At least I think that’s what I did 😉

  31. Marc Simkin

    Hi Ray:

    The 1040 Series supports primary and secondary targets on the workout screen. However, there seems to be an issue when workouts are pulled from Training Peaks where the secondary target is not being displayed.

    I have opened an issue with Garmin Support, as well as Training Peak support.

    At first I thought the issue was Garmin’s. However after spending some time reading the FIT SDK docs, and looking at the FIT files exported from TP. I think the issue might actually be how TP is writing the workout step messages to the file.

    When I created a workout in Connect Web that had primary and secondary targets, the workout screen showed both as expected.

    When I dumped the workout’s FIT file, I noticed that Garmin populated a set of secondary target fields (secondary_target_type, secondary_custom_target_low, …)that contained the cadence info.



  32. Chris Nelson

    Thanks for the great details and technology goodness! I’m looking to make the upgrade to the Edge 1040 Solar (replacing 4 year old 1030). The features on the 1040 looks perfect for my long adventure rides. But I’m shocked Garmin launched this product without availability (also I’m not shocked with chip supply issues hitting every market), I’m in the US and I can’t find the 1040 available anywhere. Can you share info on their supply and delivery issues?

  33. Rolf Roessing

    Can it re-route back to course/route – like the wahoo roam does so greatly – on any deviation?
    Doing a recalc to the finish point normally is not what want 😉

  34. KerkepadRider

    Thanks Ray for an excellent evaluation of the 1040. I have been using one (non-solar) version for about three weeks, but have run into the following problems using Strava segments:
    (1) When I check my (enabled) Strava Live Segments, I can only see KOMs not PRs or any other option (even though I have put PR at top of the Default Leader Priority screen – and KOM at the bottom).
    (2) On the few segments where I can see a PR, it is from the first (oldest) time that I recorded a PR for that segment..
    I have contacted Garmin who believe it is a problem pulling data from Strava (looks like only KOMs and few old PR segments have been transferred). Maybe this can be solved if you could choose what data you want from transferred from Strava (in my case just PRs)..
    I note from some Garmin Forums that these problems were seen in the 520+ and 820+ series a few years ago (but did not see a solution) and seem to have resurfaced for the Edge 1040 now.
    (3) What may be related to the above problems is when syncing rides via Garmin Express, I get multiple reminders to sync what appears to be already synced data..

  35. Isaac J Wheeler

    Ray, are you still updating the product comparison calculator?

  36. Daniel

    My biggest issue with Garmin Edge devices (and i didn’t see you discuss this) is the re-routing feature. If I go off course it just keeps telling me to U-turn back to the point I went off, so I wouldn’t really consider that re-routing. Even more frustrating is when I get back on course further down the road it still tells me to u-turn back to the point I missed (so if i know I have to make a right turn to continue it tells me to go left instead). This is really an issue when for example the road is closed so I have to go off course and I don’t know where I am the Edge just keeps telling me to go back to where the road is closed. Has this been updated with the 1040? I don’t get how this is just accepted in a premium GPS computer.

    • Nate C

      This is definitely an annoyance for training rides. What I sometimes have to do is cancel navigation and then re-start the course once I’m back on course and don’t navigate to the beginning, on my 830.

      For races, where race rules require that you re-enter the course from the location that you left the course in order to avoid being disqualified (in the event of a wrong turn), routing that makes you u-turn and enter the course where you exited is exactly what you want!

    • Paul S.

      Yeah, the problem is that until Garmin perfects the telepathy module, your Edge can’t know why you left the course. Were you daydreaming and simply missed a turn? Is something going on on the road ahead (a crash, a fire, construction, etc.) where you simply can’t go that way? The Edge can’t know. Maybe a U-turn is the right thing to tell you. Maybe showing you a way around is the right thing. My preference would be for some kind of UI to tell it “I can’t go that way”, but that doesn’t exist right now. If you simply proceed, eventually it (at least an 830) will stop telling you to U-turn and start showing you a forward way back to the course, but that doesn’t happen immediately.

  37. Barturtle

    Hi. I’ve not sure if this was covered, but will the Solar also charge the Extended Battery Pack?

  38. R RRR

    Great review. good writing
    I know where the field is.
    And I know how little I need this thing.
    Really even if it worked , almost nobody needs it.
    Nothing I need that my phone cant do. Better
    I think I’ll go for a ride.

  39. Ulisses Giorgi

    O bought 1040 based on this review. You always put a super detailer review, so I thought “ok, that’s it”. But I must admit: I got disappointed with this review.

    Edge 1040 seems not to be a finished product.

    1) ANT keeps disconnecting, even with this most recent firmware updates
    2) Climb pro, one of the best features of my 830, was ruined. It shows completely out of synch. One of my climbs was so absurd, that it said “Climb finished” on my Garmin and yet was still like 30 seconds of climbing. The same climb was perfectly synched on 830.
    3) Depending on firmware update, Strava Segments work OR NOT.

    I started today to use my 830 again since on my last ride or disconnected all my devices and I ended up the last 30 minutes of my ride completely bling: no power, no radar, no HR, no candende.

    I am really not sure why none of this HUGE bugs were not reported on this review. On Garmin forums, it became clear that I am far to be the only one having this issues. And again: with basic funcionality…Shame for Garmin. I am still your fan DV, but I got disappointed indeed with this review…

    • Will

      While I can’t speak to the other issues you were seeing (though to be fair it does reference some people reporting sensor drop out issues and some other quirks based on firmware versions),

      I am starting to wonder if the Climb Pro sync issue goes beyond the 1040. My wife and I were on a ride the other day, where she was on a 830 and I was on 1040 Solar…. we were riding right next to each other and both of our devices had Climb Pro out of sync with the actual ride – starting the climb late, but virtually in sync with each other. So, something is certainly going on with Climb Pro.

    • Paul S.

      I saw that yesterday on my 830. On the ClimbPro final climb, it was just off. “Go” started well after I started the climb, while when “Climb Complete” showed up I had been descending for a while. The other weird thing that happened is that the track is way off on Garmin Connect (but no where else I looked) at about the same place that ClimbPro acted up. The track is well away from the road on the map. Of course, the map on GC might just be wrong. The usual amount of notifying that it found my VIRB which was on and recording the whole time, and I think one or two bogus notifications of sensor drops. Something is off about the current firmware. I had lots of things connected to the 830 (eMTB ride, so e-bike, speed/cadence, power, HRM, and VIRB) and I was navigating, so having all that to do might be a contributing factor.

    • Steve R

      I’m curious about your comment that there was 30 seconds left in your climb when climb pro said you were done. I’m sure you could see looking at the road, that the climb had a bit more work to do to finish and 30 seconds isn’t much – Can you explain how this 30 second difference impacted your ride and performance in this situation? Personally, I find climb pro very useful when it’s a long climb and I can’t see the end but when I can look at the road and see the finish I’m not sitting there looking at my bike computer to tell me I’m at the end, its really obvious with out climb pro at that point. It’s a bike computer, not a video game.

    • Giuseppe


      Just curious – would you be similarly forgiving and use same video game anslogy if Garmin’s speed or HR or wattage or navigation displays were similarly “off”?

    • Steve R


      No I wouldn’t be as forgiving but they are not off so….. HR and wattage are peformance / fitness metrics – climb pro is just something to facilitate pacing oneself on a long climb, at least that’s what it is for me.

      Unlike a climb, I can’t see my HR or wattage without looking at my bike computer, but I can sure see if there’s more climb left or if I am done – apples and oranges comparison that makes no sense to me anyway. I don’t stare at my bike computer for 30 seconds at a time or at the end of a climb to see my HR or wattage either really. Seems nit picking to me but everyone has their own things that are important to them while riding I guess….

    • Chris Nelson

      Interesting. We were riding a bike-packing race/ride in Minnesota’s Northwoods and my Climb Pro was trash. It totally missed one climb, was super late starting a climb, and was generally worthless on both days of the ride. We’re on a tandem and getting climb information is super helpful. I kept thinking that being on remote gravel roads was causing the issues.

    • Paul S.

      Here’s the link to my activity yesterday on Garmin Connect. On the easternmost side of the track, where I turned from Greens Valley “Road” onto Blue Ball Road heading south, the track simply leaves the road entirely. I don’t know what it’s showing (maybe the track it thought it was navigating?) because everywhere else I look (Strava), including the GC iPhone app, the track follows the road as I actually did. Very strange. If it is showing the track it thinks it was navigating as opposed to the actual track, that would explain the weird ClimbPro notifications, but why would they do that (and who knew that’s kept in the FIT file)? ClimbPro has always worked well in the past, and I’ve never seen this before. Anyone else seeing anything weird on the GC website for their tracks?

      Oh, and I forgot that I also had radar, a light (the Varia), and iPhone connected to the 830. So lots of things connected and navigating.

    • BikePower

      My experience with Climb Pro on the 1040 Solar has generally been very good.

      A lot of the time Climb Pro is uncannily accurate and I what I feel as the gradient changes seems to match what is displayed (even for relatively short sections). In these cases Climb Pro actually seems better than on the 1030 Plus. I have Multiband GPS enabled for the highest position accuracy and I wonder if that has something to do with it. That said, Saturday I was on a climb and Climb Pro was definitely off by about 20 – 30 seconds.

      I don’t know how Climb Pro works internally, but if it relies on an accurate GPS position then using Multiband might help. Of course, that leaves the experience I had on Saturday unexplained.

    • Ulisses Giorgi

      I use Climb Pro since version 1, on multiples Garmin Edges. On my Garmin Edge 830 it was spot on!
      No, not sure why you are tying to defend Garmin company (ok, maybe you are one of the firmware developers), but there is no excuse on this one. It is used to worked perfectly and now it almost useless.

      It is supposed to be a very accurate “map” of your climb, so you know if you can start, for example, give your best since after that climb is a long descent.

      Excuse me, but the ones that are not using this way are the ones using this feature in a wrong way.

      And as I said first – I am using this feature since day one when it was launhed. There is zero percent chance I was looking other ways or any other excuse. The climb was completely out-of-synch.

    • Steve R

      @Giorgi, I’m not defending or advocating for Garmin’s execution of the 1040, just trying to understand how people are trying to use it and the benefit they are getting. When I can see the start of a climb or the finish, I really don’t need a bike computer to tell me that I’ve started or finished, sounds like others do. I do like to know what’s ahead on a climb that lasts a mile or so when I can’t see the whole thing though and it does that well for me so far with adequate accuracy. I wouldn’t choose to do anything differently on a climb if it was off by + or – seconds, seems like many do though for some reason, yet to be explained very well.

    • Chris Nelson

      @Steve R I live in a flat place, I need to ride a 20 miles to find a Cat 4 climb, so I don’t use Climb Pro on most local training rides. But when I’m out on a long ride/race on roads I don’t know, Climb Pro is very helpful. Most roads I ride are twisty, and there’s no sight line to the top of the climb or when a climb is coming. My example earlier, we’re on a tandem and knowing when the climb is going to kick up to 15% is critical to shift in advance of the ramp (we can’t get out of the saddle to mash up a steep ramp). Also keep my stocker informed since they can not see the hill at all. Yesterday, we’re on a climb, and the Climb Pro started late not warning me of a steep ramp … but making it look like the ramp was still coming up. It’s not a deal breaker, but is sure makes Climb Pro pointless if it’s going to be that far off.

    • Ulisses Giorgi

      Obviously nobody needs to have Climb Pro to see when a climb begins. But when you have it very accurate and you want to do a 8km climb on your FTP, Climb Pro (when accurate) is the best tool I had so far.

      Also, I use to go Neuro (Z7) at the next 30 seconds of my climb. My whole teammates use CLimb Pro in a very similar way, so I am sure not an exception here…

    • Just a quick comment because I’m out on the trail with no/limited cell for a week or so.

      However, it sounds like something has obviously changed, that impacted people this weekend. Nobody has reported any ClimbPro issues till now (and I never saw any, it was just as it’s been for years). The unit has been out almost two months now, without ClimbPro issues.

      I’d say if you started seeing them this weekend, to raise a support issue with Garmin Support.

      As for the sensor dropout issues, those were reported by folks that had CIQ items installed, but that was fixed within a week of release, so I’m surprised your seeing it now.


    • Ulisses Giorgi

      Yes, and I was using indeed 14.12 lastest firmware (Beta) version, since 12.16 I was still seeing those ANT drops. For some reason, 14.12 it seems to make it worse – at least on my case: I had never seen a behavior like that: after 3:30h of ride, all sensors were disconnect and never conected again.

  40. Sebastian

    are the training/stamina features work while using an E-MTB with Shimano Steps and a heart rate belt?
    Thank you for any answers.

    I am not sure between the standard 1040 and the new explore 2….

    • I’m not an expert in Shimano Steps (and don’t have regular access to a bike with it). However, I did briefly try out integration at Eurobike with one, and recorded a sample file here: link to connect.garmin.com

      On that bike, using Shimano Steps, it did not broadcast power data within the data stream. Maybe others do, I don’t know. But you do need power data for cycling Stamina (plus HR).

  41. Jim Braley

    Used the 1040 Solar for the first time today, excellent unit. On the screen why is there a red piece at the top and bottom of the screen–seems like that reduces the size of the scree

    • BikePower

      Those are solar panels for charging the device. The actual screen size is the same as the previous versions.

  42. Barry Hoffman

    Amazing in depth review. Thank you. Did you notice like I and many others have the 15 or more second delay in the gradient % changing to reflect the grade you’re on? The 1030 had minimal. In another article you mentioned how you like this data field to handle false flats. What are your thoughts on 15 to 20 sec delay when you look at it? Sad to see garmin go backwards and to this climber may be a deal breaker.

    • There are lots of discussions up above on it. It’s on my slate to re-test this week on Weds/Thurs, now that I’ve finally got a second breather to go the hour+ out to the singular meaningful hill in this region of the Netherlands, and do some ups/downs with comparative units to show how it actually looks.

      If one goes back to my big climbing comparison video I posted earlier this year (Garmin/Wahoo/Hammerhead), there were a bunch of cases where I showed it’s not quite as black and white as people think it is. Garmin definitely isn’t always the slowest. There were many times were Wahoo or Hammerhead was slower. Of course, most people just aren’t stupid enough to have three bike computers and a GoPro on their bikes recording this for hours on end. 🙂

    • Barry Hoffman

      I did a mini rainmaker last night..

      Had my 1030 attached next to 1040 solar and rode around to compsre. Staggering. Wish i could have recorded but climbing with 1 hand wasn’t gonna happen. Easily 15-20 sec behind always was the 1040. Thanks

    • Ulisses Ponticelli Giorgi

      I am really disappointed with this too. Was one the best features Garmin had. What was the firmware version you were on?

    • Ulisses G.

      Please take a Garmin 830 (or similar) vs 1040. The difference is huge. I can’t talk compared with other brands, but Garmin was spot on with Climb Pro – at least until 1040. And it is not data issue, like Garmin wants me to think on the firmware discussion. I know that because I was using the same route I used to use with my Garmin 830: so same dataset, same climb, same cyclist – only difference was the unit. Not sure why / how they ruined that.

    • Just to be clear, we’re talking two separate things here:

      A) Gradient lag
      B) Whatever the heck seems to have broke ClimbPro alignment for some people in the last 10-14 days

      Nobody was reporting ClimbPro issues prior to the last 10-14 days (on any units). Whereas people have been reporting gradient lag for some time.

    • BikePower

      No issues for me yesterday or today using ClimbPro on the Edge 1040 Solar. I don’t really pay much attention to the gradient, so I can’t comment about that feature.

    • Barry Hoffman

      Did a 100 mile ride today with the 1040 solar that I got yesterday.
      I already tested the first night with the 1040 vs 1030 as I watched the gradient have a diff of 15-20 sec as you know. Some people said try a Garmin widget that does gradient to the decimal place and they said it shows it quicker as you ride. I used a page with the garmin % gradient and the widget and I am not sure there was any difference (other than the decimals).

      I used climb pro today and that seemed normal. In short, the 1040 is just so much better than the 1030 in every way except in 1 (the gradient) it is just so much worse.
      not much more to say on this as it just seems to be what it is.

      DC, if you get in Garmin’s ear and make any change that would help a lot of cyclists!

  43. Volker

    Hej Ray, with sw 14.12 beta update Garmin added a Music Control widget (via connected phone). As far as I remember, Garmin always told us, there will be no music/no music widget on the Edges due to safety reasons/concerns. So it seems they have changes their opinion?

    Do you think we will get IQ music apps like Deezer, Spotify etc and a bt headphone connection on the new Edges, too? That would be the next logical step.

    • Indeed, it actually launched on the Edge Explore 2, and then now was added to the 1040 in beta. Garmin says there’s no plans for the Edge 530/830.

      I don’t know if they’ve changed their opinion, I can poke. Obviously, those units have the storage for it. But I don’t know if the BT chipset has the right configuration for direct audio pairing. My guess is their opinion as shifted as more and more riders are going to gravel (at least in the States), where the safety risk is less than out on roads. I guess a question is, would that many people actually use direct on-device Spotify, versus just having the phone in the back pocket.

      I feel like with running/gym/etc, people want to run phone-less. But with cycling, I can’t remember the last time I didn’t take my phone.

    • Volker

      I am using Deezer on my Epix 2 with Aftershockz OpenMove headphones, so I can still listen/hear the environment “noise” and I also get the sound of my paired varia radar via headphones. Because bt headphones/music is available on the wearables (which one also can use on the handlebars or on the wrist) during a bike ride…Because of the bigger display, I prefer my 1040er on the handlebars (and btw: the Epix 2 in bright sunlight on the handlebars is a disaster (at the moment), because of the automatic dimming).

  44. Marc H Simkin

    I’ve had two rides this past week where in the middle of the ride, the 1040 just hangs. Drops all sensors, doesn’t respond to the screen type hang.

    I’ve discovered that if I touch anything on the screen while it’s hung, I inadvertently cause something else to happen. For example, when it hung today, I tried to get to the home screen. Nothing happened, however when the device finally came back to life, it has started a structured workout.

    Ray, any ideas what is going on?



  45. Simon

    As part of the navigation search categories revamp – have train (railway) stations been axed? Can’t seem to find them on a UK model using latest available European maps (2021.20) neither on the obvious “Transportation” section nor anywhere else..??

  46. Simon

    FYI: Dramatically faster router calculation.. actually, it’s pretty similar to previous units (1030 etc), the smoke and mirrors being the 1040 software revamp automatically computes and caches route calculations for all new courses *when they arrive on the device*, instead of the first time they are ‘navigated’. So long as you’ve given the 1040 time to do this = seems lightning fast when you go to use that course for the first time. A simple, obvious-in-hindsight yet very effective improvement.

  47. wlshirer

    4iii precision 3 power meters are not detected by the Edge 1040. The problem is now widely known. And certainly Garmin knew of the problem before they started selling the 1040.

    The compatibility issue between the 1040 and 4iii should have been disclosed by Garmin.

    I contacted Garmin this morning (8/11/22), and they have no idea on when the fix might happen.

    Back the device goes to Amazon.

    • I actually can get it to detect just fine. Though, some people are having issues with maintaining connectivity.

      I’ll be honest, I struggle to see how this is Garmin’s problem here. 4iiii has basically been playing games with the Gen 3 units to try and eek out (unnecessary) battery life claims, and this appears to be one of the ramifications of it. In general, when every other power meter on the planet works, except one new one, most signs point to that one being the issue.