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Any chance this will get rolled out to the 935?
The 935 doesn’t have music capabilities. :(
But the 945 music might! ;)
Really hoping Google music are watching (listening!?). Nail in the coffin for Mighty too?
I think a 935 Music would be more likely in the near term
I recently bought a Mighty player. Think its rather nifty. Right now its not worth buying a Fenix 5 Plus thought. $80 vs $800, no brainer really. I have a 735XT and even Spotify just doesn’t justify that price. Maybe if it comes to the 645 music? Then maybe….just maybe,
Now I’m just waiting for Garmin to release or certify a compatible headphone or earphone which is capable of being used while swimming
That might be a wee bit difficult, given the issues with transmission underwater. You’d essentially have to cache the music on the headphones too.
I suspect the main issue though is that the market for a swimming-specific accessory like that is limited. I think we’ve seen larger companies struggle with demand for swim-specific hardware, mainly because more competitive swimmers tend to hate having additional hardware on them.
How would you expect that headphone to connect to the Garmin watch? Bluetooth only has a range of an inch or two under water. And without a headphone jack, there is no other way to connect headphones to Garmin watches.
Even if you keep your head above the water, every time your hand enters the water the headphones will lose connection with the watch.
I think something offered by WaterFi is what would fit your requirements best.
You may not have gigs of mp3s like I do (all legal, I swear. Really), but if you really need music, I swim with the Finis Duo and it works ok. It’s not the same as listening in the ears, but it does pretty well and is certainly better than swimming with nothing.
This may be what you’re looking for. It’s expensive but it’s essentially a tiny waterproof Android tablet with waterproof headphones so it can be used in the pool and works with most streaming services (using offline playlists). link to underwateraudio.com
Have a look at the Bragi Dash Pro wireless earbuds. Mine work with the 5X Plus and I use them while swimming – training in the pool.
Thanks for the shout out Paul! The Delphin will also work with most music apps, not just Spotify. Apple Music, Pandora, Amazon Music, SoundCloud, Audible, Podcast and Radio Addict, etc. all work. You can use either wired or Bluetooth headphones, although Bluetooth headphones need to be very close to the Delphin for use underwater.
The Delphin also counts laps and gives real-time lap counts and splits through audio feedback at the frequency you choose.
Since you can stream music, you can also use an app like Zello as a coach communicator to talk to your swimmer in real time using your phone.
I’m happy to answer any other questions that pop up!
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Do you think this will make it’s way into the Descent?
No, the Descent doesn’t have music capabilities (it’s based on the original Fenix 5X, not the Plus series).
Is Apple music also supported?
No, that’s unfortunately a walled Apple garden. :(
An orchard, even.
Oh man, I hope this doesn’t take too long to come to the rest of the music watches. I’m using the 3 month free trial of Deezer on my Vivoactive 3 Music at the moment and it works well but I would really prefer to stay with Spotify.
Cool.
Do you have anything to share on Google play music integration plans? Would definitely be the trigger to finally update my dying fenix 2 :)
That’d definitely be a Google Music driven decision. I don’t believe they’ve done any integrations outside of the Google platform (akin to Apple Music).
Wow, I know something that Ray doesn’t!!!!! :-D ;-) (but only because I am a Google Geek)
Google Music IS available on IOS so I would imagine Google would want to support Garmin as well if they thought the investment in the app was worth it.
Sorry, I was talking 3rd party integrations (i.e. integrating it on a watch beyond Android Wear). Is there support on Samsung’s wearables for it?
Google Music actually works fine on Sonos players, which I would consider totally unrelated to Google, so that seems like a good sign.
When using the fenix 5 + series and connected headphones, have you noticed any connection issues?
i.e when the watch is on the left wrist and the headphone receiver is on the right of the ear, I’ve heard that it can drop out sometimes?
Depends 100% on the headphones. With the Skullcandy ones for example I’m good running (with watch on either wrist). However, if I stop walking and put my hands down to my side and then turn my head (like to stretch my neck), I get dropouts – it’s just that little bit extra that kills it.
But normal running/walking – totally fine.
In my experience with my older Beats and others it varies a bit as well. It’s always kinda this careful balance by both headphone and wearable companies right on the edge of battery/performance limits.
No issues for me with a Plantronics BBFit with watch on left wrist, which is opposite to “optimal”. Much better connection than to the Apple Watch Series 2 that preceded the Fenix 5+. Much better battery life too, on par with Garmin’s advertised specs.
I was very annoyed to discover that my relatively fancy Bose headphones have terrible connection to my phone when my phone is in my right pocket (as it usually is).
Have to swap phone to other pocket when walking with my headphones – invariably means I am scrabbling for my phone in the wrong pocket whenever I get to a set of Underground barriers!
After discovering that my Bose SoundSport Free wireless headphones would not hold a connection with my Fenix 5S Plus, I tried numerous other true wireless headphones. The only ones that I’ve found to work well are the Sony WF-SP700N headphones. I believe they work because they have a receiver in both ears (importantly in the left ear closest to my left wrist where I wear my watch).
I use the AfterShokz Trekz Air headphones – no dropouts for me, and they are open ear headphones so you can also hear your surroundings, which should address some of the concerns noted from the Girl in the most recent DCR newsletter.
Ryan, could you please tell the firmware version number and the build date of your SoundSport Wireless free? I had to return mine and got a new pair which work – at least – work on an AW3LTE without dropouts.
How’s the battery life say you run 1hr every day?
Ray, you say you don’t think that we will see Spotify on Apple Watch because it is competitive with Apple Music. I don’t think that is the case. WatchOS 5 has a new audio background mode that would allow anyone to include their streaming service on the Watch. There was even a session at WWDC on that. It even hooks into their workout app. If Apple wanted to prevent competition they would not have added this framework, although I suppose they could still reject the app – I think we might hear about that though. Spotify is already on the phone, so I think the ball is in Spotify’s court. That being said, Spotify is still not on AppleTV, although, again, I think that is on Spotify.
It’s true, that does open the door more – no doubt.
Whether or not Spotify leverages that door, and whether or not Apple restricts them in other ways that make the platform nonviable remains to be seen. I think that’s always the hidden aspect of any development effort, is there some gotchya in the way Apple constructed it that Spotify can’t get around (or Apple won’t change), or is Apple truly open to it.
Obviously, Spotify on Apple Watch would be big for Spotify (and also a big hit against Apple Music too).
Yeah I agree with you Mike – I don’t see Apple rejecting a spotify app for their watch.
That indeed makes no sense at all, what Ray is saying. Otherwise why would they support Waze and Google Maps on CarPlay?
Seems illogical and shortsighted.
We’ll see. I’d be happy for Spotify to come to Apple Watch, but ultimately there’s nothing logical about the music industry.
Things like CarPlay are in entirely different groups which have different priorities.
Looks like things might be getting closer for Apple Watch and Spotify: link to theverge.com
Wow! Game Changer! Anxious for 645M
You mean I might actually be able to ditch the Mighty?
What’s the % impact on battery life (i.e. is it viable for long ultras where battery life is alrady an issue)
No difference on battery life than other Garmin music sources. It varies slightly by model of course.
Felix 5 a possibility?
No, it lacks the music capabilities.
I am surprised to see people this is a big deal. Honestly, I just don’t get it and that is ok because we are all different. But this day and age I am not running without my phone, wife, kids, etc. Its not that I want to be in contact, its just that extra bit of safety for me and to stay in contact in case of emergency. Plus, if I happen to get hurt (44 yrs old, so I could break a hip), a phone is all to convenient. So, if I have my phone that is what I would rather use for music anyways.
Rather than spotfiy, I would rather have them fill up the damn screen on the 935 and eliminate that god awful large black bezel.
I’m in the same camp myself, in my book music is useless unless it comes with LTE as otherwise I may just as well carry my phone and then the music can be controlled from the watch anyway.
Just recently got a smartwatch with LTE to wear on other wrist, so now I don’t even have to bother with offline downloads. Just stream on the go. Calls work great too. Even when I don’t listen to music I can answer a call on the built in speaker of the watch.
Hopefully some day I can have all this on one device from Garmin.
Well, for me it’s actually those casual moments when I don’t need any additional security that I do like to listen to music…
During more demanding runs I bring the phone but like tovstay more focus and don’t want music.
eSim is a must on next Garmin devices.
They are already late!!
Cellular is more complex, and its usage is tricky. Cellular service burns battery like nobody’s business – so that’d be a shift for Garmin, which usually focuses on devices that last 5-14 days on a charge. Obviously, not saying they won’t do it, but there will be compromises.
The other challenge is that it’d be unlikely that Garmin would want to do live streaming of music over cellular during a workout, since that’s really just doubling down on the power consumption challenges.
Ultimately, there’s a crapton of people that don’t want to carry their phone on a run, or even at the gym. When I’m at the gym my phone is off to the side, and not something I prefer to carry with me from station/set/whatever to another.
Just look at apple’s latest iwatch:
Up to 10 hours playback from Apple Watch storage
Up to 7 hours streaming playlist with LTE
Up to 5 hours streaming live radio with LTE
Up to 4 hours outdoor workout with streaming audio, GPS, and LTE
link to apple.com
(Outdoor workout with streaming audio, GPS, and LTE tested with a playlist using the default cellular streaming quality setting. (so gps knocks off 3 hours of battery life)
I didn’t think about the gym, I could see that as useful. If you are lifting weights a phone gets in the way.
I am not sure I would even want lte. I preference battery life .
Do ypu have to do anything to already downloaded playlist to “refresh” the DRM?
I guess that’s a justified reasoning. Some people might burn their battery in a matter of hours and then complain about it. But in the end, doesn’t battery life always vary by use on a device? Does that mean the feature set should be more limited if it’s technically possible?
As for me, I don’t even always listen to music. Standby doesn’t eat battery that much and if I stream music I can always charge the device after the run. I could do offline as well if I wanted to save battery, but that’s always extra work to do and less convenient.
In the end, after having a few injuries and other accidents (once got attacked by a dog that had escaped its owner) I’d rather not go running without cellular anymore. But I do admit that at first I thought I wouldn’t need it either.
Any idea when/if this will be available for the Fenix 5 Sapphire Edition…?
All Plus editions, but no non-Plus editions, as those don’t have any music support.
Bummer, thanks for the info.
This is indeed fantastic news. I’ve been getting by with trial versions of deezer and runcasts on my fenix 5 plus, but Spotify is such a better answer.
One question – is Spotify limited to 500Mb of storage on the watch? (Pretty sure that both deezer and runcasts are restricted to 500Mb each, which can fill up quickly with podcasts)
No, not limited to that. I’ve got something like 1,500 Spotify songs downloaded before I gave up on downloading songs because I got bored of adding them.
Is the Deezer 500 mb limit given by Deezer or Garmin?
not sure who is enforcing the limit. But from the deezer support FAQ it states that it is limited to 500Mb and any playlists of over 150 songs may cause issues:
link to support.deezer.com
but doesn’t matter to me anymore as I’ve now removed Deezer
It is/was a Garmin limit. I believe it’s slowly being upped/removed.
Otherwise it would be a competitive disadvantage for Deezer etc.
But Garmin listed Spotify also with the 500 mb limit:
link to support.garmin.com
So someone from Garmin should bring some clarification.
It’s gone for Spotify – I couldn’t have downloaded 1,500 songs without it gone. I chatted with Garmin about it, and it sounds like it’ll be even for all players shortly.
Hey DC “There’s no question this is a big deal. Since the Forerunner 645 was first announced way back in January at CES, the unavoidable follow-up question was always ‘When’s Spotify coming?’. The answer to that wasn’t in Garmin’s hands, but rather, Spotify’s. That’s generally the way music streaming services work – the streaming service holds the reigns there. ” I think you meant “reins”. Thanks for the review.
It is still needed a wifi connection or the phone once a playlist is downloaded on the watch to listen to it????
No phone/connection needed once downloaded.
Great news but any plans to have a new update for the 935 (which is an amazing watch) with Music capabilities?
in additon, what’s the effect on battery usage while working with Music during workouts? how much can it last?
having the 935 on my wrist 24/7 and using it for running (~100K/week) and charging it only for few mins everyday when taking a shower.
I was recently looking into headphones that I can use for running and on my stationary bike. I saw you mention Skullfamily headphones that you used on this run. Looking at their website I couldn’t find any headphones for sport. Which ones are you using?
While searching I came across AfterShokz Trekz Air (link to aftershokz.com). While quite pricey, I like the idea of hearing my surroundings when running. However, I’d like to know how well they work in real life before spending quite heavily on these. Have you, or anybody else here, ever tried either these AfterShokz or any other bone conduction headphones?
Any hints/tips/experiences are much appreciated!
Oops, never mind my question on the Skullcany earphones … missed the link in your article. Sorry!
I have the Trekz Air – highly recommended.
The work brilliantly with both my Fenix 5 plus (I have had no dropouts in a month of running, snowboarding, riding etc) and also with my phone.
In fact they can pair simultaneously with both a phone and a watch, which is very handy if you get a phone call whilst listening to music from your watch
And the fact that you can hear traffic and other background noise makes them far safer for cycling.
Thanks for sharing your experience Matt. Highly appreciated!
@James: you should take a good look at these headphones, they might solve your ” I need to hear what’s going on around me” problem :-)
I have a pair of AfterShokz. After a run I can stand there & carry on a conversation with someone while music is still playing & hear both the person & the music just fine. However, this is also the downside; because your ears aren’t blocked, I find situations with even moderate background noise overwhelm the AfterShokz & I can’t hear the music that I’m playing. For example, the music in the place where we get a post-run beer overwhelms my AfterShokz.
It’s interesting to see these watches evolving but I just don’t like running outside with music. I need to hear what’s going on around me. When exercising in the gym I’ll have my phone with me which means this functionality isn’t needed.
Good news and overview! Great to have Spotify.
Question: Did Garmin (or Polar, Suunto, etc.) announce any future plans on integrating LTE capability into their watches?
And another one: did any smartwatch vendor already consider to pack a camera in it? … when trail running (or in new places) it would always be handy to be able to take a picture when I don’t have my phone around.
… desperately hoping to ditch my phone during runs ;-)
Great news! Now I just have to wait for the Fenix5+ to go on sale. I guess chances for that to happen this year (Black Friday, Christmas?) are essentially zero?
Would Spotify also work on the D2 Delta-series?
“Simple math I find is about 1 minute per 10 seconds.”
Shouldn’t it be “songs” instead of “seconds”?
Thanks!
How about the sync between watch and phone? Would be great if they remember where the other device stopped. I do not want to start the playlist every time from the beginning.
Nothing today.
Hi, does someone know if all people on a Spotify family account can use their individual Garmin watches?
To clarify: A family of two with a Spotify Family account. Both persons in the family have their own Garmin Fenix 5 Plus and both have a Spotify account belonging to the family account. Can both use their Spotify on their Garmin?
Because Deezer on Garmin only allows the main account holder to use Deezer-Music on his/her Garmin.
(see link to support.deezer.com )
I gave up on Deezer for a similar reason (Apple CarPlay & Sonos speakers only worked with main Deezer account).
Both CarPlay & Sonos work perfectly with Spotify family accounts using the account of the person listening.
Yes, all family members can use it this way, as all family accounts are premium.
Does the Spotify app support local files?
I have some songs that are not available on Spotify that I was able to add to playlists on my computer and also on my phone using wifi sync. I have a Mighty but that doesn’t support local files so if this does it could push me to upgrade my watch sooner.
The watch supports local files independent of the Spotify app. But I don’t think you can mix the two while listening… as in I don’t think you can shuffle between music providers (one being local files and the other being Spotify).
Can you select download quality? I imagine that higher quality downloads have a bigger impact on battery life. If it only downloads at “normal” quality, that’s reason enough for me to stick with my Mighty.
Ha! I thought I was just adding a picture for the avatar. Excuse the retro graphic. ?
No, you can’t change the download quality.
Thanks for clarifying! Dealbreaker! ?
What about Mighty‘s connectivity with Bluetooth earphones? Is that ok? No skips during playback? I was considering acquiring one, but read some mixed reviews about that
Ray, can we search for your playlists on Spotify?
I don’t really have any custom playlists. I just tend to follow others.
Is there any chance of other platforms following in Spotify’s wake. Specifically Amazon with Audible?
I expect to see others. In many ways, Spotify was the elephant that Garmin put a lot of resources on getting out the door over the last 6 months or so. Thus, I think you’ll see that now that Spotify is mostly behind them* that you’ll see them turn heir attention to other streaming platforms again.
*Obviously they have to release the FR645M and Vivoactive 3 Music apps, but I don’t see that as a major effort, and in some cases is more procedural than anything.
I would be in heaven if Amazon would get behind this… I just can’t seem to like Deezer off this free trial.
I like Deezer but would like to have Spotify mainly because everyone else is on Spotify – ie sharing playlists. I am very anxious to get Spotify AND Audible (or Google Books) on the 645M. I would even take Audible first and put up with Deezer for a while longer.
Has anyone managed to put a book on their Garmin yet? How did you do it? How was the play back? Any chapter support? Resume?
Just want to make sure I’m understanding this. Can I put my Spotify music on my Garmin plus and not have my phone with me but still listen to music?
If so, will it work while I’m trail running with no wifi?
Thank you!
Correct, no phone required while running. No WiFi required while running. Purely bring your watch – that’s it. Well, that and headphones.
Thank you!
Couple of questions regarding Spotify’s podcast function. Do podcast download as a playlist or do you need to individually pick which episode to download from the watch? When you finish listening to a podcast episode, do you need to manually delete it (“edit downloads” button) or would it auto delete when you click on the “update downloads” button? Also, do you know if these music-enabled Garmin watches support variable speed playback? Is that something that could possibly be supported for podcast or audiobook playback? Unclear if there is any hardware or software limitation that may not allow it.
Hi, what I have seen so far:
– you can only pick individual episodes
– you need to manually download them individually
– you can delete all or individual episodes
So basically your left to managing everything manually on a watch…guess I’ll keep my phone with me for a while.
Is it only me or isn’t the actual podcast use case:
You subscribe to a podcast, all new episodes are made available (aka downloaded), once you’ve listened to an episode it is removed and if a new episode is published it gets added automatically.
Wish Garmin/Spotify get this done some time (or it is there and I am simply too stupid to see it).
This, exactly. I really, really wish Garmin and Spotify had a way to automatically sync 1-3 of the latest episodes of my favorite podcasts to my Fenix 5 Plus while I’m home at night, without me going through a 10-minute, multi-step, manual process before I run.
Yup, I agree, that’d be awesome.
Do you anticipate this is something they will make happen?
Clear sign that new Forerunner is on its way ;)
Hi! I have already tried the app it seems to work fine BUT
i can´t unistall it how do you do that?!?
and now it seem i have no acces to previously downloaded music?!?
thanks in advance Ray
At last I was able to uninstall Spotify as usual through iq Connect app but still don´t know how to acces previously downloaded music since the menú goes directly to spotify….
Hi Mike,
Have you tried going to source and selecting My Music instead of Spotify to access previously downloaded music? Thats how I switch between Deezer and My Music on my 645M.
Also re uninstalling the app… you should be able to do it via the Garmin app on your phone – same place you went to install it?
Thanks for your reply Dennis, I have tried already but nothing now I am train through Garmin Express, it says the music is there so I have deleted and uninstalled everything and try again.
Well tried again through Garmin express buy nothing, the music is in the watch or so it says Garmin express but when I access to the music through the DOWN button or LIGHT button I can only access to Spotify music the only options I see is 1library 2 volume 3 Back track 4 Random but no sight of the gear icon to choose the music source.
Any help?
Someone else with this problem?
Well tried again through Garmin express buy nothing, the music is in the watch or so it says Garmin express but when I access to the music through the DOWN button or LIGHT button I can only access to Spotify music the only options I see is 1library 2 volume 3 Back track 4 Random but no sight of the gear icon to choose the music source.
Any help?
Someone else with this problem?
Mike, goto Settings > Music > Music Providers, from there you can change how you get your tunes.
Yes!!! Thanks a lot Lee that “worked” now it changed the music source, the watch is not able to display the music (maybe too many songs? 6gb) but a least it changed.
Thanks again Lee.
Saved my day! Thank you! I got really annoyed when I lost my music after installing the spotify app and notbeing able to uninstall…
Ray,
Has the Fenix 5 plus become now your go to running watch? Or is it still the 935?
Yeah, at this point with Spotify it’s what I prefer. This pretty much sealed the deal this summer for me.
To me, this is exciting news. I understand that there are those people who don’t like to run with music and whatnot, but I am one who feels like listening to music enhances the running experience, especially on long runs. And I am a running minimalist who doesn’t like carrying keys, a wallet, or a phone while running. That being said, I just read The Girl’s newsletter today, and she has a very good point about not listening to music while running for safety reasons. There are plenty of stories about women being attacked while running, especially while running in the evening with earbuds in. That’s a very dangerous scenario, even for men, so I do think you need to be careful and constantly aware of your surroundings. Still, this is a great feature to have on the watch while you’re doing an indoor run, doing spin or working out. And the controls are stupid simple like Ray said. Even before this announcement, I was able to use my Fenix 5 Plus as a remote while streaming Spotify in my car or at home which I think is pretty cool. I imagine you can do the same thing with Pandora or any music streaming service. I was hopeful that Spotify would come to Garmin at some point and super thrilled that it happened sooner than later. I’m even more thrilled that we didn’t have to wait until the Fenix 6 or some new watch comes out to have access to our Spotify account.
DC. Not sure if I missed this in the article or any of the comments. Do you need a paid spotify account to use this? Or, can you download playlists on a free spotify account? I’m not a spotify user so don’t know much about it. Thanks
From the top of the article:
“Note that Spotify requires a Spotify Premium account in order to make this all work.”
Ok. Thanks.
Might be worth mentioning that this does NOT appear to be available yet for APAC models.
Basically people living in the Asia-Pacific are treated like second-class citizens that get everything months after the rest of the world. Sigh.
Also – I’ve had multiple Skullcandy Method headhpones go kaput after connecting with my Garmin Fenix 5 Plus. Several other people on Amazon reviews and on the Garmin forums have noted the same. Skullcandy support is no help – ‘you must have put the headset into programming mode’ etc etc. It’s unfortunate because otherwise I love the Skullcandy earbuds, but when I run without my phone and just my Fenix, I use different wireless headsets.
Spotify working perfectly on an NZ purchased watch (which I assume is an APAC model?) here…
Pretty obvious that if you don’t know….it’s not APAC since Garmin Express clearly shows APAC right in the main window when you connect your watch, and in any event you wouldn’t be able to update to 5.10 otherwise.
For Garmin, Australia and New Zealand are ROW models, not APAC. Agree it’s kinda weird, but consider yourself lucky ;-)
What BT codecs does the Fenix 5 Plus family support? AptX? AAC? Vanilla BT codec? Thanks.
wordt de Descent MK1 ook ge-upgrade naar de inhoud (tools) van de Fenix5x plus
Not when asking in Dutch. Duh!
HI DC
Do you think Polar Advantage series will have this feature?
And a Watch paying system?
My V800 broke and i was wondering to get a Garmin after seeing this post.
Thanks and keep the good work
I don’t believe the Vantage has anywhere near the storage space on it to do so. And honestly, even if it did – it would still have to convince Spotify to allow them to integrate, which it’s highly unlikely Spotify would do given how much work it took for Garmin to convince them (and Garmin’s sales numbers dwarf Polar’s).
DCRM –
Are you thinking weeks or months for the 645M?
Replacing a dying 910xt and the 645M covers my needs but immediate music + 16g storage may be worth the premium on a Fenix 5s Plus especially if Spotify is going to twiddle their thumbs for a while on the 645M/VA3
Thanks!
I don’t think it’ll be months.
Hi, I am looking to buy my first garmin watch and the spotify feature has convinced me to go with a Fenix 5S. My question is, do I need the sapphire version with wifi capability for it to work or does the regular model work, too? Any other reasons one should get the wifi (or is it not worth it)? Thanks for your help. Regards, Esther
Sorry, I meant the fenix 5S plus..
Nope, the 5S Plus will work just fine!
Hi,
i live in Indonesia, and i unable to find Spotify app in the IQ Store (but available in US IQ Store). Anyhow i could download the spotify app to my fenix 5x plus?
thanks
Hendriyanto, I would imagine that you have an APAC model (does Garmin Express say ‘APAC) when you connect to your PC?)
You need firmware version 5.10 to be able to download the Spotify app from the IQ store – but 5.10 has not been rolled out for APAC yet – in fact, APAC hasn’t even gotten the 4.74 update, we’re still stuck on 4.20. I’d imagine it will be at least a couple more weeks before APAC gets Spotify.
Can You update info about music listening capabilities at model comparison calculator aswell?
Good idea!
Does Spotify scrobbling of listened songs get updated to Last.fm?
Yes it does. When you update downloads to your watch over wifi, it does scrobble to last.fm. The order of the songs is not correct and date and time is set to when you do the update. But hey – it does scrobble :)
This is good news. Personally I still think Garmin screwed the pooch on music intergration seeing as the 645M was so touted as a music running watch. Hopefully we’ll see it appear over on the 645M soon as the Deezer app is a massive let down
I think you’ll see it pretty soon.
I just went to Connect IQ and couldn’t find the Spotify App for my FR 645 Music. I live in Mexico. Is it only available in tbenUS?
It hasn’t been released yet for the FR645.
This just made the 5+ my next watch… If only I can convince myself it’s worth the $850 upgrade over my current 3 HR ?
I have a fenix 5+ but it does allow me to download, stating my device is not compatible.
Double check that your devices firmware is fully updated. It should be at 5.00 or higher (ideally 5.10).
It’s updated. It could be region locked?
Odd – I’m told there’s no region lock. Technically there’s also a Bluetooth update you need, but it’d be really difficult to get to 5.00 or 5.10 without it.
If you have a desktop/laptop, the easiest way to absolutely confirm is using Garmin Express or the trusty Garmin Webupdater with the USB cable, to make sure it’s fully up to date, specifically the extra Bluetooth firmware bits (since that’s technically separate).
Thanks for taking the time to reply. My bad, the software on my device is 4.2. And unfortunately thats the latest for my region. 5.0 and 5.10 are both not available to donwload yet. Ive tried via usb and bluetooth. Is there anyway i can force update or download from another region ?
As noted several times above – and as shown in your screen shot – you have an APAC model. The later firmware updates from Garmin are not compatible with APAC models, forcing an update is almost certainly A Bad Idea.
Why APAC models are stuck on a different update schedule versus the rest of the world, and way it takes weeks or months for APAC to get the latest updates, is a question for Garmin (maybe something to do with double-byte character needs?) but in any event – you’re advised to wait.
Thank you. Much appreciated. Will just have to be patient then. =)
Garmin just updated the Fenix5 Plus APAC software version 5.10 change log at
link to www8.garmin.com…s.jsp?id=14169
They just removed all references to Spotify.
It looks like the APAC version isn’t going to be getting Spotify for a while…..
Hi, is it possible to download spotify playlists to the watch without having to stream – so I could run and listen my choice of music without having to carry my phone with me?
Yes, that’s the main use-case of the Spotify-integration.
Why no double tap or long press within activity to change the song?? The three click process to change a song is terrible.
I have one data screen while racing but I like to change song depending on temp and such….
Is this possible? Just a long press or double tap to change songs
That’s actually a cool idea for a hotkey. My bet is if you suggested it to Garmin they’d probably implement it.
how does one do that? is their a proper channel?
There are two main avenues.
The first is more general to Garmin for suggestions, which is: link to garmin.com
And the second is to the Fenix team specifically, which is to e-mail fenix5.beta@garmin.com – that’s also concurrently used for bug reporting, but I’ve been told that well thought out (but not overly wordy) suggestions are considered through, and it tends to get directly to the team in question and is read by the right lead people at the team.
I think the ability to assign a hot-key to the skip function would be a relatively low effort task with a potential big impact.
Done…appreciate the assistance. Adding this would really make the watch a true dedicated player replacement. Cause you know, when that Nikelback song comes up on the playlist, you can’t hit the next key fast enough
Have you heard anything on the release date for Spotify on the 645M? I’m tired of checking the connect store everyday. :). Thank you!
Nothing yet.
its available today 31/10/2018 in EMEA on my Garmin 645 Music
It is also available today for US.
Installed already on my FR 645 Music.
Well, finally got Spotify installed on this APAC model, and it works great. HOWEVER – it seems to really chew threw battery life. I’ve gone for 3+ hour events and only had my Fenix 5 Plus lose 5% or so of its battery charge.
I’ve now done two runs with the Fenix 5 Plus using Spotify. On the first run, the battery went from 65% to 35% in about 45 minutes. This morning it went from 45% to critical battery save / shut down in 70 minutes.
DC, have you noticed any abnormally fast battery usage using Spotify with your Fenix 5 Plus?
I’ve noticed a much higher than normal battery drain on my 645M too actually, both when just sitting in my apt & during a run (compared to playing music I’d simply moved from my comp to the watch before we got the Spotify app, never ended up trying iHeartradio or Deezer. Wondering if it might have to do with how often it’s checking for playlist changes when connected to my home wifi, but that wouldn’t explain the extra battery drain when out for a run & listening to music.. Anyone else notice this?
Don’t know about the 645M, but the really fast battery drain has been noted on the Garmin forums. The battery itself didn’t magically get worse, so it’s clearly a firmware issue, so (hopefully) will be fixed with an update at some point. As it is now, I can’t really use Spotify on a run etc. unless I’m fully charged and/or the workout is less than an hour.
Hi,
Very happy to have hear this, spotify is now available on garmin. Now we are even happy to have introduced a software that imports file easily from Spotify to Google play, itunes etc. For this check MusConv.com
Now available for the Garmin 645 music.
Still waiting on the vivoactive 3 music. Hopefully soon
What is the battery life for the fenix 5 plus when listening to music. Hiw can you get the most from the watch while running and listening to music. 6-7 hrs battery life is what I am hoping for most
The battery life for the Fenix 5 Plus when listening to music normally is reasonable. I’ve done long runs (2 hours or so) and only lost 5-8% of battery life. You should get 6-7 hours without a problem, assuming you’re reasonably charged up.
Battery life using Spotify on the Fenix 5 Plus is *horrendous*. You’ll lose 40% of battery life or more in an hour. 2-3 hours max, even if fully charged.
The battery didn’t suddenly get worse (and only get worse with the Spotify app) so I am hoping this is something that can be fixed with a firmware update. As it is now, I avoid using the Spotify app for long runs.
Are you sure on the 5-8% in 2hrs? That doesn’t seem right, that seems very high. That sounds like it’s pulling from a phone for music, and just using GPS.
The watch specifications only say 6-8 hours for a full charged device for GPS+Music. Which is basically the same as any other music device on the market.
hi! I’m really interested to have Garmin Forerunner with Spotify. However, the most important to me it’s still that the basic functions work well (speed, distance, heart beat etc.). Just wonder could this Spotify be only a sales trick or additional feature worth to pay extra? Is there any update to battery usage when listening Spotify during your training?
There’s no change to the basic functions. The battery life is the same as normal music at this point, I’ve seen no changes there.
I’m not sure I’d call it a sales trick – a ton of people want/wanted Spotify, and now they have it. No different than any other feature folks want.
Is there other apps you can use for the music download other than Spotify that give better battery performance
What I do is to download Spotify to local files using the Audfree Spotify converter to mp3 and then transfer them to my Garmin watch for offline listening. I haven’t tested it myself but it should be able to store about 300 songs. Here’s the tutorial: link to audfree.com
I found a detailed tutorial on how to play Spotify music on Garmin watch for free with AudKit Spotify playlist converter. I have tested it and it really works. Reference: link to audkit.com
Hi DC,
Only just bought the Fenix 5 Plus and I’m super excited. Your videos are tremendous to get me started and navigate my way through the endless options.
When trying to set up Spotify though, I keep getting a ‘your device needs to be updated via Garmin Express’. When I go there, I’m not really sure what I’m updating exactly or where to do this. Have you run into this and, if so, any tips?
Thanks!
No prob!
Updates can occur via one of three basics ways:
A) USB cable to computer
B) WiFi if configured
C) Bluetooth Smart to your phone
All three ways work, though can kinda serve different purposes. Generally speaking the Bluetooth/WiFi update manner is great when you don’t really care and an update just magically arrives some random day. However, when you want to immeditaely force an update, the computer USB cable is your best bet.
Within that, Garmin has two options:
A) Garmin Express: This is the main option, a desktop app for Mac/PC that has all the options/trimming, including adding apps and syncing music and stuff. It’s mostly what Garmin wants you to use. You can just search “Garmin Express” in Google, download it and follow the steps and your device gets updated.
B) Garmin WebUpdater: However, back in the day (like a decade ago), Garmin previously made an app called Garmin WebUpdate. It’s singular purpose in life is updating Garmin devices. Fitness, Car, boat, train, plane, etc… Ok, not train – but all the rest. It’s super efficient and works 100% of the time. It’s what I tend to use for quick updates.
In any event, I’d probably just use Garmin Express for the easiest option. Once updated, then the Spotify app will work. Also, while you’re at it, Garmin Express will ask you to configure your home WiFi. You should do that, since you’ll need it for Spotify anyways so it’ll save you some time.
Enjoy!
Sigh. I forgot there wasn’t support VA3m and bought it over Black Friday. Now I have to decide whether I should return it and get a 645m or wait it out.
Hi Angel,
I’m in EXACTLY the same boat!! ..and now trying to decide if I have faith in garmin to get the VA3M on board, or return the watch.
See DC’s reply #154 in this thread…contains a link to send a suggestion directly to Garmin. Let’s both push them on availability of Spotify on our VA3Ms!!
Spotify on 645m is a massive game changer.
People having any issues?
Is this only for the M type models ie 645 Music vivoactive Music? Or also the regular 645 and vivoactive.
I’m about to choose which one to buy so this could be a decision maker
Only the ‘M’ variants – for Music. The non-M variants don’t have the required storage space in them.
I’ve never used Spotify, but I am presuming that I have to pay a subscription in order to get music onto my watch so that I can play it without having my phone with me?
I am of course referring to music that I do not fully own (i.e NOT an MP3 etc). I don’t currently own much music and I am not sure I really want to pay a subscription either, so with this is in mind would you say the Vivoactive 3 music does not offer me anything over the non-music edition?
The Vivoactive 3 Music does not have on board audio for alarms does it? I would prefer to have an audible beep when timers expire.
Correct on Spotify. But Garmin supports other platforms too, like Deezer and iHeartRadio (also subscription).
If you do have any owned music, then you can transfer that no problem without a subscription. I’d agree that if you don’t have any of those things, the non-music variant will suit just fine.
Correct, it does not have audio beeps onboard.
Any news on Spotify for VA3m?
Nuttin’. I’m hoping though that with CES two weeks away we’ll maybe here something then.
OK, but is Spotify for VA3m a matter of time or is it a risk that it will not be supported at all?
Received the Vivoactive 3Music as a Christmas gift….anxiously awaiting update to include Spotify- not interested in another music subscription to iheartradio or stale playlists from my old collection of cds. If not released soon, I will have to return it.
Spotify for VA3(M), “ASAP” PLEASE!!!!
I’m currently listening to Spotify via my Garmin Fenix 5+ >> this watch has been worth every $ >> love love love the ease of Spotify /setting up /downloading playlists / running without my phone /music plays seamless >>oh & the tracking of activities also easy to use, however I’m still only learning the full capabilities
@Keri
How does it compare to the Vivoactive 3 Music, have you used both heavily?
I know the Fenix 5+ is a higher end model, but that’s about all I know in terns of differences.
Can you “stream” Spotify, or do you have to download the entire playlist(s) first?
I can stream Spotify with my Galaxy Watch 46mm LTE, as it always has a cellular connection.
Thank-you.
I have vivoactive 3. Have Spotify hooked up and use. However seems like every 3 days I am out of battery. Should I be log out of Spotify to save battery on my garmin watch? Or is this tropical. Seems like my Fitbit battery lasted longer.
If you want to move playlist from spotify to deezer or vice versa then use MusConv.com tool which i personally tried. It’s a great tool.
Is this workaround currently necessary or is Spotify support finally on the VM3? I’m curious about the battery concerns since my 645M barely lasts 24hrs WITHOUT an activity or playing music at this point. My battery seems to get worse the more songs I sync via Spotify. Planning to call Garmin about it, but was debating picking up VM3 as a backup if they need me to send the 645M back for a replacement or repair or something.
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What happens to the music on the device if you are no longer a Spotify premium member? Can you still use the so far downloaded music?
Within 30 days it’ll stop working (since you have to sync every 30 days).
Is there a way to auto-update downloads?
Thanks for your reply Dennis, I have tried already but nothing now I am train through Garmin Express, it says the music is there so I have deleted and uninstalled everything and try again.
I take advantage of the AfterShokz Trekz Air headphones – no dropouts for me, and they are open ear headphones so that you also can hear your environment, which ought to cope with a number of the concerns referred to from the lady in the maximum current DCR newsletter.
Have you noticed if you have Spotify installed and try to access a widget DURING an activity by holding the left lower (down) button, only Spotify comes up? There is no way to scroll to the other widgets?
Am I missing something? Basically, I want to access my widgets (compass) during an activity (hike) but I can’t.
Thoughts anyone please?
Thanks,
Mike
Anyone know how to start a playlist over from the beginning? I’ve got a 200 song playlist that I’d like to start from the first song on race day, without clicking back over 100 times.
I would also love to know if there is a way to auto-update the playlists (both to update songs and to keep Spotify currebt on my fenix)
It’s annoying not being able to play songs on a run because I’ve forgotten to connect to Spotify with my fenix for more than 30 days.
Other than that, Spotify+Garmin is awesome!
No method unfortunately, but I agree, I’m hoping that’s on the radar.
Hi,
I downloaded an audiobook from Spotify and it has around 300 songs. At first, the playlist pointed to shuffle. How can I navigate to the first song/entry of that playlist?
Is it possible to higher Spotify sound quality on fenix 6.
I am not satisfied with the quality of the sound using Spotify on my Fenix 6, can I somehow higher the sound quality?
Hi, I like to listen to podcasts while running and would usually listen to them at 1.5x playback speed. Any idea if the Spotify app in the Garmin watch allows you to do this? That would be fantastic. Thank you.
When i’m listening to spotify on my Garmin watch, will it then count up the minutes of listening time onn my actual spotify account? I’m trying to reach a goal.
Just found a powerful tool that can help play Spotify music on Garmin watch. No matter you are the free or the premium users of Spotify, you both can make it easy. This tool is DRmare Spotify Music Converter. If you want to try it out, you could search it on Google for more details. Hope it will help you.
The app is glitchy on my watch, I prefer download Spotify songs with TunesKit Spotify Music Converter and then play on the watch offline.
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