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The Wahoo KICKR Desk In-Depth Review

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It’s been over 5 years since Wahoo’s first product, the Wahoo Fisica ANT+ adapter for the iPhone.  That was later renamed to the Wahoo Fitness Key.  Then came the BlueHR, a Bluetooth Smart heart rate strap.  But their ‘breakout’ product was likely the Wahoo KICKR, the first dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart trainer, and the first trainer to provide an open interface for any 3rd party app to develop against it.  Now, all of those features are commonplace.

But silly as it may be, as any trainer user knows – one of most befuddling things about using a trainer for a long winter workout is where to stash various essentials.  Extra water bottles for those multi-hour sessions, or a laptop to watch movies on.  Or even just a safe place for your phone to be charging while riding in between tweets or Snapchat selfies.

And thus, Wahoo’s back at it – with the Wahoo KICKR…Desk.

Now, this desk shouldn’t be a surprise product.  You’ll remember I showed a super-early prototype about 18 months ago, in this ‘behind the scenes’ post at the Wahoo HQ.  It’s neat to see how much it’s evolved from that.

The Unboxing:

Back in early November the company sent me out the KICKR desk to poke at for a while until announcement.  Somewhat amusingly, it was delivered to the bar/restaurant next to the CupCakery (where we ship almost everything).  While this occasionally occurs, this is definitely the most obtuse box to grace their dining room.

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I then dragged it a few blocks away to the DCR Cave to get started:

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The box doesn’t have a ton of parts, so this isn’t some sort of complex endeavor requiring your cycling buddies’ assist.

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For fun, I decided to simply create a quick time-lapse in setting it up and the basics of it, which, you can enjoy here:

The whole install only took a few minutes, so pretty quick and easy.

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It probably would have been quicker if I wasn’t trying to ensure I wasn’t getting in the way of the camera.

Desk Features:

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The desk, as simple as it may appear at a glance, actually has quite a few features built into it.  Let’s run through them.

First up, is that the thing rolls.  So it’s easily slid out of the way (or closer), as you see fit:

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Though, there’s no lock on any of the three wheels, which I’ll talk about in the next section.

Next up is that the table portion is non-slip, and has a gripping rubber surface.  This ensures that a simple nudge won’t send your rose-gold iPhone 6s flying off onto your garage’s concrete floor.

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Along both the front and back edges of the desk are small channels.  These channels allow you to slide a tablet or phone into the groove to keep it held upright.

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Here it is with an iPad placed in there:

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In addition, you’ll see small holes in the bottom of the grooves.  This permits charging cables to pass through, allowing the tablet/phone/etc…to remain plugged into juice while in the tray.  You can see one such charging cable running down below it.

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The channels also allow for cable organization too.

(Side note: I think I’m going to affix a small USB hub like this one to the bottom of my desk, thus enabling a single power cable to the wall outlet, but allowing me to charge multiple devices on the desk: Phone, tablet, USB powered beer can fridge, etc…)

Additionally, on the two far corners are two larger holes, that you can loop a towel into:

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Finally, the whole thing adjusts in height up/down using these two blue buttons (one on each side).

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The unit locks across a variety of heights every inch or so, from 33” to 48” high (84cm to 122cm). You can see that adjustment up/down in the video earlier on – it’s pretty thrilling.

You can see that it easily clears my aerobars, which point upwards.  Of course, in this configuration you wouldn’t ride in the bars.  But you need only give it a light shove to push the desk forward of the bars. You could even lower it below the bars – making your laptop directly out in front of your head.

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I haven’t tested the total ‘load capacity’ of the table, though I wouldn’t be surprised if I could sit on it.  The steel frame is pretty beastly (sorta like the KICKR itself).  I wouldn’t want to use it repeatedly for any other body-weight bearing activities, but you’d be hard-pressed to put more on it than it could hold.

Desk Accuracy:

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Within the robust confines of my desk accuracy testing system, I have validated that the desk goes both up, and down.  It’s able to do this repeatedly, and reliably.  Further, all holes are usable.  Additionally, the desk rolls forward and backward, also repeatedly.  And sometimes too robustly.

The only accuracy issues I’ve seen are due to my testing platform.  Specifically, that the floors in my building – which were built some 230 years ago, aren’t flat.  As a result, while testing the ability to zero-offset the desk, it will roll away by itself.  Typically this results in a rider to desk collision, as the floors decline towards the rider in the DCR cave.

The cause of this unexpected rolling (aside from the non-level floors) is that the KICKR Desk includes surprisingly low-rolling resistance wheels.  So it easily slides out of the way…or in this case, in the way.

However, I have found that by placing any non-rolling object found on earth, in front of the wheels of the KICKR desk, that it won’t roll downhill.  Examples of objects I’ve used are: Random single screw (Philips head), one USB charging cable (coiled), one water bottle (DCR branded), one small dog (until it moved), and a single 9V battery (used).

Thus given the confines of the testing rig, I’m not seeing any accuracy issues with the KICKR Desk.

Frequently Asked Questions:

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In an attempt to stem the massive tide of complex questions for the KICKR Desk, I’ve put together a small FAQ section:

Is the KICKR Desk compatible with a tandem bike?

The KICKR desk would be supported for the first rider, however the second rider would be unable to utilize the desk – given the placement of the body of the first rider.

Is the KICKR Desk compatible with the KICKR SNAP?

Yes, it has KICKR in the title, right?

Is the KICKR Desk compatible with non-Wahoo trainers?

Assuming the trainer involves a bike, then yes, it’s compatible with it*.

*Except as noted for secondary rear rider on a tandem bike.

What is the price of the KICKR Desk?

$229USD.  Or approximately 229 gel packets.  Shipping is free (zero gel packets).

Is it available in Spain?

No, Wahoo hates Spain – after all, Spain’s Movistar team bested Wahoo sponsored Team Sky in the Tour de France this year.  As a result, no desk for you.

However, Wahoo says that for now the KICKR Desk will only be available in the US while they sort through demand for other markets.

Does the KICKR Desk work with bikes with aerobars?

I assume you skipped the pictures in this review to read the riveting text, right?

How many devices can the KICKR Desk hold?

My current record is 9: 1xLaptop, 2xPhones (Android & iOS), 5xEdge bike computers (4xEdge 520, 1xEdge 810), 1xiPad.  Plus one water bottle.

I don’t believe I’ve reached the maximum allowable devices. Further architectural placement could result in increased devices per desk arrangement.

How many water bottles can the KICKR Desk hold?

The KICKR Desk table-top has dimensions of 28”x14”, or 392 sq. inches.  The average water bottle has a footprint of 8.27 sq in.  As a result, the unit should mathematically hold 47 water bottles in a non-staggered configuration.  Note, if you have chubby water bottles, you’ll need to adjust your capacity estimates accordingly.  You should also re-evaluate why you have chubby water bottles.

Summary:

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It’s funny, over the many years I’ve been on trainers, I’ve never really found a great ‘desk’ solution for the trainer.  Not that I needed a desk per se, but rather, I needed a solid holding system.  In the past I’ve used a simple 4-cup OXO kitchen measuring cup, which clips beautifully on my aerobars to hold a remote control and my phone.  But, that also wasn’t super-scalable.  For example, it couldn’t hold a laptop or a tablet.

All of which the KICKR Desk can hold.  And – it does so really well.  Heck, I’ve even started using the desk when I’m not riding the trainer and just working downstairs in the cave (my regular desk/office is upstairs).  It makes for a perfect work station too.

But, at the end of the day – it’s expensive.  There’s no getting around that.  It’s quite a bit more expensive than I expected it to be (or than more simplistic options for $50).  In talking with Wahoo about that, part of the challenge is that it’s a low-volume item.  And one that’s also a bit trickier to ship and store, being bulkier and more sturdy.  Hopefully they’ll be able to see high-demand for the KICKR Desk, and get the price down.

Because for me, the solution is so much more elegant and cleaner than the stack of random cardboard boxes that I often use.  And I’m guessing – most folks are in a similar boat.

With that – thanks for reading!

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123 Comments

  1. MAGNUS

    I would love this but I definitely don’t see it being worth $230.

  2. Claus Jacobsen

    Ray – we need some more info on that “desk accuracy testing system” of yours. :-) something coming from your desk-sitting life? Other than that it does seem a bit overpriced. even if solid metal tubing is used.

  3. Solar Hobo

    Ray, thank you. I like the conversational way you write, the chubby water bottle comments were funny.

    I am a busy mum and have to find quick solutions to challenges. I’ve been using my child’s spare music stand as a desk for my trainer workouts so I can exercise @ home. It’s made of sturdy black metal and has multiple metal clamps which screw tightly into placed 3-legs fold out (see OnStage Orchestral Music Stand, OSSM7211B @AUD$55). No grooves for caseless iDevices, though with fold-y, bendy cases they are fine. My monster Alienware 15 and 17″ Retina Pro have both sat great.

    Thanks again for the great job you do. Love it and would not have bought my amazing V800 without your work.

  4. Simon

    To what extent could this be used for hanging or drying clothes on? When my bike is in the kickr it makes for a decent clothes horse, and more drying options are always welcome…

  5. Graham

    Interesting product. I could see this being a decent little stand up desk.
    Wondering if the new hand crank ikea one would fit the bill for the trainer now too..

  6. Thomas Irming

    I have made this little trainer solution for my workshop. One piece of MDF board with integrated subwoofer and on the wall a low-tech Powermeter :-)

    • Hogesyx

      The original Cambridge SoundWorks!

    • KingArt

      Just some personal thought. Isn’t it a bit dangerous to ride right next to heavy tools & blades with all the hardware in front of you while you are breaking a sweat? I am sure the shelf is pretty sold tho!

  7. A

    this certainly made me giggle significantly more than it should have given the style of reviewing ;)

    However, for those looking into a dual-use desk that is not bike specific, I found that the Bekant Ergonomi from IKEA works extraordinarily well. It’s a rather basic motorized sit and stand desk with very solid feet that costs about 500$ but is an actual desk, not a desklet like the Wahoo:
    link to ikea.com

  8. I think I’ll stick with my 24.99 music stand.

  9. dbsmith

    Another option:

    I use a Snap-on roll cart (part no. KRP1HD). Added benefits — lots of storage (see photos), polymer so can’t rust. Price is $265 from Snap-on on eBay from time-to-time.

  10. Ian S

    Looks great, but about three times as expensive as I (or I suspect anyone else) would pay.

    • dbsmith

      Well…I paid for it!

      IMO it’s better than the Wahoo thing because it can’t rust and it has multiple uses. I store small bike parts in the top bin and all of my auto/bike cleaning/lube stuff is in the bottom tray. Its big enough and strong enough to put the 40″ tv on it if I wanted to.

      Yes, all Snap-on stuff is priced at the high end of reasonable. But this little cart will last forever and I can (and do) use it for other things when I’m cycling outside.

    • John

      @dbsmith: I think Ian was referring to the Wahoo Desk being 3x what anyone would pay. One thing I really like about your SnapOn solution is the locking wheels. :-)

    • dbmith

      The fact that the top tray cover cantilevers out such that a bike wheel fits underneath, plus the locking wheels, makes it work fine for my purposes.
      Yes, it’s on the expensive side. But it will last forever and has other uses.
      The Wahoo thing is nice because the tray is height-adjustable (the Snap-on cart is not). But it’s pretty expensive for a single-purpose device that can chip and rust. At $150 or so, maybe…
      My 2¢

  11. Charlie

    I think if I were going to get something like this I’d want it to be suitable for a treadmill as well as a bike trainer. And maybe also as an adjustable height sitting/standing desk. Ability to attach a sturdy monitor arm for my 30″ display would also be good. These uses aren’t contradictory are they?

  12. Kevin

    Ray,
    The holes in the grooves for tablets, are they big enough for the wahoo key to be plugged in whilst the tablet is mounted into the groove vertically?

  13. I’m still not 100% sure if this is actually for sale or if it’s an elaborate joke. Bonus points on the “zero offset” phrase usage. But the price isn’t terrible. Sure, it can be done for $50-100 as a DIY thing.

    My biggest problem is that a laptop on the “desk” would block my big fan. I have a small fan down low and a bigger fan that blows straight in front of me. I then put my laptop off to the slide (slightly). The head-on airflow is nice.

  14. Allan P Watkins

    I use an instrument tray as a “holding system”, but I don’t really use my laptop while I’m on the bike except to have Zwift on a screen.

    link to lh3.googleusercontent.com

    I just recently mounted a 32″ TV to the wall in front of the bike. This picture is of the room slightly incomplete, we just moved so I’m still making some minor adjustments but everything is pretty much in it’s final resting place.

    • Steve Fitz

      I like the work desk. It looks like it goes up/down. Power or hand crank? Do they make a less wide product? Who makes it, what model and cost? Thanks,

    • Allan P Watkins

      It’s a Jarvis Bamboo desk, about $700 bucks. Typical cost for most standing desks is around 1000 depending on features you want, this one is pretty basic and just has an electric motor with memory to store 4 positions.

  15. JP

    I am intrigued by the portability and the adjustability. Price-wise, about 150 might be right and could be close to enticing me. I really like that you can have it out front at a height good for in aero, or bring it close over the bars for using while sitting up completely.

  16. SteveT

    Ray,

    This made me laugh! I saw the picture and figured that it was a wahoo KICKR trainer article but I saw the desk and said to myself; “I like that desk I wonder where he got it.”

    I use a 32″ TV set on the top shelf of a stereo component stand.

    Will Clever Training carry it?

    Steve

  17. Dan Lipsher

    Yes, it’s $229, but how much more for the small dog bundle? And is it compatible with Ant+ small dogs or only BTLE?

  18. Patrick Myers

    Fantastic – and funny – review Ray. Thanks.

    I agree with others – $230 is pretty ‘spensive for a desk when lower tech solutions abound. That said, bravo to the Wahoo team – they have solved a lot of problems inherent in such cheaper solutions (moving it, stuff sliding, stuff needing to be propped up).

  19. Hi Ray

    Is this available in the UK? Can’t see it on the UK site: http://uk.wahoofitness.com ?

    Cheers

    Ian

  20. No ANT+ or BLE?!? Pfff, such a disappointing product ;)

  21. EB

    Does it still work if you take it in a tunnel?

  22. kelly

    It would be nice to see the table fold-able(top, bottom), integrated charging system, locking wheels, and tilting trays for the iphone/tablets. Wahoo keep adding features and people might opt for the $230 table instead of the cheap solution they are currently using. I use a $12 plastic shelf system from local hardware store that works perfectly.

  23. Patrick

    Are the holes big enough for both BLE and ANT+ signals to pass through at the same time? Maybe there’s a way to open them up more if not.

  24. Jim

    This thing is pretty much reminds me of an over-bed table but is less versatile as it’s got supports at both ends and has the “wahoo” mark up…

  25. John Bergquist

    It’s pretty…but I think that Wahoo really missed the boat on this one. There are so many other (cheaper) options on the market, that there’s no way this is going to be competitive. Not to mention all the homegrown stuff that we’ve all employed over the years. Sure, they’re not as pretty, but when I can build this out of scrap lumber or a $15 run to Home Depot/Lowes then a one trick pony $230 desk is a “I just won the lottery, what should I spend it on?” item.

  26. Terry T

    This post simply made me smile. Thank you!

  27. OKOK

    Is it compatible with Windows 7?

  28. Chris Bayley

    Thanks for the review! Was looking at it, but think the price is silly. But, put a word into Wahoo that if this desk could also have an integrated front wheel quick release (ditch the wheels) I’d be game!

    CB

  29. Matt H

    Pah, call yourself a man? What’s with the reading of instructions? Next you’ll be saying that you used a map or worse still, asked for directions while out and about!

  30. Ryan

    Wait…..is there a DCR branded water bottle??? Ray how do I buy this?? Please let give you mone! !!

  31. Drew W

    I think it is a brilliant piece of unitasking hardware, but I can’t see any real reason to get it when an adjustable height 4×2 Lifetime table will do the same thing for under $40

    link to amzn.com

    • Michael Lyons

      Thanks for posting what seems to be the best cheap alternative I’ve seen. Everyone has bashed the Wahoo desk but no one actually gave a cheaper reasonably useful adjustable alternative until you. I’ll be giving this a try for sure.

  32. Patrick Brochu

    Hmmmm… No. Just no. Please leave the furniture and accessories to others…

  33. Spokejunky

    It’s intriguing. Would you say it could be used as an ergonomic desk, ie standing and sitting? Along those lines does the back portion of the desk have a platform for a multi monitor clamp? You could rig a cage to hold a mid tower or small form factor pretty easily given the plastic fins underneath.

  34. Scott E

    We could always see just how popular the table is by having a DCR-Wahoo Kickr Desk give-away. I’m game, anyone else in?

    Really, the pictures of the home DIYs justifies a need for an alternative, no offense.

  35. giorgitd

    Somewhere along the line, we wound up with this set of four snack tables that fold up and fit on a stand. Ugly. Cheap. I’m sure (or I sure hope so). Work great to hold the laptop for Zwift. Why would you want a table in front of you, blocking the wind from your giant fan? No fan? Well, you’re not really training, then, right? :)

  36. Tony Z

    Shouldnt the towel loops be towards the front so they are easier to reach while riding.

    • Alfredo

      I just got the desk as part of the bundle. I think Ray misinterpreted the loops use. I think its for cable management. Once you pass a cable from one of the devices through the slanted slots in the desk, instead of it dangling straight down and getting in the way of your hoods or aerobars, you loop it up through the hook and down so it runs parallel to the extendable legs.

  37. Ivan P.

    My first thoughts were: April 1st really is quite a ways away; guess Ray published this one a bit too early…

    But alas, it is real. Looks nice, but I opted for a music stand for a few less bucks. Works great, cheap, and works for now.

    -Ivan

    • Rubén

      Aprils fools is celebrated in Spainon the 28th of December, and taking into account the reference to Spain in the FAQ section I’m still thinking is a great post done by Ray. At least i laughed a lot

  38. Joe

    After the initial sticker shock I checked out IKEA, Office Max/Depot. Looks like the price is comparable to similar computer tables. Just wondering if it’s compatible IOS and android out of the box…

  39. Marc Salvia

    I’m very disappointed if Wahoo don’t ship it to Spain. I was waiting anxiously to have two or three of them, but I understand that sponsorship has its inconveniences… May be someone in US can buy it and sent it to me?

    PD: Yesterday was “Dia de los Inocentes” in Spain (something like April 1st). I hope that this review is just for your spanish readers who are aware of this…

  40. Eric

    It seems that everything is coming earlier than it used to… Christmas begins in November… Easter eggs go on sale after Christmas… April Fools start in the New Year.

  41. Nicholas Frenette

    You can buy a Hospital bed table for much cheaper… ok, it doesn’t have the look but.

  42. Garrett

    I clicked the link to your $50 variant. I couldn’t help but laugh at this and imagine you ringing the bell for “the girl” to bring you another bottle of fluid replacement.

  43. Andrew

    I’m surprised to see you using a wheel block with your kickr…isn’t it made to be used without?

  44. Corri

    I’d get a Forerunner 920xt. I train with a Forerunner 220, Garmin Swim and Edge 500 but I only race with the Edge 500. I want more data from race day.

  45. Matthew

    Go Pro Hero 4, so that I can begin documenting my crazy life and adventures wth some sweet photography!

  46. Matthew

    Oops this too, sorry!

  47. Happy Runner

    All of these comments have missed the #1 takeaway from this review. Why is everything shipped to the bar/restaurant next door?

    • Wouldn’t you rather go to the bar to pickup your packages?

      Actually, all of our shipping goes to the CupCakery, since there are employees there 7 days a week from about 6AM till 7PM, so it makes FedEx easy. However, during the winter, we go down to 5 days a week. So on Monday and Tuesday we’re closed, and thus sometimes FedEx will retry – and sometimes they give it to the bar next door. And every once in a long while, they’ll deliver it to the Metro (subway) maintenance facility across the street.

  48. Bernie

    I really want that USB powered beer can fridge! Alas, the link does only point generally to Amazon. Which one is it? I found one that only works with Coke, but I would prefer beer! :D
    link to amazon.co.uk

  49. Rod

    Did you happen to try using a mouse?
    I was trying to “un-minimize” zwift the other day using a wireless mouse on my side table and had a heck of a time.
    Thanks!

  50. RayB

    I do not know if yours positioning but from the pics I would imagine this would be very uncomfortable after 30 mins or so. i.e. IMO desks do not lend themselves well to still putting all your weight up front like that for typing on a laptop, vs just cycling and having your hands on the top of the drops. Which is why I did this for 50 bucks :), yes it does not give you the same workout as a full on indoor cycling session. But, I do hours at a time on it in comfort and getting a basic low impact workout while stuck “behind a desk”. It has gone through a few versions since this first shot….

    • Yeah, I think the main reason for the desk is really more placement/holding than straight work. You’d have to bring up the height higher to make it work on a bike as high as might.

      That said, I’ve used the desk both as a stand-up desk, and just a regular desk (with bar stool) too for many hours without issues.

  51. Celeste

    Here’s my setup. It’s a music stand (shown with a surface pro 3 tablet). There’s enough room for my remote control and iPhone too. I found it brand new on ebay, for $15.99. It’s surprisingly stable. Much more stable than what I remember using as a kid in high school band. It’s also the conductor style so a bit bigger.

    It’s stable and adjustable enough that if I wanted to use a heavy laptop with it, I could just make it flat instead of upright, and tighten up the hinge. And, the height is adjustable.

    Before this, I tried two handle-bar style holders–one for the iPhone ($20) and one for the computer ($30). They sucked. I’m returning them.

  52. Lennart

    For that price I expect the ultimate trainer desk. Why is there not usb ports integrated, so i just plug the table in the wall? Why are the towel hooks on the wrong side of the table, why are there no integrated water bottle holders or at least some bosses so i can screw on my on water bottle cages? I know i can put it on top, but still… why no garmin mounts, so i can change he location of my garmin, so its easier to keep track when watching a movie. or a hook for a camelback? Why no options to add a fan, or just build in a fan. So many ways to make this thing better, for that price, it needs to be the ultimate option for indoor trainingl

    • Marek

      Agree with you. At least the bottle holders seem like a no-brainer, but I have to say, I am considering it anyway. It’s not cheap, but I to me the portability might be worth it – I’d use it for both work and working out.

      In the spirit of other cool features to consider, check this out: link to cavecompetitor.com
      – Cold pan to keep your drinks cold
      – Service post for repairs
      – Pre-drilled holes for your monitor
      – Device holder, and other…

      All that for ‘only’ $600 if you want the whole set ;) I saw this product at a pre-race expo and loved it. Feels very sturdy and well made, but at this price it’s a no-go for me.

      It’s a good thing that Wahoo is getting into this in my opinion. Might drive some interest for such products and generate additional demand, which will drive prices down over time and hopefully generate some innovation.

  53. Jim

    Just came back here to check on the latest comments. Im not interested in the desk as I want everything well away from me during a sweat session on the rollers. Having said that, I would be interested in hearing of success in bluetooth pointers/mice or other remote devices to allow me to control my laptop which is a few meters in front of me. Requirements:

    – some form of IPX rating (aforementioned sweat)
    – ability to clip or hang from handlebars
    – controllable with one hand, and without a flat surface (so standard bluetooth mouse not an option)
    – easy to use/accurate so I dont have to stop
    – works on Mac OSX

    Ideas appreciated..

    thanks
    jim

    • Larry

      If you can mount a smartphone on your handlebars, there are remote control apps which can either be used as a mouse & keyboard. Some also have specialized layouts to handle various applications. You can sweat-proof by laying a piece of kitchen plastic wrap over the phone. It will still pick up your finger gestures through the plastic. Several years ago I tried using the Android app “Unified Remote” to shortcut various settings in PerfPRO. Ultimately it didn’t work because of how PerfPRO wrote the app on the Windows side as Unified Remote worked with everything else I tried (I wanted a remote control layout rather than mouse emulation). There are dozens of similar apps on Android and there must be a bunch on iOS as well.

  54. DaveO

    I’d order this right now if:
    1) It wasn’t $200+ Really Wahoo? What are you thinking?
    2) If the towel holes were on the FRONT.. ??

    My “Lifetime” table from Sam’s Club will do just fine for now.

  55. Larry

    For the first season with my KICKR I used an old, wobbly table I’d roll up which would always interfere with the tire position. Always felt my computer was a half step from falling to to ground. So I started thinking about building a fork-based stand so the tire wouldn’t be in the way any longer. The initial thought was it might be extended to become a stand/table itself. The project was minimally thought out in advance, and kinda just evolved as more of it got built. I’m not a fine woodworker; just a wood hacker with a table saw. So this is what I created out of many pieces of scrap wood around the basement plus other parts and additional wood & hardware. Probably about $100-$120 of material all together. For some more picture go to: link to s270.photobucket.com

    • Steve

      Larry: Great idea from the photos to zip tie the KICKR’s power brick to the support legs!

    • Andy

      I realise that I’m coming to this a long time after the event, but I just wanted to say I think that this is brilliant Larry.

      Far better designed and put together in my opinion than the Kickr version and reminiscent of the short of sh!t I try to make in my garage. You’ve inspired me to go and spend the afternoon knocking something together for my own personal pain cave.

      (Pictures may follow).

  56. Steve

    Ray:

    1) Does Wahoo’s official KICKR training mat fit inside the rolling legs? The height of a rubber mat would certainly challenge zero-offsetting and rolling action.

    2) Interesting you use a front wheel pad with the KICKR. Does that raise the bike out of level?

    3) Would the electronic device slots generally work with device cases? Or just basically wide enough for naked phones/tablets?

    • 1) Hmm, I don’t have an official mat to be able to validate that. :(

      2) You can do it either way, it’s just something I’ve always done but doesn’t bother me much to use a slight increase.

      3) No, generally not – it’s pretty slim.

    • Steve

      Ray: The Wahoo KICKR mat is 36″ wide. Does that help?

      Sorry- I wasn’t able to measure it before when I originally posted!

    • All good then, just measured the desk and at the base it’s 71cm (28″) wide. Enjoy!

  57. andrew

    Hi Ray,

    What’s its shipping weight – so I can figure out what the drop ship cost abroad would be?

    Thanks

    Andrew

  58. Joe

    Love the desk overall but mine is defective and the pole wont line up for the blue button to sit flush so it is always pushed in and at lowest position– quite annoying. Working it out with Wahoo, hope Ill get a replacement……

    • Charles Nicholas

      I had the same problem assembling the desk. On inspection found one of the plastic tabs on the plastic insert that fits in the right side of the desk top (where the right leg inserts) was misaligned. Popped it off with a screw driver and the leg then fit fit flush In the insert and the blue button popped into place. However, it would only still align properly only if the legs were inserted in the desk top before they were attached to the base. The whole thing is not very precisely manufactured and the the height adjustment “buttons” are a little short and do not hold very securely, so I’m a little concerned one of the legs might slip down under load. Once assembled, it works well. The concept and design are good, but I’d pay a little more for better quality fittings and sturdier construction.

    • Joe

      Hmmmmm I can’t visualize which part you pried out. Did you pry it out from the top or bottom of the desk

    • Charles Nicholas

      Take a flashlight and look into the bottom of the insertion point on the desk top. You will see there is a plastic insert wit 4 small plastic tabs. Those tabs are supposed to fit around the upper end of the leg below the blue button on the top of the leg. On mine the back tab on the right side was twisted and protruded into the opening where the top of the leg inserts. I broke that tab off with the tip of a screw driver and the leg went in and the blue button popped up. It seems just as tight and secure as the fitting on the other side. I imagine they can send you a replacement plastic insert, but in my case the “fix” I tried seemed an adequate solution.

  59. Steve H

    Recently bought the “pain cave” bundle from Wahoo which included the desk and mat along with the Kickr. It was only a $150 upcharge to get both desk and mat, so I felt it was worth it.

  60. Ransom

    What is the inner base width and max height under? I see 28″ wide and 48″ high and I expect those are the outer and top dimensions. I have a small-ish treadmill that is exactly 24″ wide and a hair under 47″ tall (and could be an inch or two lower with some hackery). It would be a big bonus to use it with that as well as my KICKR. 2″ diameter tubing on the base? (28 – 2 – 2 = 24). Looks bigger than the KICKR tubing which is 1.5″

    You’d think Ikea or amazon would have a high/adjustable desk that fit this but I can’t find anything that looks right.

  61. Jeffrey Montague

    You are funny …. I like that?
    Nice review..

  62. Andy Watson

    Excellent product with only a hefty price premium for mere mortals after spending a ton on the Kickr Snap. I built one of these, cost me under £25 ($35). Upgrade for cable management as mine has 360 degree over-the-edge access for cables to drop over. If I had a router (the tool not internet portal) I’d make grooves to stand my iPad also!! Fixed height (but so are my bikes!) and eco friendly wood. Jobs a good’un. Great review again Ray.

  63. Robert

    Ray,

    You mentioned that the desk could support some weight….do you think it would hold up a 40lb window air conditioner? It would be great as multi-purpose to support the ac against my tent window on hot-weather camping trips. 33″ high (lowest setting) would be perfect.
    Thanks !

  64. David E.

    Hey, does anybody know if the channel on the desk that accommodates smartphones would work with an ANT+ key plugged into the phone? I need an ANT+ key in my iPhone to link my ANT+ power meter to my Kickr. Thanks!

  65. Phil A

    You may want to update your page and add the link to Clever Training, since they are carrying it now.

    link to clevertraining.com

  66. MartinR

    At what height are you using your Wahoo Desk, Ray? Are you using it at its max height, cca. 122cm or 48 inches? Thanks!

  67. MartinR

    I am thinking about possibility of using a bike workstand as a notebook stand/a desk for indoor sessions. However, I will need some kind of “laptop” tray to be clamped in the stand. Any ideas or suggestions?
    Thank you!

  68. Jesper Nygaard

    Late to the party, just discovered this.

    Anyone know where you can get this in the EU??? All my normal bike(parts) pusher, does not carry it.

  69. Phil A

    Could not tell, how much room was between bars and stand. I have one of the Cycleops climbing blocks and was not sure if the bike would fit. Any ideas if you can use that block with this stand?

  70. Joe

    While I love my desk overall, and have used it probably 100 times while training so far, the rubber top of the table is starting to degrade and do that sticky, breaking down rubber kind where it starts to turn almost gooey in places. Anyone else’s table having issues with rubber breakdown? Mine has not been exposed to anything harsher than the occasional splash of water from a cup.

  71. richard

    link to amazon.com

    the wahoo adjustable stand is functional, but the price is, STILL in 2017, difficult to understand. the url is for a stand that is .3 the price and close to wahoo specs–must add the non-slip surface.

  72. Clayton Bigsby

    I bought one with my Direto trainer from CT during the 20% off sale ….Just put the desk together today and have been using it as a standing desk all day … It’s very well made and sweet using my iPad, & iPhone
    ..overpriced….?
    Well maybe somewhat, but that’s not my overriding thought…. versatile probably is…..a solid purpose built standing desk that I can wheel around my apartment to work in front of a window or kitchen to multitask while cooking…so far done all that ….except ride my bike while using it…so in a sense, the best is yet to come…

    One caution is not to torque the hell out of the screws connecting the upright legs to the base at first…..get the top on and screws started ….if it can “float” a little that will make it easier to line stuff up……I cranked on them first and the index pin in one leg wouldn’t line up……or hold firm if with the top on…. after backtracking and loosening, it all worked smoothly. It’s very solid.
    I’m happy.

  73. David

    Lots of alternates out there, here’s my Amazon solution. Very solid, and a lower tray too for that coffee moment. Lots of height extension and top tilts if that’s what you want. link to amazon.com