Wahoo Fitness KICKR now (sorta) available for pre-order

Today, Wahoo Fitness announced pre-orders for the Wahoo KICKR trainer will begin on January 29th at 12PM Eastern.  This is obviously a fair bit behind the planned schedule of pre-orders in November. The first shipment was confirmed loaded onto the boat last Friday afternoon Taiwan-time.  From a timeline standpoint, the boat first motors across the ocean (which is occurring at the moment), then there is customs clearance in LA, then arrival into a distribution center, and then finally, shipment to your house.  It’s that last part that’s actually the quickest (UPS/FedEx/etc…).  Ultimately, they believe they can have units start hitting your house by March 4th.  They are filling and shipping multiple containers, with each one hosting about 200-300 units.


As previously announced way back in early fall, the units were set for $999US.  However, upon today’s announcement the price has now increased to $1,099.  Clearly, this sucks for you and me as the consumer.  From a competitive standpoint however, I’m not sure it dramatically changes the landscape.  It does make the Tacx Bushido slightly more appealing (due to the larger price gap), but, the rest of the competitors right now are generally $100-500 above KICKR still.  Note that some retail outlets (I’ve heard from a handful of you) did start accepting pre-orders.  I’ve talked to both some of these retailers and Wahoo on this and have heard conflicting things.  It would be up to those retail outlets as to how to sort out any price discrepancy.

I recently posted a slew of unboxing photos to this post here, if you’d like to dig into that ahead of time.

(Note: What follows is not meant to be a review, but rather, just to help you decide whether or not you feel a KICKR pre-order makes sense for you)

Since then, I’ve been using it for some of my trainer workouts – getting the lay of the land.  At present, I don’t plan on putting together a full review until a few more 3rd party applications are onboard with functional apps – likely towards the end of February.  Many of those developers all received KICKR units at the conclusion of CES 2013 earlier this month.  I have however tested it with Trainer Road, Kinomap, and the default Wahoo Fitness app along with the Wahoo Fitness Segments (Strava emulator) app.  The Segments app doesn’t have a defined availability date as they are working out things with Strava still.

In my testing, I’ve found accuracy very solid across a few different power meters I’ve been testing lately.  Below is a graph put together, comparing accuracy of the KICKR with that of the Quarq Cinqo crank-based power meter from one of my recent trainer rides.  Note that this particular beta firmware version did not have temperature compensation factored into the ride mid-ride (I did it manually pre-ride).   This data was recorded via ANT+ (on an Edge 510 and Edge 810).  The below is smoothed at 10s.  They are showing measured watts by each power meter, not set-resistance levels.

In the above, I was just doing some simple tests.  Set wattage levels (i.e. 100w) starting with a 5 minute warm-up, and then at 150w in 10w increments up to 250 and back down in 25w steps.  Then I did four 30-second sprints in 1% incline mode.  Following which, simply setting it for 100w as a cool-down for a few minutes.   Obviously, you can see some drift in the last few minutes.  It’s unclear whether that’s the result of the Quarq or KICKR drifting.  In this particular test I didn’t do a post-test temp check on KICKR.  Pre-ride on KICKR I did a roll-down test and offset.  On the Quarq, pre-ride a manual calibration.  The dip you see at roughly 176s was simply the result of me hitting the wrong button and removing resistance accidently.

Again, I wouldn’t overanalyze the above too much – it’s just a beta firmware drop.  Like most beta firmware drops that I get, they usually come fast and frequent (sometimes daily), with iterations quickly to address any outstanding bugs.

Riding-wise (since a lot of folks ask), it…well..feels like a trainer.  No, it doesn’t have the road smoothness of the LeMond Revolution, but it also has more finesse than the CompuTrainer when it comes to load application (i.e. how it feels when changing resistance).

From a parts standpoint, the thing is a beast.  I never had a chance to pick it up physically at previous shows – so it wasn’t until I dragged one across the world did I realize how darn heavy it is.  But that heaviness comes from the materials used and the build.  There simply isn’t plastic in any of the critical wear parts.  It’s built a bit like a rock.

The unit weighed in at 46 pounds (about 21kg).  To put that in perspective, the CompuTrainer weighed in at 22 pounds, and the Tacx Genius at 25 pounds  (as per me weighing them all a moment ago).

Connectivity-wise it’s got both Bluetooth Smart as well as ANT+ in it.  But today, the ANT+ side can only be used to transmit the power to nearby ANT+ devices (such as your Edge 500) – but can’t be used to control the unit.  The ability to control over ANT+ is coming, but it’s not there yet today as the ANT+ device profile for that functionality isn’t finalized yet.  All control happens via BT Smart.

So what are the downsides?  Well, they’re fairly few and far between from what I’ve seen thus far (aside from availability).  But most of them center around the application side.

First, you’ve gotta have a Bluetooth 4.0 capable device to control it without any 3rd party software.  That means an iPhone 4S or iPhone 5, or one of the later iPads (3rd/4th gen).  Within the 3rd party world, to control it you’d need either Trainer Road (on a Mac, PC drivers aren’t yet there for the BLE side), or – upcoming Golden Cheetah.  The Golden Cheetah folks are working overtime to get the PC side down as quickly as possible – recognizing the gap there.

Second, there isn’t a handlebar control unit for resistance. You’ve gotta use your phone to control resistance (or, a 3rd party app with a keyboard).  Over the last few weeks I’ve done workouts where things have gotten pretty sweaty.  For the most part, the phone responds to my sweatiness and does what I want (changing resistance), but I’ve definitely had a couple cases where my fingers were just too wet to get valid/accurate responses from the phone.  As noted, if you’ve got an app controlling resistance for you (say a course or workout), it’s a bit of a moot point.  But if you’re just controlling resistance manually you may want to invest in a simple cheap running armband for it, as it tends to ensure sweat doesn’t actually get on the screen itself.

Lastly, as I previously noted around sound decibel levels, it’s on par with other units.  You can see this in the video below I put together.  However, it does have a slightly higher pitched sound.  Very slightly.  It hasn’t been bothersome to either me or The Girl (who’s also used the trainer) – but it might be to some.  We’re still able to watch TV just fine, so I suppose that’s all that matters to me.  You can hear it below and decide for yourself.

Finally, there’s virtually no support on the Android side today.  That will change – no doubt, as an app is already being worked on from Wahoo (I showed screenshots of it mid-way here in this post) – but if you don’t have an iDevice, it’s a bit limiting (unless you’re using a 3rd party app, some of which are free of course).

Make sense?  Good.

You can always check out the trainer comparison table to look at all the features for trainers out there.

And my previous post from August has just about every other technical KICKR question answered on it – so also worth checking out too until a full review is posted.  But I’m always happy to answer questions here too.

P.S. – For those of you waiting on the CycleOps Virtual Training review – I had a really good chat with the CycleOps power team last night, including hashing through some of the concerns many have you have noted.  I’ll release that next week.

P.P.S. – For those of you waiting on the Tacx Genius trainer review – they are sending me out a new brake unit (basically a new trainer), after some issues I’m having on the current unit following the most recent software release have cropped up.  I’m also talking to them about some of the concerns that many of you have e-mailed me about.

P.P.P.S – For those of you waiting on something else…I’m trying…only so many hours in the night. 🙁

Like any other unit that you want to buy in the sports technology world, if you want to support the site you can utilize this link from Clever Training to do so.  In doing so, you’ll get 10% off your pre-order (you can do the math), and free shipping for US orders.  Just be sure to apply coupon code DCR10BTF at checkout.  Simple, ehh?  Note that if a gazillion of you order KICKR’s, not all of you will get in the first shipment.  I’ve been told they’ll adjust the ‘expected’ date accordingly based on orders and the quantity they have coming in.

As always – thanks for reading – and supporting the site!

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View Comments (85)

  • Ray,

    Can you adjust the zero offset manually so that your crank based power meter and the KICKR are approximately the same (e.g. manual calibration)? I use a Quarq and when I am doing workouts I want the set power to approximate my Quarq because when I go outside I will only be using the Quarq.


    • You can do zero offsets within the KICKR (at least, today, within the little beta utility app, unclear if that will be made public).

      However, keep in mind that zero offsets vary from PM vendor to vendor. Meaning, if I put in the same value from my Quarq into the PowerTap, or my PowerTap into my Stages, etc... - it'll be all dorked up (way bad).

      What you want to ensure is that the zero offsets are consistent within each unit type.

  • I came across something interesting today:


    This is a virtual trainer ride. We can tell because (1) there was a foot of snow on the ground that day and (2) the cyclist titled it "virtual trainer." I don't know the cyclist, I came across the ride because she beat a couple of my KOMs.

    What is interesting is that the trainer apparently fed not only power, speed, and cadence data to the Strava iphone app (via Bluetooth or an ANT+ dongle), but also GPS track data. That means there may be literally no way to distinguish a virtual trainer ride from an actual ride, based only on the data sets.

    If so, this will certainly knock Strava for a loop!

  • have you ever had the chance to sit on a airstreeem trainer? If not, give it a try...
    the biggest pro is the noise... very good hardware precise and accurate power levels. "unfortunatly" very crappy software. i use it with a powermeter crank Ant+ and univet software. so i am not dependent to use the airstreeem Head Unit to connect via USB to software... http://www.univetsystem.com

    • KT and Ray,

      We should have the firmware done in the next week but it might take a couple weeks to test and get integrated into software.

  • Ray and W Murray,

    Just confirming that an ipod touch 5th gen w/ ANT+ key will work for an initial setup (while waiting for ANT+ PC control)? That is, you can use BT smart (to control Kickr) and ANT+ (for cadence/power data back to ipod) at the same time. Thanks, guys.

  • Ray,

    Thanks for the great pre-review. If you have time Is there anyway you could post the decibel level of a computrainer? I know that another gentlemen said it was quieter, but I like to get as many opinions as possible. Even if you don't do the official test, if you could even just let me know what you think. Thanks for all the great info you provide.

  • Saw this trainer yesterday at the Toronto Bike Show at the CNE. Got to ride on it. Very smooth. Very solid feeling. I am on his list to get one when they come in as long as my research says its right to pull the trigger on the purchase. I want virtual reality indoor cycling on a big screen. I find it hard to believe my iPhone 5 will provide that, so I think it will have to be Windows. All info I can find seems vague at best. Where might I find some info? Is there anyone working on something that might hit the streets near the time the Kickr does? Is there a wahoo forum?



    • I have my in-depth review publishing tomorrow (Tuesday). I think that'll answer everything. Including a preview/look at every 3rd party software suite available for the KICKR today.

    • Hi Jan-

      I just tested the link, and then added the coupon code and it took the 10% off (shown further down). I assume when you typed in the code, you put the last digit as a 'zero', right?

      Thanks for the support!

    • That's odd, let me check real quick. I know it was working earlier today.

      Btw, units came in today, so any orders made today get shipped out tomorrow...

  • Any idea on when the Multiplayer software will be out? I am trying to decide weather to purchase this or a Tacx Genius Multiplayer trainer. Any info would be great!

    • Multiplayer isn't coming from Wahoo, but instead TrainerRoad has long talked about it. PerfPro does it today though.

  • hi

    I have some issues with the calibration. When I start even when I did a calibration, let's say yesterday and I did not move it, the next day I alwyas have issues.

    When I start I notice that the power is really fluctuating. It cannot hold it.

    After 10min I can do a successful calibration but sometimes It still comes back.

    Any idea what I have to do?


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