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GoPro Hero6 Black In-Depth Review

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Today GoPro announced their latest action cam – the GoPro Hero6 Black.  While it may look the same from the outside, it’s packed with tons of huge changes on the inside.  Some of those changes are headliner options like 4K at 60FPS (frames per second), or 1080P at 240FPS.  While many of the changes are under the covers at the image processing level, they dramatically change the image quality of both photos and videos.

I’ve been testing the Hero6 Black for a bit now, giving me a good grasp of how well the cameras work, both the good and the bad.  As always, once I’m done with these two loaner cameras I’ll ship them back to GoPro.  You can hit up the links at the bottom if you found the review useful – I appreciate it!

What’s new:

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I suspect some folks will look at the Hero6 Black and see that it physically looks virtually indistinguishable from the Hero5 Black, and assume that the insides are also similar.  This couldn’t be further from the truth.

Further, some will look at top-line stats like 4K60 resolution, and then assume the rest is marketing speak.  In reality, I’d actually argue the opposite.  After using a unit for a few weeks, it’s clear that the lesser mentioned features like low-light performance and dynamic range are actually the real winners here.

To cover everything new in one tidy video, I’ve got this awesome-sauce (if I do say so) compilation I made.  From features to sample footage, it’s all here:

If text and photos are more your thing, then here’s here’s my listing of what I’d consider to be the key new features:

1) New 4K at 60FPS: Previously the Hero5 Black was limited to 30 frames per second.
2) Image Stabilization at 4K: Previously this was limited to 2.7K, though you still can’t do 4K/60.
3) New 1080p at 240: This is a significant bump from previous 720p at 240FPS, which is used in slow-mo.
4) New GoPro GP1 Chipset: This in-house chipset for image processing replaces Ambarella, which GoPro and many others have used for years.
5) Better low-light performance: This is probably what I’d consider the two biggest items on the camera. It’s mind-boggling.  Also, they increased long exposure to 10-seconds from 2-seconds.
6) Better dynamic range with lighting conditions: Like low-light performance, the speed and clarity here is astounding. Check out my comparison video below to see what I mean.
7) Better image stabilization: 3-Axis image correction in all angles, most notably the roll axis in wide shots (previously it didn’t correct for roll axis in wide).
8) New zoom slider option: You can zoom 0-100% within the image to a custom framing. This essentially gives you tons of flexibility compared to existing narrow/medium crops.
9) New HDR Photo Capture: While previously there was WDR, this is actually a 3-image compilation.
10) Dual 2.4Ghz/5Ghz for downloads: This dramatically speeds up downloads for larger files over 5Ghz, GoPro says this will double speeds, and that seems valid in my case.
11) Changed file formats: For 4K60 and 1080p240, they’ll now use H.265 HEVC file formats, which halves the file space requirement. It also introduces some compatibility issues though (I’ll cover later).
12) Slightly improved voice control: You can now turn on the camera entirely via voice, previously you had to power it on manually.
13) All mounts/cases stay the same: While not new, it’s definitely notable. Mounts, batteries, cases, etc… are all identical to Hero5 Black.
14) Increased camera algorithms: The camera can now detect faces, though it doesn’t expose that yet. It’s used by Quik for processing afterwards.
15) Much faster touch screen: Simply put it’s faster.  It responds to commands faster, both in camera mode as well as gallery mode.

Phew!

And actually, there’s still a bunch of really tiny stuff I’m probably forgetting, but these are the biggies that stick out at me.  You’ve still got all the existing items from the previous generation, like ProTune for higher bitrate videos and more control over the image, as well as manual audio channel control.

As I noted above – I think the two biggest items are low light performance and general dynamic range increases, with the new 4K60 mode and 4K30 image stabilization being a close 3rd and 4th.  The dynamic range is apparent in both videos and photos, as you’ll see in some of the examples below.

So with that – let’s back up a bit and unbox the unit.

Unboxing:

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It seems only appropriate that for a video camera, that I have a video unboxing. This allows me to tell ya all sorta of vaguely related things at the same time as I dismantle the box in a less than graceful manner.  Also, I’ve got a ton of size and weight comparisons in there:

But no worries, let’s say you want a full unboxing review experience, that continues below…with the box:

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Then we’ve got everything in the box atop the table:

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After we pull the parts out you’ll find the Hero6 Black attached to a plastic plate.  Pro Tip: This plastic plate is actually meant to be kept like a mini-tripod of sorts.

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The box includes two sticky mounts – one for a flat surface, and one for a curved surface.  You’ll likely want more of these down the road.  Fear not, you can find giant bundles of these on Amazon for a couple bucks.

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Then there’s the mini-manual, stickers, and legal docs:

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After that, we’ve got the USB-C charging cable.  Fear not, it’s only USB-C on the camera side, whereas the other side is regular USB.

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And then of course – the camera itself, alongside the battery.  The battery is identical to that of the Hero5 Black, and is totally interchangeable.

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Note above that the battery goes into the battery compartment via the waterproof door on the bottom, it’s the same place the Micro-SD card goes.  While on the side you’ll find the USB-C charging port alongside the HDMI port.  These are protected by a small removable waterproof door.  Said door is removed when you use it with the GoPro Karma Grip/Drone.  It’s also incredibly overpriced at $20 if you misplace it (which you will, at the worst possible time).

With that, we’ve got everything in the box.  Remember that the camera came in the mounting frame (seen up above on the little plastic stand), and you’ll need that anytime you want to mount the camera.

The Basics:

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Now before we dive into things like the video and photo quality, I want to very briefly cover some basics.  First up is that the Hero6 Black is waterproof to 10m/33ft without any additional housing.  As long as you’ve got your battery compartment and charging door closed, you’re good to go.

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Speaking of which, that little charging door detaches and is easily lost if you use the gimbal a lot (which requires taking it off) at the worst possible time (usually on vacation on some tropical island).  I’d highly recommend buying a replacement door and stashing it in your suitcase in some random pocket just in case something happens.  That way your GoPro is still waterproof.

Next, we’ve got the touchscreen on the back.  This allows you to preview what the camera is pointed at, as well as interact with the menus.

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The touchscreen is also waterproof of course, but doesn’t work well in the water.  For that, you’ll want to use the manual buttons to change any settings.  There’s one button atop the camera that starts/stops recording (or takes a photo), and another on the side to change modes and create a highlight.

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The touchscreen also allows you to review photos and videos you’ve taken right on the spot.

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The Hero6 Black does bring with it the voice commands of the Hero5 series, while also adding in the ability to turn on the camera via voice.  As long as it was turned on at some point in the last 8 hours, it’ll wake up automatically.  GoPro says this will only impact battery life about 3-5 minutes at most.

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From a battery standpoint, there hasn’t been much change in battery time with the Hero6 Black over the Hero5 Black.  It’s all about the same, which means shooting at the max of 4K60 you’ll get about an hour, whereas shooting at 1080p/30 (a lower baseline), you’ll be clocking in over 2 hours.  The good news is the batteries are the same as the Hero5 Black, which also means 3rd party batteries are the same.  I’ve tested these 3rd party batteries in the Hero6 Black with no issues, and they’re a heck of a lot cheaper.

From a mount standpoint, the camera will generally be used in that black frame case that came with it.  That allows it, in turn, to mount to any GoPro compatible mount (of which there are thousands).  It could be a mini-tripod or a helmet mount, or some other crazy contraption.  It’s kinda the cool part about the GoPro mount system – tons of creativity in what people have come up with.

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So, with those super quick basics out of the way, let’s talk about some tech details.

Video & Audio Details:

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First up, we’ll start with the video side of the house, given it’s a video camera and all.  The first thing to note is the resolution and frame rate changes we’ve got to work with.  With the Hero6 Black you’ve now got up to 4K 60FPS, whereas that was previously limited to 4K 30FPS in the past.  Of course, that’s the header item, but the real interesting item is what’s happening below that key resolution.

For example, GoPro introduced electronic image stabilization within the Hero5 last year, but that was limited to 2.7K – so you couldn’t take advantage of that at 4K.  That changes with the Hero6 Black, which supports image stabilization up to 4K30, and even 2.7K is up to 120FPS now.

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Note that video stabilization is still electronic based, and not optical stabilization like on Sony’s latest action cam.  That said, I did a bit of a comparison of 4K stabilization options across four major cameras: GoPro Hero6 Black, GoPro Hero5 Black, Sony XDR-F3000, Yi 4K+, and the Garmin VIRB Ultra 30.  I repeated a test over a short mountain bike segment, comparing each one to the GoPro Hero6 Black side by side.  This allows you to check out not only stabilization, but color and dynamic range across a tricky environment:

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Much of these image processing changes on the Hero6 black are ushered in by GoPro’s new GP1 chipset.

And even the image stabilization itself is now improved.  GoPro says this is largely due to the new GP1 image processing chipset.  They developed this chipset in-house, to replace the Ambarella chipsets they and other camera manufacturers have used for years.  GoPro says the main reason they shifted to an in-house developed chip was that it would give them a competitive edge.  Versus previously if you looked at past cameras the core image processing chipset would soon be used by competitors.  For example, the GoPro Hero5 Black was on virtually the same chipset as the Garmin VIRB Ultra 30.

Of course, some of that’s also marketing and likely a desire to save costs.  There were certainly newer and better chips that GoPro could have taken advantage of from Ambarella at the time of the Hero5 launch, as well as now the Hero6 launch.

Either way, the results are actually impressive, and it’s resulted in a number of improvements I outlined above.  The two biggest visible improvements would be better low-light support and better dynamic range, both of which are easily seen in my overview video above.  The best way to explain these is that you get better exposure in both bright and dark conditions, as well as faster exposure.  So for example when mountain biking through trees on a sunny day the camera reacts very quickly to lighting changes so you don’t end-up with image blow-outs.

With the shift to 4K60 as well as 1080p240 (which provides super smooth slow motion capabilities), GoPro has also moved file formats to H.265/HEVC.  The HEVC is the format that Apple uses when recording photos/videos these days on iOS11, and is designed to reduce the file size by approximately half while retaining the same image quality.  On the GoPro Hero6, only a portion of the video modes use this file format, they are:

HEVC Modes: 4K60, 4K(4:3)30, 4K(4:3)24, 1080p240, 2.7K120, 2.7K(4:3)60

Whereas all other modes use the existing H.264, as that’s more widely compatible.  And in fact, there are a bunch of caveats to be aware of with H.265, mostly around compatibility.

For example, when GoPro’s main smartphone app automatically transfers footage to your phone when within range of the camera, it won’t do so for H.265 footage.  That you’ll have to transfer manually.  Further, for H.265 footage you can’t preview it from the camera, you have to transfer it first.  And finally, older operating systems and apps won’t support it.  Even as of today, September 28th, 2017, the video editing giant that is Final Cut Pro X doesn’t support it.  So you have to spend considerable time converting all your clips first, which makes puppies die.

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One of those new modes is 1080p240, which enables you to really slow down the footage you capture in high-speed situations.  Previously GoPro only offered 1080p120, or 720p240.  There’s a massive difference in quality between the 720p and 1080p at 240FPS.  It looks spectacular on the Hero6.  You can check out some sample footage I did with exploding water balloons within the main video up above (about mid-way through).

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Next, the Hero6 Black allows you to use a small zoom slider to zoom in on the image within certain modes.  This gives you more flexibility than the typical Medium/Narrow crop options, since you can use the slider anywhere between 0% and 100%.  Note that it’s not available on all modes, like 4K60 or 1080P240.

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Finally, like in the past, you’ve still got ProTune mode for making changes to the camera settings (like exposure and color profile) on the camera itself, as well as giving you more flexibility later in post-production.  That also goes the same for audio flexibility with the three microphones that are on the GoPro Hero6 Black as well, enabling you to record individual mics if you’d like, or have it do automatic wind reduction for you.

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All in all, things are pretty impressive on the video front.  As I said in the video – it’ll be easy for folks to get focused on 4K60, but that’s not really the star of the show here.  It’s how well it performs in lower-light conditions as well as the clarity and dynamic range that’s the real winner.

That said, the HEVC file format will likely be a stumbling block in the short term, at least until app and platform compatibility catches up with it.

Next, a quick chat on audio.  The Hero6 Black, like the Hero5 Black has three microphones on it. These microphones are arranged in a manner that allows them to do wind cancellation by using the microphone not hit by the wind.  Most of the times it works, but not all the times.

What’s cool though is that you can enable individual track recording via ProTune, so that each of the microphones is recorded individually to the MicroSD card, alongside your video.  This gives you ultimate control in post-production (albeit, an ultimate headache to deal with).  Still, the option is there.

While GoPro says audio quality is improved over the Hero5 Black, it sounds pretty similar to me.  I suspect what they’re saying is that there are various edge cases that the Hero6 Black has improved upon.  A few items here, a few items there.  Nothing wrong with that, but I don’t see wholesale improvements across the board.

To demonstrate the audio quality, here’s some sample footage that’s straight out of camera:

As you can see (err…hear), the audio quality depends a bit on the situation, but also really more on whether or not it’s in the frame case.  The frame case definitely hurts audio quality in most situations, but certainly not all.  You can see in the running portions it actually sounded pretty darn good, whereas at other times with secondary noises (like the last audio clip), it reverberated the sound a bit, making it sound worse.

Ultimately, if you learn where the mics do well and not well, you can get pretty OK quality from it (like, Pro Tip: Don’t touch the mics with your fingers while holding it and talking).  At the same time, the reality is that a waterproof camera will have lesser quality from an audio standpoint because more protections have to be put in place than a non-waterproof camera.  If you’re looking to use it to vlog or other speaking-focused thing, I’d encourage you to look at other options (it’s why 100% of top vloggers use dedicated mics).

But, if you just want to capture the moment and not fuss about perfect audio quality – it does a pretty darn good job.

Photo Details:

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Next, we’ve got photos, where an action cam is one of the main ways I take photos during workouts.  Within the Hero6 Black you’ve got all the same modes you had in the past, so things like burst mode, time-lapse mode (both photo and video), as well as the ability to control photo exposure via ProTune.

But you’ve also got some new stuff.  Most notably a new HDR mode, which is different than the WDR mode in the past.  HDR works much like that on other cameras/phones in that it takes multiple frames with varying exposures at once and combines them together into a single photo.

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The result is a photo that in some cases could have much better visibility in the shadows, and not be as overblown in the highlights.  Take for example this comparison left and right.  The one on the left is regular, versus the one on the right is HDR.

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You’ll notice the ground on the non-HDR one is underexposed, whereas on the HDR you see everything.

Here’s another example, this time with me in the frame (left regular, right HDR):

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The concern you sometimes have with HDR though is things end up looking ‘fake’, with too much saturation or contrast.  And that can certainly happen here.  But I find it’s less work to take an HDR photo and fix some things on my phone (reduce contrast/saturation), then it is to do the opposite (fix lack of detail in shadows or overblown areas).

The next thing you’ll notice on photos is just how brilliant they are (non-HDR).  Much of that comes from the new GoPro GP1 chip, which has far better dynamic range and coloring.  Check out this shot I took – totally unedited, straight out of camera (non-HDR):

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It’s just brilliant.  Shooting the desert is always tough, especially later in the day.  This came out fantastic.

Next, note that the new zoom option applies to photos as well.  This allows you to simply move the slider up/down to get just the right shot without having to change framing or moving the camera.  Here’s two side by side shots, one taken zoomed in, and one at full wide:

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For fun, here’s a small gallery of photos I took, all of which are non-HDR, straight out of the camera.

Lastly, one item worthwhile noting is that you can now specify the exposure in photos up to 30 seconds long.  This allows you to get legit night scenes (albeit probably not with action).  This feature also carries through to the time-lapse mode as well, so you can use it in conjunction with that.  Further, you’ve still retained the RAW format for photos as well, so you can enable that to get more post-production control.

GoPro Apps:

Finally, we’ll wrap up with GoPro Capture and GoPro Quik.  GoPro Capture is their phone app that allows you to control and offload files from the GoPro action cameras to your smartphone.  GoPro Quik meanwhile is an editing tool that allows you to quickly generate ‘edits’ (videos) using your captured content.  The app can leverage things like accelerometer data, highlights, and even facial recognition to pull together an automated edit of your day.

Starting with the regular app though, we’ve got the ability to connect to your camera and then either download photos/videos from it, or control it.  You can also setup WiFi from it so that the camera will connect directly to WiFi networks and upload your goods:

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From a camera control standpoint, you can change virtually every setting on the camera remotely using WiFi (up to the range of WiFi).

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Much of this is all the same that’s been on the camera/app for years.  However, in the last year they’ve enabled the camera to quickly offload files anytime it’s nearby your phone.  This means that by the time you open up the app, it’s already got the photos and videos loaded on it.  It’s mostly pretty slick, and you can see them on the top up there from different days:

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I say ‘mostly’, because sometimes it’s a bit finicky.  Also, it doesn’t automatically transfer over any of the higher end stuff, like 4K60 or 1080P240.  You have to do that manually.

Further on the ‘mostly’ front, you can’t preview 4K60 or 1080P240 content from your phone via WiFi to the camera, you have to download it all to the phone first (the whole file), which can take a long time.  So that’s definitely a bummer.

Part of the conduit though from Capture is over to GoPro Quik, which is their editing app.  It’s here that it’ll put together automated day highlights, or, you can create your own.   You’ll start by pulling in footage, both from the GoPro as well as anything else you’ve got on there (like phone videos/photos).

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Then you can go ahead and choose a theme, duration, and music as well.  All of which usually doesn’t take too long.

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At this point, you can tweak the edit as you see fit by adjusting clips and some basic special effects.  It’s somewhat the perfect app while sitting in an Uber to the airport to knock out an edit before your flight home from vacation.

Finally, it’ll export out a short clip for ya.  Here’s an example of one I did last weekend:

As you can see, I didn’t spend a ton of time within the app.  Instead, I just let it do its thing for the most part.  It’s also dependent on the footage you give it.  So I had less establishing shots with this – as well as less variety on this specific day that I fed it (since it didn’t pull in the 4K60 footage automatically).  Still, it’s not too shabby for minimal effort.

Meanwhile, much of this same stuff is available on the desktop side as well.  You can see here the combination of local clips and GoPro Plus (their cloud service) clips, all in one single pane of glass:

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I can then choose a given clip to start creating a video.  In this particular case the clip I selected was on the cloud, so it downloads it first.  This clip got there via WiFi from the camera.  I can also add more clips as I need to, and it’ll pull from from the appropriate source.  Note: Ignore the fact that this particular clip has mud all over the lens. #MountainBikingLife

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Next, I can simply tap exciting moments throughout the video clips, which in turn add the dots (clips) to the timeline.

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Next, I can add/change the music, or tweak the clips.  Further, I can add gauges to overlay on top of the footage too.  Apparently these two clips don’t have the GPS data in them (though I’m pretty sure I had it enabled), so you’ll get a bit of a message about that.  But you can see down below the different gauge types:

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It’s essentially pretty basic though, you don’t have a lot of customization you can do here like you would in Garmin’s VIRB Edit that has near limitless possibilities (especially including customizations).

So I’ll go back out and capture some more gauge-friendly footage in the next few days to add in, though it seems pretty similar to what I saw on the Hero5 Black (including various updates since then).

In any event – after that’s done you can export out the Quik story which is cut to music just like on the mobile app.

And all and all, GoPro’s made some pretty solid improvements here in the last year on this front.  Things are much cleaner than before, with most of the kinks worked out.  It’s not going to be for power users (I won’t likely use the desktop piece ever), but it’s definitely great for many others.  The mobile app piece though I’m far more likely to use to put together short edits for Instagram or similar.

Camera Model Comparisons:

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I’ve loaded the GoPro Hero6 Black into the product comparison tool for action cameras, which covers all the action cams I’ve reviewed.  I’ll likely be adding in the Yi 4K+ camera into that, though I can’t say I’d recommend it at this time (more on that after the table).  In any case, here’s the rundown of feature differences:

Function/FeatureGoPro Hero6 BlackGoPro Hero5 Black
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Price$499$399
AvailabilityGlobalGlobal
WiFi BuiltinYes (2.4Ghz/5Ghz)Yes
Bluetooth to PhoneYesYes
Recording LightYesYes
GPS builtinYesYes
Altimeter builtinYesYes
Water Resistant10m/33ft10m/33ft
AccellerometerYesYes
Video Preview ScreenYesYes
Voice ControlYesYes
BatteryGoPro Hero6 BlackGoPro Hero5 Black
Recharges viaUSB-CUSB-C
Removable batteryYesYes
Recording Time1hr 4K / 2hr20m 1080p301hr 4K / 2hr20m 1080p30
Secondary attached batteryOnly via USBOnly via USB
StorageGoPro Hero6 BlackGoPro Hero5 Black
Storage Card TypeMicro-SDMicro-SD
Maximum Card Size256GB128GB
VideoGoPro Hero6 BlackGoPro Hero5 Black
Records 360* VideoNoNo
4K24/25/30/60 fps24/25/30 fps
2.7K24/25/30/48/50/60/100/120 fps24/25/30/48/50/60 fps
1440p24/25/30/48/50/60/80 fps24/25/30/48/50/60/80 fps
1080p24/25/30/48/50/60/80/90/120/200/240 fps24/25/30/48/50/60/80/90/120 fps
960p50/60/120 fps50/60/120 fps
720p25/30/50/60/120/240 fps25/30/50/60/120/240 fps
WVGAN/A240 fps
Automatic Image RotationYesYes
Image StabilizationYes - up to 4K30Yes - up to 2.7K
Looping RecordingsYesYes
Timelapse Mode (constructs timelapse video)YesYes
Travelapse ModeNoNo
Pro Settings ModeYesYes
AudioGoPro Hero6 BlackGoPro Hero5 Black
Internal MicrophoneYes3 mics
Supports Bluetooth MicrophonesNoNo
Pro mode with seperate tracksYesYes
PhotoGoPro Hero6 BlackGoPro Hero5 Black
Megapixels12MP12MP
Timelapse Mode (photos on interval)0.5,1,2,5,10,30,60s0.5,1,2,5,10,30,60s
Burst ModeUp to 30 photos/secondUp to 30 photos/second
Continuous Shooting ModeYesYes
Concurrent w/video modeYesYes
Records 360* PhotoNoNo
Pro Settings ModeYesYes
RAW photo creation supportYes + HDR Mode tooYes
SportsGoPro Hero6 BlackGoPro Hero5 Black
Skiing ModeNoNo
Control from sport computerNoNo
ANT+ Sensor ConnectivityNoNo
Bluetooth Sensor ConnectivitynoNo
ANT+ Profile TypesNoNo
Overlays sport data on recordingYesYes
PhoneGoPro Hero6 BlackGoPro Hero5 Black
App platforms availableiOS/AndroidiOS/Android
Use as remote controlYesYes
Stream live video previewYesYes
Record video from cameraYEsYes
Multi-camera live control/previewNoNo
SoftwareGoPro Hero6 BlackGoPro Hero5 Black
App for computerWindows/MacWindows/Mac
AccessoryGoPro Hero6 BlackGoPro Hero5 Black
Remote control button/keyYesYes
Diving caseYEsYes
Mount TypesGoPro Hero6 BlackGoPro Hero5 Black
Head StrapYesYes
Helmet StrapYesYes
Handlebar/SeatpostYesYEs
TripodYesYes
Suction CupYesYes
Chest HarnessYEsYes
Wrist Strap/HousingYesYEs
Roll BarYesYes
SurfboardYesYEs
Curved AdhesiveYesYes
Flat AdhesiveYEsYes
Adjustable Mounting ArmsYesYes
Device ConnectionsGoPro Hero6 BlackGoPro Hero5 Black
USB Connector TypeUSB-CUSB-C
Micro-HDMIYesYEs
Composite VideoWith adapterWith adapter
Audio 3.5mm Stereo MicWith adapterWith adapter
PurchaseGoPro Hero6 BlackGoPro Hero5 Black
Amazon LinkLinkLink
Clever Training Link (Save 10% with DCR10BTF)LinkLink
DCRainmakerGoPro Hero6 BlackGoPro Hero5 Black
Review LinkLinkLink

Oh – and you can make your own comparison charts using the comparison calculator here, so if you’ve got different cameras you want to compare – go forth!

As for why not the Yi 4K+, the main reason is it just feels cheap.  Be it the waterproof case with the poor latch mechanism that easily falls off, or the construction of the unit itself.  While it does make some decent footage, I’m not sure it’s worth the tradeoff in an action scenario versus some of the other options.  Perhaps as more of a static b-roll camera.  Just my two cents.

When it comes to comparing this to the Garmin VIRB Ultra 30 for sports, that’s a tough one.  This easily bests that camera from an image quality standpoint, but does still lag behind for things like data metrics.  Garmin dominates data overlays and such, and GoPro isn’t playing in the same league there. On the flip-side, if you’ve got a secondary Garmin device to capture those metrics, you can use the GoPro camera footage with that data.  So perhaps that’s an option for some.

Summary:

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Overall, I’m blown away by the GoPro Hero6 Black.  As regular readers know, I’m all about a few core things, and in particular with action cameras: Image quality, ease of use, and the end-state specs.  And in all three categories this nails it, especially image quality.  But even with recent improvements over the past year for the GoPro apps, things got considerably better.  And of course, having the flexibility of 1080p240 and 4K60 is huge.

Which isn’t to say there isn’t room for improvement from GoPro.  Certainly, there is. Things like the lack of automatic transfer of higher end footage to GoPro Quik is one area.  As is the ability to preview that footage from the mobile app while on the camera.  And then pieces of the desktop app are still occasionally frustrating.  Still, from a hardware standpoint, I have almost no complaints (ok, maybe that little $20 charging port cover).

Overall though, this will undoubtedly be my ‘daily driver’ action cam that I use all the time.

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129 Comments

  1. Great review Ray. Definitely want one of these following my accident with my Hero 5 in the Adriatic!

    Is that the new shorty mount you were using in the video? Looks more convenient than the three way?

    Cheers

    Ian

    • Yup indeed. It’s nice for running actually. I did some videos of something totally unrelated yesterday running with it and it worked out well. For cycling I still prefer the 3-way.

  2. Matt

    What about the Cable camera you are using there?

    • Wiralcam: http://www.wiralcam.com

      They launch in a few weeks and I’ll have a bit of a first look out around that time. I’ll also release more footage in the next day or two. Deal with conversion of all this 4K60 footage because FCP doesn’t support it has been killing me. Really slows everything. Hoping that since iMovie got the update for H.265 a few days ago, maybe FCP will be next.

  3. Mihkel

    The links for the first HDR comparison shots of the mountain range both point to the same image. I must shamefully admit I took a bit too long to realize this.

  4. Any UK buying links yet Ray? Amazon.co.uk doesn’t seem to have it, and neither does CleverTraining.co.uk. Only place to buy in the uk appears to be Garmin direct?

  5. Fabian

    So do you think we are at the end of life of hero Session family?

    • I don’t think so. I think it’s them basically saying “Good enough for this year for Session”, which I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with. I’d imagine there’s very little cross-over between folks that want the higher end features of the Hero6 Black that aren’t reasonably happy with the Hero5 Session (not saying they don’t exist of course, but I bet not enough to make the product worthwhile at this point).

    • I was waiting for a Hero 6 session, I like the small size of the Session, it’s alot lighter and on my roadbike no one even notices it. But i had the Hero 4 session, and the vid quality isn’t to good in low light and while the Hero 5 session has 4k, it’s still alot worse than the Hero 5 Black. I was waiting for Hero 6 session with the same videoquality of the Hero 5 black!

      Also Ray what do u think about the YI 4K+? That also films in 4k30fps and on youtube doesn’t even look so bad against a GoPro Hero 5 black?

    • I picked up the Yi 4K+ last week to play/compare with the GoPro for this review. Obviously, the price is attractive…but many…it just feels so cheap.

      The case is clunky, and the mechanism on top constantly falls off when trying to lock/unlock the case. The covers for things like the charging port likely wouldn’t last long either. Quality wise it’s not bad though. I think it’d be fine as a secondary b-roll camera, but i certainly wouldn’t want it as my primary action cam. Also, the waterproofing of the GoPro Hero5/6 series is just sweet. It’s the main reason it’s my go-to cam for vacations/holidays over the Garmin.

      I’ve got side by side footage that’s going up shortly. Been in WiFi hell, but have a bunch to share.

    • But it is €200 cheaper, comes closer to the Hero 5 session, and that mount isn’t as good either (broke 1)! Also cover ports don’t matter that much if u place it in the waterproof case, does it? I’m not swimming with my action cams, only use them on the road/mtb-bike. I think i’m going with the YI 4K+, in other comparisons it even beats the GoPro Hero 5 black. Where did u get yours btw?

  6. j2b2

    Hi Ray, great review, how does the Hero 6 electronic stabilisation compare to the Hero4/5 with Karma grip combo? Thanks!

    • Nah, Karma Grip still wins there easily. If/when my WiFi improves I’ve got some footage mountain biking showing the differences between using Karma Grip vs native stabilization.

      Though, to be fair, for things like walking you do get much closer than before. It’s when you get to rougher situations that the Grip pushes ahead.

  7. Robin

    “I won’t likely use the desktop piece ever” – I don’t have a desktop computer. Is just working through the iOS app valid (iPad or iPhone)? Is the data quality downgraded if I save the data via iOS to say OneDrive? How much functionality do I lose by not having a desktop?

    Thanks

    • Same quality actually, which is capped at 1080p either app you use. I’d need to double-check if there’s any differences in gauge overlay stuff on mobile, but I feel like the workflow is just more efficient for me to use on mobile if I’m using the GoPro Quik app to edit something.

      The reason I’m saying I won’t likely use the desktop piece much is that I tend to use Final Cut Pro for any edits I do (much more powerful app). And thus if I’m using the Quik app is likely just for social media or something quick, hence the desire to be on the phone.

    • Robin

      Thanks. I guess I’m going to need to get a computer first. Thanks Ray.

  8. Martin Robinson

    Another excellent review.
    I’m just waiting for my Airdog II and was about to order a Gopro Hero 5 Black to go with it. As the form factor of the 5 and 6 are the same, I was wondering whether I could just go straight to the 6. Any idea whether this is a possibility?

    Cheers

    Martin

  9. Sadly still the same old s**t iOS app that required login, not that you cannot bypass but it’s ducking annoying.

  10. “I’m all about a few core things, and in particular with action cameras: Image quality, ease of use, and the end-state specs. And in all three categories this nails it, especially image quality.”

    I’m almost convinced the Hero6 is worth it for that image quality and less flat/washed out photos, but I think the Virb Ultra 30 still wins out due to ease of use because of that mechanical turn on and start recording switch. After too many times trying to get action sports footage with a GoPro and it not recording or being in the wrong mode, just flicking that switch on the Virb is so pleasing.

    Is that a valid observation for your use of the GoPro, or do you not have that issue?

    • I haven’t had that problem much. Maybe once or twice a year. Usually I have the problem of the button geting depressed in my bag or something. That’s it.

      Maybe I’m just so focused on triple-checking it’s recording (or listening for the beeps), that I don’t notice it.

  11. Ronald Meier

    Ray, how is the audio quality vs the old versions?

    • They say it’s improved, but it seems pretty similar to me. Still, I don’t have a problem with it. I’ll post an unrelated video where I use the GoPro Hero6 audio the entire time while running (+pre-running commentary).

      It sounds fine to me, within the constraints of having a frame case around the unit it’s fine for most things. I think if one is looking for really high quality audio there are probably better ways to get it.

  12. Daniel G

    Hi man,

    Another superb review. I want to ask if you know anything about a new Garmin Camera. I am interested in the ANT+ conectivity. Otherwise i will buy a hero 6 camera. Keep doing what you do.

    Thanks.

  13. Ben

    Another great review!

    Just one question, I’m looking for the best compromise between image stabilization, framerate and resolution. What framerate can you get at 2.7K with image stabilization? Over 60fps?

    Thanks
    Ben

  14. Miquel

    I’d like to buy an action cam and I had doubts between the Hero 5 Black and the Virb Ultra 30. Now I have to add the Hero 6 Black to the equation. Which one would you recommend? I would use it from time to time, so if I can save some bucks, it’s a positive point.
    Do you expect Garmin to release a new Virb to compete with the new Hero 6 Black?

    • Garmin says they’re focused on the VIRB 360 for the near term. I suspect we might see something next spring or summer, but for now I think they’re trying to win the 360* battle (vs GoPro at this price point). And given the software stacks, I think they have a really good shot at doing so (marketing challenges aside).

      I think it comes down to how much you value doing data overlays, and whether you have other devices to record the GPS/fitness data. Certainly you can use VIRB Edit with GoPro footage, but you’d still need something else to record the data on.

  15. Ian S

    Thanks Ray, great review as ever!

    Can you explain how this would work – ‘Garmin dominates data overlays and such, and GoPro isn’t playing in the same league there. On the flip-side, if you’ve got a secondary Garmin device to capture those metrics, you can use the GoPro camera footage with that data.  So perhaps that’s an option for some’.

    Does that mean I could use a combo of Go-Pro and Fenix 5 to achieve the same Virb effect?

    • I’m not sure if GoPro Quik or Splice do this now, but certainly you can use something like RaceRender for the Mac http://racerender.com or Dashware for Windows http://www.dashware.net to import a GPX file and then add data overlays to the GoPro video…

    • Paul S.

      You just grab a copy of VIRB Edit and use that. In the beginning it had trouble with formats (resolution x frame rate) that VIRBs didn’t support, but I think they’ve abstracted away most of that so you shouldn’t have any problems. It’ll probably be a while before it supports HVEC, though (although maybe on macOS it’ll get it automatically with High Sierra since iPhones now use it).

    • Matt H

      Yep, you don’t actually need a Garmin to use the VIRB software. I’ve used both GoPro footage and a cheap no name cam with a gpx file from my Suunto watch to overlay sensor data within VIRB edit. No physical Garmin elements were used at all.

  16. Daniel Wisniak

    Another excellent review.

    Is there a solution to enhance the battery life/a larger battery?
    The current ~2hr battery life imposes a limitation when you’re doing something where you just can’t stop to change it (eg long flights).

    My current Tomtom Bandit has a 3hr battery (real life) and this is enough for most purposes.

    Thank you.

    • Tom

      Definitely interested in this too – never upgraded to the Hero 5 from my 4 Black because I’m often in situations where I need the battery backpack. This has some compelling advances (improved low light capability would be quite useful), but the short battery life is kind of a deal killer as I often have it mounted places it can’t be accessed easily so changing batteries is an issue.

      That removable charging door should make it possible for some kind of bolt on extra battery, so keeping my fingers crossed.

  17. David

    Is there a Fusion review on the near horizon… I’d like to know how it compares to the VIRB.

  18. Kyle

    Camera looks awesome but $500 is pricey. We are getting into smartphone and Fenix 5 territory with it being $500. Just too much for a camera alone

  19. gingerneil

    Another great review….
    Any news on Hero 5 price drops ?
    You mention the ability to set long exposure – but is there a capability to set fast shutter speeds on individual photos ? I often get blur on by Hero3+Silver (yes, I live in 2013!) if taking photos whilst running. This can be mitigated a little by doing 10/1s bursts – but I’d rather be able to set the shutter speed on individual shots.
    (Goes back to a podcast question I asked a year or two ago. Remember the podcast you used to do ?! ;) )

  20. David

    Hey Ray,
    When you use these cameras are you using ProTune or pretty much full auto? It’d be cool to understand your go to camera settings to get these shots. I for one just got my first GoPro and am looking for a balance of great quality with low editing and color correction time.

    • Most times I just use full auto for videos. I’ll usually only use ProTune if I’m specifically planning to use the footage in something where I want a bit more control in post.

      Whereas for photos I’ve historically found on the Hero5 that I sometimes need to pop the exposure a bit more with ProTune. But with the Hero6, I haven’t had the need to do so (and the one time I did, I regretted it, as it then overexposed it since it would have properly exposed it on its on).

  21. Ken

    Ray,
    Is the audio turn on something you could accidentally invoke while its in your pocket / camera bag / seat next to you while driving from location 1 to location 2 or does it use a specific phrase that one likely wouldn’t say in normal conversation?

    I’d hate for it to ‘turn it self on’ & get 45 mins of close up of the gear shift lever & then not have power when I want to use it again.

  22. Hakkinen

    HEVC Modes: 4K60, “4K60”, 4K(4:3)30, 4K(4:3)24, 1080p240, 2.7K120, 2.7K(4:3)60

    do you mean 4K30 ?

    • Nope, just me doubling down on 4K60. ;) 4K30 is not HEVC.

      HEVC is the bain of my existence right now, since I can’t edit within FCP X on it yet. Life will be grand once that happens…

  23. Brian

    Disappointing that GoPro still doesn’t support bluetooth mics. The audio on my Hero 5 is terrible.

  24. Also why does a GoPro hero 6 black, cost so much more in €? While it should be €423 it instead cost €569! Such a rip-off!

    • As always, things cost more in Europe*. A European GoPro has a 2-year warranty, versus a US GoPro has a 1-year warranty. Given a GoPro as a outdoor action camera is far more likely to have issues due to usage over 2 years than 1 year, that cost is likely represented here. GoPro has support staff and centers within Europe, that all cost money to run, more money than in the US. We see this across many products, especially when margins are tight.

      *Largely due to various employment/social/tax policies, which is fine, that’s the trade-off we have for other things that those living in the US don’t have.

    • Eric Ivik

      Ray great review as always! I’m getting one!Quick question for you do you know if there is a Hero 6 session In the works? And what mount are you using to mount both cameras on in that woods shot.Thanks bud!😀

    • I don’t expect a Hero6 Session anytime soon. Probably next year, but would be a question of whether we see them do something perhaps in the spring (highly unusual), or focused more on next fall (100% typical).

  25. Phil A

    Just a note that you have a typo in the comparison chart above. In the column next to “Record video from camera” you have “YS” not “YES”.

  26. Sylvester Jakubowski

    No changes to the GPS? Almost no mention of it in your post Ray.

    • No changes there that I’ve seen. I briefly cover it at the end, but it’s basically the same insofar as I can tell (both from the behind the scenes docs I have as well as my meetings with them at their HQ a bit back).

      The oddity I noted was that my camera says it’s recording with GPS, but Quik didn’t pick it up. That may be because some of the footage I captured was on Release Candidate firmware, and then there might just be a simple Quik mismatch. So I’m capturing some new stuff on yesterday’s firmware and will run it through again to see if it works fine then. Either way, it’s all super basic.

    • I have a couple of observations on GPS after using the Hero6 last couple of days:

      1) GPS acquisition seems much quicker than it was in Hero5. I often leave the camera off in my jersey pocket while cycling, then pull it out, turn it on, wait for GPS and shoot. That seems much quicker with the 6, almost instant for GPS in most cases.
      2) Exporting photo’s and video’s from Quik on the iPhone doesn’t always carry over the GPS data. I’m sure there is a pattern to it, but haven’t worked it out as yet!

  27. byDesign

    Sorry, OT – any plans to review this? Looks super cool (no affiliation whatsoever) if a bit pricey for what it does.
    link to omata.com

    • Paul S.

      Pretty, but it looks very expensive for what it does. No ANT+/Bluetooth sensors (it mentions them but it can’t display them. Does it record them in the FIT?) Speed, distance, altitude, time of day only the display? The top of the line Garmin Edge 1030, which does a whole lot more than this, costs only $50 more.

    • Yeah, I’ve got a few, will dive into them more in the coming weeks. It’s expensive, no doubt. They’re roughly trying to be in the same category as various expensive watches. More about style than pure features.

  28. Tim Schallberger

    Hey Ray,

    Any idea if the Hero 6 will shoot Timed Exposures in Raw mode? With my Hero 5 Black RAW is only supported in single exposure mode. I tend to sestup my GoPro to shoot a photo every 30 seconds instead of video.

    Thanks for all the reviews…

  29. William

    Great review. I will stick to my upgrade cycle of a couple of years since I just bought a 5 to replace my 3+. I haven’t updated my GP5 firmware as I got these 3rd party batteries that I want to use. I don’t think I missed much from not upgrading the firmware so far.

    • Andy

      I have Smatree 3rd party batteries and the latest firmware. Working fine. I have noticed that the stock battery has much better “hibernation” time – that is – sitting in the camera, no wireless functions activated – than the Smatree versions. I can leave it sitting a week and come back to a nearly full battery. The Smatree cells seem to bleed power much faster.

    • William

      I have the Smatree 3rd party batteries too. Bought them back in Nov of 2016. They offered me a refund on them..I guess Smatree had since made some changes to make them compatible.

  30. Daniel Wisniak

    How does it compare to the Ghost 4K by Drift Innovation?
    Thanks

  31. Clemens

    What about the mic quality. I honestly seen like 20 reviews while nobody did a sound check. As the Hero 5 had some Mic issues and I really dont want to buy an external mic this is a dealbreaker for me. ( not to forget this thing is expensive enough )

    Would love a short clip of the mic, maybe in comparison to the hero5 and the hero 4 ( which had an insane mic I.M.O ).

    Greetings

  32. Dave

    Is there any option in the menus to enable HEVC in all modes?

    Also, what if anything can you say about the rumored joystick-enabled Karma Grip update?

  33. Ivan P.

    Ray- Does the desktop GoPro Quik app work with non-GoPro footage? Previously, anything shot with my Mavic Pro wouldn’t import into Quik, which is really annoying if you want to quickly put together a video with footage from both.

  34. Dave M

    I’m curious about image quality. I generally think of image quality in terms of a) noise, and b) blockiness.
    Noise is mainly sensor limited, so has the sensor changed? Chipsets can only compensate so much for a noisy sensor.
    Blockiness is a often combo of resolution, data rate, codec, and motion in a scene. I haven’t seen anyone comment on the data rate, and presumably the new codec is an attempt to keep the data rate down while maintaining image quality, but while that may work in some situations, does it work in all? If there is a lot of random unpredictable motion (I.e waves ) how well is the image quality maintained?

  35. Kring

    Great review, thanks. I guess it’s a good unit for doing short video shoots. I just continue to be disappointed by their lack of battery time or way to add battery so that it can record a full ride, 8 hours should be an option.

  36. Eugene Snoek

    Hero6 supports cards up to 256GB, at least it says so in the manual at page 8.

  37. J. Gramm

    I got so badly burnt by horrible Hero 3 Black (unusable for the first half year, first year still a lot of bugs and freezes) that I never looked back to GoPro. This one looks really interesting but rebuying all cases, batteries etc. is a significant cost as well. Did the later, post Hero 3 Gopros fare better when it comes to reliability? Mine froze and crashed 70% of the time even after updating the firmware about 15 times and using the best and fastest memory cards.

    • Yeah, a lot has changed in 5 years since the Hero3. Things are generally quite reliable. I would say that in almost every scenario where people see freezes, it’s due to bad micro-SD cards (which are very common, especially fakes).

  38. For those interested in the tech behind the new h265 file format:
    link to sonnati.wordpress.com
    (Half the file size is very optimistic)

  39. Eran

    So it’s waterproof even without the case? That’s a superb feature! I’m hesitating now between this one and the Garmin Virb Ultra 30. The Virb’s data features are very appealing, so I thought it’s going to be an easy choice, but I hate that waterproof case and if I understood correctly the Virb isn’t water resistant at all, so it cannot be used for skiing or biking in rainy days without the case (?), whereas with the GoPro I won’t need that bulky case at all for these activities (?). So it’s more difficult for me to decide now…

    • Correct, no case needed to 33ft/10m – same as Hero5 series (both Black and Session) as well.

      And correct, the VIRB Ultra 30 needs a case to be waterproof. I find you can get away without a case on sprinkling days in the frame mount, but I wouldn’t do heavy rain.

  40. ShaunW

    Hi Ray, how is the telemetry with this new version. I currently have the Hero 5 and constantly get laggy or even false data on the overlays when compared to my Garmin Edge GPS, ie when I’m on a trail and going downhill the Hero flutters around 3-5 mph (if at all) and the Garmin shows 8+ mph.
    In a support case (yes I actually managed to get through to GoPro support!!!) it seems that the Hero 5 is under-powered to cope with 1080p video AND accurate telemetry. I’m hoping that the new chipset improves that!
    Thanks,
    Shaun.

  41. bob miller

    thorough and relevant comparison

  42. Nick

    If you are in the market to get a GoPro do you think the $100 difference is worth getting the Hero 6 vs the Hero 5?

    • It depends. I’d say if you plan to edit in 4K, or plan to do action scenes that slowing down from 1080p240 makes sense – then yes it is worth while. The other area would be if you plan to use it in scenes where dynamic range is more important (i.e. mountain biking through trees).

      But if you’re more using it for beaches vacations where the Hero5 tends to do pretty well already, then I’m not sure it’s worth it for most people.

    • Robin

      Useful comment. Thanks

  43. Johan

    Hi Ray!
    Tried the Sony rx0?

    • No, but I’m struggling to see the value there for action sports. While it’s a small camera, it requires being tethered to an external storage system for anything that’s higher resolution. Meaning, it only tops out at 1080p60 working by itself. Any faster or higher resolutions require a whole cabled setup with it. And even though it can do some really high FPS stuff, it too reduces the resolutions pretty dramatically at that point.

      I think there’s probably scenarios for that unit and its lens (for example, inside a car where ceiling/etc mounting space is limited, but space in a drunk for storage/etc is pretty available). But I don’t think it really makes sense for action scenarios (unless I’m missing something – and I’ve done a lot of YouTube stalking on it.).

    • Audun

      Would be great to see a RX0 review. Resolution is not all, and a lot (most?) videos are shown on displays/in frames no more than 1080P anyways so 4K does necessarily make things better.

    • I think the challenge is that by itself I don’t think it’s a good action camera. It’s potentially good for other things. But since you can’t go above 1080p60, that’s kinda limiting for slow-mo action, or higher resolution stuff. And you also can’t get a very wide view, which can be challenging for some POV type shots (chest mount or even helmet will miss a lot of nearby action like handlebars).

      (Side note: I wrote a bunch more here, and then lower on that same post in the comments: link to dcrainmaker.com)

    • Audun

      Those are valid remarks, absolutely. Just want to mention that for me, I usually want a narrower field of view (without “digital zoom” / compromizing image quality). I havent been able to see a side-by-side Hero6/RX0 FOV comparison, but from what I can read it seems RX0 has a narrower FOV (which is a plus to me but possible not for most others).

      Too bad the RX0 does not have optical image stabilization from what I read. For me a camera with this, large sensor, high resolution, high FPS and a narrower FOV would be perfect. But I guess that camera is not made yet (at least not in a small package)

  44. Geoffrey

    Hey DC, do you think Garmin will update the Viirb 30 this year in response to the GoPro Hero 6? Or do you think its next year (maybe first quarter of 2018) before we se anything from Garmin?

  45. Regarding the audio customization…”That also goes the same for audio flexibility with the three microphones that are on the GoPro Hero6 Black as well, enabling you to record individual mics if you’d like, or have it do automatic wind reduction for you.”

    Where is this setting? I’m picking up horrible gimbal noise with my EVO SS. I only see options for Stereo Only and Wind Only in the preferences. It’d be great to pick the mic farthest away from the gimbal to try to negate the gimbal noise as much as possible.

    • It’s under ProTune, within Audio, then Low/Medium/High/Off. That in turns forces the creation of the secondary .WAV files.

    • Excellent, will give that a try!

    • Chris Chappell

      Hi Ed, please let us know how it goes with the EVO. I’m thinking of getting the 6 for my EVO as well. Thanks

    • Will do! I did a very short test last night and found the separate wav file. When I loaded it into FCPX it showed the multiple channels. That’s about as far as I got last night. I recorded my ride this morning, but have to wait until I get home from work to see how it worked out.

    • Ed Buckel

      Just to follow up with this, using the audio trick and separating out the audio channels in post does a fairly decent job of getting rid of most of the gimbal noise, however, it’s still not perfect. If you mess around with noise filters and EQ levels, you can get out more of the noise, but the audio starts to sound compressed. Below is a youtube link that discusses this in more depth.

      My other issue with the EVO SS and the Hero 6 is the added weight of the Hero 6. I’ve noticed I get the gimbal/gopro knocking around a bit more on the technical descents (mountain biking) as the gimbal doesn’t seem able to keep up as well with the heavier camera.

      I actually sold my EVO SS locally for $250 and upgraded to the Karma Grip.

      link to youtube.com

  46. Stephen Morris

    An excellent review but it appears to be missing the Audio comment from the Video and Audio section?

  47. hakkinen

    without gimbal, 4k30 would be the best option for shooting video outdoor.

  48. Hey Ray

    Is GoPro Plus still as crappy as it was when you reviewed it for the Hero5?

    Cheers

    Ian

    • It’s gotten better. Or perhaps I’ve just grown numb to it over the last year.

      Looking through my Hero5 section on it, the majority of items they have addressed one way or another. For example, being unable to upload to WiFi unless both plugged in and at 100% has been resolved. As has the incompatibilities between apps. Everything now can seamlessly pull from it.

      Still, there are some quirks. For example if you let your camera sync behind the scenes to your phone, that content doesn’t actually end up in GoPro Plus. I still have to sync again upwards via WiFi to get it there. That’s less ideal when travelling, like me for the last two weeks, because it nullifies GoPro Plus. I’ve got a follow-up string on some of the things I’ve seen with them, that I owe a response today on.

      I find myself using Plus partially as a backup, and partially as an easy way to grab photos without having to take SD cards out.

    • Thanks Ray – useful info :)

      Loving the Hero6 so far – performance wise it’s a world apart from the 5 for me.

  49. John

    Do you think we´ll have Bluetooth 5 on the next Gopro? That would be really nice!

  50. JP

    Ray – What combo garmin/gopro mount is the best bang for the buck right now? Do you have a “mount roundup” somewhere I am not finding?

    Just curious what it is worth spending when you go from Barfly to Garmin to K-Edge price-wise.

    • JP

      Oh, I would be looking for both a standard and TT setup with the TT being in front of BTA hydration

    • Yeah, the TT side is tough. I know K-Edge was planning something there, but I don’t think it ever happened.

      There was something I saw recently for a mini-GoPro mount below the aerobar at Interbike. For the life of me I can’t remember who made it…will have to ponder a bit.

    • JP

      I know there is the velocomp one and the barfly one, was curious about quality vs. cost (velocomp is 2x barfly)

      I have my computer mounted in front of my BTA bottle already, but it doesn’t have a camera/light mount under it and I would like to add one

      For the road bike, is the Garmin mount the best deal and will it work with 920xt?

    • The Velocomp one is definitely a beast, and more secure, I’m not sure it’s worth 2x though.

      For road-bike, I prefer the BarFly Prime or K-Edge out-front. Either way, a metal mount. The Garmin is plastic and I don’t want the slide bit of bounce you get on plastic.

    • JP

      Either you helped me out or I was the benefit of an Amazon error, and when I just checked the normally $59 velocomp had “1 remaining available from clevertraining” for $29 + shipping”

      No brainer. Problem is I was in such a hurry to make sure I didn’t miss the opportunity, I forgot to click the DCR banner…

      If you had anything to do with that “mistake” thanks, if not, this convo resulted in me checking prices again, so…

    • I can’t take credit there, but no worries – I appreciate the the attempt nonethless!

  51. Julian

    Not sure if it’s just my browser loading a cached copy of the webpage, but the comparison with the Hero5, Sony, Yi and VIRM is still listed as: “[Video Uploading Slowly on Hotel WiFi]”.

  52. tyler

    Love the review, that camera were you using to take the photos in this review of the go pro? THANKS!

  53. I got one a few days ago and notice a couple of issues: now I have to carry a whole new cable – Hero6 uses a unique cable, and if you shoot 2.7k120 or 1080k240, the video is encoded in h265 and currently I have to convert the video to h264 in Handbrake because FCPX and Premiere cannot process the videos natively. Here’s my two cents worth: link to youtube.com