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Wahoo Adds Native Stryd Support for RIVAL Watch, Outlines Future Plans

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Its been one year since the Wahoo RIVAL GPS watch was launched, and in that time Wahoo has added a number of features. From track mode to structured workouts, music control to race distance snapping, find my phone and even singing happy birthday to you on your birthday. They’ve roughly added a small pile of features every 2-3 months. Some bigger ticket items, and some smaller items. Of course, this was known at launch. At the time Wahoo themselves pretty much admitted it was more about the future than it was the present, saying “We’re launching a business, a product category, we’re not launching a product”.

Today, they’re adding another smattering of features – the main one being native Stryd running power meter support within RIVAL, allowing you to pair directly to the Stryd sensor and get the full slate of details directly on the watch without 3rd party apps. This includes not just regular metrics like running power, but also the breakout metrics like “air power” (how much power is required to overcome the current wind), and form power.

Beyond what’s here today, they’ve sketched out (like, napkin-style), the future of RIVAL for the next while. Admittedly the details are a bit slim, and the timelines non-existent, but as grandmothers everywhere always say: It’s the thought that counts.

With that, let’s dive into it.

Stryd Power Meter Support:

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Now, the first minor nitpicker’s item to get out of the way is that, technically speaking, Wahoo has long supported the Stryd sensor using the regular power broadcast. I even showed it in my Wahoo RIVAL launch in-depth review a year ago. However, that was at best a kinda-works solution. Whereas now, it’s a fully clean and integrated solution. Charts, data fields, sensor naming, all that shows up properly.

So, to get started you’ll simply shake/whack/tap/pat/thunk/whatever your running shoe with the Stryd sensor on it. That’ll wake it up, and then go into the Wahoo app or Wahoo RIVAL watch to the sensors menu, and select to find a sensor to pair:

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You’ll see ‘Footpod’ listed. It doesn’t show ‘Stryd’ here (I’d suggest that’d be a nice touch), but will once you’re done. Once you accept the pairing, Wahoo immediately asks if you want to add power data fields. Behind the scenes, it also renames it Stryd.

With that, it’s time to add some of our own data fields. At launch, there’s a boatload of running fields to choose from, with all sorts of time variations. This is, as usual, where Wahoo is at its best: Making it silly easy to customize these fields from your phone, rather than playing Tetris on your watch trying to set up complex data screens.

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I set up a few data pages, including one for basic power tracking, and one for more advanced data metrics like air power. Here are all of the run-power specific metrics it supports:

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With that all set, off on a run I went. As I ran I could easily toggle through my data pages, and the sensor didn’t exhibit any dropouts or other quirks. It lit up the data fields the second I started walking (despite having paired it four days prior). And of course, while running, showed me appropriate data. In this first one, I just went with a simple 5-second rolling average, alongside my lap average. So this would be ideal for interval training.

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Next, I’ve got a 3-second rolling average, along with my distance and time:

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And then finally I did one with Air Power and Form Power. Air Power shows the power required to overcome air resistance. On a normally windy day around these parts, this would be quite a bit higher. But somehow this run managed to be basically calm and windless. Of course, it’s windy as I write this. Albeit, it’s gusting to 50KPH and just on the border of rain and snow outside, so…I’m going to use the data from last week thank you very much.

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For the most part, at this juncture, the experience wasn’t terribly unlike other watches that support Stryd. You run harder, the wattage goes up, you run easier and/or more efficiently and the wattage goes down. This isn’t really rocket science at the end-user level. The data field options though on the RIVAL far surpass any other company in this space in terms of the configuration of running power data.

However, after the run is a bit less ideal. For example, the on-watch run summary screen doesn’t show any running power metrics at all.

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The good news is that disappointment is short-lived. Within the Wahoo app, then you see all the data within the run history shown right there. This includes your power chart, power zones, power curve, and per lap power data. Basically, Wahoo just owned everyone in this camp.

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In fact, now’s a good time to mention you can connect your Stryd account to your Wahoo account, which means it should get your runs afterwards. This does not, unfortunately as it says below, retroactively pull in your older Wahoo data. So if you forget to link this to your account like me, until after your run, you’re out of luck. But that’s a minor thing.

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In fact, after you do the above, you’ll see a new ‘Running Power Zones’ option within the Wahoo app, indicating that was done correctly, and that it automatically pulls the data in from Stryd.

In any event, back on the Wahoo side, all this data is properly transmitted to 3rd party platforms, and shows up in the .FIT file too. For example, here it is on TrainingPeaks with power data:

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And here it is in the DCR Analyzer, showing me the recorded advanced metrics within the .FIT file itself, meaning that any app can use and take advantage of this data (just as the case with Garmin and COROS. With Suunto and Polar, they only support the base power data being written to the fields). And further, Garmin doesn’t support writing the power to the native power data field, so 3rd party apps have to know to support the custom data fields, versus ‘just working’ with the native power field as COROS/Suunto/Polar do.

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I like it when companies support standards and do it right.

Now before we get into some comparisons, it’s worthwhile noting that Wahoo has some fancier color data fields planned for down the road. They’ll ideally look like the below screenshots I was sent, once implemented.

So while they aren’t here today, they look good for down the road.

How’s it compare?

So finally, how does this differ from what other companies do? Well, that gets complex really quick, but the much shorter version is that it puts them in the game. However, the game is a funny and complex thing.

From a Stryd and running power standpoint, there are many nuances. For example, the list of questions includes:

A) Does the sensor require a 3rd party app, or does it pair natively? Answer: Pairs Natively.
B) Does the watch properly save and store all the data fields transmitted from the sensor? Answers: Yes.
C) Can you create running power meter zones (e.g. like heart rate zones)? Yes
D) Are those running power zones different than cycling power zones? Yes
E) Can you create structured workouts with running power targets (e.g. set a target of 350w for 5 minutes within a structured file)? Yes, I was able to do so with TrainingPeaks.

As I said, it can get messy quickly.

Take Garmin for example. They actually don’t support running power natively at all. Like literally, it’s “No” to all those questions above. Instead, they’ve offloaded that to Garmin Connect IQ, for both their own running power and Stryd’s. From a consumer standpoint, that kinda works, but also is kinda messy. You don’t get clean and native integration of running power data like you could or would with cycling power. It’s literally this second-class citizen in every possible way. So on paper, it’s “No” for everything above for Garmin, but in the real world, it’s mostly ‘Yes’, if you use the Stryd data field/apps.

Whereas if you look at COROS, it’s very much a first-class citizen. Sure, there are some quirks, but both COROS’s own running power metrics and Stryd’s integration with it are very strong. Polar and Suunto sorta sit in a different camp in that with Polar you can create power zone targeted workouts (Suunto doesn’t support any structured workouts), and both write the data to the power data field. But neither writes or shows any of the advanced data from the Stryd sensor (like Air Power), instead, you have to sync your pod to the Stryd app, which combines that data with the watch data and gives you the full picture.

So yes, you eventually arrive at your destination, but it’s just not nice and tidy like it is with the RIVAL. None of the other watches show this level of detail directly in the smartphone app, as Wahoo does.

However, one gap that Wahoo has is that it lacks the structured workout sync from Stryd to Wahoo, and given that Stryd now has a paid subscription service wrapped around that, that is sorta a wrinkle in this pickle. Or maybe it’s just a pickle. Or a wrinkle. Look, I don’t know – it’s just missing.

Other New Planned Features:

Next, we’ve got a few new features that have been added. To be honest, I’m not entirely sure if this statistics tab is 100% new, since it’s been in my Wahoo RIVAL beta app for so long I forgot it’s new. But, I’ll trust them that like NBC says, if you haven’t seen it, it’s new to you. Here’s a prettier-looking set of screenshots from Wahoo than my data. It shows you summary (vs goal) data over the past week, including steps, workout time, running time, cycling, swimming, strength, calories, odometer, and time in zone breakouts.

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Now in addition to the next bits, remember Wahoo is also adding the colorized data fields for Stryd, as I showed/mentioned earlier. That’s coming “this fall”, which, by my calculations is less than three weeks away from ending. Wahoo confirmed last night that my advanced calendaring calculation is accurate. So, sounds like another update is due in pretty quickly.

Ok, so let’s stop talking about running power and talk about all the other things that Wahoo is adding or planning to add. This list was kinda just tossed at the end of the press release, literally, the last two paragraphs stating:

“With additional planned software updates, RIVAL users will be able to see average resting heart rate, heart rate variability, and other health tracking data in the Statistics Tab.

Wahoo is looking forward to continuing to add more features into RIVAL as it enters its second year, with the goal of making it the most feature-rich sport watch available at its price point. Other updates planned include Android music control, drill/kick mode for pool swimming, breadcrumb navigation, sleep tracking, and updated user interfaces.”

So, keeping in mind that there are dates for approximately 0% of these features, here’s what’s being added, distilled down version:

– Adding resting heart rate
– Adding heart rate variability data
– Adding some other unknown health tracking data
– Adding Android Music Control (they already have iOS music control)
– Adding swimming drill/kick mode in the pool
– Adding breadcrumb navigation (aka routing/course support, which they lack today)
– Refreshing the user interface

It’s good to see Wahoo continuing to add updates here, and I’m hoping this will be the start of a higher update cadence going into 2022.

If we look at the running power features, they follow a somewhat predictable trend for Wahoo: They’re rarely first with new features (no matter the segment), but, when they do add them, they tend to do so far better than anyone else. These features usually have what is clearly an abundant amount of thought and precision in them, and end up being fantastically simple to use, while also being comprehensive. And that’s certainly true here too.

The challenge for Wahoo is how to balance perfectionism with practicality and progress. In roughly the timeframe Wahoo has spent adding an impressively perfect running power implementation, COROS did a perfectly fine running power implementation while also adding in like 20-40 other features to new and old watches, and released a new watch. And Garmin’s done the same quantity of new features on existing watches too. I don’t have an answer for Wahoo there, but I think it’s something they have to consider balancing. Perfection is sometimes the enemy of progress.

With that, thanks for reading!

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35 Comments

  1. Stefan

    Will the RIVAL only support the Stryd footpod or other brands as well? I‘m more interested in getting the pace from a footpod than running power…

  2. Juri

    So frustrating that Garmin hasn’t added it natively yet. Maybe this is a little kick in the butt (probably not)

    Even if you can do most stuff via CIQ it’s still so severely limited by having to use up on of only two?! (How can it still be only two, even on the high end watches) CIQ pages..

    Really hoping for added functionality one day

    • Dave Lusty

      Garmin add loads of things all the time. I’d bet you that there were more people asking for a climbing profile than seriously asking for run power. Even if you ignore the obvious issues with how power is being “measured” the usefulness for running is nowhere near that of cycling. Granted, it’s probably more useful than running dynamics which still have no concrete info on how to use them usefully in training!

    • Stephen Cousins

      Everyone else who matters is adding native running power. Regardless of how widely it has been adopted by the running community and regardless of how useful it is as a metric and furthermore regardless of how it is calculated, Garmin cannot sit around doing nothing. They have to add native power soon or they will be left behind. If they do add it then Stryd is dead because, let’s face it, almost everyone uses Garmin. Unless you want to run on a treadmill, you’ll just use Garmin’s version of running power rather than spending another $200 on a Stryd in addition to the $500 you spent on the watch.

    • Will

      Garmin already offers running power of it’s own, this is not new and it’s rarely used I am quite sure.
      I watch that displays run power alone will be of little use.
      It’s the eco system that’s needed to make it useful.
      Maybe if Garmin integrates power in to PacePro (Power Pace Pro?) it then becomes actionable data.

    • Dave Lusty

      “Everyone else” won’t get nearly the problems Garmin will when it turns out the algorithms aren’t accurate or consistent. It would be a support nightmare for Garmin and I can see why they’ve stayed away for the most part.

    • Dave Lusty

      Also, surely the training tools ought to come first? Treadmills can neither display power nor be controlled to train by it, both of which would be easy enough if power were useful for runners. Outdoors it’s impossible to maintain power due to terain so it would mostly be yet another fun to look at statistic for most. With cycling it works because you can maintain power indoors and out to make training more consistent.

    • Will

      Dave – you don’t need to make power constant, just within a tight enough window, just like you do with pace. But with power you can run on an undulating course and stay in the right zone, unlike pace. Horses, courses.

    • Dave Lusty

      I don’t agree. Cycling it’s easy to put in fewer watts by changing gear or pedalling less hard. The motion remains constant and the muscles are the same. Running is not like that at all, the motion is completely different depending on pace and incline so the muscles in use will change if you change incline or pace to adjust power. Ask any horse rider – they have names for different speeds of motion! This effectively means your specificity is gone which makes the training useless. If you make the incline and pace consistent enough to train certain muscles then you’re not targetting a power zone. There’s no point in jogging to reduce power if you’re training to run!
      Just because it works in one sport doesn’t make it effective for all sports. There’s a reason swimmers don’t tend to use swim watches, and it’s not because they don’t care about their pace!

    • Stephen Cousins

      They do have their own version of power yes. But to get it you need to buy either a Dynamics Pod or an HRM Pro or similar chest strap. Native power would change everything in terms of getting your ‘average runner’ to have a play around with power.

    • Agree they need to add this natively. People also forget that CIQ is limited to 2 data fields on watches. To use run power today in Garmin you use up one of the precious slots. When I use Supersapiens and run power, that’s it. No more funky CIQ data fields.

      Run power is getting more mainstream and as soon as someone launches a Stryd rival at a lower price point then it will only accelerate. This is leaving niche territory

  3. Corey Jenkins

    There are two main things that I have issues with Wahoo. #1 They do not have a web interface. I prefer looking at my data through a computer, not on my phone. Why can’t I see my data on a web interface. #2 No emergency feature and Live tracking. My Garmin watch has an emergency call feature which is extremely important to me. I have had to use that feature twice, but it works perfectly as well as the live tracker feature. Live tacking on my Wahoo Bolt does not work at all. Once the new line of Garmin bike computers come out, I will get rid of my Bolt and switch to Garmin exclusively, that is unless Wahoo fixes the two issues I have.

    • Nathan

      Here here to #1. I’m just talking generally, not about Wahoo.

    • Miguel Ferreira Pinto

      Strange, but Live Tracking works fine for me on my Roam and my Rival.

      Are you sure the problem is not the battery settings on your phone that put the live tracking to sleep?

  4. Jacob

    Still no backlight activation by wrist gesture?

  5. Paulo

    Do they plan to implement basic interval training in the Rival, like we have in all other brands?

  6. D. Marinov

    Hi Ray,
    I am a bit confused about running power, like what protocols and which profiles in specific is the Stryd using, I see it in the screen shots as an ANT+ sensor, but I can’t find anything on ANT+ or BLE running power? Or is it just using the cycling power profiles?

    • Joop

      Stryd uses a custom ANT+ channel for all the data that the Stryd datafield or Stryd app picks up and saves. Alongside that communication, the footpod sends power values over the ANT+ bike power profile and some running metrics over the ANT+ footpod profile

  7. Patric

    Hi Ray,
    maybe i didn‘t read all exactly. But will be the pace and gps also from the stryd?!
    That‘s what i think about native support.
    Thanks for answer

    • Patrick

      Just got the email from Stryd. Pace and distance can come from Stryd. This is similar to Coros

    • Patric

      Thanks for your answer ✊

    • Stephen Cousins

      Stryd does not have GPS. It uses an accelerometer, magnetometer and gyroscope to measure distance…and still doesn’t do it that well.

    • Rui Pereira

      In my case after calibration, Stryd is much better than GPS at measuring running distance, even in best possible conditions for GPS (clear skies, gps soak time, no cover, no tall buildings). When conditions are bad, it’s not even a close match. Ymmv (but it shouldn’t if you calibrate it).

    • Patric

      My mistake.
      Pace and distance and I’m fine with that.

    • Rui Pereira

      Pace is great too and more consistent. Since it depends on the accelerometers, it’s not affected by low gps reception (tall buildings, going inside a tunnel, etc). I have nothing to complain about pace/distance from Stryd (after calibrating in a track). In my case it’s always the source for indoors and outdoors activities.

  8. Frank

    Very impressed with how they’ve done this. I’ve gone from being very close to selling the Rival to now thinking it will go back to being my main workout watch. Especially with the features to come.

  9. Brandon

    I love to see as many quality companies compete in the wearable space as possible as it helps to push innovation across the board, however I laughed a little to see that on Wahoos roadmap for the Rival is resting heart rate lol. That’s something that should have been worked out a long time ago. Ray has mentioned before that certain features just need to be on a watch as box checkers, and showing rest heart rate should be a bare minimum feature. I’m not a Garmin fan boy by any means but it does amaze me how they are so far ahead of other companies in features and innovation. I suppose at least Coros gives you some stellar value for your money (coros 2 and Vertix 1 with new price point and maps).

    • vansickle

      I tried Coros Vertix 1 with new maps. Seems completely unusable for me, zooming takes ages. May be I’m doing something wrong, don’t know.

  10. Stephen Cousins

    They do have their own version of power yes. But to get it you need to buy either a Dynamics Pod or an HRM Pro or similar chest strap. Native power would change everything in terms of getting your ‘average runner’ to have a play around with power.

  11. Tom

    Switched from Garmin to Wahoo recently and love the Rival, however, it would be nice to get an updated fix on elevation issues. Seems to be a fairly common problem based on the interwebs. As much as I would love to claim 2600ft elevation gain over 9 miles, past history on same course shows it should be 300ft…

  12. mireste

    May be next harware revision will be in competition vs Garmin, this one (for me) no.

  13. Jeremy

    Hi,
    do we know if the Rival gets its distance from the Stryd pod if paired to, keeping the GPS only for track display ?
    It would ensure accurate distance and pace during the run..?
    (I guess it’s the case….but who knows 🙂 )

  14. Mihir Garikiparithi

    I know this comment will be polarizing but there’s some logic behind it. The Apple Watch is the most popular watch of all time. What wahoo should do is aim to cover every function the Apple Watch provides and sprinkle some wahoo sport science pixie dust over the top.

    Just my 2 cents.

  15. Kuifje777

    Great to see that Wahoo is continuing to update the Rival.

    In their post, Stryd mention „ Wahoo ELEMNT RIVAL gives you a visual gauge of your Stryd power zones so you can easily track the intensity you are running at!“.

    Does anyone know what the visual gauge does look like?

  16. jww

    Woof.

    Feature adds are cool, but still feels like a Beta that snuck into the wild.

    Not great for the overall brand perception, which in the trainer world is basically 10/10.