Wahoo Acquires Speedplay: Hints At Power Meter Pedal Future


Coming out of nowhere this morning, Wahoo Fitness has announced the acquisition of Speedplay – the makers of cycling pedals. The acquisition marks the second company that Wahoo has acquired this year, following The Sufferfest a bit earlier in the year. The move will see Wahoo take ownership of the entire Speedplay business, which is based in San Diego, CA. The purchase also includes 24 patents related to the pedals, including numerous non-road pedal based patents including cross and mountain pedals.

I had a chance to talk with Wahoo Fitness CEO Chip Hawkins this morning about the acquisition, including both their near term and long term plans. It’s clear from the discussion that Wahoo has big plans for Speedplay. Chip noted that there were two initial catalysts for the acquisition, mainly centered on the appeal of the product itself, but also the lack of clarity around which pedals a consumer should choose.

For example, he highlighted that if you did a comparison chart between the Speedplay pedal and most other competitors, a consumer would find that the Speedplay was lighter, more aero, better cornering clearance, as well as being dual-sided. But it was actually when he as a triathlete, went to pick out a pair on Speedplay’s website that everything went a bit fuzzy – with so many options to choose from and so little clarity about which was the best option.

Going Forward:


He said that going forward their plan will be to simplify and clarify a bit of the product lineup, and “reduce the confusion when people go to buy the products”, which is an area that Wahoo has largely excelled at over the past few years.  If you look at where the trainer market was when Wahoo first joined the scene, companies like Tacx and Elite had dozens of models to choose from. These days, those companies are down to just a handful of core models each – mirror Wahoo’s simplified Apple-like lineup.

Still, he sees room for product expansion as well. Saying that based on the patents in place “We can do cross pedals, and mountain pedals… and there’s lots of opportunity. I’m just excited, I love the mechanical gadgetry stuff!”

He says that the approximately 25 employees and the company’s operations will continue to be largely San Diego based for now. Though, he concedes they’ll be looking to dramatically increase production and capacity (all products are currently made in San Diego today). As such, roles and locales might shift over time. One of the two husband and wife founders, Richard Bryne, will remain onboard in a consulting position. However, the other founder, his wife Sharon Worman (previously serving as President of Speedplay) will depart the business.

Speedplay as a brand will continue, and simply be another product line in the Wahoo basket – just like KICKR or ELEMNT is today. It doesn’t sound like Speedplay will need to lose any vowels in order to stay within the Wahoo branding playbook.

He did note though that with the acquisition they’ll be looking to simplify and streamline interactions with the local bike shop/retailer base, in particular making it easier for them to obtain products and making it easier to sell Speedplay products. Further, they plan to “dramatically expand” the retail base for Speedplay products, which has dwindled a bit in recent years.

A Speedplay Power Meter:


So, the big question is: Is a Speedplay power meter in Wahoo’s future?

When asked, Chip laughed a bit. As for an answer, he was clearly trying to be a bit coy on that, but his ultimate answer doesn’t really leave much ambiguity. He says that “It is definitely an intriguing space”, followed a few seconds later by “I’m definitely interested in pedals for power.”

As readers may know, there have been attempts in the past for Speedplay based power meter pedals. Notably first by Metrigear (who was ultimately acquired by Garmin, and became Vector), and then as well as by Brim Brothers. Neither ever came to market with a pedal based power meter. And while it’s unlikely anyone from those or other companies would agree to be quoted on the topic – Speedplay is well known within the cycling industry for their ‘lawyers first’ approach, being aggressively litigious.

But Chip says, he plans to change that, in particular around licensing. He even noted that “We have a ton of patents that cover every aspect of that pedal and that fashion. But I think we’ll be more open with others, and we won’t be considered litigious…we won’t be hard to work with.”

He went onto say that he wouldn’t be opposed to working with other companies, in the same way Wahoo today works with numerous other partners on a variety of projects.

Ultimately, Chip’s official response aside – there’s considerable demand for a Speedplay based power meter, and I suspect that demand is a large part of Wahoo’s strategy here.

Still, don’t expect anything near-term tech-wise. Unlike some acquisitions, the two companies (Wahoo & Speedplay) haven’t been quietly working on new products for years behind closed doors. Instead, Wahoo’s going to initially focus on the simplification and expansion of Speedplay’s existing business, likely well before they start focusing on anything in an ‘intriguing space”.

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  1. John B

    A friend gave me a set of Speedplay pedals years ago and I was converted on the first ride. I found them much easier to use than my previous, one-sided pedals. I hope this acquisition will bring benefits to the consumer. I am interested to watch how this develops.

  2. keith

    I’ve used Speedplay’s for years. Love them!

  3. Jeff

    Didn’t see that one coming. Hopefully Wahoo can take these great pedals to the next level.

  4. James Clarke

    As someone who is committed hard to the aesthetic beauty of both Speedplay pedals and Cannondale hollowgram cranks, even a glimmer of a possibility of a powermeter option is welcome.

  5. Roberto Quinones

    I’m a Speedplay fan and if they ever come out with their own pedal based power meter, I would definitely jump in. Come on Wahoo make it happen!

  6. Nick

    Happy to see Speedplay getting some support. Garmin would have bought Speedplay if they didn’t use ‘Kona Count’ to predict market demand.

  7. StephenB

    Eurobike 2021 – Wahoo SpdPly power-meter pedals.

    You heard it here first folks! 🙂

  8. Dolan Halbrook

    Anything that makes it easier to keep using Speedplays is good news IMO.

  9. Bikeman

    If Speedplay can add accurate power reading to their pedals, it could really shake up the industry. I’m not a fan of Look style pedals or crank based power meters so having Speedplay as an option would be hard to pass up.

  10. Ihsan

    “Easy to work with”??

    I’ll believe it when I see a collaboration with others. Right now their record speaks against them. IMHO of course.

    • I’m not sure I follow, are you another company trying to do business with them?

      I think if we look at the history of Wahoo as a product company, they’re pretty easy for other companies to work with. After all, they were the first company to have an SDK to control their trainers – which ultimately set the direction for this entire industry.

      That doesn’t mean we (the Royal We) always agree with what Wahoo is doing, nor does that mean they’ll always say Yes. For example, them backtracking on 3rd party CLIMB integration is a good example. Or, ultimately not implementing the Running Dynamics standards in their TICKR straps. I think a case could be made that when it comes to standards, Wahoo’s maybe not quite as strong as they used to be (another example would be lack of FTMS).

      But on the flip side, they did integrate recently Varia Radar, and they’re doing some stuff around the indoor bike and technical broadcasting bits that nobody else is doing (and doing it in an open way).

      Still, I don’t think that the line means Wahoo is always going to say yes in every situation, especially if it hurts their business. I think that’s true of just about any company.

    • PFA

      This was a subtle troll about someone at Speedplay who was rumored to be behind litigiousness, not a comment on Wahoo.

    • Frank-enstein

      Great history here was not aware of SDK.

      Hesitant to jump in b-c I always seem to be piling on Wahoo. But the Climb backtrack always stands out to me as petty. I also view Varia support as indicating GARMIN is easy to work with, not Wahoo. Tho takes 2 to tango.

      Speedplay a MUCH better experience than Keo. Nice development. Assuming the DCR Shimano thesis doesn’t outrun em all !

    • Ihsan

      Yes, my comment was mostly about the standards, and their backtracking.

      The thing that boggles my (emphasis on “my”) mind is how it took them almost two years of consumer pressure to incorporate radar and how it would have hurt their business to allow others (tacx and elite come to mind) incorporate Climb*. That could have only resulted in increased sales, no?

      But you are correct, we are outsiders, and Wahoo does not have to answer to anyone but the shareholders in their business decisions.

      *(or even Zwift for that matter, so that they didn’t have to share anything with other trainer companies)

    • Martin

      Great answer Ray

    • Eli

      “first company to have an SDK to control their trainers” They also didn’t have any good software to control their trainers so let others do that work for them allowing them to sell more trainers. There was no downside.

      “integrate recently Varia Radar” An open Ant+ standard from Garmin they decided to support after a pretty long time of the Ant+ standard being out. Garmin is the one who helped others, they could have kept the broadcast protocol from their radar unit proprietary.

    • Kit Chung

      Looks like Wahoo is a privately held company, meaning there are no shareholders to answer to.

    • Tommy

      To me it’s surprising that they have backtracked on the CLIMB. I would have thought that they would get more sales/revenue from non KICKR owners buying CLIMB. They obviously have run the numbers and worked out they will get more revenue by encouraging people to switch to a full Wahoo ecosystem

  11. Nick H

    one of teh first things they could do it tidy up the instructions/documentation that comes with a set of speedplays – the number of times things are repeated is ludicrous and forces everything to be printed to small, so that they can repeat everything 3 times.
    getting spares is a PITA as well so quite a lot of room for improvement there.
    speedplay PM would be a game-changer

  12. David E.

    “It doesn’t sound like Speedplay will need to lose any vowels in order to stay within the Wahoo branding playbook.”

    Bwahahaha. Maybe the next Wahoo acquisition will be a set of vowels.

  13. DLinLV

    Having Vector 2 (now sold) and currently Vector 3 (with no door/battery/electronics/missing right pedal/etc issues, knock wood) I have considered SP pedals but have too much invested in the Look compatible pedals. And dont want crank/hub power.

    BUT-if Wahoo/SP develops a PM pedal and its as stable as Vector 2, I will be interested in it replacing my V3 as the next step, so to speak. While my customer service issues with Wahoo a few years back drove me to Tacx (actually a great move for me) I am willing to give Wahoo a chance on the pedals.

    Having used SPD on mountain shoes since early 90’s, I would like the SP for road/tri.

  14. James Lowdon

    Speedplay power meter pedals, that’s not something i thought i would hear today. but truly awesome!

    and, hopefully they can re-design the ‘walkable’ cleat covers to not fall off after about ( sorry, ‘exactly’ ) 1,000km.

    would seem an odd purchase for Wahoo unless there was some tech principle to apply, so i’ll start saving up now.

    • Dolan Halbrook

      I’ve been using these things for several years: link to keeponcovers.com and the only time one ever came off was during a slow-speed crash in a circuit race. They work very well, and are pretty inexpensive to boot.

    • B. Silva

      I’ve been using the Keep On Covers too. I use the X-2 pedals. Speedplay doesn’t make walkable cleats for the X nor do I think they ever will; the X is a legacy pedal and I’m just happy I can still buy them. I’ll stockpile a few extra soon as I have a sense Wahoo will eliminate. I would imagine that Zeros or LA work fine for 99% of Speedplay users.

    • Jack Hunter

      Fall off? – never had this happen but have a seen a few people who haven’t attached them properly in the first place

      Just saying

    • Eagle Jackson

      Yep, just as I sensed, Wahoo has eliminated the X and Frogs. Glad I have some extras

  15. Larry

    “But it was actually when he as a triathlete, went to pick out a pair on Speedplay’s website that everything went a bit fuzzy – with so many options to choose from and so little clarity about which was the best option.”

    I’ve been using Speedplay pedals for years and this statement is 100% correct. I think they mostly succeeded in business in spite of themselves. Certainly acquisition shouldn’t have been needed to clean-up their marketing and product line, but maybe it was. The other comment about their instructions is also accurate, however I’ve purchased several Wahoo products over the years and always thought their directions were pretty bad as well. Always noticed an aversion to using helpful diagrams rather than just words. Maybe that has gotten better.

  16. Aar

    I’ve loved Speedplay’s products since their first “X-series” pedal. For me the jury is still out on Wahoo – love some products while others just seem “meh” which does not mean bad to me.

    Bottom line is that I’ll continue to ride Speedplay Zero pedals as long as they remain as purely and simply functional as they are today. Any power meter they add will need to display vector mapping, like Pioneer, on a Garmin bikecomputer

  17. Anirudh

    Maybe Wahoo can help Speedplay improve their gravel pedals (Syzr). That would be ironic but very welcome.

    • Larry

      I think you’re onto something. SYZR already is a Wahoo like name. It’s probably what caught their attention.

    • davie

      Syzr are innovative, however challenge is price I think.

      In Australia:
      Shimano SPD cleats are $10-$15, cheap M520 pedals for $40
      Speeplay Syzr cleats are $90. cheap Chromo pedals are $250

      Sure, some people (like me) need lots of float.

      But 5 or 6 times the price of its competitor?

  18. Arig

    I’m a Speedplay user for life most likely, unless someone can come to market with a pedal with more float and more ease of entry. That said, it has become more and more aggravating to find replacement cleats and parts. Hopefully this will improve that side of the experience and not just mean their rpad pedal line is reduced to indoor cycling accessories. I did notice that every glamour shot of the Wahoo Bike showed Speedplay pedals…

  19. Pete

    I’ve been using speedplay for years and was on the original Brim bros. waiting list. I would love to see Wahoo finish the work that Barry and co started. Brim were near before they folded but given the size of Wahoo you would expect the the R&D spend to be available to do a good job and package more effectively. I have no clue where the Brim brothers Zone DPMX IP resides but it would be good if Wahoo somehow took profit of that R&D and covered some of the Brimbrother’s investment. It needed to be worked on and I never liked the pod that sat on the shoe with the Zone DPMX. Times have moved on and I see no reason why that could not now be built into the wearable rubber cleat.

  20. John G

    Glad to see this, and hopefully Wahoo will broaden the range into PM pedals. I’ve been using Speedplay road pedals since the 90s, and converted from SPD to Syzr pedals about a year and a half ago for mtn/gravel/cross. They are such a stable platform and allow for a great amount of float–I’m not looking back.

  21. Matt

    Favero seems like an easy partnership to produce a speedplay version of the assioma. Change the end of the axel to match speedplay’s design and license the body from wahoo. All the electronics are in the “pod” so probably shouldn’t have to change… should only take as long as it takes the lawyers to argue about the 💰

  22. DJ

    I experienced the “being aggressively litigious” attitude from Speedplay, I was selling some Speedplay cleats on eBay awhile back and Speeplay had my little auction ad thrown out completely. My crime was using a photo of theirs which illustrates all of the individual pieces of the cleats,

  23. Ben

    Hey Wahoo, please don’t retire my beloved Frog pedals or I might have to disown you 😉

    Seriously, I love those things. However old the design is (and this is coming from someone who loves everything new and shiny).

  24. Dave

    First Sufferfest. Then SpeedPlay. Who do you think is next, Ray? Suunto maybe?

  25. davie

    I think Wahoo is playing with fire here. They have purchased the SINGLE MOST DANGEROUS PRODUCT EVER MADE in the history of the universe.

    I justify this 100% factual statement by presenting Speedplays ridiculous and verbose disclaimer paperwork which comes with every product they sell.

    For one set of cleats I purchased, I counted 3 separate paper documents containing over 50 WARNING’s CAUTION’s and DANGER statements. Copious amount of BOLD TEXT and UNDERLINED text everywhere. These things are seemingly designed to kill, maim and destroy people.

    You think I’m joking? Read just one example from speedplays own website –> link to speedplay.com

    Wahoo – here is how you can turn speedplay around:
    1) Fire the lawyers
    2) Fire the hostile customer support
    3) Fire the lawyers
    4) Fire the hostile product reps
    5) Fire the terrible web page designers
    7) Fire the lawyers
    Start from scratch with slimmed down product line, a coherent web site and decent customer service.

    • Matthew

      Had a read. I take it as advice so you don’t make an error fitting them or similar. Over tighten screws, un removable bearings, dirt, oil,maintenance etc. Not sure how it will kill or maim, but ok. Do agree on the website though pretty old looking. I had good experience with them when I needed to replace a damaged dust cap. Just sent out a replacement free of charge. No problem. I thought I was going to nothing but problems trying to get one. I was pleased with that. I do find the replacement cleats quite expensive. And the recommended replacement interval too short. They last longer. I just thought that was a business thing to gouge money from your wallet.

    • davie

      After being recommended speedplays due to knee issues, I was very excited to have a solution to the pain.

      They are great pedals and I love their design and float. But It took me days to work out exactly which product I should buy and why. That is a huge entry barrier to new customers.

      I also find their replacement parts are expensive.

      Attempting to decipher their website…
      Frog vs Syzr. why sell both? So… I guess these are for gravel or MTB or both?
      X series vs Zero vs light action? ok, makes sense I guess, sort of…
      x series not compatible with Zero? Sure, ok then, why? Why still sell x series?
      Zero are incompatible with Light action. Well, turns out in practice that statement is not true at all. Why make such a statement?
      Zero stainless ARE interchangeable with Zero chromo. ok, sure, great.
      Light action stainless NOT interchangeable with Light Action chromo. ok then… why bother with the extra SKU?
      Zero track are not compatible with Zero? its hard to tell… why is this?

      What shoes are are compatible… hmmm their downloadable list is confusing as anything.

      So much opportunity for Wahoo here.

    • PFA

      Read the quoted portions of the press release. The lawyer “will depart the business.” You can probably post pictures of your pedals on eBay now.

    • Matthew

      Frog vs Szyr: Frog has no moving parts in the cleat (and is well loved by commuters/random eyes/tourists), Szyr has stronger retention for racers.

      Why still sell X series? Because people who find a pedal they like tend to want to keep buying it. It’s like why Gillette still sells the Mach 3 even though they’d rather sell you the Fusion (which is newer and has more tech).

      Zero is incompatible with Light Action. Sure, you can shove a Light Action cleat onto a Zero pedal, but it doesn’t release as reliably.

      Light Action has several SKUs because of the different spindle materials. Some people want the additional strength of chromoly steel, or need the stronger spindle because of rider weight limits.

      Zero Track is different from Zero because track cyclists tend to have much more power at the cranks, and because they are riding on fixed gear bicycles an accidental cleat release could result in significant injury. So Speedplay makes a pedal that has a much, much higher cleat release setting that is incompatible with the regular pedal, even if they look similar from the pedal body.

    • Ben

      Mach 3? I’m still using Sensor Excel blades with only (gasp) 2 blades.

      Oh yeah – and please don’t take away my Frogs!

    • B. Silva

      Frog has more float than Syzr. Frog float is 20 degrees to release point, 6 degrees to the inside. Syzr has 10 degrees of float.

  26. Scott Walker

    I have known Richard Bryne since 1970…my mentor my friend and one of the people in the industry I have always admired. He knows more about bikes than anyone I know. Wahoo are good folks…I hope this is good for all concerned.

  27. morey

    the next Wahoo bike computer… will look like an oreo and come in different colors.

  28. martin

    I am pumped about this. I’ve been using Speedplay pedals for a long time and have really wanted a power meter version. This will hopefully make it easier to get cleats and parts for rebuilding.

  29. Sébastien Gagné

    I might switch pedals back when they’ll release the Wahoo SPDPLAY power meter pedals 🙂

    It has a nice kind of ring without the EE.

  30. As a long-time, dedicated, Speedplay user this is HUGE NEWS! Can’t wait to see what’s in store for Speedplay under Wahoo’s ownership.

  31. Patrick

    i’ve long been interested in speedplay pedals but it seems to me their weight and aero advantages disapear as in order to use them with most shoes you need adapter plates which add weight, frontal area, stack height and complexity (on top of all the model options), all while reducing walkability.

    if they were directly compatible with standard shoe mounting designs (or could persuade my favoured brands to support their interface) i would probably be riding them, but i’m not.

    • davie

      Best solution I’ve found to this are northwave shoes with their proprietary speedway adaptor which converts their 3 hole shoes to 4 hole speedplay style without adding any stack height.

      But, I had to spend time messing about with the adaptor and then do a hack to make them work with the newer aero/walkable cleats. It worked well in the end but was a pain getting there.

    • John

      You’re over egging it a bit and worrying about nothing when it comes to aero and stack height on a Speedplay cleat.
      First up, the adapter plates come with the pedals and are nothing more than very thin pieces of plastic, hardly blocks of Lego, and weigh next to nothing. The energy gels and bars you carry in your pockets weigh more.

      Secondly, the aero perfornance you gain or lose from any cleat is barely worth worrying about. Again, if youre so worried about 0.001 watts of aero loss from a ‘slightly raised’ cleat then tuck your elbows in when you ride and save 2 watts instead.

      You’re missing the point about Speedplays which is they rarely cause knee pain or pull ligaments.

    • Su-Chong Lim

      I also have Northwave Shoes, with the low stack 3hole to 4hole adaptor, but my point would be, to achieve all of Speedplay’s advantages (low weight, low stack, ease of use once you’ve trawled through their unnecessarily confusing documentation) it seems you really have to get through a minefield of obstacles — the overwhelming majority of shoes are 3 hole, requiring a thick kludgy adaptor to fit the Speedplay cleat, which defeats one of the main advantages.

      Also, I’m not sure I’d hold my breath waiting for a successful SP Power meter. Why did Metrigear give up on SP? Were the technical challenges too great? And I really feel sorry for Brim Brothers — I was rooting for them and was really sad when they folded after all that work. But even if they had succeeded, their vision was with a component that added considerable stack height to the pedal-pm-cleat-shoe combination. In this day and age, a PM will have to have unmatched advantages, and with SP it would have to be without adding stack height. I really don’t see how they are going to do it. Strain Gauge in the pedal spindle, maybe? That’s awful tight for space, and I understand the engineering and mathematical problems are huge; but then computing power and knowledge both progress steadily over time, so maybe I should retain an open mind.

  32. B. Silva

    I’ve been using Speedplays since they first came out with the X. I had been using Time pedals as my knee needs float to ride pain free. The free float of the Speedplays was a game changer for me, and I’ve stuck with them since.

    When I read “simplify” I fear that means eliminating the X. I still ride the X’s because they have more float than the Zero or Light Action. My knee can tell the difference unfortunately. I say unfortunately because it’s clear the X is a legacy product that Speedplay isn’t investing in and probably would like to eliminate but there are some oldies like me that stick with them. For example, the walkable cleats — which are really nice — are only for the Zero and Light Action. Of course, if/when the PM pedal comes out, I would imagine it’ll be Zero/LA based.

    I used the Frogs for years on my mtb (I ride flats now) and my road bike as a touring pedal. Indeed I used the Frogs as my every day road pedal for some number of years, but went back to the X’s a few years ago. I get the sense that the Frogs are also a legacy pedal, maybe to be eliminated as a simplification move.

    In any case, I applaud the acquisition of Speedplay by Wahoo. Wahoo is more open minded company. Speedplay has been litigious; they don’t have their own PM pedal and blocked others from creating a Speedplay based one. As someone else in this thread said, it seems Speedplay has succeeded in spite of itself. They have a superior product; hopefully now they will have a superior owner and business.

    • Eric A

      I totally agree with B. Silva’s comments below. I have been a Frog person since the previous Magnum pedals and use them for all my bikes. They are probably a legacy product that will have a limited lifespan within Wahoo’s ownership. I tried the SYZR and found it a compromise to a SPD with the front entry and came off my bike quickly.
      The litigious personality of Speedplay, I have experienced with eBay auctions and in fact I make fun of them in my listings. Somehow their company became this way probably through the desires of its previous owners. This has carried out into their customer service, that they are above everyone else. On the other hand Wahoo customer service has been one of the best experiences I have had. Now on my 5th KICKR 18, the only reason I have not dumped the KICKR is the customer service. (I think I have a good one now) I look forward to the Wahoo experience with the Speedplay product. I better stock up on Frogs’s though or switch to their road pedals.

      n any case, I applaud the acquisition of Speedplay by Wahoo. Wahoo is more open minded company. Speedplay has been litigious; they don’t have their own PM pedal and blocked others from creating a Speedplay based one. As someone else in this thread said, it seems Speedplay has succeeded in spite of itself. They have a superior product; hopefully now they will have a superior owner and business.

    • B. Silva

      I think we’ll both need to stock up on X’s and Frogs.

    • Ben

      If Wahoo want to dump their stock of titanium Frogs for $100 a piece, then I’ll take them all!

    • Dave Lusty

      You’re on your 5th Kickr and you THINK you have a good one and that’s a company you want to support?

      No wonder this industry cares so little for quality. I had one Kickr that vibrated like a rabbit due to shitty manufacturing tolerances and poor QC and immediately returned it to buy a Tacx (which has minor issues of its own due to shitty firmware and poor QC).

      These are premium products that cost WAY more than they need to because they are premium products. If number two doesn’t work we need to stop dealing with the company or they’ll never change. An ability to quickly swap out units is a result of practice swapping out units. That’s not good customer service, that’s an investment in the wrong part of the manufacturing process/supply chain. Imagine if they spent that money on quality control instead of swapping out units endlessly until you THINK you get a good unit…

  33. O.Tan

    Speedplay Powr incoming!

  34. Davis F

    It seems to be hard, if not impossible to get a power meter for a product like a Cobb crankset on a TT bike, with a Speedplay pedal. I would be first in line!

  35. Nate Mach

    I hope they take the SYZR MTB pedal back to the drawing board.

    They can keep the name though, it’s very WAHOOish.

  36. russell groves

    no comment

  37. Do you have the bicycle which implemented these pedals? I want to see how it looking on.

  38. Eric

    Unfortunately I’m stuck with speedplay since any other pedal causes my knee to burst into flames after a few hours. I say unfortunately because they are insanely costly to use. Every year the cost of cleats keeps going up and up. To add insult to injury, even if I replace the cleats every few thousand miles, the pedal body wears down and I end up with lateral rocking. Despite this being a very well known problem, speedplay refuses to acknowledge it. I switched to the ridiculously over priced pave, and at least the pedal can survive a season or two now without the pedal body wearing out. I really hope wahoo can make some changes to the design, or at the least make things more affordable for real world users. Even 10years ago almost everyone I knew was on speedplay, now I am pretty much the only one and the reason everyone left was cost of cleats/maintenance. If I had any other option, I would have left as well.

    • Randell Cox

      What model are you riding? I’ve put tens of thousands of miles on a pair a Zeros. Only replaced the cleats once.

    • David

      I’m old school Speedplay. I have X-2 series pedals on my bikes. Some of the pedals are 10+ years old with over 20,000 miles of use. I buy a set set of cleats once a year. If a power meter pedal comes to be I’ll switch over to the Zero since I feel certain that it is the preferred platform, personally I viewed as adding complexity to stop whining about “too much float” or “slipping on banana peels”.

    • I have used Speedplay zero pedals for more than 20 years and I am still using the same pedals. Changing the cleats every 10000 km is fine for me. Best pedals ever!

      I hope Wahoo’s aqusition won’t affect quality and availability negatively.

    • Jon

      I was just rooting around on the web trying to find Syzr cleats. Speedplay’s web site says, “This product is currently not available. At this time, future availability has not been determined.” I haven’t been able to find any of my usual internet retailers carrying the cleats. Maybe this is a temporary situation due to Wahoo’s purchase and the current COVID-19 situation.

  39. agzand

    I hope this will result in more Speedplay specific shoes. Currently there are no mid level shoes with Speedplay soles.

  40. Jake

    I love my speedplay zeros and lwould love a power meter option

  41. Randell Cox

    Unexpected? Yes. Exciting? Absolutely! I use Speedplay pedals exclusively. While I’ve wanted a pedal-based power solution for years it hasn’t been enough to get me off Speedplay pedals.

  42. Robert

    Been awhile since this went down and I am bummed to report that the Speedplay supply chains is drying up, especially for spindle parts and cleat protection plates. Speedplay was a fitters dream because of the sensible parts that allowed adjustment. If we lose that I am afraid of where the path could lead.

    • I actually talked with Wahoo about exactly this, this week. They say that existing retailers should continue to be able to place order for parts as normal.

      Whereas, they aren’t accepting new retailers quite yet under the Wahoo side of the house for Speedplay bits (while also not accepting new Speedplay dealers either). It’s in somewhat of a transition period, but I asked exactly what you noted and they seemed pretty clear that existing retailers should have no issue placing orders and having those being fulfilled.

    • Robert

      Thanks for the update, that’s good news, I agree a transition seems to be in progress

    • Robert

      Thanks for the update, that’s good news

    • Liam

      Ray hi!
      Not sure if this situation has changed much since you shared the start of the year update.
      However after looking for a few spare pedal parts across several online retailers, stock seems very low across the board.
      As an example, Excel Sports in Boulder, used to be my go to store for everything, but they only have 11 items listed, when normally there would be 75+.
      Any insight you can offer would be great

    • CowRob

      Wahoo support was able to help me find cleats. Maybe they can help you? If nothing else, it lets them know how many people are searching for parts and product. The longer they have parts and product off the market, the harder it’s likely to be after they start up to get people back.

    • Liam

      Thanks Rob.

      The feedback, together with that from James is encouraging.

      I’ll also email wahoo, to hopefully add more momentum

    • Liam Winston

      On a positive note, received an update from Wahoo today:

      We are planning on having these items though with manufacturing and available through our retailers in the next 6-8 weeks.

      This was for spare parts for Zeros, but hopefully there’ll be lot more stock all round.

    • David

      They’ve been saying that for weeks/months though. I am not holding out much hope to get any spare parts for my Frog pedals anymore.

    • Nick

      I have Frogs on my commuter bike and Light Actions on my road bike and love them both, however there are no pedals, cleats, cleat covers or any other part for either system anywhere in the UK that I can find.

      As excited as I am at the possibility of PM Speedplay pedals, I am also very frustrated at the lack of support for older products; this makes me wary of investing further in Speedplay unless I feel that the spares situation is improved.

  43. Robert C

    The thing that sucks for me, is that the only dealer/reseller in our area went out of business, and I haven’t been able to convince any of the other shops to carry them. I know there are lots of people that use them.

    The shops reason is probably a familiar one: ‘Why should I work to be a ‘registered’ dealer of theirs, when Amazon can sell them all day, and they apparently aren’t a registered dealer’. I explained that there could be quality, and counterfeit issues with buying from Amazon, but they aren’t willing to bend. One said that Speedplay had/has onerous reseller requirements.

    My hope is that Wahoo gets Speedplay into more shops, and maybe ends the Amazon deal (unlikely). I need more cleats for new shoes, and new pedals for a new bike, and have had to use my old SPD-SL’s in the interim.

    And it does look like they have killed some models, possibly. Not sure…

  44. Cory

    Has there been any more hints at a speedplay based power meter pedal? Looking at my next bike and not really wanting to transfer my Stages LR over.

    • Robert

      Just an opinion, given the current challenging business environment, I would expect most smart manufacturers to pause projects and conserve cash for now. I would observe that projects like consolidate wahoo and speedlay websites, or even update speedplay’s website have not happened yet. I would also observe that a pass has been made before at speedplay power pedals that did not happen. Most of the power pedal efforts to date have been rather bulky affairs(Garmin and powertap come to mind) without the advantages of speedplays. So… if you are thinking new bike I would hope for new power pedals, but plan on something else for power.

  45. RHP

    I’m just reading this months later, but I’d surely be interested in Speedplay pedals with a power meter! I’ve been riding Speedplay since 2000; these days I have multiple sets (for multiple bikes). I’m just getting into power as a metric for my cycling because of a trainer. Seems a great next step–to get a power meter for road rides, etc.

  46. Kelly A Peterson

    Keep the Frog in the lineup! One of the best high performance and racing mtb pedals ever made. Clears debris, mud, dirt, snow on its own and the design has the shoe engaging the pedal, not vice versa. Long live the Frog!

    • Nick

      I agree – I’ve had Frogs on my commuter bike for years and love them but they’ve completely disappeared from the UK, and so have the Light Actions on my road bike

  47. Mauri Galvez

    Been using Speedplay since ’92, owned a running & triathlon store near Stanford and they offered me a pair and I was hooked!! No more knee pain, and attempting to align my Look cleats!!

    The “float” took a little getting used to, but only a few rides. My customers all fell in love with them, too. Had friends and team members winning Wildflower, New Zealand and more on them.

    As I’m now in my early 60s living/riding on Maui (using titanium Xs on my S-Works Tarmac) I’ve been researching PMs & was just ready to go 4iiii on FSA Supercompact Carbon (everything around here is CLIMBING) but if there’s a chance I could go SP pedals w/PM I’m all over them!! Any potential timing available? Months or years?


  48. Stacy

    Please, please, please get Wahoo to include Speedplay X pedals!!! They are the best!!!

  49. James Lay

    Wahoo has canceled Speedplay Frogs! My go-to pedals for at least 15 years. :^( I don’t think they have any others in their lineup that combine substantial free-float and walkability. Hope they can fill that segment – my knees will thank them!

    • CowRob

      Wow! They dropped a lot of models.

      I never got the ‘x’ and ‘zero’ issue. Having two that were practically identical, but incompatible didn’t make a lot of sense. I heard a few locals that got the wrong cleats occasionally. I’m sure it happened too often. I did see a pair of Pave pedals. They looked so elegant. They are gone too…

      Maybe some dealers somewhere have some Frogs left. Maybe Wahoo will reconsider. The message isn’t ‘They are permanently gone’ but it does sound grave.

      I’m sure Wahoo is going through looking at past sales, and what they consider market needs, and trying to see what makes sense. I sound so meh because I have so many different pedal brands around here. Even one pair that was cancelled, that was supposed to be SPD compatible. Yeah, not much, and I lost the matching cleats!

    • Ben

      Couldn’t agree more. Sad, but predictable. Wahoo don’t want to make a niche pedal, however much it is loved. I wonder if they could give the Frogs back to the old Speedplay owner and let them make some money.

      I love the free float of Speedplays, but I really don’t think I can go to a road cleat for the gravel bike. I’d be interested in the SYZR, but that was just a debacle and I still don’t trust that it’s actually a good pedal.

      Did they announce this today as they think everyone is so mad at Strava that they won’t notice? 🙂

  50. Rosario

    I’ve tested a power meter (Assioma) on Look pedals that were lended to me by my bike shop. After that test I’m even more convinced there is no way in hell I’m gonna switch my Speedplay pedals that I’m using for now 4 years to another model. So now I really hope that with Wahoo we will soon have power meters on Speedplay as there is no more comfortable pedals on the market.

  51. Steven Littlewood
  52. C. Phillip Houck

    I have standardized on Speedplay Frog pedals and hopefully, Wahoo will supply spare parts like cleats for the foreseeable future.

    • Eagle Jackson

      I’ve checked a few online sites and they all show Frog cleats currently unavailable. You might need to buy from eBay. I checked eBay and price gouging has hit for newly unavailable Speedplay pedals and cleats. For example, new Frog pedals with cleats offered by one seller for $350 and by another for $500. I saw similar situation with X series. I’d been concerned for a few years that Speedplay would drop these pedals (Frog and X-2) so I have a few spare sets of pedals and cleats. They are what I’ve standardized on too.

      I heard a Cycling Tips podcast this week with the founder of Wahoo who says interesting things are coming for Speedplay pedals soon, so we’ll see what’s in store.

    • Steve Rodkey

      I am finding the same thing. Frog cleats not available anywhere (except maybe ebay). Speedplay website says product is unavailable and may not be available again! Wahoo needs to tell us what is going on before they loose the customers.

  53. Phil Houck

    Yes, I’ve seen outrageous prices for Speedplay pedals and I hope they never sell them. I remember when I was trying to buy a Shimano 10 speed long cage derailleur and some jerk was trying to sell one for $3000. Fortunately I was able to find two of them (both in use presently) for $90 each. There are still come good people in this world. Maybe Wahoo could be one of them.

    • CowRob

      Maybe ask what they did with their old stock? It’s a long shot, but might work. I doubt they buried it in the desert like Apple does.

      I wrote them about finding Zero cleats, and they found someone with some in stock. They were a big help to me in my search. Good luck…

  54. John

    I love Speedplay pedals. What I don’t love is now I have two bike with the pedals and I cannot buy the replacement cleats for the X pedals. My local bike shop said it’s rumored that Wahoo will make one more run of these and then alter the design. Nice move to make us all spend hundreds for pedals that may not need replacement. I get tweeking the pedal and making improvements, but don’t phase out the customers who have been loyal to that style of pedal for years. Introduce your new tech and let us make the move. This would make people love the brand more vs being a bit disgruntled when they can’t find the $40 replacements so they can ride. Just a thought

    • CowRob

      There are some on ebay. One guy wants $175 for a set which is crazy. Yikes…

      I get the idea why their lolly pop pedals weren’t compatible, but why. They are basically the same design. Three, or is it four, slightly different designs, and why. They should have dropped the older designs or somehow made them compatible. Could Wahoo put out an upgrade kit for the X pedals to convert them into Zero pedals? They are ‘rebuildable’, right?

      Amazon has knockoff Zero cleats, which I thought was funny. I wonder if they are better. Maybe the same company knocking them off, could be coerced into doing the X cleats too.

  55. James R Lay

    I have a request into Wahoo. Their customer support site has an option for Speedplay support and Frogs are listed there. We’ll see what happens. Thought I’d at least get a plug in for my favorite pedals.

    • James Lay

      Encouraging e-mail from Wahoo:

      Thank you for reaching out to us, I’m sorry that you’ve run into difficulty locating some Frog cleats for yourself.

      What I can share with you is that we are working on getting more on the market. While I don’t have an exact ETA available to share with you, we will have have more available soon. I would recommend keeping in touch with your local Speedplay retailers, we should also have them available through Competitive Cyclist, Colorado Cyclist and Excel Sports. We’re working on it and appreciate your patience!

    • Dave Christilles

      Tyler Hamilton gave Speedplay a huge head start when he finished the 2003 Tour in 4th place (With a broken collar bone) riding Speedplay. I installed them on my bike and have never moved to another pedal. The X Series are the best when it comes to float. The cleats have a somewhat short life but for those of us who want to ride and have a knee issue, there is no suitable replacement. I have done hundreds of bike fits and if someone hints at knee issues, I put them on Speedplay. The problems more often than not simply go away. I want more replacement cleats for my X Series and would like to get some new X Series later this year. I really hope Wahoo continues to make these Legacy pedals.

    • B Silva

      I use Keep On Kovers with my X cleats. That way the plastic cover touches the ground not the metal of the cleat, extending the life.

    • Dave Christilles

      Thanks for your note, B Silva! The problem I run into with my X Series cleats are the spring bars that lock into the pedal. They rub against the lock point on the pedal and a flat spot wears into the spring. Once ti wears enough, the spring breaks. Where the cleat touches the ground gets some wear though it is never the cause of the cleat being replaced.

    • B Silva

      Got it, thanks. I’ve had the spring bars break a few times over the years. When I travel I bring a spare pair of cleats. I hope Wahoo will make X cleats available.

    • Dave Christilles

      I agree and would like to get a couple of new pair of pedals!

    • B Silva

      I have a few extra set of pedals and cleats that I bought over the past 5 or so years as I had this sense that the X were legacy pedals that Speedplay would stop making. I much prefer the X over the Light Action and Zeroes. Similarly I have some extra Frogs and cleats that I bought for the same reason.

    • Matt

      I’m really grateful you shared this information. If you have any updates, please post here too.

  56. Andrew Lee

    I’ve been using Speedplay on my road and mountain bikes for over 20 years. Now I need a new pair of Frog cleats and I can’t find any! I’m seeing that they’re discontinued and I’m very disappointed. I guess I’m gonna have to find another brand to be loyal to… Any suggestions for pedals with similar features?

  57. Andrew Lee


    After teading quite a few comments, it sounds like people are pretty disappointed and you’re well on your way to messing this up. I have 5 bikes and 3 pairs of shoes with Speedplay pedals and cleats. Loyalty means alot to me and many others. Please maintain support for your loyal customers and family.

    Thanks, Andrew

  58. al young

    Wahoo made a HUGE mistake discontinuing Speedplay Frogs. Frogs are GREAT pedals – way better than SPD. Frogs were never marketed well. If Frogs were marketed and displayed in bike shops, they would take over the entire SPD market.

    Bring back the FROGS!!

    • Ben

      Agreed that Frogs weren’t marketed well. They work great, though I will say that they look kinda ugly. With a little TLC and marketing, they could have been a hugely popular option.

      I bought bearing replacement kits for both my sets. I’m hoping to keep them running for as long as possible.

      Here’s hoping that Speedplay have a least 1 more production run!

    • B Silva

      I agree they look kinda ugly. Big and chunky. But they work great.

  59. Dave Christilles

    Will you continue to manufacture the original X Series pedal? I have been on those pedals for 20 years and prefer to not go to the Light Action or the Zeros. Those options simply do not have the float available in the X Series.

  60. Matt

    I sure wish that while they are working out what to do with this business that they would continue to sell cleats for Speedplay Frogs. I’ve got them on 3 different bikes and can’t find cleats anywhere.

    • Ben

      Agreed! 5 more sets of cleats would keep me going a long time.

      For anyone that is interested, you can buy bearing replacement kits for the Frogs on eBay. They are a very easy pedal to service. I’m hoping I can keep my existing Frogs running until the cleats or cleat interface is too worn.

      However, if Wahoo do a final production run, then I’ll buy a at least 2 new pairs of pedals.