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Polar Loop First Thoughts: Actually a Whoop Competitor?

For the past 18 months, Polar has been making steps towards a Whoop competitor. Back in May 2024, they announced the Polar 360, which was a business version of such a device, aimed primarily at healthcare scenarios and workplace/wellness entities. Then, earlier this summer they announced it’d be coming to consumers on September 3rd. At the time, it lacked a name, or many details, but, they did commit to it requiring no subscription.

Now, we find ourselves with all the details, albeit, perhaps not the details we wanted.

The new consumer-focused version of the Polar 360 is called the Polar Loop (the same name the company used back in 2013 for a related wearable band). The new Polar Loop is virtually identical in every way to the existing Polar 360. Same sensor package, same internal hardware, same app, and same features.

In fact, there’s only two minor differences:

1) The Polar Loop has a metal clasp/shell (with various colors), versus plastic on the Polar 360
2) Polar slightly expanded the internal battery to get an additional 1-2 days of battery life compared to the Polar 360

That’s both good and bad, as I’d find out. I’ve been using the Polar 360 for a bit now, in preparation for switching over to the Polar Loop. Effectively, the only difference to my daily life would be a different color shell and a few extra days of battery life. Akin to going from a 41mm Apple Watch to a 45mm Titanium Apple Watch. Thus, making my review process faster.

Except, before you jump on the anti-Whoop train, we need to talk about where the differences are. Because they are vast, and very real.

The Tech Details:

(Above, the Polar 360, which Polar has confirmed is identical to the Polar Loop, except for a slightly bigger battery and non-plastic casing)

First up, there’s some tech bits to talk through. Though, frankly you can sum-up this entire band with:

– Small 29g band with no display (just like Whoop)
– Polar’s Precision Prime optical HR sensor
– Battery life of 8 days
– Comes in three color options
– Price: $199USD, 179EUR, 149GBP
– No subscription cost, everything is included
– Extra band color options priced at $29/19EUR/15GBP

See, that’s what you wanted to know. Oh, here’s the band options:

PolarLoop Colorways.

Now, some of you are more detail-oriented, and want a bunch more bits. Thus, here you go, with a giant pile of hardware specs first:

• Colors: Greige Sand, Night Black, Brown Copper
• Size: 42 x 27 x 9 mm
• Weight: 29 g total (19,5 g without wristband / 9,5 g wristband)
• Water resistance: 30 m
• Operating temperature: -10°C to +50°C
• Charging: USB-C, rechargeable battery
• Battery life: Up to 8 days standard use
• Connectivity: Bluetooth 5.1, USB-C
• Processor: 64 Mhz
• Memory: 1.3MB
• Storage: 16MB
• Battery: Li-Pol 170 mAh
• Sensors: Precision Prime Optical HR, accelerometer
• Battery Replaceable: Yes
• Price: EUR 179 / GBP 149 / USD 199

Oh, and here’s the other band colors:

And then when it comes to a software features standpoint, here’s all the Polar software features it supports. That said, don’t get too distracted by all the bright colorful names below. I’ll distill what actually matters in a second.

– Daily: 24/7 Activity Tracking: Steps, distance, calories, active time
– Daily: Activity Benefit
– Daily: Inactivity Alerts
– Daily: Heart Rate Monitoring: Real-time, average, and Max HR
– Daily:  Continuous HR Tracking throughout day
– Daily: Activity Goal: Daily targets
– Sleep: Nightly Recharge: Overnight recovery measurement
– Sleep: Sleep Plus Stages: Light, Deep, and REM sleep phase tracking
– Sleep: SleepWise: Predicts daytime alertness
– Sleep: Sleep Gate (optimal bedtime window)
– Sleep: HRV Tracking
– Sleep: ANS Tracking
– Training: Automatic training detection (or manual)
– Training: Energy Expenditure: Calories burned per session & throughout day
– Training: Training Load Pro
– Training: Tracking with Polar Flow app (including GPS details with app)
– Training: Fitness Test (with Polar Flow app)
– Training: Voice Guidance (with Polar Flow app)
– Platform: Full access to Polar Flow (web-desktop/smartphone)
– Platform: API & SDK connectivity included (e.g. to Strava, Komoot, etc…)

Now, I do want to circle back to the new Polar Flow platform/app coming soon, but let’s first talk about how the Polar Loop’s functionality, then talk about the upcoming (but not yet available) Polar Flow revamp.

Day to Day Activity & Sleep Metrics:

So let’s just work our way through a typical day with the band. Note that in my case I’m using the release candidate firmware and app that’ll go public with the Polar Loop. Thus, while things might change very slightly, don’t expect much to change significantly in the next week or two, given the Polar 360 has already been in the market for nearly a year now.

In any case, waking up you’ll see your sleep metrics within the Polar Flow app. The app is identical to the existing Polar Flow app. You can see my sleep times, sleep phases, HRV metrics, etc…

Now, to Polar’s credit, they willingly admitted the existing Polar Flow app is ‘not awesome’ (to paraphrase a long presentation section on it). Thus, what you see above is the production iOS app. Soon, an updated Android app will be available with a revamped user interface. That will bring things closer to their goal state next year. Then, later this year the iOS app will get a similar Phase 2 revamp. Here’s a couple of screenshots provided by Polar on what this will look like:

PolarFlow Phase2.

You’ll notice things like HRV status are now brought forward much more prominently, versus being buried deep in other metrics. It definitely looks a lot better than before, though, does fall a bit short of the type of revamp that I think is really needed to compete with Whoop here (a company that I disagree with on lots of things, but I think their app is excellent at surfacing information in easy to understand ways).

As you can see above, that looks fantastic. So much better than before. But that’s really only the start.

(One important note: Everything from here on out is concept art. It’s not real…yet. And thus, probably will be different in it’s final form.)

After that, Polar’s going to move into Phase 3, and that looks even better. Finally!

Polar Flow Phase3.

Here you can see the onboarding process:

PolarFlowVNext 1.

Then we’ve got the ability to customize the tiles that you want to see:

PolarFlowVNext 2.

And here’s a bit more on down-the-road bits:

PolarFlowVNext 3.

Overall, I really like the looks of this. Though, when exactly we’ll see it remains to be seen.

PolarFlowVNext 4.

In any case, moving along back to the Polar Loop. Note that there is no wakeup alarm functionality on the Polar device. That’s still in the realm of your other devices (phone, other watch, Cuckoo clock, etc…).

Now, throughout the day it’ll track your steps/activity, just like other Polar devices. You won’t see flights of stairs though, as it has no altimeter in there. This is an area where Polar’s UI is quite far behind virtually all their competitors (in talking about basic activity tracking). For example, I can’t tap/click on any of those metrics at the bottom to see those charted over longer periods of time, etc…

Ok, with those basics out of the way, let’s step it up.

Training & Workouts:

Next, let’s go do a workout. The Polar Loop/360 will automatically detect the act of a workout, though, will not detect what type of workout it is. Thus, all workouts detected are simply classified as ‘Other Indoor’. This is a massive difference to Whoop, which will detect whether it’s road cycling, indoor cycling, mountain biking, and a gazillion other workout types.

In Polar’s case, there’s a (very important) slide that lets you tweak the sensitivity of the workout detection algorithm. You can see it below:

The idea behind this is to find balance for when it triggers to start recording a workout in the background. Polar says the thresholds are roughly as follows:

High: Training is only recorded when you’re doing vigorous activities, such as running, skiing, or other high-intensity sports.

Medium (default): Activities like a brisk walk or light jog are enough to start recording.

Low: Even light activity, such as leisurely walking or doing household chores, can trigger training recording.

But wait, there’s more! I do appreciate how often Polar comes back with tons of details, as is the case here. Here’s even more details on how/when/what/why it triggers:

For a training session to be automatically recorded, it must meet certain duration and intensity requirements.

· Duration: The activity must last at least 10 minutes to be saved as a workout.

· Intensity: Your heart rate and activity need to reach and maintain certain levels:

To start tracking, your heart rate must exceed 50% of your Heart Rate Reserve (HRR) — the difference between your maximum and resting heart rates. This typically means the activity should fall within Heart Rate Zone 1 or higher.

To keep tracking, your heart rate must stay above 25% of your HRR, or alternatively, the device must detect continuous high physical activity via the accelerometer.

Your activity level must reach 6.0 METs (a measure of exercise intensity) or higher to start. Tracking stops when activity drops to 3.0 METs or below, unless your heart rate remains high enough despite low movement. This can happen, for example, when cycling, where your wrist stays almost still while holding the handlebars.

MET examples: 

· MET: Sitting quietly

· 2.5 METs: Walking slowly

· 5.0 METs: Walking briskly

· 9.8 METs: Running at a 10-minute mile pace (6:00 min/km).

· 11.0 METs: Running at 7.0 mph (11 km/h, or about 5:25 min/km)

Note: These intensity values apply to the Medium training intensity setting, which is the default. The thresholds are higher for the High setting and lower for the Low setting.

Now, as much as I love detail, I also love things to ‘just effing work’. And honestly, this just doesn’t work.

In all my testing thus far at different levels, I have yet to capture a single workout correctly. They are either missing entirely, broken into vast chunks with missing pieces, started late, or ending 30-45 minutes after the workout complete. For example, it didn’t track my 30-minute trainer ride at all today. It wasn’t super long, as I was running late to catch a flight – but, nonetheless, it was a workout.

Still, I’ll pause that line of thought to say that Polar says they may have delivered an incorrect firmware to my Polar 360, which may be resulting in my issues. They say that I should wait until the final firmware next week (Sept 10th) to re-test things.

And look, I’ll obviously do that. But at the same time honestly, I remain pretty skeptical about this line of reasoning. With the company saying they’re going to ship in a mere 7 days, I’m kinda surprised that any near-final firmware would be meaningfully different than what comes next week. Activity detection is clearly happening, just not at all very well. In the current state, it’s unusable.

But, let’s set this all aside for a second and pretend it nails the start/times exactly correct. The next challenge is there’s no way to modify any of these sessions. So if I wanted to edit/truncate an automatically detected training/workout, I can’t do that. Inversely, if it misses the first 15-20 minutes of a session (as it does), I can’t simply extend it forward. And if it misses entire sessions (like all of my panel sessions), I can’t do that either.

This is a *massive* difference to Whoop, which not only gets virtually every single workout I have correct down to the minute, but also lets me edit them (longer/shorter/new) in the unlikely event it’s incorrect.

Further, in Whoop’s case, it doesn’t actually matter if it’s categorized as a ‘workout’ or not. It just looks at your heart rate throughout the day and calculates load based on that. Whereas Polar only calculates training load if the workout is detected/manually started as load. Thus, for today’s workout where detection didn’t happen, it sees no load.

I can’t overstate how much of a difference this is. It’s literally like looking at a Boeing jetliner, and a one-person glider (no engine), and saying they’re the same. Yes, they are both airplanes, but that’s kinda where it ends. Again, to be clear – I’m absolutely going to give Polar their chance there, but knowing how it’s supposed to work, it’s already operating at a huge disadvantage to Whoop (even if it works perfectly as Polar plans).

In any event, setting that aside or the moment, here’s the details you get about said workout once completed. Because it doesn’t have GPS in it, you won’t get that data by default.

You can however use the Polar Flow app to create a GPS workout, and then use the sensor from the Polar Loop/360’s heart rate sensor. In this scenario, you get exact control over the activity duration (start/stop times), as well as full GPS tracks that sync to platforms like Strava, TrainingPeaks, and others:

All of this then feeds into the training load bits that you have, identical to that of Polar’s other wearables, which track training load and recovery recommendations. In the case of below, I had no less than 90 minutes of workouts per day every day that week, and some rides upwards of 2.5+ hours. But only the ones Polar detected will show up here (which…umm…isn’t much).

This is where Polar starts to shine. While the current Polar Flow UI is still ‘not beautiful’, I feel it does deliver more factually useful information in the training load/recovery realm than Whoop does. Whoop has their completely silly-ass 0-21 strain system for training load. Meaning that the most training load points you can ever attain in a given day is 21. I’ve covered in my past reviews how broken this is (and why every other company, scientific study, sports device, etc doesn’t use this type of tracking).

Whereas Polar uses a very logical (and widely used) system with TRIMP, that allows you to accumulate as much training load as you’d like (just like real-life human physiology). You can see those cardio load scores below:

Again, all of this is exactly how it works for all other Polar wearables.

Finally, when it comes to accuracy, all of my testing with the Polar 360 (which Polar has repeatedly emphasized is exactly the same sensor, internals, etc…), shows it spot-on. Well, at least once it detects the exercise is occurring. Here’s an interval run I did (including the Whoop MG too), and all were spot-on.

Ride AccuracyRun1.

And here’s another snippet from a gravel ride with a bunch of climbing (auto workout detection stopped as I started descending, ending that activity, so I’ve trimmed this to just be the relevant part). Again, Whoop MG in this set too. Note the colors have changed :

Ride AccuracyHR1.

And these results match my other workouts with it as well.

Going Forward:

Someone at Polar needs to print off a giant banner (like 3 meters long), and hang it up in the office area of whatever product team owns the Polar Loop. That banner will say one thing on it: “Get Activity Detection Right”.

That includes, but is not limited to, nailing down workouts to the minute, and also getting the workout type correct. These two factors are hugely fundamental to Whoop’s success in their wearable. It makes it truly ‘wear and forget’, versus the Polar Loop/360 & AmazFit Helio requiring a fair bit more phone app updating interaction in order to get the same type of data.

Which doesn’t mean that Polar is on the wrong track. There’s a lot of goodness in the Polar ecosystem, from better workout tracing and cardio load tracking, to better recovery metrics, to generally more accurate optical HR sensors, to the fact that it doesn’t have a subscription. That piece alone is huge. But we also can’t let it overshadow the product itself (as some people have on the Amazfit Helio band). Just because it’s positioned as a competitor, doesn’t make it a true replacement. At least, not yet today.

Still, I’m looking forward to testing it out, and seeing where it does fit, and how fast Polar can iterate on it.

With that – thanks for reading!

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34 Comments

  1. Tim

    “xxxGallerySC” placeholder probably isn’t meant to be there…

  2. Nino

    Hi Ray,

    The new app looks great (finally!).
    Any release date, at least cca for the new Android app?

  3. flkncrst

    Would this be any useful if you already have a Polar watch?
    you could turn off the watch for sleep tracking but everything else would be recorded twice

  4. Antonio

    Is this going to feed Apple Health so that can be used frictionless at night instead of Apple Watch?

  5. Craig

    I continue to resist any type of whoop like wearable. I’m not sure they provide anything meaningful that I cannot get from an actual watch with a screen. Obviously a large chunk of folks see the value and are buying them. Maybe I’m just an old man who likes his screen, GPS, relevant workout out functionality, and recovery features in one package.

    • I’m with you on that thought Craig, everything is there with my existing Apple Watch Ultra! There are loads of apps out there trying to make the stats “look like” Whoop with strain etc but I think HRV, sleep and training data is enough to work it out yourself!

    • Pavel Vishniakov

      IMHO it’s not supposed to be your single device, it’s supposed to complement the devices you already have. For example, you might wear the band inconspicuously throughout the day (to collect ambient data / recovery data etc) and only put on the watch for the actual exercise when you would benefit from a display. For some activities you might even keep the band instead of a watch – for example when I’m cycling, I typically have a bike computer, so there’s no need to wear a watch outside of gathering the ambient data. Same goes for hiking – I prefer handhelds for their screen size and longer battery life, but would still like to get HR-related data.

    • Rob

      How about not wanting to spend what, $800 on an AW Ultra, have to charge it every day / every other day, have all the distractions that come with a screen and so much functionality? Some people want all that and are prepared to pay for it, others don’t.

  6. Juan

    Thanks for your Thoughts.
    Will it broadcast to other de ices like Helio Strap?

  7. Rob

    Extending Antonio’s question above, do you know what if any information is read from and written to Apple Health?

  8. Matt

    Any sign of a band usable on the upper arm?

  9. David Keys

    Amazing Rayman!

    Just got the email from Polar and checking the stuff. Ok so same as 360 sensor etc.
    Been following you and QS for a while now and checking comparisons.

    Most accurate data esp cycling, weight lifting as well as HRV, blood oxygen and then sleep score plus ev. apnea warnings since I snore a bit “I’ve heard” ;)

    BUT! Can this one be set to like “offline” and let it track in airplane kind of mode and then sync later?
    I don’t feel good having like BT on all the day every day and during sleep.

    All the best

    • Rui Pereira

      It seems like, they talk about 4 weeks onboard memory for later sync. But I don’t think this sensor measures blood oxygen like you want, it’s an older generation.

  10. Rob

    “there is no wakeup alarm functionality on the Polar device. That’s still in the realm of your other devices” – that seems an odd statement for a sleep tracker, isn’t a use case waking you up once you’ve had enough? Does that mean the hardware has no vibration alert at all, or just that they haven’t implemented the function in software yet?

  11. Kenneth

    Any chance of adding some comments on HR accuracy (eg, vs Verity Sense and H10)? Would be interested to know whether this is now the highest-fidelity subscription-free 24/7 HR tracker on the market. (Using something like the Verity Sense or H10 for 24/7 tracking is very cumbersome.)

  12. Neil

    What if you have a Polar device already that you only want wear for workouts. Do you remove the loop? Do you use the Loops HR, or will Flow know to identify a duplicate and not double your load etc?

  13. King Bradley

    Unbelievable!
    They have finally realized that their app is not good and looks old-fashioned. :D

    Finally a new Flow app is coming.

    One can only hope that they will bring an app update beforehand to edit the training sessions afterwards.

    With good app updates, the Loop could become a real Whoop killer,
    even if Polar hide certain metrics and AI analyses etc. behind their subscription, which is worlds cheaper than Whoop’s subscription.

  14. Loopy Loops

    Ray, given:

    “Polar slightly expanded the internal battery to get an additional 1-2 days of battery life compared to the Polar 360”

    and

    “Battery Replaceable: Yes”

    Does this mean that us existing 360 users can replace the battery with a Loop battery, to get the additional battery life and effectively upgrade ourselves to having a Loop?

  15. Stelios

    Hi everybody,
    does it make any sense to wear also the Vantage and at night keep the loop only? Will it offer better data, more data or will cause a “conflict” of data? Or it will delete the one sourse of data? (Which?) Or just skip it and keep only the watch?
    And why do i have to use an app-workout to have gps data? Why not start a watch-workout and take gps data from my watch (i would say any watch but at least polar watches should work). It’s more convenient to leave phone at home. And an idea:if polar makes the loop and a watch work together how many compined metrics could we have?

  16. Amir

    Great review, thank you. I currently wear a ring 24/7, and an old Garmin Fenix watch to track workouts. I use the ring to monitor changes in my day and sleep hrv to get an idea of my recovery over time. But that is mostly guesswork as manufacturers don’t really share their data over and above heart rates… so my question is, if I went for a Polar Loop, and a newer Polar watch for exercise only, do you think I could enjoy Polar’s full exercise and post exercise recovery metrics?

    • Amir

      Great review, thank you. I currently wear a ring 24/7, and an old Garmin Fenix watch to track workouts. I use the ring to monitor changes in my day and sleep hrv to get an idea of my recovery over time. But that is mostly guesswork as manufacturers don’t really share their data over and above heart rates… so my question is, if I went for a Polar Loop, and a newer Polar watch for exercise only, do you think I could enjoy Polar’s full exercise and post exercise recovery metrics?

      EDIT- looking at other comments, this appears to be a common question – using a loop and a watch to complement each other. Would be super if you could expand on that in the main article!!!!

  17. Darwin

    New Apple Watch is almost out. Unclear to me why anyone would need anything else since besides health tracking it does so much more. Close enough for most people I think.

    • Rob Slater

      Again, how about not wanting to spend what, $400 on an AW, $800 on an AW Ultra, have to charge it every day / every other day, have all the distractions that come with a screen and so much functionality? Some people want all that and are prepared to pay for it, others just want something relatively inexpensive and discreet they have to charge once every week or even two weeks.

    • King Bradley

      The Apple Watch hardware is already fully developed.
      But the Ultra is too overpriced.
      And you can’t change the battery yourself.

      The biggest problem is the software:
      watchOS.
      Something like Google’s Fitbit Healtch Coach is missing.
      Plus the battery life of the AW.

      If I could choose freely as an iPhone user (hopefully soon in the EU!) then I would currently prefer a Pixel Watch 4.

  18. Dimitar

    Thanks for the great review!

    I am recording all my workouts with the Polar Beat app on iPhone + the Polar H10 heart rate strap. It auto syncs with the Flow app and so on, and I am pretty happy, but what I lack is recording of activity data like steps, sleep, recovery.

    Say I add a Polar Loop to the sensor setup, so that we now have a Polar H10 and a Polar Loop.

    Can I use the Polar Loop with the Polar Beat app?
    How does it handle dual recording (H10 with Beat + Loop auto recording on Flow)?
    Can I connect the H10 to the Loop for workouts, like with a watch?

  19. Nuno Martins

    Hi, can i use it with my garmin watch? Or what is the best arm band to used in the bike run garmin watch? Thanks!

  20. Even with the major challenges you listed, I’m going to give this a try. It feels like it has the potential to be a major upgrade over my Vivosmart 5 and I’m just not interested in a whoop subscription again.

    I’m going that eventually a bicep option will be available as well but this works for now. I feel confident that polar will fix the issues you see with workouts because they’re pretty significant.

  21. Mike

    How accurate is the HRV data? I’m looking for a wearable that captures this along with resting HR and total daily activity (Kj burn) w/o a subscription.

  22. Martin

    I would see all of this integrated in chest strap. For me, wearing this on wrist doesnt make sense at all. Its just causing issues during exercises… as chest strap it could also be heavier and have GPS + better battery…

  23. guillaume

    Thank you for this !
    I don’t quite understand the price without which is almost, or is, the price of a watch, like maybe the pacer watch.
    So no screen, ok, I get it, and no GPS, and almost the same price. There I don’t really understand.
    I have got the pacer pro, and I guess I have the same infos (recovery tracking…) and maybe they have it with the pacer as well. So, I don’t understand the price. Even I do understand that it might be good not to have a watch. In the end, I kind of would like that as in real life, I never wear the watch. Though I need the info during hiking… But keeping such a band at night must be more comfy than the watch, which I don’t keep cause it bothers me…
    I switch from an old garmin forunner 225 (yeah quite old) to pacer pro a year ago, there was a really nice discount for the pro like 40%. I really like the flow app. Actually I like it better than garmin connect.
    The only issue for me is the optical sensor, at the beginning I found it pretty accurate. And then I don’t whether it’s because of winter or what, ultimately there some really weird drifts like big drops of the heart rate and it stay low and it should not, or sometimes it bumps, and as well, it should not.
    Any comment on that ? reset the watch? Let’s say that it works well at rest… but then those bumps are weird.
    I have got a chest strap anyway. But sometimes, you just have the watch, right ?

    Thanks again for the review.
    Cheers !

  24. Dean

    Does the strap fit on the bicep?

    Can you use the strap as a HR monitor? for example connect it as a bluetooth HR device to a watch, phone or exercise machine?

  25. James

    Did you see anything for turning Bluetooth off on the band……through the app?