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Wonder if this will be used by link to makevisible.com. The activity tracker that’s not really for activities and they use the polar arm band now
This was my first thought when I heard about the new Polar strap.
I am quite sure companies such as makevisible and others will jump on board the 360 program. I for one am interested to see where they hit on pricing.
I used to be a Polar customer, back many years ago, with S210, S410, S610, etc. Then when Garmin came up with Forerunner GPS and HRM, the Forerunner 301, I moved to Garmin and never looked back – dating myself here. Recently I have been wearing a Fitbit for daily activity tracking, health, and wellness, and Garmin F955 for running, and an Edge 1000 for cycling since I normally wear regular watches and Garmin just does not integrate well among devices, my Vivosmart, and Edge, and Forerunner just don’t work with each other and the health and performance data is terrible – the issue of having to choose a priority device for daily data, and the Forerunner training status does not get the Edge input, and I also sometimes wear an Instint for training, that mess up the Readiness, VO2, etc, even more – this is a whole another conversation. My life got easier just wearing a Fitbit 24/7 and Garmin for activities. I understand many others do the same with Garmin for run/ride/swimming, upload to Strava, and Whoop band or one of the many rings out there for sleep tracking and health like HRV tracking.
So, why all that, I agree with you that Polar would have a home run with such a product, I would consider Polar Band, mainly if they had a subscription-free option, the hefty price tag for the subscription keeps me away from a Whoop Band.
Just a correction, this is the best idea that Polar did not have yet, maybe the best product for this idea, but looks like the Polar Marketing team still does not understand this market, coming from their current other product positioning and how much ground they left to the competition to gain over the years, even with market head start. Hopefully, someone from Polar will listen to you or Garmin comes up with a band and flawless integration with othee products, eliminating this device priority annoyance in Garmin Connect. Cheers
Duuuuuuude – I SO agree with you here. Literally I have slightly unfinished content about how competitive polar’s two main tenants are in the training and recovery space, still to this day even after they’ve been doing the same thing for five years. This would be such a huge victory for them to give an alternative to the WHOOP device. And fantastic summary.
Bad autocorrect? should this be “by lightning”?
hit my lighting while I sleep
Hot take – a tracker designed to be worn on your wrist should have a display of some sort. An “inconspicuous” tracker shouldn’t be worn on your wrist at all.
Strongly disagree. I just want a wristband without display. I’ve been wanting it for years, but without subscription model.
Yeah I disagree on this as well. I would love something like this in the Garmin ecosystem. I want the data, but I don’t always want to see it right there and want to be able to both collect the data and wear some of my nice watches sometimes. Honestly if Garmin had one of these it would mean I was buying two devices from them rather than one.
I wonder if it’s only b2b so that Polar or partners can leverage the ability to charge a subscription for the product? Polar products don’t have a sub and this would be a big change.
Otherwise- this is just what I would buy from polar. I don’t want to wear a big sports watch 24/7, but want to know stats, so currently use a Fitbit inspire but resent paying the monthly fee for the sleep data I want.
I live my verity sense and have wondered for a while if this would make a good 24/7 tracker and it seems it would!
Make this consumer Polar and I will buy it!
I’d love to see something like this come from Garmin.
There are lots of days where I’d like to wear my dress watch, but also track heart rate, recovery etc. all day.
Now I end up wearing my Garmin watch if I want those metrics tracked…
Not interested in wearing two watches!
Agree.
Meanwhile, I use mechanical dress watch on left and vivosmart 4 (display turned off) on the right.
I switch to Garmin FR255 for swimming and mtb.
Hopes Vivosmart 6 will be more elegant and minimalist.
Seconded.
I mostly stopped wearing dress watches in favor of the Garmin watch but would love a small Garmin device to track all of my relevant data and go back to dress watches and the Garmin watch for outdoor activities only.
I tried doing this with the VS4 & 5. I preferred the 4 but I gave up on both because if I want accurate Body Battery stats…I can’t switch off devices. So that means even when I’m out for a run, and wearing a garmin, I have to keep my VS device on my wrist.
I agree 100%, and I’m waiting for the same. A VivoSmart 6 small, invisible but powerful with their thing figured out about the “primary device”. I want to wear my dress watches.
My first running watch was an RS300X and I loved that thing. At the time (mid/late-2000s), I thought Polar was the epitome of running technology. I eventually got an RC3 as I moved to GPS which I also found to be a great watch. But they fell behind in multisport and as I took up triathlon I moved over to the Garmin ecosystem and haven’t really seen a reason to ever go back to Polar, even though I have always kinda wanted to for some reason. Maybe nostalgia?
But I prefer wearing “real” watches so I’ve been using a Whoop for the past year. I love that I can hide it so easily. But if Polar or Garmin would come out with their own competitor, I’d drop it in a heartbeat (get it?) and move over immediately. And if Polar came out with this, I would seriously consider getting one of their Vantage watches and maybe even one of their bike computers.
I can’t be the only one.
Long time follower of DCR, this is the first time I needed to comment, in hopes to talk to the company directly. Hopefully Polar reads the comment sections like the other companies!
Like many already extant comments, when I read the title for this article, I dropped everything to read further and desperately find out where I could buy this (as a consumer.) As Ray talked talked about Polar’s consumer plans I did become more disappointed. – I realise that this “to business” thing is almost definitely geared towards the big boys like Nike and Ad, and obviously those licensing fees can be quite fun given those brand recognitions allowing them to push higher pricing power; but I don’t think Polar coming out with their own version, even as they license it out to the other boys and girls, will interfere with this. Brands will continue to brand.
Secondly, I also agree with Ray that the current Whoop is not really a direct competition to sports watches. In fact, I am currently using my Apple Watch Ultra on the bicep because I want to keep my wrists clear, and if Polar gave me this option, I would in a heart beat. (True fact, I once went on a deep dive into the idea of just wearing a Polar-OH1 for this exact purpose… didn’t work out, but still.)
If Polar made this direct to consumer, I would purchase this immediately.
Why isnt Garmin designing such a 24/7-sensor? this is such a good idea for peaple loving metrics but dont love a big sports watch on the wrist at work or while sleeping.
I would imagine it’s a few challenges:
1) They couldn’t justify charging a monthly fee like whoop.
2) They’d have to make it more affordable than their watches (why are you charging more for the same data with no screen?)
3) It could potentially cannibalize their premium new watch sales. If you could get most of your day to day metrics from a $200-300 device, why upgrade your Fenix 5/6/7? Just use it for runs and the Garmin band for everything else.
Take number 3 with the points 1&2 and it’s a recipe for disaster for Garmin. Only way to get around that is to make something compelling about the “not-whoop” device that differentiates it from their watches and could justify it having a monthly fee. They must have done the modeling and thought that stealing Whoops share doesn’t justify the risk. Maybe Whoop customers already use a Garmin for run tracking. Not really sure. But it’s not as slam dunk of a move as it seems at first blush.
I do really second that. I would be happy to see such a device from Garmin soon.
Maybe i am the alien here, but my this is my point of view and i don’t really think that a big part of garmin users would think the same. Even i would have my fantastic Garmin strap 24/7, I would never want to miss my garmin sport watch for running, checking heart rate and power while my training, navigating and so on. But i would definitely by the Strap for sleeping, for work, where i am not allowed to wear a watch at my wrist, and maybe for a theatre visit, where i would like to wear a classic watch. So, in my case and in many others i would by this strap additionally to my Garmin watch because i want to have all my data in Garmin connect. Garmin can make extra money with this product!
I don’t understand it.
I have no idea how many users Whoop has, but when I look at their monthly prices…
If Polar brought this band to end customers for e.g. 69€ and then 9.99€ per month, Whoop would have a problem.
I really wish Garmin would do something like this. I love the garmin sports experience, but the smartwatch experience isn’t as good as it could be. Apple watch is completely the opposite, I have swapped between the two in the past but I like the all day training and stress data and I’m not prepared to wear an apple watch and an Epix. Something like this though would be great.
You make a funny face! 😂
Imho, this is a huge own goal for Polar. I’m a long-term fan-boy…. I’ve been championing Polar all the way from their early attempts at HRM in the late 90’s, through the attempts at titanium watches in the early 2000’s, then through to the mass produced (but massively reliable) M430 plastic things, then the fated and widely ridiculed ‘Loop’, and to my final port of call, my trusty Grit X Pro Titanium. I then finally (and reluctantly) ditched that for a Whoop and subscription. Why? I have a collection of dress-watches which I don’t wear often (enough) – and Whoop gave me the daily data I craved, whilst allowing me to indulge my passion for actual timepieces. Thing is, I miss Polar’s ecosystem, and I’ll be honest, their heart-rate accuracy. So a ‘Whoop-style’ Polar band? Hell, I’m all in……this is the answer to all my fitness-tracking dreams. Except they aren’t making it for punters like me. Damn you Polar.
Love my traditional “dumb” watch.
Want data tracking.
Don’t want to wear 2 watches, and don’t want a subscription model (whoop).
Too many screens in my life.
There must be so many people in my position!
Why are Polar running away from this huge goal?
Launch to consumers!
Seems that Polar Flow will provide support to Polar 360 … let’s see what this means ;-)