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Stages Announces New Smart Bike: Hands-on Details

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Stages is the first company at Eurobike 2019 to bring a new smart bike to market, though, it’s hardly the first smart-ish bike they’ve made. In fact, it’s likely nobody in the world is more familiar with connected bikes than Stages. The company makes not only their own line of bikes already, but bikes for countless major companies and brands you use in gyms around the world, including many of the most popular ones you hear in the news every day.

But today they’re jumping into the resistance controllable consumer market with the new Stages Bike (they’ve previously had consumer-focused bikes that were not smart controlled). This new unit includes everything you’d need to be fully self-sustaining on an app like Zwift, complete with steering and brakes, as well as the ability to expand to triathlon bars and other multifunction buttons as apps might require them.

I’ve had a chance to get a quick test ride on the new Stages Bike, as well as spend what is hours of time discussing all the details with the company and understanding the parts. Sometime next month they hope to have a unit in the DCR Cave for more detailed testing, but until then, we’ll focus on what we have today.

With that, let’s dive into the tech specs.

(Also, check back in a little bit for a full hands-on video…that I’ll be re-shooting early this morning after I apparently mis-framed and totally missed getting my head in the frame yesterday. Though some of you would say my head is overrated anyway.)

The Tech Specs:

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We’ll get right into things on the tech specs side of the house. In many ways, some of these specs will be familiar to trainer folks, whereas you’ll find a new slate of specs that we need to start being aware of as more bikes hit the market. Things like supported crank lengths, adjustability limits, and handlebar extensibility. But first, let’s start with the more common trainer-based metrics:

– Supports ANT+ FE-C control & Bluetooth Smart FTMS Control
– Support ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart power broadcast
– Contains a complete Stages LR dual-sided crankset for power measurement
– Contains a secondary power measurement at the freewheel to cross-reference in real-time
– Max resistance of 3,000w
– Max Incline of XXX
– Flywheel weight is ~50lbs
– Claimed accuracy: +/- 1.5%
– Ability to customize chainrings, cassettes, and shifting preferences via app
– USB ports with fast charging near display (2 of them)
– Junction box with ability to extend to additional shifters
– Ability to add in triathlon/TT bars to bike (accessory)
– Supports 165/170/172.5/175mm crank arms lengths
– Has brake levers like a normal bike
– Has steering buttons

Ok, with all those technical details out of the way, let’s kinda walk through the bike from back to front. Starting off with the saddle and seat post. Both are individually adjustable. With the seat post you twist the lever to unlock it, and it goes up/down with laser-etched measurement markers as if it were going to the bottom bracket like a normal outside bike. The laser etching is notable because it won’t scrub off over time like some stickers we’ve seen on other bikes.

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The seat adjusts forward/back using their ‘infinity’ adjustment system, which basically means it doesn’t have to lock into preset grooves. It can just go exactly as much as you need by rotating it. Further, the saddle itself follows standard issue bike saddle rails, so you can adjust that however you’d normally like.

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Next down below is the crank arms. It’s here you’ll find the Stages LR dual-sided pods, one for each crank arm, just like on an outside Stages LR crankset. Of course, the key difference here being they aren’t limited to trying to backwards engineer various crankarm manufacturer’s wonky tolerances and manufacturing inconsistencies (lookin’ at you, Shimano), since they make the crankarm themselves.

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Here’s a closer look:

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And you’ll see the other pod on the other side:

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What’s interesting here is that this isn’t the only power measurement Stages does in the bike. In fact, inside the bike, at the flywheel, they also measure power at a much higher rate, where that power figure is leveraged for keeping the flywheel under control. Still, Stages then cross-references the two figures for consistency. Ultimately, the crank-based data set is what gets passed to your apps/bike computer.

Now you might have noticed the crazy looking four-hole pattern at the end of the crank arm. This is where you can pick exactly which crank length you’d want. It’s definitely not as cosmetically clean looking as the Tacx reversible pod system on the Tacx Bike, but it’s also a heck of a lot easier to quickly spin pedals into (and has a bit more flexibility).

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Note that the pedals don’t come with the bike – you just put your own pedals on there. Heading up front you’ll see there are two wheels on the front, these allow you to just lift up the back and roll it around. Since most of the weight is towards the front, it’s pretty easy to lift up and relocate:

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Then there are two water bottle cages:

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Followed by the entire front display aspect. They’ve got a larger tablet holder, and then inset within that is a smaller phone holder. It’s got a retractable arm that automatically resizes to whatever size device you’ve got:

(Note: To be super clear, that’s an iPad Pro sitting on the tablet holder, it is NOT the display of the bike itself)

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There’s also a small phone holder down below it all, so you can rest your phone there:

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And below it are two fast-charging USB ports at 2.4A:

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Finally, there’s all the adjustability on the front handlebar rig. First, it can go up and down, again, with laser etched markers:

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And then you’ve got forward/back movement too. Next, there’s the shifters. On each side you’ve got basically five buttons:

– Upper set: To shift up/down
– Middle button: Steering to left or right
– Lower set: Shifting up/down from the drops

You can see these here, with the lower set hidden under the bar tape:

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And then, of course, the brakes – which will legit stop the flywheel and your ability to spin the crank arms. That’s notable from every other bike on the market in that those just stop the flywheel, but don’t stop you from pedaling like a real bike would. Of course, Zwift doesn’t support this today, so your avatar in Zwift just keeps on coasting. Apparently it’s being discussed.

Finally, there’s the little junction box at the base of the handlebars. This has extra ports for accessories down the road. For example, if you wanted to add triathlon/TT bars, you could. And they’ve added a spare set of ports for whatever else might come down the pipeline as apps could figure out how to take advantage of this, or extra sets of buttons (for example, perhaps to access in-game functions like power ups or such).

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The overarching theme that you’re going to see this week is that these hardware makers have laid the groundwork for much more interactivity on these indoor bikes. But it’s really going to be up to Zwift and other’s apps to actually take advantage of it. Be it shifting, braking, steering, or extra app buttons – the world is their oyster. Now someone just needs a slice of lemon.

Initial Ride Thoughts:

Now if I look across the gamut of smart bikes chillaxing at the various Eurobike booths this year, I’d say the Stages bike probably gets a middle of the road ‘sexy score’, in terms of how it looks. It’s not the swankiest, but it’s also not the ugliest. It’s a bike born from parents that are all about durability in a commercial gym where people are using them 12+ hours a day. No matter how much Stages might try and design a consumer product, this thing is built like the tank of its forefathers.

But, that’s not necessarily a bad thing. First off, it’s a known quantity. As competitor Tacx learned over the past year with the Tacx Bike, building an indoor bike is hard. Some other companies have also learned that ‘building an indoor bike is hard’ lesson too. But more on them later. Which isn’t to say that Stages job is easy – hardly so. They’ve had to figure out how to take a commercial product and apply it to a consumer market, specifically around things like app based configuration – which will take the bulk of their time between now and shipping in Q1.

So my initial impressions are as follows, bulletized style because it’s 1:13AM and I’ve got four more posts to write:

– Everything about the bike feels beastly (in a good way), there’s no chance you’re going to accidentally break a panel or something
– Everything about the bike is tidy. There’s no spare wires rambling about the frame, it’s super clean
– The adjustability is better than the Tacx Bike in terms of how the actual handles work
– Trivially easy to adjust position into my rough fit (very rough, it was a tradeshow floor)
– Moving it around on the wheels is easy enough, we did that for the photos in fact
– The flywheel is…again…a beast. At 50lbs, there’s nothing in this category like it
– Road-like feel is pretty darn good. Some minor areas potentially for improvement, mainly related to shifting
– Braking was impressive, when you pull the brake levers, the bike legit stops under you (none of the others do this)
– Shifting was good, though not great (more on that in a second, it’s fixable)
– The shifters themselves are buttons, not actual levers, so it’s not quite as realistic as a bike, but the clickiness is good
– Secondary lower drops shifting buttons are appreciated
– I liked the flexibility in the overall display holder system, plenty of places to stash a disturbing number of devices
– I disliked the lack of display on the bike itself, makes it hard with apps that don’t support gear shifting on them

On the shifting bits, as I discussed in the previous section, Stages uses small buttons on each side to allow you to shift. These will be customizable by launch, but for now they were set up such that the left side shifted what would be your front ring (big/small), and the rear shifted up/down the cassette. The clickiness was good here, so I was happy with that.

However there’s no display on the Stages Bike itself, so they’re dependent on a given app, such as Zwift, for displaying gears. And while Zwift does display gears for some bikes – such as the WattBike Atom, it wasn’t yet working for the Stages Bike. Undoubtedly, that’ll probably get resolved super quick, heck – maybe even by tomorrow. But what won’t get resolved so quickly is how that enumerates itself on countless other apps. Especially since there’s no standard for doing so.

Over time you’ll get used to it, but I found that with the Wattbike Atom is that when Zwift added the gearing display things improved dramatically, especially for small shifts to know the shift actually happened.

Speaking of which, Stages did note that they’re looking at adding in a tiny virtual ‘bump’, like the Tacx Bike does, to let you physically feel the shift vibration via your legs. It’s a super cool effect that you wouldn’t even realize is being added after the fact, because it just feels so realistic. Just like you would out on your actual bike outdoors.

Ultimately, within the super short timeframe I had to test it – things are looking good thus far. I didn’t see any standout issues that were concerning, and for the price point, it could be super competitive.

The Competition:

Ahh yes, you wanted it – a complete chart of competitive specs. After all, this is the Eurobike of the indoor smart bike, and there’s no better place to highlight all these specs than the DCR Comparison Database and Charts. So I’ve slated up all the big competitors into the chart below. This chart will automatically update over the course of the day as new offerings are announced:

Function/FeatureStages BikeWattbike AtomTacx NEO Bike SmartWahoo KICKR Bike
Copyright DC Rainmaker - Updated March 1st, 2020 @ 2:25 pmNew Window
Price for trainer$2,600-$2,800USD~$2,500USD$3,199$3,499
Trainer TypeIndoor BikeIndoor BikeIndoor BikeIndoor Bike
Available today (for sale)Q1 2020YesYesYes
Availability regionsGlobalUK/South Africa/Australia/Scandinavia/USAGlobalLimited Initially
Wired or Wireless data transmission/controlWirelessWirelessWirelessWireless
Power cord requiredYesYesNoYes
Flywheel weight50lbs9.28KG/20.4lbsSimulated/Virtual 125KG13bs/5.9kgs
ResistanceStages BikeWattbike AtomTacx NEO Bike SmartWahoo KICKR Bike
Can electronically control resistance (i.e. 200w)YesYesYesYes
Includes motor to drive speed (simulate downhill)No (but kinda)NoYesYes
Maximum wattage capability3,000w2,000w2,200w @ 40KPH2,200w @ 40KPH
Maximum simulated hill incline25%25%20% (and -15% downhill)
FeaturesStages BikeWattbike AtomTacx NEO Bike SmartWahoo KICKR Bike
Ability to update unit firmwareYesYesYesYes
Measures/Estimates Left/Right PowerYes (actually measured independently)YesYesNo
Can rise/lower bike or portion thereofNoNoNoYes
Can directionally steer trainer (left/right)Yes (with compatible apps)NoYES (WITH COMPATIBLE APPS)Yes (with compatible apps)
Can rock side to side (significantly)NoNoNoNo
Can simulate road patterns/shaking (i.e. cobblestones)NoNoYesNo
AccuracyStages BikeWattbike AtomTacx NEO Bike SmartWahoo KICKR Bike
Includes temperature compensationYesYesN/AYes
Support rolldown procedure (for wheel based)Cross-references power meter dataNoN/AN/A
Supported accuracy level+/- 1.5%+/- 2%+/- 1%+/- 1%
Trainer ControlStages BikeWattbike AtomTacx NEO Bike SmartWahoo KICKR Bike
Allows 3rd party trainer controlYesYesYesYes
Supports ANT+ FE-C (Trainer Control Standard)YesYesYesYes
Supports Bluetooth Smart FTMS (Trainer Control Standard)YEsYesYesYes
Data BroadcastStages BikeWattbike AtomTacx NEO Bike SmartWahoo KICKR Bike
Transmits power via ANT+YEsYesYesNo
Transmits power via Bluetooth SmartYEsYesYesNo
Transmits cadence dataYesYesYesYes
Indoor Bike FeaturesStages BikeWattbike AtomTacx NEO Bike SmartWahoo KICKR Bike
Brake levers or buttonsYesNoBrake LeversYes
Shifting typeButtonsButtonsButton BasedNormal bike levers
Can customize shifting (Shimano/SRAM/Campagnolo)Coming in appNoIn future updateYes (Shimano/SRAM/Campagnolo)
Can customize gearingComing in appMininimalYesYes (both cassette and chainrings)
Supported Crank Lengths165/170/172.5/175mm170mm170/172.5/175mm165/167.5/170/172.5/175mm
DisplayNoNoYesSmall display near top-tube
USB PortsTwo Ports (Fast Charging)No2 USB Ports (2AMP)1 USB port
PurchaseStages BikeWattbike AtomTacx NEO Bike SmartWahoo KICKR Bike
Amazon LinkLinkN/A
Clever Training - Save with the VIP programLinkLinkLink
DCRainmakerStages BikeWattbike AtomTacx NEO Bike SmartWahoo KICKR Bike
Review LinkLinkLinkLinkLink

Oh, and before you ask why I haven’t included some products into the above – here’s the quick and dirty answers:

Peloton Bike: It’s not a ‘smart’ bike in the sense of the above, it doesn’t allow you to set a specific power level (it does tell you the current power level). Rumors are Peloton is working on such a bike, but nothing today.

SRM Bike: This was also announced today, with full smart integration. I’ve got a chat with them in a few hours. Stay tuned!

True Kinetix Bike: This will likely be in the above chart by the end of the week. They’re planning on shipping me a test unit in the next week or two, and I’ll be meeting with them this afternoon. I just want to get a clear understanding of timelines and capabilities (specifically the ANT+/BLE bits) before I add them above.

VirtuPro: It could also get escalated into the above chart, I’ve talked about it in the past. But I need clarity on when they’ll (actually) ship it with ANT+/BLE support, and realistic timelines to that. Else, it’s a proprietary solution that doesn’t really fit what the tables are designed for (the rest of the bikes here are compatible with all industry protocols).

Again, I’m more than happy to add products into the database. In general, my rule of thumb is I want hands-on time (or butts-on in this case), and I want some realistic level of clarity on delivery timeframes.

Wrap-Up:

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From a consumer standpoint, it’d be easy on a day like today with all the new exciting smart bike announcements to look at a company like Stages and perhaps overlook their offering. After all, to most consumers in the outdoor riding realm, they’re known for their power meters. But the reality is that before Stages ever made their first power meter, they were (and are) an indoor bike company. Before any other company on the show floor was making trainers, or bikes, Stages was already doing that. To them, this is their bread and butter.

That gives them a significant advantage when it comes to production. While Stages won’t start shipping until Q1 2020, the majority of that time is going to be used for their app, to ensure a smooth setup and customization aspect. Again, as you’ll see with other offerings, the app is going to become a more critical part of an indoor bike – ensuring your indoor ride matches your outdoor ride: Shifting preferences, virtual cassettes and chainrings, etc… But what Stages currently lacks in app readiness, they easily make-up for in manufacturing capability.

See, the bike you see in this post isn’t a prototype, or hand-built. It’s a fully tooled unit off the assembly line. An assembly line that has volumes staggeringly higher than any other indoor bike company here at Eurobike. As we saw with Tacx, Wattbike, and we’ll see with others – getting production to scale for others is really hard. Incredibly hard. It’s why many of these other bikes will have pre-order lead-times that easily take you to the end of the year.

It also gives them an advantage in understanding durability on bikes. Their commercial products for clubs offer a 10-year warranty guarantee with *no maintenance required, again with estimated use of 10-12 hours per day. No adjustments of belts, no drive chain lube, nothing. That’s staggering when compared to the indoor trainer world.

Of course, let’s not pretend this will be a walk in the park for Stages either. Their typical setup is delivering 50 bikes to a single gym location. They’ve now gotta figure out how to deliver a single 150-pound bike to a single residential room in a 3rd-floor apartment without an elevator. And they’ve gotta develop that app. If there’s one thing Stages struggles with time and again, it’s app development. Stages plans to leverage their existing distribution channels and retailers, so once they’re ready to start taking orders – you’ll be able to do so through your normal Stages dealer.

Their plan is that assembly is quick, with the bike only needing the front handlebars, your pedals, and three bolts attached. So for most people, they’ll be able to do it themselves.  Speaking of which – Stages is hoping to get a unit sometime this fall to me, so I’ll be looking forward to putting it through its paces throughout the fall and up to release early next year.

With that – thanks for reading!

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75 Comments

  1. John P.

    Ray, it sounds like Stages would be the indoor bike you would buy with your own money versus Wahoo and Wattbike. True?

    • Hard to say still. I think between Wattbike and Stages, the price point makes the USD pricing of Wattbike more challenging. Whereas, if they roughly kept the GBP-based exchange rate pricing, then that’d probably be the winner between those two.

  2. Pavel

    Hi Ray,
    it’s interesting to see how this smart indoor bike segment is expanding.
    But is there a point for a consumer to even consider a smart bike over a trainer? I think, you can buy KICKR + CLIMB + KICKR Fan + tablet holder + 1 year of Zwift for less that either of these things cost, and you’ll be riding on exactly same bike that was configured to your body measurements etc or am I wrong?

    • Heinrich Hurtz

      For me, it’d be easy enough to dial in the exact same fit as my road bike and not have to subject my bike to indoor training wear and tear. And my bike would be sitting there ready to go at the drop of hat if needed. No on and off the trainer.

      That said, some achieve the same end by getting an old bike to leave set up on the trainer or using their backup bike on the trainer.

    • kelly

      For a household with multiple riders the indoor bike may be the better option. Adjusting the Stages bikes we have at my gym takes maybe 30 seconds once you memorize your settings. Swapping a bicycle in and out of a trainer between my husband and myself would drive me nuts.

    • Tim Rizvanov

      It depends. If the riders use different saddles, chainging them around (not to mention adjusting the height and reach) will take longer, compared to simply swapping the bikes themselves.

    • Mike Baldwin

      I had the same thought (no way my partner and I could find one saddle to make us both happy)…If Stages could engineer a quick-disconnect coupling for the seat mount that would be great….Alternatively, I guess you could purchase an additional seatpost assembly for quick swaps, but image it would be $$$…Seems like a purchase only viable in desperation, and if you did the math up front prior to purchase, likely make the while value proposition fall apart. Maybe…

    • Quick and unique saddle folks,

      We will sell seatposts separately, to address this exact question. I do not have final pricing on it right now, but it should be rather reasonable to get a second seatpost so you and your riding partner can keep everything that’s on your bike the same inside as well.

  3. fisao

    You had my curiosity, now you have my full attention Stages!

    The price difference between the Tacx, Wahoo and Stages bikes are considerable, and given that sturdiness/longevity have long term financial impacts too, I will need to look very closely before choosing one.

    having more choice is always nice for the consumer 🙂

    Thanks Ray

  4. Gary P

    I was contemplating the potential utility of the extra buttons and had a total “aha!” moment: Nintendo and Zwift should get together and create a Mario Bike World. Leading you Zwift race, but a have a competitor is closing? Drop a banana peel before you get shelled!

  5. Frankenzen

    Great indoor trainer with real potential. I’d be interested to know the q-factors on these new smart bikes. I really notice it on some indoor gym bikes where it starts to affect my cycling – I just don’t seem to want to ride for long on them.

  6. Stu

    It looks like it has a normal aluminium handlebar with normal. We’ve all seen the corrosion problem sweat causes to aluminium bars. I would have thought maybe some extra protection was given to let them wear a little better.

  7. Rob

    Did you check the max/min seat heights that are possible for these bikes? As a very tall individual that needs a 90mm seat height, I’d love to know if I fit!

    • Hey Rob,

      Funny you should ask, I’ve attached a picture of our seatpost for you. 🙂

    • Tim Grose

      Ditto I am 1.95m. Most gym bikes don’t go high enough for me. Might this?

    • JimL

      Is this from BB center?

      Also, how do the aero bars fit? It seems like my extensions would run right into the tablet holder and I would just drip sweat all over the console area.

      Finally, all of these bikes need a super easy way to control ERG mode power. I’d love to be able to just have an up down screen (like the Wahoo app) on the little console to be able to control power without even needing my phone or an app open.

    • Rob

      Nice! Is that measured to saddle rails (like Trek seatmasts) or to the top of an “average saddle”?

    • JimL/Rob,

      That is measured from BB center to the top of the saddle.

      JimL,

      The clamp for the handlebars can be flipped upside down for smaller riders or to lower the bars relative to the tablet holder. Since the interface here is the same 31.8mm handlebar interface you are used to, clip on bars are all in play, as well as any tt specific handlebar that has a standard 31.8mm round clamping area. Some aero bars (those with flipped up ends) may still interfere with the tablet holder, in which case we would recommend removing it.

      The StagesBike follows ANT and Bluetooth protocols for trainer control, so if there is an app you are currently using to control your indoor trainer, you will be able to use it here as well. We will have a Stages app that can control the trainer for sure, however its important to note that the StagesBike will work with others as well. Does your last comment refer to using a bike computer like the Dash to control ERG mode?

    • Mathilda Moore

      Hello to Jim from Stages!

      I’d like to get a smart bike and think this StagesBike would be my favorite personal choice.

      However, I keep looking for updates about this product launch and the most recent info I can access is from early Fall (like this great review).

      Holding out for this bike would be easier if Stages were to put out some sort of release schedule update – or at the very least an announcement landing page on your website.

      I tried emailing directly and got lost in inter-department shuffle. Any updates or comments for us antsy enthusiasts would be so welcome!!

      Thanks!!

    • Bradley

      Hey Jim from Stages. Is there any update on the StagesBike? I have called and inquired about this bike and it seems no one at Stages can give any solid answers on the what, when, and where of this bike. I am patiently holding out on my purchase to see the final version of this bike, but with no information other than this review and a few others I am likely not going to be able to hold out much longer and will purchase one of the competitors bikes.

    • David Kelly

      I am wondering what is happening with any of the Smart Bikes. Currently, as far as I can tell, only the WattBike is actually deliverable. Anyone been able to actually purchase a Wahoo or Tacx bike in the recent weeks?

    • Iain

      That’s a shame .. I need 89cm to top of saddle.
      Will it be possible to get a longer seat post?

  8. jake

    Can you remove the tablet/phone holder and slap some clip-on aerobar extensions?

  9. Frederic

    Nice!
    Knowing that such a Stages indoor bike is available at a hotel’s gym could sway me to reserve a room there on a trip.
    Typical hotel gym trainer bikes are so different from real bicycle, with bad positions & adjustments and so uncomfortable (not to mention prehistoric in their display of metrics) that i don’t even bother.

  10. Tommy

    I really wish the atom had those usb ports for charging. Simple but very useful

  11. John Boyle

    May just be the angle of the images but seems like it would be difficult to install pedals that do not have wrench flats. This is common on many gym style spin/exercise bikes as well. Any thoughts Ray? There may be a similar issue with Wattbike but Wahoo has easy access.

    • Chad McNeese

      Great observation and question.

    • Hey John/Chad,

      For a pedal like a Look which requires an 8mm wrench, it’s easy to use the ball end to get the pedal all the way in, and you can get a standard park tool 8mm wrench short side in between the frame and crank to tighten it down. You do have to move the crank to the 12-o-clock position, but it’s not difficult.

    • David

      Ray thanks for all your incredible reports on the coming fleet of smart bikes. My birthday is coming up and I am in the market for one. Regarding the Stages bike you were estimating a price of $2,600 – $2800. Studio-Cycles posted a video a couple of days ago on a new bike called the Stages Solo. The price listed is $3,749. Comparing pictures on both sites they look similar, are they? Or is there another new Stages bike coming in 2020? Thanks again for the incredible detailed information.

      David

    • The Stages Solo is a different bike, it’s got a screen and all sorts of stuff, but no integrated automated resistance control: link to stagesindoorcycling.com

  12. Nedim

    A very similar version of this bike is what LifeTime Fitness uses with Stages bike computers and some pretty sophisticated software that enables you to log in and track your HR etc and get files after workout sessions.

    Can confirm — SUPER solid.

  13. Joh

    What is the crankset q-factor of this trainer bike? Can’t stand wide q-factor (all over 153 mm) bikes or gym trainers.

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  15. Cory Shield

    Stages produces quality, high end products. I can’t wait to try this out. Technology like this seems ahead of its time. Can’t wait until they make a Mario Cart app for the bike! 😜

  16. Rob F

    Would a setup like this work without some controlling app / device or does it require some external device to function? How does changing resistance work in this situation?

    Say I get this (or another trainer-bike) and my wife wants to spin on it while watching TV. She doesn’t have a bike computer (for ANT+ FE-C) and doesn’t want to go through the trouble of setting up an app like Trainer Road / Zwift / etc. She just wants an indoor bike she can jump on and spin with minimal setup (other than setting seat position, etc). I’d want to have ANT+ FE-C (or Bluetooth equivalent) for training. Would this work for this situation?

    • Rob,

      No problem! If you power on the Stages Bike, you can start pedaling it and change resistance by pressing the shift buttons. Thats it! Your wife should be perfectly happy with that.

      Sounds like you know what to expect already for those who are willing to connect applications to smart trainers and smart bikes, but just so everyone else knows, you will be able to connect to the Stages Bike with our Stages Link mobile application and control it, change settings, and view information like current gear, power, cadence, etc. You can also connect it to an application that controls smart trainers and use it as you would expect (you can keep viewing our Stages Link app to see current gear, change gearing or other settings, etc.)

      I hope that clears it up for you!

      Also of note, if your wife does want to get the app, you can both connect to the smart bike, and your personal settings will be sent to the bike, so you can pick up where you left off 🙂

  17. Ferdinand Tomas

    I’ll get one of these smart bikes because of my wife. I’ve got a direto trainer coupled with a campy road bike but my wife can’t use that. Major height difference, and ahe doesn’t ride outdoor just spins for fitness. And pretty sure she’ll like zwift or any of the other training pkgs.

    The adjustabilty allows one bike to be used by two people. The wahoo bike is great but too expensive and too new (always teething issues in a first gen product), the atom bike is nice but is the shifting thing fixed? Needs to be seemless- 2years not in usa isn’t comforting. Hoping to see that new review with flying colors as it does look cool and it’s tue cheapest of the 3.
    If neither of those work, then the stages bike. Middle price, i know it is built like a tank, and that 50 lb flywheel. If the gear shifting is slick and maybe add a lever option downline I’m in. Only downside, it’s not sexy

  18. Kwisatz

    Looking forward to the promised “full hands-on video”

  19. Robert

    I dont understand why most SmartBikes dont use a simple Seatpost for easy Saddle Change for other Riders like the KickrBike – just keep it simple

  20. Richard Swadel
  21. Twiz

    Really curious to know how loud the Stages bike is compared to Wattbike Atom, Tacx and Wahoo? Am guessing somewhere close to the Atom but good to know.

    Also any views on likely pricing into the UK in £ and availability?

  22. Dan Rudy

    I noticed the incline was blank. Is this becasue you do not know what it will be or will it not have the ability to mimic inclines?

  23. Bernie

    Great review! Stages are super high quality indoor bikes that provide a great riding experience. I can’t wait to try this new model!

  24. Clay C

    Is there a model name or number for this smart bike, even though it’s not for sale yet?

    • John

      Beginning to think this is a Myth. Many have asked and no one gets any answers. Gonna buy one of the REAL ones already being produced.

    • I’m so confused by your comment. It’s literally called the ‘Stages Bike’ – that’s the name (as noted in almost every paragraph of this post).

      As for availability, they (last September), said it’s Q1 2020, we’re three weeks into that, and sure enough, they’re showing what sounds like final hardware here at the Tour Down Under this week in their booth that anyone can ride. They’re saying they’re just wrapping up the last of the app bits, and they said they’re still on target for that. So, we’ll have to see there.

      Keeping in mind Tacx has paused production of their Tacx Bike, and Wahoo continues to only produce/ship a handful of their bikes every three weeks. The whole indoor smart bike revolution isn’t exactly off to a roaring start.

    • Clay C

      Hello Ray, Sorry about that. On the Stages website, their existing line of indoor bikes has five models. The new one being not yet released for sale and it also being called “Stages Bike” seemed so generic I didn’t think that could be the production name! Thanks for your reply and update. Keep up the good work, I enjoy your site and videos.

    • John

      Not sure why you are confused. When you call they can’t provide any information on the bike. When you ask questions in forums it seems to fall on deaf ears. Hence the reason for my comments. It is a myth only few have seen, touched, or felt. Wish they would spin up marketing materials, a webpage, any information at this point from Stages would convince people this is coming to fruition soon. Some of us will likely not wait much longer for this mythical beast and will purchase a competitors bike without solid information from Stages. I can understand why you are confused, as you have had the pleasure of reality with this bike, while everyone else…POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS…is left in the dark dreaming of this mystical beast.

    • David Kelly

      Ray,

      No pics we don’t believe it. Thanks for the update on what’s happening. It has been confusing from a potential customers standpoint when one is willing to fork over money but there is no one to take it. Especially when it is serious money.

      In the meantime, I purchased a Saris H3 and am having a lot of fun on Zwift.

    • Arno Lakeman

      I found this on their website:
      link to stagescycling.com
      At least, this is ‘official’ information from Stages.

  25. Brian

    Any news on the release date and in depth review?

    • Units are still in transit. I think my brief update I did a few weeks ago sounds roughly on track. I expect I’ll probably have a unit the first week of March, and then I’d expect it’ll take me at least 2-3 weeks of riding before I release a full review. So my bet is a review the first week of April.

    • Bob

      do you think they will be on sale at the same time you will be receiving your unit? My ife and daughter want to train for a ride in July and I dont want to wait too long after the Tacx Neo fiasco and losing over 2 months only to find out it was cancelled. Frankly, I find the wahoo to expensive and the lift feature more for show rahter than useful for training….I would have been happy with the ATOM but seems like that is the least realisstic ride of the bunch if I read your review correctly.
      I am just ready to buy the Stages if the price is in the upper 2’s and hope that you tell mle it is great after the fact..LOL

    • Yeah, I expect them to go on sale once they have them stateside and are ready to start moving things out.

      I’d agree the Atom, while priced very well, certainly matches expectations for pricing versus the others.

      My (very brief) test rides on the Stages bike went quite well from a feel standpoint. Something I’ve heard other mirror as well. As I’ve said elsewhere, I don’t think it’s the sexiest bike, but I think they’re gonna have a leg up in ride feel and probably the ‘just works’ factor that the others continue to struggle with (especially Tacx as of late).

    • Christophe

      Sorry, what do you mean by “just works” factor ?

  26. Lucy

    Hey, I still miss some bikes in the comparison table, like f.e. Technogym skillbike, bodybike smart+, Life fitness ICG and probable others that I don’t know of. Did I miss something?

  27. rui

    i’m glad i came across this post. been thinking to pull the trigger on the wattbike atom but with the reviews of lagging when sprinting in zwift, that became a concern as it seems never been fixed.

    currently using stage’s PM and signed up to be notified when the stage bike comes out. can’t wait for the in depth video review Ray.

  28. Moo

    Looks like it could be being released in the UK pretty soon .. just found this.

    link to saddleback.co.uk

    • Moo

      The date wasn’t on the site this morning, but it’s been updated to say ETA 15th April

    • While precise dates are a bit fuzzy right now, things are very…very…very close. You’ll note Clever Training has a listing now, though not quite yet taking orders. link to clevertraining.com

    • Rui

      Hi Ray, so we’re you able to get one into the cave for in depth hands on review?

    • rui

      soon as in tomorrow soon? 😉

    • Ben

      Ray, first time responding to one of your posts but I read your reviews all of the time and make purchases (replaced vector 3 pedals with Assioma pedals 2 weeks ago because of your review) based upon your reviews. In regards to this discussion: I just spent $500 refurbishing my road bike because of wear and tear from the trainer.

      1) For these smart trainer bikes (Tacx, Stages, and Wahoo), what is the expected maintenance costs and needs? I read that for Stages they can go 10 years with their studio bikes with no maintenance. That is significant savings. What about the others?

      2) What are the warranties on these bikes?

      3) In your opinion, is the Wahoo worth the extra $600 over the Stages bike? The only advantages I see for the Wahoo are: (a) picture for fitting and (b) incline/decline simulating, (c) motor for decline. For Stages it looks like they have more advantages: (a) Incline 25% vs 20% for Wahoo, (b) Bigger fly wheel, (c) Less likely to have a thigh rub, (d) left/right power measurements, and (e) more sturdy bike.

      Can you please let me know if my understanding is correct and any thoughts you might have?
      Thanks..

    • bob

      I see that Clever training is now taking preorders with early April expected delivery.
      I have not seen updates from Stages yet and I remember what happened last time CT took orders on a bike. I hope they deliver, honor commitments and communicate better this time. So. I am hesitant to take the plunge without other confirmation.
      ANy insights?

    • Paul Maunder

      In the UK all the sites say April 30th for delivery plus the cost has gone up by £200 (2500 to 2700). It was already expensive and I think this might have tipped it into too expensive territory for me!

    • Rumor is a bike is headed my way today.

      As for CT, I chatted with them last night. They have bikes allocated to them, sitting in a warehouse already in California, with shipping lined up to go out next week – short of something shifting from Stages.

      Generally speaking, CT is pretty conservative with order dates, usually adding a bit to the date manufs give them for padding. As we’ve seen by all companies – making smart bikes is hard. So when manufs only deliver a fraction of the bikes they promised (CT places set pre-order numbers for all bikes they sell, well before a bike is even announced) – there’s little CT can do.

      But in this case, i have pretty darn high confidence that these bikes will go out immediately, assuming no Stages-specific snag in the next few days.

      I’m optimistic I’ll see one on this side of the pond at the DCR Cave next week, dependent on it not running into any international shipping/logistical issues given world circumstances.

    • David Kelly

      Ray,

      Any idea how these are being shipped? Are they coming via freight or one of the main carriers. I am trying to figure out how to get one into my house. Freight carriers tend to drop things at the curb vs FedEx who would put it in my garage.

      While I am writing this I see an email just arrived from Stages announcing their availability.

    • Freight. Sorta.

      If I remember correctly from the call (it was 1AM my time) for Clever Training specifically, the plan is that it’s a blend of white glove with normal freight. So it’s not quite Peloton where they set it all up, but it’s not normal freight where they just drop it near the curb and call it done. The plan/courier CT is using brings it inside, but I can’t remember if they also went up stairs or not.

    • JR36

      Hi Ray,

      Can you comment on the quietness/noise level on the Stages? Is it Peloton spin bike quiet or closer to the other indoor bikes?

      Do you know CT/Stages return policy? I emailed Stages for an answer.

      When do you expect to get out a full review? I’m trying to convince my Lifecycle/gym bike riding wife we’ll both enjoy the Stages more than a Peloton.

    • All the times I’ve had to try the bike have been in an outdoor or convention center setting, so honestly it’s hard to tell. Hopefully I’ll have clarity on that soon in-person.

      CT I believe is 60 days off the top of my head.

      I expect a full review about two weeks after I receive it.

    • JR36

      Thanks. It sounds like the Stages passes the sleeping baby test. @3:20 link to youtube.com

  29. Rusty Austin

    If you go onto YouTube and lookup the channel for ‘Sean Coffey’ there are a couple of videos on the bike – one of which shows the full assembly process.