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As you say, machine learning training programmes are ten a penny now, I’ve used Garmin adaptive training plans, Garmin daily suggested workouts (with race event in calendar) and TrainAsOne. The last one i seem to prefer, but i suppose it’s down to personal preference. Does Runna simply become Strava’s equivalent of Garmins latest daily suggested workouts. In which case where’s the value in Runna for those who use Garmin devices?
Interestingly I used Grok3 to devise a strength conditioning regime for me as a runner and it’s done a cracking job.
I just want something that really integrates running and cycling. So far all the big players make you choose a triathlon plan and “just replace the swims”. Haven’t found a good solution yet.
Check out Join. I am currently using them for an integrated Running/Cycling plan.
I’m using join but not quite impressed with it. As a newer cyclist, but strong runner, it seems to underestimate the impact of cycling intensity for me and overestimate how running impacts me. Like it’ll give me hard rides even a day after a ride that wears me out, but a chill run and it’ll skip a ride the next day. Even after adjusting RPE etc.
I haven’t personally used it but Join Cycling has a running program designed for cyclist.
or use 2peak – this one is on the market for ages and works perfectly well.
FAQ’s don’t seem to say anything about duathlon and only focuses on cycling or running, not both?
I thought this seemed like a smart acquisition because it pulled the Runna users into Strava Premium, which actually costs less per month/year than Runna does…but then realized that they’re keeping the app separate.
‘At the same time, in 2025, apps doing AI-generated training plans are a dime a dozen. …. While generic AI is hardly perfect, in general, it delivers pretty good training plan recommendations.’
This is true, but it feels unfair to Runna since it is more a ccomment on the product category instead of the quality of the product within the category.
Sports tech reviews are a dime a dozen but I keep coming back here because you do it better than pretty much everyone else.
Runna is in a similar position. I used a lot of AI training apps before settling on them, and while the app isn’t perfect (not incorporating elevation, HR, power etc) it is in my opinion one of the better offerings in the category and not something any compay could quickly whip up.
Have a look at RunMotion. That is the best “AI bot” I have experienced so far (beyond Garmin, Humango or Runna – Strava worthless so far). 1/ they let you share notes with the bot after a workout (“shortened the workout because not feeling great”) and the bot actually takes this into account in the analysis of your workout (not just regurgitating what you shared with it). Runna only allows you to give a thumbs up or down “what did you think” before giving you partly useful feebdack. 2/ the bot includes advice and encouragement in a very relatable human format (feels like a whatsapp with a coach rather than a blocky condescending paragraph). 3/ the content ranges from nutrition to sleep, mindset to plyometrics.
I agree with you though, Runna is on the better end of the range of the “dime a dozen”.
“This is true, but it feels unfair to Runna since it is more a ccomment on the product category instead of the quality of the product within the category.”
Not sure I follow, the literal sentence before that was: “On one hand, Runna’s product is well refined, looks clean, and pushes well into the running watch industry.”
Nonetheless, again, AI training companies are a dime a dozen in 2025. I’m not seeing anything (in 2025) that’s substantially unique here at the core training plan level, relative to the competitive landscape of 2025. Sure, back 3-4 years ago they might have been better than others. As I noted though, their unique prop in 2025 is really more the wrapper than the core training bits (aspects like the UI, watch integration, etc… which others are still working through).
But in Strava’s case, despite what they’re partially saying, they will absolutely take that core and place it into Strava’s main app. Frankly, if they don’t, I’d be upset as a Strava investor. What makes this acquisition appealing is being able to do that and basically still cover your costs via keeping Runna functioning (as opposed to hiring a bunch more devs to re-create it). Additionally, there’s some branding/PR value from the Runna name in certain markets (though, I think less than some tech media would have you believe).
“Meaning that Strava can effectively integrate this technology into it’s main app over time, without taking a financial hit as log as they don’t piss off Runna users (who will keep paying, and probably expand with the additional attention.”
“as long”, I guess… and you are missing a parentheses there…
And… most importantly, I am confident that Strava will be pissing of Runna users, I am pretty sure they’ll find a way :-D
There seems to have been a bunch of acquisitions but poor integration into the current app.
Well I’ve cancelled on hearing this. Strava will find a way to destroy it.
Runna stands out for being very profitable whilst taking on very little investment. It has been a real success story and has a great design language and approach to integrations. In their accounts filed last Jan they had £8 million in cash. Very impressive for a 3 year old company.
Runna has been thrown quite a bit of venture capital, and has ‘splashed the cash’ wisely. It has 150 staff members, so bloated for what it is.
Strava, in my view, will pick it to pieces, and then incorporate the good bits into its own product, and make it work for all Strava disciplines.
totally agree with you. there are tons of AI programs. What I don’t get why Strava didn’t acquire running.COACH. this one has def. the better system and with 200k users what they claim also bigger user db.
I would be very surprised if Strava would not assimilate Runna’s technology inside its own platform. I guess it makes sense to keep both boats flowing while they figure out the details, but this has to be fused inside Strava at some point.
I wonder if larger user base of Strava (I’m sure it has more Strava Premium users than Runna) would allow Strava to give all Runna features for little to no extra cost and still keep the Runna team happy and paid.
But in general it looks like a good thing – for Strava, that will help them to realize their ambitions of becoming a universal hub for all things sport with better training plans (yes, they had training plans before but those were horrible at best) and better compete with Garmins of the world. And the users will get even more fine-tuned training plans that will take into account all their Strava activities and not just running.
Well I guess if Strava do manage to integrate this into their premium offering (and it works), I would be prepared to pay a slightly higher subscription for the added value. I’m feeling mildly positive about this acquisition but also concerned they will revert to type and piss off everybody in the end. It’s going to be interesting!
Curious to hear how much Strava paid. If the 90k user number is just a little inflated, revenue should be close to $10mil.
@Ray: since you mentioned Komoot’s “crazy-pants” price, did you use the number from the recent Manager Magazine article ($300m) or got some other insight? Right after the purchase the number floating around the German startup scene was 50m€ (slightly above revenue). The Manager Magazine number shocked everyone.
The number I heard was from another source that was part of some rounds of talks, predating Manager Magazine by a few weeks. But the same approx number.
There are so many AI coaching platforms for triathlon now. Would be great to see some of those reviewed eg Final Surge,
Doesn’t Strava already integrate with McMillan running to allow users to generate generic training plans? This seems duplicative, but perhaps I’m missing something.
I suspect Runna users are already on Strava, and the subscriber base is not the goal of the acquisition.
I believe Strava has actually (for once) listened to feedback and realized the AI they’ve stoodup inhouse sucks and won’t get any better without colossal investment. They looked around for an organization that’s created a stable, more-or-less profitable and demonstrably well received AI system AND is willing to sell – essentially they’ve bought the tech they want off the shelf.
Strava is trying to position itself as a one-stop-shop for weekend endurance warriors, and bringing training plans inhouse on a shoestring operational budget (read: automated) is crucial to that goal.
A bit of topic. Aside from Humango, which other triathlon AI app do you know of?
Tridot seems pretty comprehensive but expensive. I heard of Final surge, Humango, TriQ, 2Peak…probably more out there. Would love to see a comparison review of these platforms. And also don‘t understand why Garmin doesn‘t offer more Tri-specific training, like they do for Running and Cycling separately. Maybe thats where GarminConnect+ is going?
Last year I used TriDot. Now I’m testing AI Endurance. And I also know human go.
here one comparison (google translated): link to blog-runningcoach-me.translate.goog
Athletica.ai has a number of programs but was really built around tri. Different platforms have different philosophies at their base, so you might need to research to figure out which aligns with your training beliefs.