Heads up – Big Garmin sales are out!!! The Garmin Fenix 8 is $250 off, the Forerunner 965 is $150, the Garmin inReach Mini 2 is $249, and a ton of other Garmin gear has substantial discounts! Go check out the full list here!
The Week in Review is a collection of both all the goodness I’ve written during the past week around the internet, as well as a small pile of links I found interesting – generally endurance sports related. I’ve often wondered what to do with all of the coolness that people write, and while I share a lot of it on Twitter and Facebook, this is a better forum for sending it on to y’all. Most times these different streams don’t overlap, so be on the lookout at all these places for good stuff!
This is the first major sale for the Apple Watch SE 3, which came out just 2 months ago. It's essentially Apple's 'budget' offering, yet it still has all the same software features as a higher-end Apple Watch Series 11, as long as the hardware permits.
This is the first time we've seen the Apple Watch Ultra 3 on sale, and given it's $100 off, that tends to be the typical sale price for the holidays/Black Friday for the current/just-released version.
This is the activity tracker that both of our oldest daughters have used for years (age 8 & 9), as well as most of their friends now. They/we all like it. Check out my full in-depth review for all my thoughts. That said, the new Bounce 2 came out two months ago, and while my review isn't out yet, it's a far better product. But, quite a bit more too. The TLDR on that review will be that it's the best kids smartwatch/tracker to date (for both parents and kids), but obviously will cost you $100 more.
⚡This is a very solid deal, and is still one of the best bike computers Garmin has ever made, especially when you look at the battery side of things (it lasts far longer than the Edge 1050).
⚡At $249, it's pretty much impossible to beat this deal in terms of bike computers. There's no competitive option that beats it on features/battery/etc at this price, or frankly anywhere near it. Sure, it doesn't have a touchscreen, but it's not as bad as it used to be (I did a stint on it this winter for a week or so, and was fine).
⚡⚡This is the lowest price we've seen on the Garmin Edge 540 Solar to date, which has gained virtually all of the new Garmin Edge 1050 features as well. And notably, lower than the Edge 540 without solar (which is kinda silly, but hey, win for us!).
This is the lowest price we've seen on this to date. The Enduro 3 is simply the Fenix 8 with a MIP/Solar display (but without the scuba or voice calling features). It gets all the Fenix 8 features and updates otherwise.
⚡⚡⚡ This is a fantastic deal. By far the lowest price we've seen this! The Epix Pro has a flashlight which the regular Epix lacks, plus the newer Garmin Elevate Gen5 optical HR sensor with ECG support.
⚡⚡⚡ This is a fantastic deal. By far the lowest price we've seen this! The Epix Pro has a flashlight which the regular Epix lacks, plus the newer Garmin Elevate Gen5 optical HR sensor with ECG support. Note: Availability on this deal fluctuates, just keep checking back, I'm sure it'll pop back again (it always does).
⚡ If you wanted the battery life of a Fenix MIP series without the cost of a Fenix 8, this is basically your best deal. Plus, unlike the base Fenix 7 series, the Pro series includes the flashlight and Gen5 HR sensor with ECG.
⚡ If you wanted the battery life of a Fenix MIP series without the cost of a Fenix 8, this is basically your best deal. Plus, unlike the base Fenix 7 series, the Pro series includes the flashlight and Gen5 HR sensor with ECG.
⚡ This is very unexpected, and is an Amazon-specific deal, not a Garmin-supported one. Thus, I expect it won't last more than minutes/hours. Grab it while you can!
⚡ The Fenix 8 keeps getting all the new software features of the Fenix 8 Pro that was launched two months ago. Setting aside that Fenix 8 Pro which gained LTE & Satellite Messaging, this is otherwise the most capable sports watch on the market.
⚡ The Fenix 8 keeps getting all the new software features of the Fenix 8 Pro that was launched two months ago. Setting aside that Fenix 8 Pro which gained LTE & Satellite Messaging, this is otherwise the most capable sports watch on the market.
As a general rule, the Fenix E is the watch that literally nobody is buying, and makes no sense at higher prices. The hardware is simply the Epix Gen 2 with Fenix stamped on it. That watch is going for $400, though I expect we'll see it down to $300 over Black Friday. However, one *KEY* difference with the Fenix E, is that it includes all of the software features of the newer Fenix 8, whereas the Epix Gen 2 doesn't get all the new software features. Otherwise, save your $200.
⚡ This is (by far) the lowest price on the Forerunner 265, which was recently replaced by the Forerunner 570 (but at nearly twice this price). What's fascinating about this sale price, is it's well beyond the usual sale prices for Garmin for this product. This pricing is 100% an Kansas-themed 'Hello!' to COROS and their just released COROS Pace 4 at $249.
The Foreurnner 55 is a great option if you simply don't want to spend a ton, but still want a super-capable runners watch (and general activity/sleep tracking watch). I've heard a lot of you get it for teenagers that run, as a great/inexpensive way to track their runs, and still be a good everyday watch.
This is the lowest price to date on the Forerunner 965, which is logical given the Forerunner 970 came out this past spring (which essentialy adds a flashlight and some other running metrics/features).
The Garmin Inded BPM is Garmin's medically certified blood pressure monitor. It integrates directly into your Garmin Connect account. I use it on occasion as a comparison for wearables, and it works just fine (obviously it's already medically certified by the FDA, so I say 'works' here in the sense of usability/functionality/etc...).
The Instinct 3 series came out earlier this year, with both an AMOLED and Solar variants. The big upgrade over the previous editions is the inclusion of the flashlight in all sizes, and a massive ugprade of sports features.
The Instinct 3 series came out earlier this year, and the Solar edition in particular has 'unlimited' battery life in certain scenarios. The big upgrade over the previous editions is the inclusion of the flashlight in all sizes, and a massive ugprade of sports features.
This is Garmin's radar without the light, so it's a bit smaller as a result. Same radar tech though, and compatible with Garmin/COROS/Hammerhead/Wahoo bike computers.
This is Garmin's standalone radar+taillight option, and $149 is pretty much the standard sale-price. Even despite all the new radars out there, this remains the most accurate option on the market. Now, only if Garmin would just re-release it with USB-C. C'Mon Garmin...maybe next year?
This is the first time this product has been on sale, since launching last spring. I'd argue it could have used a $100 off sale...but hey...they don't consult me.
⚡ This is the lowest price we've seen on the newest product in the entire Garmin Holiday 2025 sale lineup. This is basically a blend of a Forerunner 970, Venu 4, and Fenix 8...but super thin. It's argueably one of the best deals here at $599, though, Garmin is still clearly trying to figure out the right pricing to drive purchases.
⚡ This is the first time we've seen the Vivoactive 6 on sale, which is essentially a Venu 4, but without the voice/calling/ECG features (and a few other tidbits). It's probably one of the best deals in Garmin's lineup (sale or otherwise).
⚡ This is the lowest price we've ever seen for this. This is my defacto satellite communicator when out of coverage area, and I've used it on a number of major treks over the past two years when well outside of cellular service, both in a 24x7 tracking mode for friends and family, but also there in case of emergency. Would strongly recommend for anyone doing anything in the wilderness.
This came out last fall, and is the second time this has been discounted, but now to the lowest price to date. The key difference with the new Plus model is that it adds the ability to send photos and voice messenges via satellite. I've used it a bit, and it's pretty cool because it makes it a lot faster to just say something rather than type it out, but the $499 price seemed excessive. $399 makes it slightly more palatable.
This is the go-to sales price for the NEO 2T, though has become more frequent over the past year. It's still an incredible trainer, and is the top-end non-moving trainer from Garmin/Tacx.
⚡ This is the lowest price we've seen to date on the Tacx NEO 3M, and finally takes it down to a semi-logical price (compared to it's competitors). This is a good buy, and obviously, given it's only a year old, I definitely don't expectany sort of new version of this anytime soon (the last NEO series unit was about 5 years between versions).
⚡ This is a very solid deal for this bike, and the lowest price to date. I actually like the KICKR BIKE SHIFT more than the higher-end KICKR BIKE V2/Pro, mainly because it's both quiter, and seems to be more resillient to issues (less complex design).
Stuff I Found Interesting around the Interwebs:
Here’s a smattering of all the random things that I stumbled on while doing my civic duty to find the end of the Internet:
1) Zwift now natively supports Apple Metal graphics engine 4K profiles: This is notable. Like, hugely notable. Tariq did a good video on it, that’s worthwhile watching (or, worthwhile watching if you want to know how much the Burrito just changed by). Given that Zwift dragged their heels on this for basically nearly 2 years, some have speculated that there might be some tie-ins here between Zwift finally releasing this, and Apple’s upcoming WWDC conference in a few weeks, where the company will announce an AR/VR headset (which would require Metal as a starting point for any game). I guess we’ll just have to see…
2) Peloton expands seat-post recall to Canada: And interestingly, they specified the weight/height combos that resulted in breakages for the 35 cases to date. Note that statistically speaking, you’re actually more likely to get hit by lightning than break a Peloton seat post (1 in 62,857 for Peloton, vs 1 in 15,300 for lightning). Also notable, the UK/EU/AUS units are still oddly excluded from the recall. I find it exceptionally hard to believe those seat posts are any different.
3)Security Researcher Deep-Dive into Connect IQ Security Bugs (and Fixes): This is an incredibly deep-dive article, from a security researcher that has been working with Garmin (via industry standard responsible disclosure) to find and get Garmin to fix a number of Connect IQ security issues over the years. Most of these are pretty much standard bugs that cause overflows which allow access to other areas on the watch. The process outlined here is also standard-issue stuff in the IT world (both the issues, and the fixes). In other words, responsible disclosure of security bugs and a company’s response worked exactly as it should here – and also, exactly as it does with other big-name companies day in and day out (Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc…). (H/T to Brian R. for sending over)
4) The Giro Never Disappoints: No, I’m not talking about the on-course racing – but rather, all the theatrics that happen at the event.
5) Wear OS 4 Hopes for Better Battery Life: If there’s one constant in Wear OS, it’s the hope for better battery life. And to be fair, Wear OS 3 actually isn’t that bad compared to their competitors in that realm. This post outlines what’s coming, but the big ticket item aside from battery life is the ability to finally backup and restore your watch (versus a factory reset).
7) Polar’s New Outlet Store: I’ve been quietly watching this for the last month or so, since Polar half-announced it on their blog. Since then, I’ve gotten a number of e-mails of Polar Outlet deals. It’s a little perplexing to me, as it seems like Polar is actually discounting basically all of their budget to mid-range products on the site, at varying rates of 20-50% (including the Polar Pacer Pro). Effectively, the only thing not discounted thus far has been the Grit X Pro. Albeit, Amazon can take care of that for you. It’s an interesting approach, undoubtedly aimed at reducing commissions paid out to retailers by offering deals direct to consumers.
Polar Outlet looks interesting. At least for some items, the discount is applied to some colors but not all. Also, the FAQ says that the outlet is not available for deliveries to the US.
You said regarding the Polar Outlet Store, ‘It’s an interesting approach, undoubtedly aimed at reducing commissions paid out to retailers by offering deals direct to consumers.’
I’ve noticed that neither the FR965 nor the 265 have (yet?) appeared on Amazon UK. I wonder if it is just a supply issue or if something else is going on? You can order them in the UK direct from Garmin and from some other retailers.
It seems to be a clear Garmin decision to not launch it on Amazon for some reason, likely to appease running-specific retailers. It hasn’t been launched on any Amazon sites (either the FR265 or FR965). It was never launched on Amazon, so not even a case of out of stock.
It’s easily available from Garmin themselves, as well as other retailers (even same-day pickup in my area).
Inversely, Garmin has launched other products recently on Amazon day-zero. So, not sure exactly what the full strategy is there. And yet further, some products like the Garmin Bounce remain Garmin.com exclusive (perhaps to try and mitigate confusion with the LTE contract piece, but that seems like a pretty thin excuse – my guess is actually margins).
I imagine at some point it’ll show up. I just don’t know what that point is. Garmin has done retailer exclusive stuff here and there in the past. Usually it’s on a 60/90/etc day timeframe.
Honestly, it’s never really made sense to me business-wise. Certainly, I benefit from it being on Amazon – but realistically, I also benefit when it’s on REI/Wiggle/etc (as it is). Still, I’ve never understood why *any company* thinks removing the world’s biggest channel to purchasing products will somehow increase sales. Sure, if we were talking a highly constrained product, then go forth. But we’re not. It’s easily stocked elsewhere.
The easy-button of tapping an Amazon button and trusting the system to show up the next day is something a lot of consumers gravitate towards, especially for impulse type purchases. Such as having a race this weekend and deciding ‘sure, I’ll buy it, cause I know it’s here tomorrow from Amazon’.
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Polar Outlet looks interesting. At least for some items, the discount is applied to some colors but not all. Also, the FAQ says that the outlet is not available for deliveries to the US.
Will a graphics upgrade for Zwift on Apple TV follow zoon?……👀
You said regarding the Polar Outlet Store, ‘It’s an interesting approach, undoubtedly aimed at reducing commissions paid out to retailers by offering deals direct to consumers.’
I’ve noticed that neither the FR965 nor the 265 have (yet?) appeared on Amazon UK. I wonder if it is just a supply issue or if something else is going on? You can order them in the UK direct from Garmin and from some other retailers.
It seems to be a clear Garmin decision to not launch it on Amazon for some reason, likely to appease running-specific retailers. It hasn’t been launched on any Amazon sites (either the FR265 or FR965). It was never launched on Amazon, so not even a case of out of stock.
It’s easily available from Garmin themselves, as well as other retailers (even same-day pickup in my area).
Inversely, Garmin has launched other products recently on Amazon day-zero. So, not sure exactly what the full strategy is there. And yet further, some products like the Garmin Bounce remain Garmin.com exclusive (perhaps to try and mitigate confusion with the LTE contract piece, but that seems like a pretty thin excuse – my guess is actually margins).
That’s what I suspected. Oh well, no crazily cheap Amazon Warehouse deals then!
I imagine at some point it’ll show up. I just don’t know what that point is. Garmin has done retailer exclusive stuff here and there in the past. Usually it’s on a 60/90/etc day timeframe.
Honestly, it’s never really made sense to me business-wise. Certainly, I benefit from it being on Amazon – but realistically, I also benefit when it’s on REI/Wiggle/etc (as it is). Still, I’ve never understood why *any company* thinks removing the world’s biggest channel to purchasing products will somehow increase sales. Sure, if we were talking a highly constrained product, then go forth. But we’re not. It’s easily stocked elsewhere.
The easy-button of tapping an Amazon button and trusting the system to show up the next day is something a lot of consumers gravitate towards, especially for impulse type purchases. Such as having a race this weekend and deciding ‘sure, I’ll buy it, cause I know it’s here tomorrow from Amazon’.
Anyways…
Meanwhile, Garmin is taking a cue from Apple and starting to dump inventory on Woot, an Amazon subsidiary. How does that make sense?
Polar is discounting here as well
link to sport.woot.com
“Also notable, the UK/EU/AUS units are still oddly excluded from the recall.”
I would cynically point out that personal injury judgements are typically much lower.