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How to Sideload Android Apps On Your Hammerhead Karoo 1 & Karoo 2

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Without hesitation or question, my favorite feature of the Hammerhead Karoo series (such as the newer Karoo 2) is the ability to record the screen – allowing me to show you exactly what I’m seeing. It enables me to get a crystal clear recording of things in real-time, even letting me merge it with GoPro footage to make explainer ride-along videos like this. It’s awesome, and I’d basically trade any other feature on a Wahoo or Garmin GPS to get that functionality there too.

However, while screen recording functionality isn’t really something most of you care about. Myself and a few other reviewers – sure. But not most of you. But the way I do it is applicable to more of you, as it’s ultimately just loading Android apps on the Karoo 2. That’s because the Karoo series bike computer (1 and 2) are simply Android devices. Sure, you don’t really see it in any overtly obvious way for most people.

With the Karoo 2 shipments going out full speed now, I’ve seen more and more questions on how I sideload apps. Up until this point, I’ve just been pointing people at my Peloton sideloading apps instructions, but I figured I’d write something more specific here.

Note that sideloading apps means that you can load something like the Zwift Companion app, or TrainerRoad, or any other Android app you can think of. Heck, TikTok I suppose. Whether or not there’s any actual non-gee value in doing so will depend on your requirements. To each your own, I won’t judge you….too much. You do you!

If you’re tech savvy, the overall install process is pretty easy – about 10 mins for the first app you load, and about 2-3 mins for each additional app. If you’re familiar with sideloading Android apps, then it’s trivial. Whereas if you come from the iOS world, you’ll probably scratch your head a few times but keep on chuggin’. To my knowledge, there is nothing here that ‘voids’ your Karoo warranty per se (at worst you simply reset your screen to defaults).

The Foundational Bits:

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Estimated Time: 5-10 mins

These first steps are required no matter what app you’re installing. And realistically this would be the same whether it was Zwift Companion App, TrainerRoad, or Netflix. Note that there are numerous ways to slice the Android onion. For example, you could add a new loader instead, and then switch back and forth, but frankly I just find that too much juggling. I just want the darn app available right next to other Karoo features.

Note: I’m writing these instructions using a PC because I’m mostly a PC guy. But if someone writes these foundational instructions for Mac, I’m happy to include them.

1A) Karoo 1 Units: You need a micro-USB cable, specifically one that supports data. Most support data, but not all. If you happen to have had a Garmin bike computer prior, it’ll actually say ‘GARMIN’ on the cable, and that’s a way to know 100% it supports data. There isn’t any great way of knowing if your cable is a data one, or charge-only. If it’s charge-only, then the computer will only charge it, but can’t access data.

1B) Karoo 2 Units: You’ll need a USB-C cable, which, is what came with your Karoo 2. That’s a great cable to use. If you have a computer with only USB-C ports though, you’ll by now have noticed the Karoo 2 cable only has USB-C at one end. Thus, you’ll either need a USB-C to USB-C cable, or a USB-C dongle. Likely though, if you’ve got a computer with only USB-C ports, you’ve probably already bought a USB-C dongle a long time ago.

2) Next, turn on developer mode on the Karoo:

A) Power on the Karoo
B) Swipe to ‘Settings’ in the lower bar, then all the way down to ‘About’, and then tap the ‘Build Number’ box repeatedly until it says you’re a Developer
C) If you press back once, you should see ‘Developer Options’ showing now, tap to open the ‘Developer Options’

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D) Scroll down to ‘USB debugging’ and enable that, this is basically how you get apps on your Karoo.

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(Note: For Step 3, I’ve split it out into PC & Mac Instructions – all other steps are the same, scroll down slightly for the Step 3 Mac instructions. Thanks for a DCR Reader for sending in the Mac instructions)

3) PC Instructions: Next, we need to install the Android Developer tools on your Windows computer. Select the option that says ‘Download SDK Platform-tools for Windows’. To ‘install’ them, you’re basically just copying the contents to a folder. In my case, to keep things simple, I’ve created a folder called ‘Android’ on my computer:

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(Note: It may unzip into a folder called ‘Platform-Tools’, that’s fine. I just put everything into the Android folder for simplicity here. Also, as you’ll see in a second, I created a folder calls ‘Apps’ inside it, where I stash all my apps.)

3) Mac Instructions: Next, we need to install the Android Developer Tools. Download the tools from here and select the download for Mac.  By default, this will download to you Downloads folder. To ‘install’ them, you’re basically just copying the contents to a folder. In my case, to keep things simple, I’ve created a folder called ‘Android’ on my computer.

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After double-clicking on the downloaded zip file, the platform-tools directory is created in the same location.  In the platform-tools directory, you can see the adb (Android Debug Bridge), which is used to side-load the applications.  The below diagram shows the resulting expanded zip file which created the platform-tools directory.

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You will be accessing the adb utility from the command line.  You must either run adb by pathing to it directly or by adding it to your path.  We’ll assume you can add it to your path if you are inclined to that option.  We’ll show the direct pathing option in this example.

The screen-shot below shows that we have navigated to the platform-tools directory that we created in the above steps.  We run ./adb devices from that location and see the serial number of the attached Karoo 2.  Several fields have been blocked out to obscure personal information.

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Now that we have shown adb is able to see Karoo 2, continue with the instructions.  When calling the adb tool (assuming you didn’t add it to your path) remember to use the linux ./adb form to run the utility.

4) Now, plug your Karoo into your computer using that USB cable. By default it won’t actually show as a USB drive or such on your computer. That’s OK, and isn’t needed for loading apps. But I kinda like it for other purposes (like getting my screen recordings). So, in case you want it to show up, simply go back to the Developer Options, and scroll-down a ton until you find ‘Select USB Configuration’, and change it to MTP (Media Transfer Protocol):

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You should now see your Karoo up on your computer. It’ll simply be named k2. Note that I’ve noticed that for whatever reason, this setting doesn’t seem to save each time I power off the Karoo 2 (whereas it does save on some of my other Android devices). I’m sure some Android person could tell me why this is. Just an FYI for next time.

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5) Now, open up a Command Prompt, and get to the same directory as where you installed all these files. In my case, that’s the Android folder on my C:\ drive (for Mac people, you’ll type: ./adb devices instead)

Then once there type: adb.exe devices

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6) You’ll get a prompt on your Karoo to authorize that request from your computer, press to accept (and probably check that box to make your life easier in the future).

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7) Now, for PC people type the command again: adb.exe devices

For Mac people, type: ./adb devices

You’ll see this time it shows a device returned (KAROO20ALA091100544), which simply means it successfully connected to my Karoo.

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Ok, with these steps done we’re ready to install *ANY* app you want. In other words, you accomplished the hard part. Now it’s easy from here on out!

Example App Install:

Estimated time: 5-10 minutes

I’m going to use the Zwift Companion App here, just because it looks pretty. Practically speaking, doing TrainerRoad is probably more useful (but, I documented how to do that already in my Peloton side-loading post). I’ll warn you that while the Zwift Companion app works just fine, I personally find it a bit small on the Karoo 2, especially for some of the navigational bits. But that’s besides the point, the process is *EXACTLY* the same no matter which app you use.

The way ‘side-loading’ works is that Android apps come in an APK file, which is basically a self-contained file that includes the entire apps. Mostly (there are some exceptions, such as the full Zwift install – but I also cover that in my Peloton bike post too, in the Zwift section). No matter the app, you need to get the self-contained APK file. That’s because the Karoo doesn’t simply have the Google Play store installed, we’ll need to use 3rd party sites to download these same APK files. Sometimes companies will also make them available easily too.

In the case of the Zwift Companion App, the APK file is available from PureAPK. It shows the most recent/current Android version from December 29th, 2020 (the most recent version as of this writing).

(Note: Anytime you download an app from a 3rd party service, you risk a scenario where the 3rd party app is compromised. That’s a pretty darn low chance here, but just want to be aware of that.)

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Now, download that APK file into that Android folder. I created an ‘Apps’ folder to make my life more organized, but you don’t need to.

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Ok, back to your command prompt and type the below and press enter:

adb.exe install “Apps\Zwift Companion_v3.21.0_apkpure.com.apk”

(Pro Tip: Just type: Adb install apps\Zwift and then hit tab, it’ll do the rest for you.)

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It’ll come back with ‘Success’ a few seconds later.

Now, back on your Karoo simply swipe along the bottom and you’ll notice you’ll now have an extra ‘dot’, showing the Zwift Companion App installed. To state the obvious, tap it to open the app:

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And here it is, opened up, ready to use:

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Once you’ve signed in you’re ready to use it just like normal:

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Note that for the Zwift Companion app specifically, the Dashboard/Zwifters/Messages pages tend to work best, whereas the map page is a bit more funky because of the small screen size. It works, but your metrics sorta overlay atop 2/3rds the map.

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If you want to use Bluetooth sensors from the Zwift Companion app, then you’ll get a pop-up requiring you grant the location permissions. This is due to a weird quirk in how Android grants permission to the Bluetooth stack:

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(Note: While the Karoo does support pairing to ANT+ sensors, the underlying Zwift Companion app doesn’t support ANT+ sensor bridging, unfortunately.)

With that, you’re ready to roll!

Also, for some apps, you may need to manually grant permission to use sensors (like Bluetooth or ANT+), storage, or location (via GPS). Most apps will pop-up and ask you to approve, but some apps like the full Zwift install will fail if you don’t manually approve them (in my experience). You can always manually approve apps by going to Settings > Apps > [Then your app] > Permissions, and you can give it whichever permissions it needs:

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In my experience, the two most common ones are:

A) Location: Used for GPS and Bluetooth sensors
B) Storage: Used for writing to the file system

But I’ve also seen the quirky camera permission come up here and there, when an app may use that for taking screenshots. Go forth and enjoy!

Oh, and if you need to get out out of the app, simply hit the lower-left button (back), which gets you back to the Karoo screen. Remember just like on your phone, this app is still running in the background though. But, this does allow you to switch back and forth between apps.

Wrap-Up:

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Now before we wrap-up, I’d be remiss if I didn’t note that since Hammerhead’s first Karoo announcement, a core tenet of why they’ve developed on Android was to try and get 3rd party apps to develop for the Karoo more natively. By using Android as the base, it would require minimal effort compared to developing an app for Connect IQ on Garmin (for example). If an app were to become natively compatible, you wouldn’t need to mess with any of this. It’d just likely show up on your Karoo unit without all the fuss – just like apps/features do on other platforms.  Hammerhead has said they expect to announce their first 3rd party app here soon, so hopefully that’ll usher more apps to consider adding compatibility. And while the Karoo 2 isn’t fundamentally that different than the Karoo 1 (they run the same software), the reality is that Hammerhead didn’t have any inventory to sell and ship for basically a year – so their market share would have been a challenge proposition to convince 3rd party companies/apps.

But I think that’s going to change over the course of 2021, and the amount of native features they have now compared to even one year ago, let alone 2-3 years ago – is vastly different. Of course, that’s all besides the point here on this geeky post.

With that – I leave you to go back and install other Android apps that have no purpose being on a bike computer, because if it’s anything a bunch of geeks do best, it’s creating solutions for problems that didn’t exist. Now, back to my screen recorder. 😉

Thanks for reading!

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88 Comments

  1. Jon S

    This does look like a real advantage of using a device based on Android, offereing something that Connect IQ will never realistically be able to compete with.

    (p.s first para of Wrap-up – I think it should be a core tenet not tenant) 😉

    • Indeed, there are pros and cons to this. The big pro is flexibility to do geeky things (like my screen recording), or even practical things (like running other training apps). Or further, an easier development path for 3rd party app developers.

      The con of course (aside from getting developers onboard), is battery life is far harsher on Android relative to CIQ apps (or the Wahoo method of native integrations). Practically, with a device this size it’s not as big an issue as it is on a wearable (where we see this play-out more clearly in Wear OS vs CIQ).

      But I think it’s cool nonetheless!

      Thanks for the typo, fixed!

    • Saulius

      Step 4: MTB (?autocorrect?) Media Transfer Protocol

    • Haha…autocorrect for the…err…Win!?!

    • Chillfmm

      Wahoo Element, Elemnt Bolt and Elemnt Roam devices are also Android devices. Details here link to joshua0.dreamwidth.org and here link to joshua0.dreamwidth.org Also some info can be found in link to groups.google.com
      However, the ancient and customized Android version used, the screens and processor make the process of sideloading apps at best not optimal.

    • schmadde

      Well, Connect IQ allows you to add custom Datafields and you cannot have those with sideloading apps.

      This feature was promised back in 2017 when I pre-ordered my Karoo by Hammerhead and is still nowhere to be found 🙁

      I take connect IQ any day over the sideload capability although I admit both would be nice. Which is why I ended up with buying an Edge 1030 finally and will get rid of my karoo.

  2. Paul S.

    Do they have the equivalent of 3rd party ConnectIQ data fields yet? I imagine that would be straightforward for them, simply displaying the output of a small app inside a small area of the screen. I routinely use 3 data fields on my Edge 830.

  3. Pete Marshall

    I run Xert on my K1. Waiting for my K2. I expect that Xert may be one of the first of the mark with a native app as it already works well.
    OsmAndMaps is also a great addition , particularly good for off road navigation.

    • @Pete
      I suspect Xert could be first too (IDK)
      I was also going to put Xert on my K1, never quite got around to it and was thinking Xert or RwGPS.

      Were there any oddities in the process of getting Xert onto the K1 eg pairing of sensor types eg after K1 firmware updates…I’m going to give it a shot on your say so 😉

      ty in advance @Pete, and ty Ray for the article.

    • Roy

      No issues with Xert on K2

    • Andrew

      There’s some detailed discussion (including photos) of Xert on the Karoo 2 here: link to forum.xertonline.com

      I want to hear more about how things are going with early adopters before I place an order, but I’m very interested.

  4. RL

    Great write up. Thanks! I just replaced my H1 with the H2. What is the process for keeping the installed side-loaded apps up to date when new versions are released?

  5. Tom Smulders

    Nice article. But what are interesting apps to sideload? Can you come up with some?

    • Pete Marshall

      I find the easiest way is to sideload the Amazon App Store and then use this to download, update and install apps directly There are the occasional app not on Amazon but if you install Opera mini you can download from other places just search in Google.
      Some have sideloaded the Google play store and Google services but it’s a bit of a pain to do. It does mean there are some apps that won’t work as they require Google play services.

    • Nigel P,

      Yup installing Google Play store and Google services requires root access, and that gets complicated. I sideloaded the APK Pure app, not sure I’m ready for root access just yet!

    • Geeceee

      I’m going to try Spotify and connect the K2 to my Aftershokz headphones.

      Should be plenty of space to download songs, and I should be able to get my Varia radar alerts nice and load that way too.

    • Tom Smulders

      I don’t understand to get that on my Karoo, when my phone works fine… Any good reasons?

    • Geeceee

      Should be able to hear the Varia better, also easier to control the music – skip tracks etc.

      Can also leave my phone at home, think of the w/kg benefit. 😉

  6. TheStansMonster

    Huh – I’ve been wondering and hoping if/when Garmin would add Zwift control (through IQ) or Wahoo would natively, that would be a pretty big convenience add. I had never considered a Karoo, but I may now.

    • I agree, there’s definitely some good potential there – especially on the touchscreen devices like an Edge 1030 or so. So much potential for a sweat-friendly app.

      I think part of that gap is that frankly, Zwift doesn’t really have a great integrations lead/department. Meaning, there’s no team of people that are responsible (as their only thing in life) for working with 3rd party companies/devices on integrations with Zwift. There’s a few people within Zwift that adhoc handle that (such as steering), but those are one of many things on their plates.

      It’s a shame.

  7. Eduardo

    Phone! Would it be possible to sideload a phone application and use the Karoo to, you know, call people or emergency services?

  8. Roy

    Performing Streamed Install
    adb.exe: filename doesn’t end .apk or .apex: apps \Zwift
    It does end with apk

    Any ideas

  9. Roy

    Update – Success
    Downloaded apk from [Aptoid]

  10. OS

    Perfec timing! Just as Googled this very topic 🙂 Thanks for the detailed article!

    • Roy

      Just rename the file when downloading from apkpure to say “Zwift” without “. That did the trick for me in the end. That other website installed a different app even though it was named Zwift, so I just uninstalled it.

    • Geeceee

      Yeah Aptoide seems super-dodgy! It installs itself rather than whatever app you think you’ve downloaded.

  11. David R

    Someone must’ve tried to sideload Garmin Connect … just because! 🙂

  12. Richard Perriss

    If you sideload a mapping app, for example, how would you run it together with the normal data screens? I presume it won’t show up as a data page.
    Also, re battery life. I have found the battery life on the K2 is not great – seems to run down at about 15% per hour (sometimes more when cold), about twice that of the K1. I think it will struggle to go beyond 5-6 hour rides.

  13. Gareth

    I was able to load Spotify, MyFitnessPal, RGT Android App (although it thinks I’m not Premium on the Karoo – I think it’s a cookie issue – will figure it out). I am going to try to get Signal running as a backup messenger.

    It looks like Strava needs Google Services. If anyone can get it to run please post here.

    • Pete Marshall

      Is your usual RGT on ios? A problem with RGT is even with the same account it only works on one OS at a time. Very silly and one of the reasons I stopped using them

    • Gareth

      No I’m on Android. I’m able to login with my credentials but it isn’t premium. (I’m still in the 14 day trial – loving it – so maybe once the real membership kicks in it will work). My phone is fine too but it would be nice to use the mount and the K2 on the trainer.

      I checked and I also was able to sideload the SRAM AXS app.

  14. Tsachi

    If you are afraid of using third party web sites to get apk files, there is a way to get it from your phone or tablet if they’re android. It’s not 100% straightforward, since apps are stored with weird names, but it’s possible to use ADB pull without root access

  15. Does this mean that you could install Google home and then cast this screen onto your TV or onto a projector?

  16. Alan Lake

    Ray, a very interesting post. Thanks.

    I am IOS and MacOS exclusively. Has anyone done this through an OS? If so, could you post the instructions? Grateful to anyone who has the knowledge as I’m a complete newbie on anything development wise. Cheers. Alan

    • Pete Marshall

      It’s exactly the same on a Mac except you need a Terminal window up on the Mac rather than the command prompt on Windows.

    • Chris

      I just installed TrainerRoad on my Karoo from my Mac. It’s very similar to what you need to do on Windows.
      Here is how I did it
      – Open a terminal and go to the platform-tools folder in the Android sdk directory (for me it was in /Users/chris/Library/Android/sdk/platform-tools)
      – Then connect to the device by typing ./adb devices
      -Finally install the APK just type ./adb install /Users/chris/Library/Android/apps/TrainerRoad_v2020.3.0.92026_apkpure.com.apk

    • The Hammerhead folks sent over an addendum of steps for the MacOS side of the house for the extra/different steps there. I’ll get it consolidated into the main post tomorrow.

      But Chris basically outlined the core of it.

      Cheers!

    • Alan Lake

      Pete, Chris &, Ray, you’re top guys. Many thanks for your replies. Just dandy!

    • Daz Rhodes

      For iMac follow PDF attached. Follow DCRainmakers instruction to place K2 into developer mode first then follow PDF instructions. Tried to make it simplest worked for me.

    • Daz Rhodes

      Guess PDF don’t upload. Try this screen shot

  17. Hermanni

    >If you want to use Bluetooth sensors from the Zwift Companion app, then you’ll get a pop-up requiring you grant the location permissions

    This is actually not a bug or something. Bluetooth access _allows_ your location to be tracked via bluetooth beacons – this is why you need to accept location permission. Of course it requires there to be some actual beacons around, but once you’ve enabled the access to bluetooth, the cat’s out of the bag in a way.

    • True, though ironically, untrue. That’s because using LightBlue or such, you can already sniff the phone and track it without that being toggled on. So really, the Bluetooth sensor bit is simply negotiation being allowed by *that app(. So in some ways, it’s actually implying the opposite – it’s allowing you to track others. 😉

      But, it’s a great example of a poorly worded permission UI.

  18. Goodman

    Great Work! How do deinstall apps? For example I tried Strava. Don’t work. Now I wantto delete it on my Karoo 1. Komoot works well!

    • Pete Marshall

      See photos
      Go to your launcher. If you didn’t install an alternative launcher do so. I recommend Nova
      Select apps
      Select the app you want to uninstall.

    • Pete Marshall

      You can also find apps in the k’s own settings and delete there.

    • Bernie Pottrell

      Or you can simply long press the app icon and a trash bin icon appears next to the upper right hand button. Just simply touch that icon, or press the button, et voila, app is gone. Photo is a Karoo 1 but I’d hazard a guess its the same on a Karoo 2.

  19. David W

    Anyone tried loading TrailForks? That would useful for MTB.

    • Pete Marshall

      I think Trailforks requires Google play services so you may have to install those first. This means rooting the device and I’m not brave enough for that ?
      Any one manages to do it please post instructions as Trailforks would be cracking. I’m hoping Hammerhead themselves integrate with Trailforks as it’s been requested quite a bit

  20. carlos andres rubirosa

    My Karoo 2 wont get recognize on my mac

    • Quick troubleshooting things:

      1) Are you using the cable that came with Karoo? And if on a USB-C only Mac, with a dongle, have you tested that dongle (or other cable) to work with other data devices?

      2) When you plug it in, does your Mac ding or make any sounds?

      3) Within the USB modes, have you tried toggling it to MTP?

    • Carlos

      I got it to work, had to use parallel to install windows on my Mac and do it that way.

  21. Giulio

    Hello and thanks for this excellent guide.
    How can I possibly uninstall some previously installed applications?
    Which command to use?
    Thank you
    Giulio

  22. Rick

    There are warnings about “bricking” the device.
    What is the actual risk and what are the areas where gret care should be taken.
    I “soft bricked” my K1, requiring a factory reset after having the SETTINGS app disappear on my first attempt to load adb and was put off after that.
    One problem with community based support is that folks with crashes move on and disappear from the discussion. Could be solved by an App Store with vetted processes, but HH has seen that as a task to avoid since inception, saying perennially that it is “on the roadmap”. No doubt it is a bigger task than they have the staff to support.
    Also Karoousers.org has an area of the forum devoted to this.
    Thanks again to Ray!

    • Pete Marshall

      Not sure how you would brick the device by sideloading. You could if you start rooting it to install google services so caution.
      With sideloading the worst is usually freezing and turning off and on again deals. If you manage to do something worse then resetting the device does the business and once you are signed in everything back although you will have to repair sensor.
      I think they may be a little on the small side to develop their own app store so sideloading will always be a useful option. I hope that some of the most popular apps, Komoot, Xert may be developed directly for the Karoo so they could just come as native.

  23. Thomas Schweighofer

    Thanks for this introduction.

    I was wondering about 2 things.

    Nr1. How can somebody install the Google Play Store on it?
    I tried with the apk as above, but that didnt work as planned, it got installed, but it was not usable.

    Nr2. When installing Spotify, i was hoping i could listen to Spotify since this device has speaker, doesnt it?
    Any chance to have Spotify working on it and having music from my handlebars?

    Thanks, Thomas

    • Thomas Schweighofer

      BTW I have another urgent need for help!

      The KAROO Companion APP from PlayStore is NOT working on my smartphone.

      I have tried 4 different Android Smartphones now, none of which can run the app.

      The app when clicking it, just prompts a black screen and then is gone again, there is no chance to open the official app, its not working.

      Any clue about this? Do you have the same? Its a shame i cant use my phone with it.

      Any information warmly welcome.

      Thanks, Thomas

    • Pete Marshall

      To install Google play services you have to root the device. I’m not into that but there are some instructions on the users forum
      link to karoousers.org
      You need BT headphones or speakers for Spotify (and TBT instructions). The speaker in the K2 doesn’t do music.

  24. Michel

    Hi Ray,

    Thanks for this article, I am just testing on my new K2.
    What screen recorder App are you using?

  25. Anthony DeLorenzo

    So could you sideload the Skydio app and control the drone? That would be pretty rad.

  26. Phil

    Hi, first of all, thank you so much for all your interesting reviews! They have helped me a great deal to decide between choices on various occasions!

    Has anybody managed to get RGT to run on K1?
    As far as I know, it does not prove a problem on K2, whereas on K1 it stops working after starting the app.

    Is my assumption right that K1 still uses Android 6 in comparison to Android 8 on K2?

    I’d really like to use Karoo on my Trainer 🙂

  27. Alden Basmajian

    Thanks for all this. I tried following this in order to sideload the full Zwift app but I couldn’t get it to work. Any thoughts or extra directions? I got to a point where I had “performing streamed install” but never saw the “success” come through. Thanks for the help

    Alden

  28. Wolf

    How do I install apps with the ending “.xapk”
    Thank you

    • tricki

      I have Locus Maps Pro sideloaded now (via installing Amazon App Store). Makes the Karoo 2 a really good unit for hiking (OS maps, IGN and other official maps available).

      Also installed Chrome and Komoot via APKpure. Polar Beat will not run as it required the google maps library, otherwise we may have had a new Polar bike computer.

  29. Ty

    I am about an hour into this and can’t seem to get past step # 5… I can open the command prompt but cant get anything to get me to the devices spot on the command prompt. I am two computers in and have no idea what the hell I am doing wrong. I have the files saved under Windows -SSD (C:) but cannot even get to the point where it finds it? any help would be appreciated

  30. Ty

    Thanks Thomas, it just won’t work for me as I keep getting computer errors. I am sure if I could pass this step it would be nice. Now to find someone ho knows how I get past my command prompt errors

  31. Ty

    Thank you all for your help, Ray thanks for the article, with googles help I figured out the problem on my computer and then it all worked so smoothly. This is amazing!!!

  32. Carrie

    Got TrainerRoad loaded on my Karoo 2. How do I execute a TR workout outdoors on the K2? When I select perform workout outdoors, it looks like all I can do is read the workout and when I select to do it indoors, I cannot pair my bike power meter to the app.

  33. Daniel Ellsworth

    Nice writeup. I was an original karoo1 early adopter and also for karoo2. I’ve had no trouble sideloading apps.

    With the K1 I used nova launcher and it put a little side menubar on the screen. I could click to enter the ride or click to enter another app. I used OSMAnd frequently since back then the mapping was pretty bad on the K1.

    My issue is….

    I use a dyno and the K2 doesn’t seem to charge with it. K1 did great.

    I installed ampere to check that the dyno was charging my phone. It does. Averaging about 650 mA.

    So I installed ampere to see what it did with the K2. But I can’t launch ride and then launch ampere to see what’s going on with the charging. That nice little side menubar that appeared with the K1 doesn’t with the K2. Do you have any idea how to switch between apps when a ride is running? I’m trying to find out how much mA draw when ride is running. And therefore see if it pulls so much my dyno can’t overcome the drain. Or if K2 can’t be charged at all while running.

    You wouldn’t happen to have any ideas about the K2 not apparently charging would you?

    Thanks

    • Yeah, charging the K2 can be finicky. I talk about it in my review a bit, but in short, it doesn’t always charge from certain USB-C cables and devices.

      I’ve found that it will consistently charge from their specific cable, but others are a complete crapshoot (even ones I power everything else with).

    • Daniel Ellsworth

      Thanks. I’ve been using their cable. On my bike dynamo also.

      Last night it was very strange. I had done a factory reset and was plugged into a wall USB charger. I’d configured it and tried to download my local area map. It wouldn’t let me. Like it was frozen and I realized it wasn’t charging. So I powered it off and back on. It still wouldn’t and still wasn’t charging. So disconnected the cable and I powered it off and sent of a help message to hammerhead. While I was at my desk about 5 minutes later, and it was still powered off and the cable not connected it suddenly brought up the hammerhead logo and showed the state of charge. No cable connected. I’d done nothing. So I connected the cable and booted it. Then the download worked and it started charging!

      I’m using a cycle to charge on the dynamo. Which is considered one of the better ones available.

    • David Horn

      Might be too late to post this now but the reason the Karoo 2 is temperamental about what it’ll charge from is less to do with the charger and everything to do with the cable. The cut-out around the USB-C port is smaller than average, so the contact is *only just* made when using some third-party cables.

      This is my conclusion, anyway.

  34. Howie

    The Karoo workout tile is limited in detail and there’s no trainer control via % resistance.
    Xert only has workouts by Power, not HR.

    What other apps could be sideloaded for creating and syncing custom workouts and controlling trainers? I tried Zwift and TrainerRoad but neither seemed to fit the bill.