Nov. 2

In The Queue: Samsung Gear Sport

The last holdout of the Fall 2017 new smartwatch season battlefield, and it’s now on my wrist and tracking my workouts.  This rounds out the Apple Watch 3, Garmin Vivoactive 3, and Fitbit Ionic showdown!  Expect a full in-depth review in the coming weeks.  But in the meantime, feel free to use this page for any questions and/or specific things you want me to take a look at.

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Nov. 2

In The Queue: Samsung Gear Sport

The last holdout of the Fall 2017 new smartwatch season battlefield, and it’s now on my wrist and tracking my workouts.  This rounds out the Apple Watch 3, Garmin Vivoactive 3, and Fitbit Ionic showdown!  Expect a full in-depth review in the coming weeks.  But in the meantime, feel free to use this page for any questions and/or specific things you want me to take a look at.

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Nov. 2

In The Queue: Samsung Gear Sport

The last holdout of the Fall 2017 new smartwatch season battlefield, and it’s now on my wrist and tracking my workouts.  This rounds out the Apple Watch 3, Garmin Vivoactive 3, and Fitbit Ionic showdown!  Expect a full in-depth review in the coming weeks.  But in the meantime, feel free to use this page for any questions and/or specific things you want me to take a look at.

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Nov. 2

In The Queue: Samsung Gear Sport

The last holdout of the Fall 2017 new smartwatch season battlefield, and it’s now on my wrist and tracking my workouts.  This rounds out the Apple Watch 3, Garmin Vivoactive 3, and Fitbit Ionic showdown!  Expect a full in-depth review in the coming weeks.  But in the meantime, feel free to use this page for any questions and/or specific things you want me to take a look at.

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Nov. 2

In The Queue: Samsung Gear Sport

The last holdout of the Fall 2017 new smartwatch season battlefield, and it’s now on my wrist and tracking my workouts.  This rounds out the Apple Watch 3, Garmin Vivoactive 3, and Fitbit Ionic showdown!  Expect a full in-depth review in the coming weeks.  But in the meantime, feel free to use this page for any questions and/or specific things you want me to take a look at.

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Nov. 2

In The Queue: Samsung Gear Sport

The last holdout of the Fall 2017 new smartwatch season battlefield, and it’s now on my wrist and tracking my workouts.  This rounds out the Apple Watch 3, Garmin Vivoactive 3, and Fitbit Ionic showdown!  Expect a full in-depth review in the coming weeks.  But in the meantime, feel free to use this page for any questions and/or specific things you want me to take a look at.

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Nov. 2

In The Queue: Samsung Gear Sport

The last holdout of the Fall 2017 new smartwatch season battlefield, and it’s now on my wrist and tracking my workouts.  This rounds out the Apple Watch 3, Garmin Vivoactive 3, and Fitbit Ionic showdown!  Expect a full in-depth review in the coming weeks.  But in the meantime, feel free to use this page for any questions and/or specific things you want me to take a look at.

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Nov. 2

In The Queue: Samsung Gear Sport

The last holdout of the Fall 2017 new smartwatch season battlefield, and it’s now on my wrist and tracking my workouts.  This rounds out the Apple Watch 3, Garmin Vivoactive 3, and Fitbit Ionic showdown!  Expect a full in-depth review in the coming weeks.  But in the meantime, feel free to use this page for any questions and/or specific things you want me to take a look at.

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102 Comments

  1. Ray Middleton

    Ray will any of the smart watches work for cycling? Especially, will they connect, pair to my power meter, HR speed and cadence sensors?
    Thanks

  2. RISHABH SEKHANI

    Ray, would this connect with a chest HR strap?

  3. John Aubrey

    Any chance of swimming in the review? I use Samsung Pay a lot, would be interesting to compare it against Garmin Pay. As someone that has a smart watch with fitness features this watch interests me. I’m basically down to the va3 or gear sport for Xmas. I can’t wait.

  4. Richard Zellner

    Does a Garmin Forerunner 245 fit in the smart watch category or is there still hope for an update?

  5. Aleksander Helgaker

    Will you be testing the gear sport paired with both Android and iOS? Really looking forwards to hearing about the Gear Sport :).

  6. Julian Divett

    I’ve just bought one too, there is very little hands on assistance, but so far so good. done a couple of runs links to strava etc… listening to off line Spotify via Bluetooth

    If you can figure out 3
    things they are..

    How do I get podcasts onto it either via Spotify or off my android phone from a 3rd party app
    Where is the Speedo app which I want to test next week in the pool.
    I can’t find a decent track running watch face with lap timer etc.

  7. Mats

    Looking forward to the review!
    Hoping for the usual level of fitness-focus as you usually do, and also interested to hear how well it integrates with 3rd party sites (ie Strava).
    How well the sensors work, which (if any) external sensors can be used, what type of fitness metrics are supported (VO2Max etc), how customizable the different sport modes are (data fields etc), what type of battery usage one can expect when using it as a fitness watch, how the music options (Spotify/local) works when doing workouts.
    Also, if you could test out some of the gym/strength training features that would be wonderful!

  8. Mad Hatman

    On Gear S2/S3 there is no HR tracking for the following workouts : lunges, crunches, Squats, jumping jacks, rowing & other.

    Is that still the case with Gear Sport? Or did Samsung Fix it and now shows HR in all Activity Types.

    Also on Gear S2/S3 there is no calculated value for Resting HR. You need to look through HR history & find your lowest HR yourself.

    Does Gear Sport now show Resting HR & if so is it more accurate than what Fitbit

    Can you use an external HR strap? Gear S2/S3 can not ?

    Are you also going to review Gear Fit 2Pro ? I would like to see how it compares to Gear Sport?

    Being that I already have Gear S3 & hoping will get same software update as Gear Sport, I would consider supplementing Gear s3 with Fit 2 Pro for swimming. It’s $100 cheaper than Gear Sport. And I am not going to replace Gear S3 for Sort because it lacks: LTE, MST (Pay) & a Speaker for handsfree calls.

    Thanks

  9. Aleksander Helgaker

    Interested in knowing if screen can be “locked” during a workout. I’ve heard that some have had issues with sleeves ending activities on the Fitbit Ionic. When I go hiking I often have the watch under a jacket sleeve, so this would be a problem if the screen can’t be locked.

  10. John Aubrey

    In honestly, you could walk around the block with the GPS and it would be the most athletic review I have seen.

  11. Doug

    I also am interested in the swimming capabilities of the watch. I tried the Ionic in the pool but it was pretty much useless. I had these issues with it:

    The watch face disappears after a couple of seconds. It isn’t always on. Yes, I understand that this is a compromise with increased battery life. However, the hand/arm motion required to turn on the watch face is just ridiculously impractical while swimming.

    On 2 separate swims, the watch paused while I was swimming even though I have set it to not pause. What is most infuriating about this is that I can’t even tell it is paused as I can’t get the watch face to turn on while swimming!

    HR is turned off while swimming, so to get HR, I have to use the setting for treadmill instead so the choice is either HR or swim metrics but not both.

    I have the watch set for “Strong” vibrate but even when I’m waiting for it to vibrate I usually miss it as it is so weak. What is funny though is that when I once reached my “Step goal” while swimming, it vibrated perfectly!

  12. Charles

    Ray,
    Just FYI, I can see this post on the mobile site, but not the desktop version (either actually on my laptop or using the link below to show desktop version on my phone). I’m in the Midwestern U. S. if that matters for your troubleshooting.

    Keep up the great work!

    • Hmm…I suspect that’s because it’ll typically show as ‘In The Queue’ on the desktop site, versus mobile it gets all stuffed together.

      Totally agree though, not consistent and wonky. Will add to my list to decide how to fix. Thanks!

    • Charles

      Yup — Now I see it on desktop. User error on my end, sorry about that.

    • When the last post in that section was almost a year ago no reason to check that part of the site

    • True. I don’t tend to use it often because there’s lots of stuff I poke at but never end up writing a review. Additionally, I’ve somewhat shifted for more popular items to just doing first look type posts instead, which take the place of the Queue in many ways.

  13. Ofris

    Hi . Im mainly interested in pool swimming as this is my main sport. I know that for the more advanced metrics the SpeedoOn app supposed to take care of. However the SpeedoOn app reviews on the PlayStore are horrific at best. So the overall swimming experience is crucial for me. I’m considering either the gear sport or the vivoactive 3. I would really love to hear your thoughts on which one is better for swimming. Thanks so much.

  14. Ivan

    Curious what the experience is in combination with the runtastic phone app.

  15. Aleksander Helgaker

    Noticed your tweet about the terrible accuracy of the gps. Was it a one off, or is it always that bad?

    • I’ve done two short cross-town rides and the run. The rides seemed more or less fine, and the run was more or less a disaster.

    • Julian Divett

      Hi Ray I’m trying to decide whether to keep this watch, I’ve got poorish results too. What location settings do you use, WiFi and GPS or just GPS. I’ve got a long run tomorrow (Nice marathon) so will be a good test for battery and GPS. Also trying a longish bike ride in the mountains later today. Will report back.

    • Nathan

      It has been a bit since I’ve owned the gear S3 frontier, but I think remember that when used in standalone mode (without a phone connected) there was no way to know if it had gps lock. This led to all sorts of poor gps tracks as it would be all over the place. Between the poor performance with GPS, poor accuracy on the HRM, and lack of external sensor support, I decided to give a Garmin a try.

      The other issue I had with the gear S3 was that the screen didn’t always come in when I raised my wrist to look at it while running. Sometimes when it did come on, the auto brightness wasn’t working properly so you couldn’t read the screen in bright sunlight. One run with a Fenix 5 and I realized how much of a pain the gear S3 was to use as a running watch.

    • Alex

      I had sometimes similar issues with the Samsung gear S3. I do not think the problem is the GPS hardware but the software. The Samsung running app starts counting before locking the GPS signal and that sometimes creates very bad results. Also, I had issues exporting the date to Strava throught S-health. Results were different making no sense..

      Endomondo software works better but you cannot export the data to Strava.

      If you are interested, I found an app called Run4Gear which works quite well for running. You can wait until the GPS signal is locked and you can export to Strava (or many others) without issues on the results. The problem is that you have to pay for this app and visually is not fantastic (is not an app design by a company but by some individual..).

    • Yeah, with the Sport, it does show you when your GPS is locked – so I waited for that. But I also noticed in playing around with it a bit over the weekend that it can show locked, and then a few seconds later it shows not locked. Like a false lock.

      Same goes on Strava exports. It’s a mess. I used Fitness Syncer to export the file, which I then put on Strava. But even then, it was all wonky. I shot a note to a Strava dev lead I know and he ‘fixed’ some of my file for a simple cross-town ride, but it’s still got wonk in it.

      Of course, you can’t use native Strava sync on the iOS app from S Health (no partnerships allowed there), only on Android.

    • Alex

      I agree, the Samsung app for running or Cycling is a disaster whenever you export the data to Strava. I do not understand what is wrong between S-heatlth and Strava, clearly something is done incorrectly with the data. I thought the new Tizen software on the Gear Sport would fix this but I can see is not…

      As I mentioned, the Run4Gear app created by some user has no problems sending the data to Strava. Everything is ok. How Samsung with an entire team of people working on this cannot do this correctly?? They don’t do any testing?? Strava is a very important app in todays market…

      I believe ENDOMONDO software does a better job on the Samsung but STRAVA is the app I’m currently using with my friends..I wish we had a native app for it or at least a good syncing from S-health..

  16. Edwin Aerts

    Hello Ray
    What features does the Cycling app show in real time and more specific related to altitude.
    I can’t find this info anywhere, so thanks for informing me.
    Thanks and kind regards.
    Edwin

    • In a default configuration it shows:

      Page 1: Distance, Duration, Heart Rate
      Page 2: Calories, Speed, Heart Rate
      Page 3: Calories, Heart Rate, Speed
      (Yes, those two are kinda duplicates)

      I haven’t dug too deeply yet on whether or to what extent it’s possible to tweak the default pages in the default app, and if there are difference in that between iOS and Android.

  17. Keith Rudder

    Somewhere I read where the Sport “may” be able to track your heart rate while swimming. Could you test this and see if it works at all? Also, I want to know if I can just drag and drop music onto the watch or if I have to stand on my head to get music on the thing.

  18. ShawnD

    Ray – does the Gear Sport support laps for outdoor/treadmill running and indoor pool swimming?

  19. Chris

    Curious will it connect to bike cadence speed via ant or BT.

    Also didnt see in ur review of the A3.. do they track skiing.

    Thanks. Love ur reviews. Most trusted IMO

  20. Chad

    Very disappointed in Garmin Vivoactive 3 after a weeks use. Reviews of Sport Gear are virtually non-existent; why bother with what little has been said. Looking forward to Sport Gear review by DC Rainmaker.

  21. Joey

    Hi had it a week now but just can’t get it to continuous track heart rate one the LG v20 it’s specific to the Samsung phones?

    • Hmm, shouldn’t be phone specific. It works for me on my iPhone 7. It doesn’t seem to record a ton of data points though (or at least transfer them), compared to other devices. Especially since the sensor appears to be on 24×7. But I’ve gotta see if perhaps it’s got some other behavior on my Pixel (Android) phone.

    • Joey

      Sorted it when I did a factory reset it then gave me the option to choose the heart rate ( continuous,frequent or off) then I notice the 3 little dots at the side of the screen touched this and gave me another menu I knew nothing about 😂 with all the options.

  22. John Lewis

    I’d like to know which exercises are available on the watch. For prior models, there’s a bazillion on the phone app but a shorter list on the watch.

    Supplementary question; can you setup custom guided runs (pace target) on phone and have it appear on the watch with audio cues?

    Thanks for reviewing this watch! All reviews to date of the SPORT have been couch potato reviews

    • 1) Sports on watch: There’s two places you can enter the sports menu. One is via the rotating bezel, which is far shorter (just Running, Walking, Cycling Swimming). The other is via the sports app menu (Apps > S Health > Scroll down to Workout Option > Work Out > list), which has many more options (Running, Walking, Cycling, Hiking, Swimming, Elliptical Trainer, Excercise Bike, Step Machine, Treadmill, Lunges, Crunches, Squats, Jumping Jacks, Pilates, Yoga, Rowing Machine, Other Workout).

      2) I don’t see any way to set it up on the iPhone apps (S Health or Gear S app). Perhaps Android is different, I’ll be switching over to that on Wednesday. However, on the watch you can do that via the S Health method and then under guided targets do stuff like ‘Pace Setter’, but even that’s kinda wonky and super dumbed down. It has run segments like warm-up/cool-down, but it simplifies pace to just ‘Endurance Run’, whatever the heck that means.

    • John Lewis

      Thanks

      1. Shame extras like golf don’t make it to the watch

      2. Attached is screenshot of what it looks like setting up on Android. You go to start a run with Pace Setter, go left off the end and there’s a way to add a custom. It’s very basic, but helpful for a novice like me trying to stick to a particular speed

    • John Lewis

      Addendum:

      That’s on phone in SHealth app. Need to do a little estimation to make it work (add 10 minutes and 0.5km to account for warm-up/down sections).

      On old watch (Gear Fit2) they show on the watch under the custom names I give them. Here’s a couple I’ve made

    • Julian Divett

      Hi John, I have the watch and been using for a week. I agree that the GPS is weak but for me it has been acceptable. I’ve been on other discussion forums but no-one else seems to be using the watch as a proper sports watch. Can you help with a couple of things.

      Can the training programs that you create in s health be exported to the watch to be used in standalone mode.

      Have you found a way to display pace while running

      Thanks.

    • John Lewis

      Hi Julian
      I have an old Gear Fit2 only.
      Fairly sure the program workouts don’t transfer to the watch, but it’s been a long time since I’ve used them. Custom made ones like I picture above do transfer for stand-alone use; hopefully the Gear Sport is the same.

      Gear Fit2 shows pace, duration, distance, calories, speed, cadence or heart rate. Be surprised if they removed pace for the Sport.

    • John Lewis

      Only app I recall watch stand-alone training plans is Pear, which looked good (even vo2max) but I didn’t follow through with.
      Not sure if they make a round face version:

      link to apps.samsung.com

    • Julian Divett

      Thanks, it seems that they have not set up the app store for the gear sport yet. I’ve tried several apps and they don’t work. I just tried endomondo and it just crashes. In fact the companion app for the phone doesn’t have the gear sport as an option…

      The pear watch face is not in the app store.

      The standard s health apps on the watch are fixed training programs as far as I can see.

      I think this watch has potential but only if app developers and Samsung sort this out. Otherwise a nice fitness tracker with music. On a plus note I’ve figured out how to get podcasts across..

    • Julian Divett

      I found pace it was on the standard running app, but it was useless I think it was working off my arm motion!

      As soon as I looked it slowed right down…

      The voice feedback was accurate and gives cumulative pace but not great if you have a warm up.

  23. Random tidbit within the camp of ‘Things I learned today’: The Gear Sport will actually latch onto any nearby BLE HR strap, without any user interaction or confirmation. That’ll override the optical HR sensor for that activity. This is using the default sports app.

    I noticed it in analyzing the HR data from the last few days where it 100.000% matched the TICKR strap I was wearing. Good news for those that want external HR. Bad news for those of us (me) that was hoping to track optical HR. Gotta use an ANT+ only strap now…

    • Nathan

      That is interesting. Glad that the are implementing external sensor support. Any chance it will do the same for BLE speed/cadence?

    • Alex

      Did you try turning off the Bluetooth on the watch? I know you do not use the phone and like this there is no need for you to change the strap..

      By the way, did samsung department mentioned anything interesting regarding your tweet?

    • John Lewis

      That’s very interesting. Perhaps that’s why when I tested HR on my Gear Fit2 against TickrX it seemed to do so well…

    • Nathan – Hard to know if anything else will come of it. There’s zero interface or settings options I can find on it.

      Alex – Good call. Though, I might just use an ANT+ strap just in case it’s still doing some sneaky!

      John – Haha!

    • Shane

      Ray, that is good news about the Gear Sport able to connect to an external Blue tooth HR strap. I was in the Gear Sport developer discussions and was told no, that it would not support external heart rate straps.

  24. Aleksander Helgaker

    Sorry if this has been answered already. Have you tried running using one of the Under Armour apps? I was wondering if perhaps there was a bug in the built-in tracking app causing the weird gps issues. Maybe ether UA apps do better.

    • Julian Divett

      I’d love to try but the under armour apps all crash – I’ve tried endomondo and mapmyrun. I don’t have a Samsung Phone so that may be the issue, in the small print in the manual it mentions only a small number of phones which they say are compatible, mine is not included (ZTE Axon 7).

  25. John Aubrey

    Any change this review makes it out before Thanksgiving? Best Buy is having it $50 off as well as the VA3.

    • Julian Divett

      I would seriously hold off buying, I’ve just been in touch with Samsung about various issues with the watch.. GPS/ heart rate inaccuracies, missing/not working apps, no notifications, and now I just discovered that the offline Spotify does not allow shuffle…they are suggesting sending in for repair. I’m waiting on Ray a review but I suspect he will discover the same issues.

    • I’m hoping so. I’m struggling a bit more with getting data off the darn watch than I thought (out of S Health in a usable 3rd party format). I initially was using Fitness Syncer, but as I look more closely at the data I’m realizing it’s actually blending data from multiple sources. Seriously, it’s merging files together making the Samsung data look better than it is. Sigh…

    • Nathan

      It just seems like Samsung isn’t serious about building a fitness watch. They are serious about building a smart watch and trying to market it to the fitness crowd. The smart watch functions of the Gear line are quite good. The fitness stuff sucks. The only way i was able to get anything at all out of the S3 Frontier was to hook S-Health up with Mapmyrun and/or Strava. At least at this point it isn’t stuck in S-health, but good luck doing anything else with it.

      There was a developer that created a watch face called “sporty watch” in the samsung app store. His face had the ability to record runs/rides in straight up .fit files. You could then sync these to Google Drive, Strava, or transfer them off the watch directly via a web server if i remember correctly. He also had built in the ability to hook up to a BLE HRM. This face made the watch almost a decent running watch.

    • Alex

      Besides Sporty Wautch, another app called Run4Gear also do this function. The problem is that you have to pay for both apps and the design of them is not as good as an official app from Samsung or Endomondo. What I do not understand is how an individual can create a much better app than a whole team of programmers/designers… Makes no sense…

    • Nathan

      When i was talking with the Sporty Watch developer while i was beta testing for him, it became clear that no matter what he did he wouldn’t be able to make it look as nice or have as good of an interface as the standard apps because some of the hardware features were locked down and developers couldn’t use them.

      I may have been mistaken, i believe the sporty watch app was creating .tcx files, not .fit.

      I liked what he was doing and gave a lot of feedback, but his hands were tied by Samsung in a lot of cases. I took one run with the gear on one side and the fenix on the other and sold the gear on swappa the next day. With Samsung i felt like i was jumping through hoops to make it work “not great” for a fitness watch. I suspect that Ray is finding out how frustrating it is to work with the Samsung line if fitness tracking is your primary goal.

      On a side note, with the Gear Sport do you get an even remotely usable instant pace? The S3 Frontier would jump all over the place.

    • Alex

      Just for your information Ray, the Samsung Gear Sport has received a new update which supposedly fixes/calibrates all the watch sensors.. Tizen 3.0.1.. I do not know if it really makes any difference.

    • Hmm…for me when I have it check for software updates, says the latest update is already installed (3.0.0.).

  26. Gillian

    I too am interested in the Samsung Gear Sport for swimming. I’d like to know if it displays swimming information viewable during the swim. I currently have a poolmate and I can see laps, time etc. during my swim (I’m not great at remembering which lap I’m on so this is really helpful!) Trying to decide what to replace the poolmate with as I’d like to track outdoor swimming too.

  27. Julian Divett

    Ive got the update which means I now have the speedo app and a few things seem to work – notifications coming through, under armour apps working.

    I tested the built in swim app yesterday for an hour swim but there was not really much useful info on the watch – just distance and time. It seemed to log HR but there was a section which looks like it lost that for about 10minutes. Didnt even tell me how many lengths, lets hope the speedo app is better.

    Supposedly the sensors work better with this update too. Will do a run tomorrow and fingers crossed we will have some progress. Starting to believe again!

    • Aleksander H

      This is very interesting. Hopefully they fixed the issues. Really strange that none of the other reviews I’ve read have made any mention of issues with gps. Wareables.com even said the GPS was spot on, but for some reason they didn’t show any screenshots comparing the track with a different device. I thought that was strange as they’ve almost always done that in the past.

    • GPS is back to crap again for me.

      As for other sites, best I can tell nobody actually worked out with the thing. Or they considered walking around the block once for 2 minutes a workout.

    • Aleksander H

      Well. Looks like I’m definitely not getting this then. I guess I’ll continue to use my phone for step competitions with my friends on Samsung Health.

      I’ll definitely be contributing $20 to the site with my next pay check (I’m already paying for the analyzer software which has been great by the way). This site is a tremendous resource. No one else seems to do the kind of reviews you do. Keep it up :).

    • Julian Divett

      Totally agree – just ran my regular 12.38k run which I’ve measured using several devices over many years, Well the Samsung thought it was 11.5k. Not even close! How can they sell this as a sports watch with that level of inaccuracy… Have you had any feedback from Samsung?

    • Thanks all!

      The Samsung person I’ve touched bases with is in another division coordinating response from the correct Samsung division, but the correct Samsung division hasn’t made contact yet back to me.

  28. Jasonandrew

    Are these issues also present on the S3? I can’t find a detailed review

    • Nathan

      My experience says yes. I had unreliable GPS and poor hr monitoring with my gear S3. Samsung pay and the other smartwatch features were pretty good, but it sucked as a fitness watch.

  29. Jason Peck

    I’m looking at the sport, S3, vivo 3, ionic…I run, bike, and would like the daily tracking sort of stuff. Phone is a Galaxy Note 8..whats my front runner?

  30. Barry Foster

    I’d be interested in hearing your opinion on this versus the Apple Watch 3. I’d also like to know your thoughts of this versus the gear s3 as I’m comparing them myself for purchase. I use an iPhone also.

    thanks much

  31. Barry Foster

    one other thing would be the Gear sport or S3 versus Apple with regards to heart rate variability and heart rate accuracy

  32. Brian Crow

    I prioritize Spotify offline more than most, perhaps, and I also already use a Samsung phone so I took a risk on this device with the hopes that the GPS might be better where I run in Prospect Park, Brooklyn, than it has been for others. I’m attaching a photo of a 7 mile out-and-back run I did yesterday with this watch, hopefully folks can see how significant the GPS issues are with this device. I wore an old TomTom Runner on my other hand, which cost me less than $100 3 years ago, and by the end of the run they were about .3 miles off. I can’t seem to attach both files to this post so I will try and attach the TomTom map in a separate post. Not only was the GPS massively off, but also I began the run at 38% battery life and the watch died before it could even finish this sub 1 hour run. I had Spotify on the whole time, but still it appears that you could not do a 3 hour run with Spotify on with this watch even if you started at 100%. I will note that I really liked everything else about this watch, Spotify worked great for me and it was very well-designed especially if you already have a Samsung phone. It’s a shame about the GPS, and the battery life. All the reviews I read said the battery life was fine, but many of the Amazon reviews indicated the same issues I had.

    • Julian Divett

      I had the same issue with spotify – seems to really hammer the battery. Did you have screen on all the time during your run. I noticed that also has a big effect on battery drain. I also turn off wifi, to sync a spotify playlist you need wifi so you have to remember to turn it off afterwards.

      Weirdly on bike rides it seems pretty accurate I did a 40k bike ride yesterday and it was within a few hundred meters of a Suunto and Bike computer. At least that gives hope that this is a software issue.

      I will be trying out the speedo app later this week in the pool – the only concern is that it seems to be standalone, so not sure what you do with the data.

    • Brian Crow

      I did not have the screen always on, but I did not turn off the wifi. It would be annoying to have to turn wifi off before every run, but I certainly think it would help with the battery issues.

      I’m surprised it was accurate with biking, for me it was so inaccurate I can’t imagine it working for any reasonable GPS tracking activity.

      I genuinely hope it’s a software issue, as I mentioned I really liked the watch but for the GPS and battery issues and am sad that I will be returning it.

  33. Brian Crow

    As mentioned in my previous post, here’s the same run with my old TomTom Runner.

    • Alex

      Is a pity to see how different the opinions are about the sport watch performance. There is people satisfy with the GPS and people experiencing many problems. From my experience with the Samsung Gear S3, sometimes it gets the data right but sometimes is a disaster. I believe is a matter of software more than hardware because using some external user apps like Run4Gear/Sporty Watch, everything seems fine…

      Is strange nobody is mentioning the issues in the many reviews you can find on Internet. I even visited many forums and people seemed happy with the device. Probably nobody did a serious sport analysis and many users do not really check the map/data after an sport session.

      About the battery, I never had any problems and I’m very happy how long it last. I do not use spotify but music downloaded directly into the watch..

  34. Brian Crow

    I too am confused by how this seems to be a major issue for some but not others, I had hoped it was a geographic issue and that perhaps I’d get lucky and it would be accurate in Brooklyn, but that wasn’t the case. I suspect many reviewers don’t run with any level of seriousness and wouldn’t notice a tenth of a mile off every 2 miles (that was the rate of inaccuracy for my run). Some folks just do their morning run and don’t really care about anything other than the broadest sense of how far they went.

    I’d be surprised if Spotify was causing more battery drain than downloaded music, I would think the Bluetooth usage would be the culprit. But as I mentioned in another post, perhaps it was that I didn’t turn wifi off. Regardless, I’m returning mine due to the GPS issues, don’t want to run any more tests and risk accidentally damaging it.

    • I think the answer is honestly really simple: Most other reviewers are focused on the non-sport parts of the Gear Sport.

      I see it a lot in non-fitness reviews. Doing a single indoor 10 minute ‘workout’ and saying ‘it looks good’, without any comparative data. Or going for a walk to the nearest Starbucks and back as a workout, where said Starbuck is across the street.

      Fear not, I’ll have close to 2 weeks of workout data in the mix.

  35. Tom

    I am waiting for your review. Like others have said reviews on the internet are limited. A few years ago this site helped me choose the M400. I have enjoyed that watch for the last 3 years. Now it;s time for something new. I had the M600 for me and the Vivoactive 3 for my wife in the shopping cart at clever training but am very curious about the S3 Gear. I have always used polar flow and I like the lay out. I didn’t know you could transfer data from S health to strava. I just created a strava account and like it as well…. so now I can get an S3 and transfer data to strava? I just put a pause on my purchase. I can’t afford several watches so I choose one I can use every day. I like the M600 except for the look. Other then that it seems like a nice watch…… but the S3 looks very nice (like the round face) just wonder how it does on runs on a tread mill lifting weights etc…… thanks to all that have one and have posted in here it helps….. also frustrating lol

    • Barry

      I bought the vivoactive 3 and returned it as it just didn’t have the visual clarity the Samsung or Apple Watch do. I could visually see the difference and was t willing to spend 329 for something with a screen that wasn’t as good

    • Nathan

      Make sure you test either of the other options in full sunlight. The Gear S3 has a fantastic screen and i’m sure the Sport is awesome as well, but occasionally the auto brightness would freak out when i’d lift my wrist to look at the while while running. The screen would stay pretty dim and as a result you couldn’t read any of the content. I’d end up covering the screen (to shut it off) with my hand and then raising my wrist again several times to get the screen on with brightness high enough to be of any use in direct sunlight. This behavior was highly annoying. Screen readability in direct sunlight matters, so make sure you test.

    • From a running standpoint, I’ve seen no issues with either the VA3 or Gear Sport in increda-bright sunlight. All good there.

    • Nathan

      That’s good to know. Maybe they have improved the functionality of the auto-brightness in the new sport. The screen on the Gear S3 gets plenty bright enough, just sometimes it wouldn’t kick into the bright sunlight “overdrive” mode that they build into these devices.

      Hopefully Samsung can fix some of the GPS and Sensor issues with their watch platform.

    • Sorry, yes, I know exactly what you’re talking about. I had that happen on a run last week. But hasn’t seemed to be a problem since. I don’t exactly what caused it.

  36. Zuhallem

    Is the Samsung Gear Fit2 Pro compatible with Garmin and Strava?

    • Marc Taylor

      Hello All

      Can anyone please tell me how the Gear Sport is working in the pool for measuring iaps? Has anyone done open water swimming and what does the watch show?

      Thank you very much
      MTWIZARD

    • Julian

      Hi I’ve tested both the in built Samsung app and now the speedo app in the pool.

      Both apps were reasonably close on laps. I am in a club so we do drills, which can be changing strokes at half a length, intervals etc..probably makes things tricky so I can allow some leeway. The Samsung app attempted to read heart beat although not very accurate, lots of drop outs. The speedo app looks like it should measure hr but didn’t. I had hr turned off so perhaps you have to manually turn in on first. Other apps turn on hr automatically.

      I don’t understand the stats from speedo it shows 1h 06m, 110 lengths and 2750m which was close, but then shows I averaged 1.28 for 100m which is way out. It even showed 52s for my fastest 100m which is a bit optimistic!! Clearly some bugs to be ironed out. Also I haven’t found a way to get the data out of speedo into strava or mapmyfitness. For now the internal app looks better.

      Whilst swimming I don’t tend to look st the watch but if you press a button you get laps and distance I think.

      I’ll try and do an open water soon, need to dust of the wetsuit, I live in the south of France but the sea is getting cold!

    • Marc Taylor

      Thank you very much

  37. advaitasiva

    hi
    are you going to review the Samsung gear fit pro 2?
    thanks for your hard work and discipline