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Amazon Early Access Sports Tech Deals Round-Up

As you may have heard, Amazon is running a so-called “Early Access Sale” with Black Friday-like sale prices on October 11th and 12th. I’ve rounded up the best sports technology-related sales, or just sales on things that I like/use a fair bit. I’ll keep adding to this over the course of the two days, so keep checking back.

Note that this sale does require Amazon Prime Membership. Also, more importantly, you can find far more non-sports tech deals here:

Thus far looking at the available items and prices, I’d say we’re seeing prices pretty close to what we see on Black Friday (if not matching it), though, not quite the breadth of items we’d see on Black Friday. That makes some sense, given that companies know consumers are mostly on the lookout for big-ticket Black Friday deals, and may still wait till then.

If you know of a sports tech deal (gadget-focused), feel free to drop a note in the comments or in the contact form. As long as it’s not spam-like, I’m more than happy to share it out! 🙂

Watches & Wearables:

This covers anything you can wear that’s watch-like or activity band-like, including sensors.  Generally speaking, you’ll mostly find deals here that are on things I’ve written about in the past.  So you won’t find a deal on some random non-sports tech watch here, or on socks.  Unless the socks have some crazy sensor or something in them.

ProductSale PriceAmazonOther siteSale Notes
Apple Airpods (2nd Gen) - $50 off!
$159
$79⚡These aren't the latest anymore, that's the newer 3rd gen units. But if budget is in mind, it's hard to beat these - seriously, at $79 it's the lowest price these have ever been.
Apple Airpods Pro (2nd Gen) - $50 off!
$249
$199
Apple Watch SE (2nd Gen/2022) - 8% off
$279
$229⚡This is the first time we've seen the new Apple Watch SE (2nd gen) on sale!
Apple Watch Series 8 - $50 off!
$399/$499 (cellular)
$349⚡This is only the 2nd time we've seen the new Apple Watch SE (2nd gen) on sale!
Apple Watch Ultra - 8% off!$739⚡This is the very first sale we've seen on the Apple Watch Ultra, and appears to be for all band styles as well! And it's not only in-stock, but even for same-day delivery in some areas.
Beats PowerBeats Pro Wireless Sport Headphones - $100 off
$249
$149⚡ I like the PowerBeats Pro with the over-the-ear design, for more security in workouts, than my Beats Studio Buds. I use these as well as my Beats Studio Buds (and have used the PowerBeats Pro ones longer). $100 off is a solid deal.
Beats PowerBeats Studio Buds - $50 off
$149
$99⚡I've been using these since last summer (2021), primarily on my indoor workouts, but also on some of my runs (for example, in testing out most watches with music). I like them and they've become my go-to buds.
FORM Swim Goggles (with heads-up display) - 20% off$182This includes both the goggle, and a 1-year membership to their training/coaching platform.
Fitbit Ace 3 Activity - 38% off$49
Fitbit Charge 5 - 33% off
$149
$99
Fitbit Inspire 3 - 33% off!$69⚡⚡This is a really good deal. First, it's only like 2 months old. Second, it's actually a legit good product. Arguably the best product Fitbit has made in years, in terms of functionality/accuracy/etc... and 3rd, it's priced super well if you want all the features of a Fitbit, without the cost. Note - You don't need a subscription, I did my entire review without one, so you can see what that looks like.
Fitbit Sense 2 - 33% off199
Fitbit Versa 2 - 34% off$99
Fitbit Versa 4 - 35% off$149
Garmin Bounce LTE Kids Tracker - $10 off plus free book$139This just came out, like, last week. So, $10 off isn't much, but hey, it does come with a free kids sports-focused book. While my review isn't quite out yet, we've been using the Garmin Bounce trackers for a few weeks now with our daughters, and overall it does the job super well. Also, we've been reading the book at night to our girls - they love it.
Garmin Enduro 2 - $200 off!
$1,099
$901⚡⚡This is an incredible deal, since this watch just came out three months ago, and is basically the highest end Fenix 7X variant, but with even longer battery life. This is an Amazon-specific sale, not a Garmin one, so I don't expect this to last.
Garmin Epix (Gen 2) - $100 off
$899/$999
$799⚡This is the first time we've seen the Epix on sale! This is Garmin's AMOLED equivalent to the Fenix 7 series, and people continue to be super happy with it since it announced earlier this year.
Garmin Epix Sapphire Black Titanium (Gen 2) - $130 Off$869⚡This is the first time we've seen the Epix on sale! This is Garmin's AMOLED equivalent to the Fenix 7 series, and people continue to be super happy with it since it announced earlier this year. This Sapphire edition includes multiband GPS, for higher levels of accuracy.
Garmin Epix Sapphire White Titanium (Gen 2) - $100 Off$899⚡This is the first time we've seen the Epix on sale! This is Garmin's AMOLED equivalent to the Fenix 7 series, and people continue to be super happy with it since it announced earlier this year. This Sapphire edition includes multiband GPS, for higher levels of accuracy.
Garmin Fenix 6 Pro Solar - 49% off$382
Garmin Fenix 6 Sapphire - $280 off$470
Garmin Fenix 6S Pro - 43% off$339
Garmin Fenix 6S Pro Solar - 43% off$339⚡This is really an incredible deal. You've got a full mapping capable and everything-else unit for $339. When you compare that to their competitors, even their newest products - some of which cost $500-$600, it's not even close. Sure, this is last year's model, but man, it's insane.
Garmin Fenix 6S Sapphire - 53% off$331
Garmin Fenix 6X Pro Solar - 40% off$538
Garmin Fenix 7 Series (All Models/Styles) - $100 off!
$699+
From $599⚡This is the first time we've seen the Fenix 7 series on sale! This sale is $100 off all Fenix 7 series models, be it in the Fenix 7S/7/7X or any of the Sapphire/Solar variants.
Garmin Fenix 7 Solar Sapphire - $250 off!$751⚡⚡ While most of the Fenix 7 series is $100 off, this particular unit is $250 off, which is a massive savings!
Garmin Fenix 7X Solar Sapphire - $150 off!$849⚡⚡ While most of the Fenix 7 series is $100 off, this particular unit is $250 off, which is a massive savings!
Garmin Forerunner 245 - $80 off
$299/$349
$220
Garmin Forerunner 245 Music - $100 off$249
Garmin Forerunner 45/45S - $40 off
$199
$129
Garmin Forerunner 735XT - $220 off
$349
$129.99
Garmin HRM-DUAL (ANT+/Bluetooth Smart Strap) - 36% off!
$69
$45⚡ This is one of my go-to straps these days (ANT+ & two concurrent BLE connections). It's floated on and off being on sale, but this is about the lowest we've seen it.
Garmin HRM-PRO Plus - 22% off
$129
$101⚡This is the first time we've seen this on sale - and so it's actually pretty notable. I don't even think it's supposed to be on sale, but this is just Amazon doing Amazon. This is one of the two main HR straps i use these days (alongside the Polar H10). Either way, definitely take this and run!
Garmin Instinct 2 Series - $100 OffFrom $249⚡This is the first time we've seen the Garmin Instinct 2 series devices (all variants) on sale. The Instinct 2 base is from $249 (on Amazon), a very solid deal - especially with all the major software updates it's had over the last year.
Garmin Instinct 2/2S Solar - $50 OffFrom $399
Garmin Instinct 2/2S Surf - $100 OffFrom $299
Garmin Quatix 7 Multisport Marine Smartwatch - all models- $100 offFrom $596
Garmin Venu 2 - $100 Off
$399
$299
Garmin Venu 2 Plus - $100 off!
$449
$349This is the first sale we've seen on the Venu 2 Plus since it launched earlier this year.
Garmin Venu 2S - $100 off$299
Garmin Venu GPS Smartwatch - $100 off
$299
$199Officially this is 50% off, but realistically this is like $50-$100 off on a good day. It's now a few revisions behind, but it's still a solid little watch.
Garmin Venu SQ & Venu SQ Music - 40% off
$199/$249 with Music
From $119
Garmin Vivoactive 4 - $150 off
$299
From $176
Garmin Vivoactive 4S - $150 offFrom 176
Garmin Vivofit Jr. 2 - Incl Disney/Avengers/Star Wars variants - 25% off
$79
$60These are Garmin's kids activity trackers, which all of our kids use (mostly our 5yo, the 6yo uses the Vivofit Jr. 3)
Garmin Vivofit Jr. 3 - 22% off$69My oldest daughter (6yo) uses this as her daily watch. She's happy with it.
Google Pixel Buds Pro - Noise Canceling Earbuds (All Colors) - $50 off!$149⚡This is the first time we've seen a sale on these, given they were just announced about 5 weeks ago.
Google Pixel Watch - 15% off!$299⚡This is the first time we've seen the (just released) Google Pixle Watch on sale!
Peloton Heart Rate Band - 30% off
$89
$63Previously, I'd have said the Peloton Heart Rate Band wasn't really worth it at $90 compared to most other options. But at $67 it's basically the same as others, except has the integration with Peloton's Heart Rate Zone (if you have the Peloton app/gear).
Polar Grit X - 17% off
$429
$357
Polar H10 Chest Strap (Dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart) - 40% off
$89
$54⚡So this has been fluctuating all day between $54 and $75. So it's a bit of luck of the draw. Either way- these are super low prices and great straps. This is one of my main chest straps I use as a reference device in testing. Works great!
Polar Ignite 2 - 22% off
$229
$179While the Polar Ignite 3 just came out, this is a reasonable deal on the older model.
Polar Pacer - 15% off!$170I believe this is the first time we've seen the Polar Pace (base unit) on sale. Note - specifically the black/grey people.
Polar Pacer Pro - $80 off!
$299
$219⚡I believe this is the first time we've seen the Polar Pace Pro on sale. Note - specifically the red/white one is $219, the others are $230-$240.
Polar Vantage M2 - 20% off!
$299
$240
SAMSUNG Galaxy Buds 2 Pro Earbuds - $40 off!$199
Scosche RHYTHM+ 2.0 - 44% off!
$79
$49
Suunto 5 Peak - $60 off!
$299
$239This is Suunto's mid-range/budget multisport GPS unit, and at $239 it's a solid deal.
Suunto 9 Peak - $170 off
$569
$399While Suunto recently released the newer Suunto 9 Peak Pro, this existing model still benefits from many of the software updates.
Withings ScanWatch - Hybrid Smartwatch & Activity Tracker - 20% off$239

Cycling Gear & Trainers:

Got a bike? Then this section is for you.  Everything from bike computers to bike lights to trainers, it’s all here.  I won’t generally be adding things like brake cables or bike seats here, but if I find a good deal on a cassette to stack on that new direct drive trainer you just bought, I’ll probably list it here.

ProductSale PriceAmazonOther siteSale Notes
4iiii Precision Ride-Ready Power Meters - 15-25% off$242This includes the Shimano DuraAce, Ultegra, and 105 units, at between 15-25% off depending on which exact model you select.
Cycliq Fly6 & Fly12 Sport (Bundle) - 25% off$530This is a bundle with both the Fly6 (2021 edition), and the Fly12 Sport (2022 edition), along with some cases/SD cards/etc... There is also single-unit bundles too.
Favero Assioma Duo Power Meter Pedals - $200 off!
$459/$719 (single/dual)
$569⚡ This is a strong deal from Favero, who is offering their Favero Assioma Duo pedals for $200 off.
Garmin Edge 1030 Plus - $200 off
$599
$391⚡While the newer Edge 1040 came out this past summer, the Edge 1030 Plus is still an incredibly solid bike computer - arguably the 2nd best bike computer (behind the Edge 1040).
Garmin Edge 1040 Solar - $50 off$695This is the first time we've seen the Edge 1040 Solar on sale, so while $50 isn't a huge amount off this device, it is notable. This is Garmin's top-end and just released this past summer, cycling GPS bike computer.
Garmin Edge 530 Cycling GPS - $50 off!
$299
$249⚡ This matches last year's Black Friday sale, and is the lowest price to date on the Edge 530. This is one of the main units I use for my day-to-day riding and testing.
Garmin Edge 830 Cycling GPS - $50 off
$399
$349⚡ While this isn't a big sale, it's actually the lowest price the unit has been offered in the 3 years since release - matching Black Friday from this past year.
Garmin Varia RCT715 Camera Radar - $50 off$349This is the first time this product has been on sale, since announcement earlier this year.
Garmin Varia Radar (RTL515) - $50 off
$199
$149This is Garmin's standalone radar/taillight option, and $149 is pretty much the standard sale-price. This product is universally loved, and works with Garmin/Wahoo/Stages/Hammerhead/Bryton, and other bike computers.
Peak Designs Out-Front Bike Mount - 10% off$62This i the out-front bike mount we use on our cargo bikes for the Peak Designs case.
Peak Designs Phone Case - 30% off$27⚡This is the phone case both my wife and I use for our phones, and it's got a bike-mount compatible system. I used to use the Quadlock cases, and those are fine, but I just like how slim these ones are, as well as the fact there's no rotation when unlock it from the handlebars. Plus, I like the cloth-look to it.
Peak Designs Universal Bar Mount - 10% off$44⚡We use this as a floater bike mount for the Peak Designs case. Sometimes i use it on my road bike, mountain bike, and just commuter bikes.
Quarq DZero DUB (Road) PM Spider - 40% off$250⚡This is a major deal. SRAM has allowed retailers to put things on sale that were never allowed before, including power meters. This is the road/gravel variant of the MTB one I use (the XX1).
Quarq DZero DUB XX1 PM Spider - 40% off$449⚡This is a major deal. SRAM has allowed retailers to put things on sale that were never allowed before, including power meters. This is the same exact model I use on my mountain bike. Works well.
Wahoo ELEMNT ROAM V1 - $200 off
$379
$199⚡This is the slightly older ROAM V1, which isn't quite as fancy as the new V2. Still, $200 off is a very solid deal, and it, recently got the new Wahoo Summit Segments feature, as well as other features - so it's still getting the majority (if not all) new firmware features.

Action Cameras & Drones:

Wanna record it?  No better way than an action camera.  Anything that’s action camera-related or drone-related you’ll find here.  That’s especially true of action camera mounts, which are often found for great deals around the holidays.  Same goes with drone and drone accessories.  Usually a great time to pick up an extra battery or extra props.

ProductSale PriceAmazonOther siteSale Notes
DJI Action 2 Dual-Screen Combo Edition - 31% off$359
DJI FPV Combo - $300 off!$899⚡This deal is on DJI's larger FPV drone, the original one. They've also got the smaller but less powerful one too - Avata, which isn't on sale. This is for the FPV combo deal, saving you $400. This includes the drone, FPV goggles, and controller.
DJI Mavic 3 - $150 off
$999
$2,049This is the second time we've seen the DJI Mavic 3 on sale (for a non-bundled deal). With all the firmware improvements since the fall, it's finally getting to a more stable place in terms of features. Of course, you can also now get the DJI Mavic 3 Classic for a fair bit cheaper, minus the zoom lens. Albeit, I personally think the zoom lens is handy (if used correctly).
DJI Mavic Mini Fly More Combo Kit - 40% off$299This is a very solid deal, albeit for an older product. Note the price seems to be fluctuating a bit between $299 an $399 - so just keep an eye out for it.
GoPro HERO11 Black Creator Edition - $150 off$549Includes HERO11 Black, Volta (Battery Grip, Tripod, Remote), Media Mod, Light Mod, Enduro Battery, and Carrying Case.
GoPro Hero 11 Black - $100 off
$499
$399⚡ Amazon now has the Hero 11 Black for $100 off the retail price of $499. This does *NOT* require the GoPro subscription (previously called GoPro Plus). The Hero 11 has become my daily action cam (well, actually, I bought two of them).
GoPro Hero 11 Black - $100 off$449GoPro HERO11 Black Accessory Bundle - Includes Extra Enduro Battery (2 Total), The Handler (Floating Hand Grip), Headstrap + Quick Clip, and Carrying Case.
SanDisk Extreme Pro 256GB MicroSD Card - 20% off!$40⚡I use this card in both 128GB and 256GB variety (but mostly 256GB nowadays), and it's perfect for all my drones and action cams, easily recording 4K/60 and 5K/30, as well as 5.7K without trouble. I often pick up these cards when on sale like this, so I have them for later in the year when not on sale. // Update: Since this sale has begun, I've bought 6 of these cards to stockpile for future action cam/drone testing.
Skydio 2+ Battery - Buy one/Get One Free (+$25 discount)$90This is a pretty impressive deal. This is a $25 discount to $90, then it's buy one, get one free. So $45. Drone batteries are never $45. This is solid!
Skydio 2+ Starter Kit - $200 off!
$999/$1349
$899In terms of autonomy and self-following from a drone, nothing beats Skydio today.

Other Sports & Fitness:

Anything else that’s sports and fitness-related that I think is interesting will be here.  It may not be super techy – but it’s stuff that most readers will be using in pursuit of their running/cycling/swimming/hiking/whatever.

ProductSale PriceAmazonOther siteSale Notes
Apple TV 4K (32GB) for Zwift - $50 off$79⚡⚡ I use this for almost all my Zwifting. This is a fantastic deal, which runs Zwift, RGT, FulGaz, Rouvy, and more. While Apple just released their newest version (2022), virtually no cycling apps have taken advantage of it yet. And thus for now, the edition on sale for $79 seems like a steal.
Apple TV Elago R1 (2021 Edition) Remote Case- 64% offfrom $6.39I use Apple TV for Zwift the vast majority of the time, but also just for watching YouTube/Netflix/etc on the trainer. The Apple TV remote sucks though. This $10 case fixes that, it's a silicone strap that makes it easy to grab, but also has a strap to easily place on the edge of your handlebars. Boom! Note: This one is for Apple TV 4K 2021 Edition!
CORE Body Temp Sensor - 20% off$214The CORE Body temp sensor measures your body core, and is used by numerous Pro Cycling teams. I haven't gotten a full review up, but have been using it on/off over the last year. It's pretty fascinating stuff. I believe this is the first sale they've had. On the sale side, they also have a bundle with a chest HRM as well that's on sale.
Frontier X2 Smart Heart Monitor - 26% off$405Note: I haven't reviewed this yet. It's on my eventual list.
Garmin inReach 2 Mini Satellite Communicator (2-way) - $75 off$327This is the first time we've seen this unit on sale, as it only came out earlier this year. It's my defacto satellite communicator when out of coverage area, and I've used it on a number of major treks this year out of cell range already.
Peloton Row - Bundle with $300 in accessories free$3,320While the Peloton Row just started shipping last week, Peloton has already put a bundle on for sale, inclusive of about $300 in accessories. Well, technically speaking you have to pay $20 extra for those accessories, but hey...close enough.
RunScribe Red Gait Lab Footpods - 20% offWhile RunScribe has transitioned from a consumer-focused running efficiency company to more of a pro/labs-focused company, consumers do still buy and use their products. They're offering 20% off for Black Friday. Use discount code RED20.
Stryd V2 Running Pod - $41 off$228Stryd pretty much only puts their items on once a year at Black Friday, so if you're in the market for one, now's the time. This is their latest gen unit that just announced this past fall.
Therabody Theragun Elite - $100 off$299⚡ This is arguably my wife's favorite sports tech gadget. She uses it pretty much daily. Thus, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention this deal. Also, please don't tell her, she might just buy another one...
Therabody Theragun Mini - 21% off$159My wife uses the Theragun Elite, which is a bit larger than this Mini model, and also includes more tips. But, as noted - people seem happy with all these models.
Therabody Theragun Prime - 34% off$198My wife uses the Theragun Elite, which is just slightly more expensive than this model at $299 on sale right now. But hey, I hear good things about all of these.
Withings Sleep Tracking Pad - 31% off$89Fun tidbit: I actually use this. Well, more specifically, I use the far older bedside clock version, but, the sensor is essentially the same. Simply that the new sensor doesn't require a bedside clock anymore. But, if you don't like wearing a wearable to bed, then this will still track all your nighttime stats.

DCR Random Gadget List:

This is basically the mostly totally unrelated gadgets and things I think are cool deals that I’ve likely bought one or five of (you can never have too many, right)?  Some of it’s probably photography stuff.  Some of it’s random stuff like chargers and battery packs that I use daily, fun camera gear I use to make videos like sliders and turntables, and well…just random things you’ll find around the DCR Cave.  It’s all random…but it’s all awesome randomness!

ProductSale PriceAmazonSale Notes
2021 Apple 10.2-inch iPad (Wi-Fi, 64GB) - $70 off!$269I use my iPad primarily for TrainerRoad as well as Zwift when not with a larger display. I also occasionally use it for other apps, namely Wahoo SYSTM, Rouvy, and Peloton. But I pretty much test every smart trainer app on it. For all these cycling apps, the graphics capabilities is really pretty irrelevant, so having the absolute top-end/latest model won't make any difference. I prefer the budget options.
2021 Apple MacBook Pro (14", M1 Pro) - 20% offFrom $1,599This is the exact model I have and use for almost all my video editing (2021 MacBook Pro with 1TB space,). I actually initially bought a 16" M1 Max variant, and then quickly realized it was totally overkill both in size and spec, so I went back and got the 14" M1 Pro and have been super happy with it - even while editing complex drone/action cam videos with 3-4 concurrently 4K streams in a multicam configuration, it has zero issues.
Google Nest Cam Indoors - 30% off$69We have more Nest cam's than I can count. No really, we have half a dozen at the DCR Cave alone, plus more at home. We love them. Nest Cam's really only go on sale about 1-2x per year.
Jackery Portable Power Station - $50 off$299This is something I use frequently when shooting out and about and I need to re-charge a crapton of drone batteries, action cameras, or just cameras and such. I also use it on trips to Eurobike and elsewhere to keep equipment charged. I've even bought a solar panel to hook up to it (surprisingly effective). Heck, I've even powered a KICKR trainer ride from it!
Nespresso Vertuo Next Coffee & Espresso Kit - 30% off$118⚡ Let's be honest: This place runs on Nespresso (or, well, the knock-off pods we buy). But, the machine is Nespresso. Without it, reviews most definitely would not get done (and certainly not on time). This is a pretty sweet deal if you ask me!
Nest Cam Outdoors - $60 off$119We use one of these and so far after I think just about four years, it's working great for us. Love it, and works better than trying to stick a regular Nest Cam out the window (since it'll reflect both during daytime and at night with the IR sensor).
Ooni Fyra 12 Wood Fired Outdoor Portable Pizza Oven - $70 off!$279⚡ I know, I know, I still owe everyone a review. Nonetheless, more than a year later, I love this thing. We use it for more than pizza too, notably steaks (to get a really crispy sear). But a lot of pizza. It's completely portable, even easily fitting on our cargo bike. Note that I went with this model, the cheapest one they make, as I realized that buying the higher-end models that that support gas didn't make much sense for me. I have a gas grill already (and could easily just put a stone on it). Similarly, while a large 16" is appealing, realistically I've found this 12" more than enough for pretty substantial personal pizzas (and it makes it easier to handle). Full in-depth review pretty soon...probably.
Peak Designs Phone Case Tripod - 10% off$71.95
Samsung T7 Portable SSD 1-2TB - 36% off$89I use a small fleet of these T7 SSD's for various video projects, alongside the Sandisk SSD's. I literally have one of each color, just to keep things simple. They work great for quick storage. Note: Different colors have different sale prices - I don't understand why.
SanDisk 256GB Extreme PRO SD Cards - 18% off$51I use the SanDisk Extreme Pro SD Cards exclusively for all my video/photo shooting on my Panasonic GH5 and Nikon cameras (video and stills), including up to 6K recording with the GH5. I've mostly used 128's, but more and more lately I'm filling up cards faster with higher bitrates, so this sale is gonna have me pickup a bunch of the 256GB ones instead. The 128GB/ 512GB/1TB ones are also on sale too viathe same link. Note that usually I wait till these are about $40-45, so this is a good, but not yet fantastic deal.
SanDisk Extreme Pro 256GB MicroSD Card - 20% off!$40⚡I use this card in both 128GB and 256GB variety (but mostly 256GB nowadays), and it's perfect for all my drones and action cams, easily recording 4K/60 and 5K/30, as well as 5.7K without trouble. I often pick up these cards when on sale like this, so I have them for later in the year when not on sale. // Update: Since this sale has begun, I've bought 6 of these cards to stockpile for future action cam/drone testing.

I’ll continue to add deals as I find them.

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30 Comments

  1. Pavel Vishnyakov

    Hi Ray,
    GoPro table is slightly inconsistent – the link is for GoPro 11, but the description talks about GoPro 10

    And out of curiosity – will you write anything on Peloton Guide or is it slightly outside of your regular scope?

  2. David

    In the UK early access Amazon deals, the Garmin 245 is £139.99 and Garmin 245 with Music is £169.99. Any thoughts/comparisons?

    The Garmin instinct is also on offer.

  3. John

    While I agree with the Pizza oven size of 12 over 16, I have to disagree with the aspect of using a grill as a pizza oven for gas powered. You don’t get that flame from above like you do with an Ooni. It’s not the same. Sounds like we need a review of the full Ooni lineup!

    • Dave Lusty

      Having gone from Uuni 2s* to Ooni Koda 12 I am definitely on the side of wood pellets. They’re messy but the heat is way better for the base and produces a better pizza.

      *In the it took Ray to finish his jobs list and get approval from the boss they changed the company name from Uuni to Ooni because English speakers couldn’t pronounce it. Uuni means oven, I believe Ooni is just a trademark and otherwise meaningless.

    • Tom

      Ooni Karu 12 (can use gas or wood) owner here and LOVE it.
      My $ .02
      * Agree, that pizza stone in grill does not do the same thing
      *either gas or wood will get you to 500C degrees
      *wood is convenient (always there) but i find no wood/smoke flavor transfer
      * gas keeps flame/heat at consistent temp for longer time, important if doing multiple pies/plates
      *Ooni ovens have gotten pricey but usually there are black friday deals

    • Dave Lusty

      The gas is definitely not as hot as the wood pellets, and takes considerably longer to get up to max temperature as well as to reset between cooks. It’s definitely cleaner though, and agree the pizza ends up tasting the same. I wouldn’t go back to wood, but that’s just because gas is so much cleaner, everything else is better with pellets.

  4. Peter Z.

    The Apple TV natively runs the training apps, without linking a phone or laptop?

  5. Craig Robertson

    Garmin Speed & Cadence Sensor is good price too on Amazon UK – £39.99
    Cheapest it’s been for a long time..

  6. David E

    Suunto also just reduced the price of their 9 Peak watches considerably, to US$469 and US$569 for titanium (down from $575 and $700). But they also just released the 9 Peak Pro today too (better battery life, faster menu, and other things??). I’m interested in Ray’s opinions on the 9 Peak Pro and if it’s worth the $549/$699 price over the regular 9 Peak.

    • Dave Lusty

      My thinking is that Ray prioritised this post and the Marq post over the new Suunto. Even at the newer low price it’s overpriced in 2022 as a watch with no music or maps, and a very iffy track record of app support from Suunto. The FR955 is similar in price and is more capable in almost every way, you’d have to really hate Garmin or really love the look of the Suunto to get the new 9 which although it has a new charge cable doesn’t really add anything over the original 9 Baro.

    • David E

      I do prefer the look of the Suunto 9 Peak (and pro) to any of the Garmins. But coming from a Garmin Fenix 3, the question is if I’m going to be disappointed in the functionality of a Suunto. I have heard some say they love the Suunto phone app for interfacing with their watches. But you’re right in that functionality/feature wise, all signs point to Garmin.

    • Yup, full post on the Peak Pro coming.

      Frankly, I just wrote down the wrong embargo date (as tomorrow), and woke up this morning to see that apparently, it was not the 12th. Sigh.

      Sadly, with as busy as things are these past 5-6 weeks, nothing is done/ready till minutes before something announces (or, when I thought it would announce).

    • Dave Lusty

      Surely the Peak Pro you can just copy and paste from the original 9 and add a section about shiny titanium? Did they add any actual functionality?

      I’d love to see them move forwards, the watches are quite nice looking (same for Polar) but realistically compared to pretty much any Garmin it’s a hard choice. Maybe if they reassigned the budget/team in charge of charge cable design to music, maps, apps, anything else…

    • blueridgerunner

      So much snark! You’re clearly not a Suunto fan, but everybody’s deserves to find what works for them.

      Lets wait for the review before dogpiling.

    • Dave Lusty

      It’s not snark, it’s just where we’re at in 2022. I have several Suunto watches, actually, and used to be a huge fan including my Stinger dive watch which is still going strong after 23 years. They’ve fallen very clearly behind on features due to constant changes in direction instead of focusing on innovation. They’ve added almost nothing since the original 9 (or even Spartan, realistically, which removed a bunch of features from their older range). In that time they destroyed a great platform (movescount) and replaced it with a barely functional app. On the dive side they’ve replaced the platform multiple times in order to make watches obsolete, leading to users like me using third party apps. Every watch has had a different charge cable for no reason whatsoever.
      In the mean time, Garmin added maps, music, Wi-Fi, drastically improved their app and web platform, which has been consistent throughout. They also added Amoled to the range, LTE, increased battery life to literally weeks or months, added solar, and kept a single charge cable for all of their watches so they are interchangeable. I now have 5 spare Garmin charge cables plus the ones in use in my work bag, car, boat, home.

      It’s not up for debate that Garmin have a better range, better plan, and better execution. The Peak is a nice looking watch, albeit more bulky in person than it looks in marketing pics. But realistically, it’s a $300 watch in 2022 when viewed alongside Forerunner, Fenix, and Epix. Even measured against a Polar it comes up short due to their much better training platform (I also have a few Polar watches).

    • Fabio

      Spot on.
      I think the swim, bike, run drills from the Suunto App+ might be a good starting point. If they add an AI training feature included in the ecosystem at a free or better price than Humango or simillar they might get a something new out of it.. Otherwise it’s a very nice, very good looking sportswatch assembled in Finland.

    • blueridgerummer

      @Dave Yeah, Garmin is a bigger company with better “range,” but that’s like saying GM is automatically better than Tesla because GM makes sedans, trucks, SUVs, minivans, etc. while Tesla makes … a car. For some people, that car is all they want and/or need and it suits them best. Likewise, many people find that smaller brands like Suunto or Coros deliver exactly what suits them in a combination of features, design, activity tracking and price.

      A company like Suunto has formed its niche in the ultrarunning and adventure space and isn’t necessarily expecting to shoot for mass appeal.

      There are many reasons I have zero interest in a Peak or even the newer Peak Pro, but that doesn’t mean I don’t understand why others are drawn to the watch. Everyone has their preferences. Even in this conversation, you call Sunnto’s app “barely functional,” but in many ways, it is worlds better than what Garmin’s app is. So is Coros’ app. Garmin’s app is functionally loathsome, visually obnoxious, and directionless, and it’s the reason I left Garmin in early 2021.

      But I’m probably wasting my time here, since “it’s not up for debate” …

  7. Paulo Menezes

    Hi Ray,

    Wahoo ELEMNT Bolt V2 -22% 232,89€ in Amazon Spain.
    Is it a good option?

    Thanks.

  8. Joe

    I don’t know why, but Apple TV sells for 219 Euro when I click the Amazon.de link.

  9. Brandon

    What do we think of that first grit x at half off? $213 seems like a great deal.

  10. Peter Z.

    So, Apple just announced new Apple TV devices. This while the 2021 Apple TV 4K 32GB I bought from Amazon sale last week ($105) just arrived and is still in the box.

    Is it worth returning and upgrading to the new, faster WiFi model for $129 or even the $149 model with Ethernet now?

    The one I have does have network connection I might use. How crucial is that compared to CPU? I’m guessing many if not most people just use WiFi

    • Yeah, I’d honestly return it and get the $129 one (unless you really need Ethernet, but I doubt most do) if you’re using it for Zwift. We probably won’t know for 3-4 weeks what the perf on Zwift will be like, but realistically it’s heavily likely to be better – perhaps substantially so.

      Given you’ll probably have this unit for 2-3 years (or longer), I’d spend the extra $25. I ordered one, and will dig into it, once things are released and Zwift updated.

      Thanks for being a DCR Supporter!

    • Peter Z.

      Thanks for the reply! Wasn’t sure if you’d see question on old thread.

  11. Akshay

    Does Tacx Neo 2T ever go on sale on Black Friday in the US?