Note if you're reading a watch review: Note that over the past few months new Garmin, Timex and Polar watches have been released. If you're stopping by to read one of my many watch reviews, you'll definitely want to check out the new Garmin FR910XT In Depth Review, the Garmin FR610 In Depth Review, Timex Run Trainer and Polar RCX5 In Depth Review. Always best to know all your options out there. Enjoy!

Tuesday, August 31, 2010

Thoughts on USAT Race Official Staffing

Race Directors have a tough job – there’s no doubt about that.  They have to balance putting on a quality event, while still making it work financially.  Triathlons are far from cheap events to put on, instead of just one sport – there are three.  This means three times the amount of space/area/roads to close, three times the complexity and in many cases – up to three times the insurance costs.  So many races ‘scrape by’ from year to year, with Race Directors putting them on without making much, if any money.  The vast majority of race directors do it because they love the sport and the community it brings.

This post is not about them.

This post is about the other end of the spectrum.  This is about high profile, high numbers of athlete races which do make money…sometimes lots of money.  There are really only a handful of races that fall into this category each year in the US and abroad.  And for this specific post, I’m actually not talking about Ironman or Ironman 70.3’s.  Instead, I’m talking primarily about Olympic distance races.

See, it’s these races that offer the biggest ‘bang’ for the buck.  Many of these higher profile events are charging upwards of $200-250 an athlete for the International Distance event.  And many of these races have upwards of 4,000-6,000 athletes, combined with major and minor sponsors.

With that, there’s an interesting trend developing amongst some races (but primarily high profile races) of not staffing enough USAT officials for the event.  In fact, some upcoming major races are actually only staffing USAT officials for Elite or Elite-like waves.  This despite collecting race fees from everyone.

In short: If you’re not racing elite…your race isn’t really being officiated.

Now – one might ask if this is a question of money.  After all – aren’t USAT officials paid?  Yup, they are.  But for an USAT Official at the Oly/Sprint distance the fee is only $85.  Meaning, it would take a 43 cent increase in price for every 200 athletes to cover this.  Often motorcycles are covered by local motorcycle clubs which do it on a volunteer basis.  There can be additional hotel costs for races that have to pull officials from a different area – but largely speaking, major races near urban areas (cities) don’t have this issue.

Next you might ask – what is the recommended USAT ratio of racers to Refs?  Well, it varies a bit – but roughly speaking the minimum suggested number of ref’s is 1 per 200 racers.  So, an event with 1,000 people would have at least 5 refs out on the course.

Finally you might ask – why not simply charge everyone an extra few bucks and add more refs?  Well, that’s a Race Director decision for the most part.  In some cases the Race Director’s would say that the course becomes unsafe with the additional motorcycles.  Ironically, it’s these same races that are trying to cram 5,000+ people onto a course that’s realistically not fit for 5,000 cyclists trying to compete, let alone an extra 10 or so motorcycles.

But triathlon racing in general is a business, not a charity event.  Thus, most of the companies putting on larger races do it to make money.  Their two choices are usually either raise the number of racers, or raise the price.  Though it seems the popular ones actually utilize both techniques.

The issue here isn’t USAT or USAT officials – they just staff based on race directors requests.  Meaning, USAT doesn’t decide how many ref’s to assign to a race.  They simply ‘fulfill an order’ from the Race Director.

Now – the real question I have is: Does it bother you?

Does it bother you that you’ve paid your $250, but your race isn’t actually officiated unless you’re in that Elite/Elite-ish wave?

I know it would for me.

So I’m curious: What are your thoughts on it?  Should Race Directors ensure that races are adequately staffed with USAT officials – or is a token presence good enough to do the job?  And if increasing the staffing to ‘keep it safe’ means decreasing the number of racers on spot-limited events – is that OK?  And are you willing to pay an extra 50 cents or a dollar to have a full staffed event?

Monday, August 30, 2010

Power Meters and Pop-Tarts

While the summer may be winding down, my training certainly isn’t.  I've still got three races (well, technically four) before the end of my tri season.  And that’s before I end up figuring out what I’m doing running wise for the fall.  So many options!

Speaking of the races, I’ve kinda switched things up a bit based on my travel schedule for September, so here’s the final version:

- Kirkland Sprint Triathlon (Seattle) – September 18th
- Las Vegas Oly Distance Triathlon (Las Vegas) – September 26th
- Giant Acorn Oly Distance Triathlon (Northern Virginia) – October 2nd
- Giant Acorn Sprint Distance Triathlon (Northern Virginia) – October 3rd

That last weekend back at home should be a blast, looking forward to it.  Vegas made sense since I’ll be down there for Interbike.  And the Seattle one is there because I’ll be out there already.  See…logical…right?

Anyway…back to this weekend.

It included a painfully slow 10-mile run on Saturday.  I think my slowest run in years.  It was hot, humid…and..well..hot.  And for whatever reason I just wasn’t jiving.

Fresh off a so-so run, I worked to setup the iBike I was sent earlier in the week.  The iBike is a cycling power meter that can be much cheaper than a traditional direct force power meter like the PowerTAP, SRM or Cinqo.

However, in Power Meter circles, the quickest way to ignite an argument is to discuss the iBike’s consistency, accuracy and reliability.  And while I will address those…it won’t be today. Eventually you’ll get a full blown review with weeks of data comparison and analysis, but until then I’m going to focus on finding all the pro’s and con’s – just like all my other reviews.

With that said, I went about the setup process.

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This turned out to be a highly frustrating experience.  I spent many hours of my life I won’t get back working to set it up.

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I would eventually try again later that night, before giving up.  But I’d give it another go on Sunday.

On the flip side, my swim later on that afternoon did go quite well!

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Over the past week Coach has re-introduced a bunch of much shorter distance speed work into my swims.  Instead of the 700’s, I’m down to everything from 50’s/100’s to 250-400’s.  Mostly alternating very hard with very easy paces.  As a resultant, my usually weekly 700y time trial at the end of Saturday’s long continuous swim was a fair bit faster.  Almost 15 seconds shaved off my top time.   Woot!  And, I finished up just in time this week, no basketball to the head.

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Later on, there was only one thing that needed to happen.  Sushi!  The Girl and I slaughtered the below plate.  Plus, despite the fact that she rides a circus bike (650cc tires), she can equal my sushi consumption.  Scary…but impressive.

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Sunday brought Skyline (cycling in the mountains).

I headed up shortly after lunch and arrived at my usual parking lot.  Instead of starting right away on my ride, I gave the iBike setup one last whirl, from scratch.  Proper calibration also involves weighing yourself, your bike, and anything else you intend to take with you.  So I did that.  In a National Park Visitor Center parking lot.  I therefor matched the acorn that’s in the forefront of the picture.

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After a bunch of ‘tilt tests’, I headed out for a 2-mile calibration ride. And for the first time in two days…I was finally successful.  Woot!

Finally, time to get on with my ride.

One cool thing with the iBike is it’ll use ANT+ to connect to all your existing devices, including my Quarq Cinqo crank-based power meter.  This means that I’m later able to chart exactly how it fairs against a ‘normal’ power meter.

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It also contains a wind port on the front to measure wind – and by cancelling out your moving speed, can determine wind speed:

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My ride went relatively normal – about 54 miles in all on a nice sunny (but hot) day.

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The only catch of the day was that the rest station I often pickup water at near my turnaround point, had signs saying that if I drank the water…I’d die:

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I was already out of water and a bit behind on hydration, so this ended up hosing me a bit.  By time I got back to a point to get water it would nearly be an hour since last water.  So I took a moment to down a few bottles of Gatorade and water…along with a pop-tart.  Just cause.

Well, actually, I have a long history of picking up pop-tarts in emergency food situations.

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After that I completed the final hour, and even shaved off 47 seconds off of last week’s time trial (I end up doing the last 12 miles or so), including three significant climbs.  Woohoo!

Once I was done, it was back to the parking lot to load up the car:

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When I got home I was able to play a bit with iBike’s (free) software for their power meter.  I’ll give them credit in that they display a tons of data.  Like, really amazing amounts of data.

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You can see in this graph the comparison between the iBike power meter, and the Cinqo power meter. My Cinqo is in green, and the iBike in white.

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I’ll explore more of the iBike in future posts…

So with that…my weekend of training is complete.  Hope you have a good week!

Sunday, August 29, 2010

Weekly Mailbag–August 29th, 2010

WeeklyMailbagIconHere’s this week’s edition of the weekly mailbag.  This is a weekly series where I feature a handful of the e-mailed questions I received from the previous week or so.  I try and pick a wide variety of questions. Some are technical in nature, some sport related, and sometimes all sorts of other randomness – as you’ll see below.

This week’s mailbag covers the following topics:

1) Multiple Users and Garmin Fitness Watches-
2) Rolling/Folding Wetsuits
3) Which websites to find races
4) Forerunner 310XT Mount Options
5) Item of the utmost importance

Question #1: Multiple Users and Garmin Fitness Watches-
From Crass-

“My wife and I have recently started running and I hope to get a bike to start cycling soon.  So we picked up this sweet watch this weekend to track our training.  We only bought one watch as we are not yet ready to commit to buying two of them (due to the high cost).  If we get plenty of use out of it and like it and keep running, we will certainly buy a second one, but for now I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to share it.  Do you know if it is reasonably possible to share the watch and both of us take advantage of all of the cool online features (either through Garmin Connect or a third party site)?  I have searched and searched and cannot come up with an answer.  After reading your reviews you seem to have quite a lot of experience with several different data collection and analysis sites, so I'm hoping you might have the answer to my question.”

As you've found, there isn't a way to easily have two separate user profiles on the watch itself (though you can setup multiple bikes).  Your best bet is indeed using online software.  The challenge with Garmin Connect is that it automatically uploads from the 310XT to one persons account.  One option would be to use a second account for the second person, and that person simply uploads the files manually.  The other person meanwhile deletes the unneeded ones.
 
Another option would be Training Peaks - which offers more features than Garmin Connect, and would make it super easy to just pick the workouts which that individual did.
 
The last option is Sport Tracks, which is a non-online athlete tracking program that's free and offers the ability to have multiple users via separate logbooks.  That too allows you to pick individual workouts.

Question #2: Rolling/Folding Wetsuit-
From Brian-

“I'm flying up to Maine over labor day weekend and I'm also doing the Nations Triathlon the following weekend.  I want to continue my training up in Maine and I know you have plenty of experience with traveling.  I plan to bring my wetsuit, in your opinion, what is the best way to travel with my wetsuit?  Can I use my current suitcase or do I need to buy something for this purpose?  I have a traditional suitcase as well as a suite suitcase that I can bring.   On Slowtwitch there was conflicting opinions about folding the wetsuit and rolling it.  I appreciate any inputs you can give me.”

For wetsuits when I travel, I just cram it in any way it'll fit really.  I used to toss it in my bike case, but now I usually just fold it on the top of my luggage in my suitcase.  I went away from the bike case route simply because I try and keep that as light as possible in hopes of scamming out of avoiding paying bike fees.  So now I just fold it once on top of my luggage right before I close my suitcase.
 
Wetsuits are actually delivered to tri/bike/swim shops folded in a box not terribly unlike a big shoe box, sorta flat and wide.  So, the way I see - it can fold again. :)

For me, I’ve had mine over three years now (and it’s not an expensive model), and it survives just fine.  I haven’t drown yet.

Question #3: Which websites to find races
From Donald-

“Quick question.  What websites do you find has the best list of triathlons for our general area?  (I live in Baltimore).”

Quick question with an easy answer – my list of race schedule sites. I put it together a bit back, but it's still pretty accurate.  Hope this helps!

Question #4: Forerunner 310XT Mount Options
from Jake-

“I have an Edge 500 computer that I have been using for about 6 months and love it.  I just purchased a 310xt and plan to use it in triathlons.  I see in your blog that you have a quick release kit specific for the 310 that has a different strap for the watch that is similar to the edge 500 mount.  I cannot find this listed on Garmin's website.  I was hoping you might know a part #, listing, or where I might get one.”

Yup, the Forerunner 310XT quick release kit is fully compatible with the mount for the Edge 500/800...and vice versa.  Meaning, you can mount your 310XT on the Edge 500/800 once you've attached the quick release kit to it.  I LOVE the Edge rubber band kits, check out my review on the Edge 500 or Edge 800 for more details on them.

Here's the Garmin 310XT Quick Release Kit ($21)
Here's the Edge 500 bike mounts ($8, pack of two)

The quick release kit comes with a new/different strap that's black.  Though there's also an orange quick release kit now available too, but finding it stateside is quite difficult.  Finally, if you haven’t seen my huge post on the quick release kits…scurry on over there pronto!

Item of utmost importance-

As I post this, the final finishers from both Ironman Canada and Ironman Louisville are making their way to the finish line before the midnight cutoff.  While I did Ironman Canada the previous two years, I took this year off from Ironman’s to focus on shorter distance events.  Though, you can read all my past Ironman Canada posts here (I’m not responsible for your lost productivity).

However, what is FAR more important – is that good friend Carl, who we’ve trained with and hung out for weekends at Lake Anna with, did Ironman Louisville today…for his first Ironman!

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He went out there and took no prisoners – and his official finishing line photos will surely be pretty entertaining.  We tracked him all day and the above was a snapshot I took as he came across the line. On top of that, he’s raised over $5,000 for a local shelter here in the DC area.  Which is pretty awesome too!  You can of course still donate to a great cause.

Congrats Carl!

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Recent Mailbags:

Weekly Mailbag – August 21st, 2010

- Choosing iPhone or Garmin as running buddy?
- Why no Polar Product Reviews?
- Want Android support for ANT+?  Read on…
- Random note of the week: Looking for web designer

Weekly Mailbag – August 17th, 2010

- Travelling with Gels
- Displaying Live ANT+ Data to a computer 
- Which Garmin’s I use for races

You can find all past mailbags here.

Thursday, August 26, 2010

Garmin Edge 800 In Depth First Look Review

Late one evening earlier this week I got a little note from the folks at Garmin that an overnight package was on its way to my doorstep. Inside it was the brand new Edge 800 cycling computer.

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What expect is the Edge 800 you ask?  Well, it’s a new bike computer that aims to provide all of the cycling features you’d expect from the Edge series (ANT+ support, power meter compatibility and configuration, GPS route recording and workout capabilities), and combine it with features from not only the higher end Edge 705, but also from many of Garmin’s outdoor line of products that allow you to include satellite imagery – known as Birdseye Satellite imagery and custom maps, which we’ll get into in a bit.

In effect, this is combing the best of both words – the smaller form factor closer to the Edge 500, but with a higher resolution screen and far more features than the last generation Edge 705 – all with the fill-in features like a touch-screen from the outdoor/hiking units…finally, in a price about half-way in between.

Like all my reviews, they tend to be pretty in depth (perhaps overly so) – but that’s just my trademark DC Rainmaker way of doing things.  Think of them more like reference guides than quick and easy summaries.  I try and cover every conceivable thing you might do with the device and then poke at it a bit more.  My goal is to leave no stone unturned – both the good and the bad.

Because I want to be transparent about my reviews, as I mentioned when I first got the device – Garmin sent me this Edge 800 for a period of 45 days as a trial unit.  Once that period has elapsed, I send the whole messed up box back to the folks in Kansas.  Simple as that.  Sorta like hiking in wilderness trails – leave only footprints.  If you find my review useful, you can use any of the Amazon links from this page to help support future reviews.

Lastly, at the end of the day keep in mind I’m just like any other regular athlete out there.  I write these reviews because I’m inherently a curious person with a technology background, and thus I try and be as complete as I can.  But, if I’ve missed something or if you spot something that doesn’t quite jive – just let me know and I’ll be happy to get it all sorted out.  Also, because the technology world constantly changes, I try and go back and update these reviews as new features and functionality are added – or if bugs are fixed.

So – with that intro, let’s get into things.

Unboxing:

When it first arrives in your hands, it’ll look a lot like this:

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After opening it up, you’ll find a box packed with little plastic baggies:

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Take those baggies out, and you’ve moved from a large pile of baggies, to a flat surface of baggies:

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After removing enough plastic to make a small blimp, here’s the goods:

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I’ve gone through and labeled all the different components that came in the box:

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Of course, the real center piece is the Edge 800 itself:

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Size Comparison and Weights:

The first question cyclists always ask is: How much does it weigh?  Followed closely by…how big is it?  So, let’s start with size.  I put it in a typical Altoids tin for comparison.  If you can’t find an Altoids tin around your pad…I suggest a trip to 7-11.  They have Slurpee's anyway…

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Next up, comparison against the popular Edge 500, and the Edge 705:

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And last but not least, the weight test.  I start with the Edge 500, then do the Edge 800 and then the oldest and heaviest of the bunch – the Edge 705.  All figures are in ounces: The Edge 500 is 2.05, the Edge 800 is 3.45 and the Edge 705 is 3.85.

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You can see weight-wise it slots in between the Edge 500 and Edge 705 – despite being smaller/lighter than the Edge 705, the screen is actually the same size.

You may be wondering exactly how much 3.45 ounces is.  Well, it’s about the same as two medium sized eggs:

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All in all, it’s pretty small and fairly light.  And in my case, I generally reason that if the extra weight is a big deal – I’m pretty sure I could just forgo a few cookies and lose it off of my posterior instead.

Getting it on the bike:

The Edge 800 uses the newer quarter turn mount system that was introduced with the Edge 500 (well, technically it started with the quick release kit on the Garmin 310XT).  This mount system snaps in place using industrial strength rubber bands, and then the unit simply attaches in via a quick quarter turn mount.

This is a huge improvement over the older Edge 705’s mount system…which was a bit of a PITA to say the least.  The older system was susceptible to breakage and especially for mountain bikers –  popping off.  I’ve been using the new quarter-turn mount system for about 9 months now and absolutely love it.  It’s super easy to remove the device, yet, the device is highly unlikely to leave your bike.  I’m relatively certain if you got hit by a semi-truck, the only thing left still in one piece would be the mount/device to your handlebar.

But…the real kicker is that these mounts are cheap – $9 for a box of two of them, a million rubber bands.  Though, everything below is included inbox with the Edge 800 itself – two full sets.

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This makes it easy to swap between bikes.  I bought a few boxes of them and put them on all my bikes, and my two turtles.

Here’s a quick video on how it snaps in place:

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Note that I’ve tried it on both a triathlon bike and a standard road bike.  On the tri bike I find it fits best up on the aerobars:

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And on a road bike, your standard bar placement works pretty well:

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(You’ll notice I have the 310XT quick release mount to the side zip tied, that’s also compatible with the Edge 800)

One question that’s often asked is: “Can I use it for running?”.  The answer is: Sorta.  The Edge 800 will record the GPS information just fine, along with heart rate.  However, it’ll show your speed in MPH (or KPH) and not in the standard Minutes/Mile pace format.  Also, it’s not quite designed for your wrist, but if you pickup the cheap 310XT quick release kit, it’ll snap into that just fine.

Base Cycling Features:

Once you get it all situated on the bike, you may want to pair it to any of your existing ANT+ sensors you have – such as a speed/cadence sensor or a 3rd party power meter.  This only takes a second via the menu system:

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Once those are set, it’s time to get rolling.  By default the Edge 800 will utilize GPS to determine speed, distance and other location information.  The Edge 800 uses the same GPS chip as the Edge 500 that came out just later year.  In my experience with the Edge 500, the GPS has no issues tracking in virtually all conditions…from trails to airplane flights.  In my testing with the Edge 800 – the resultant is the same – no issues in tracking.

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Below is a page I setup with the information I typically use on a given ride:

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And here’s another screen with less information displayed – only three fields (click to expand):

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Once you’re riding, you’ll have a number of data fields that can be displayed at any one point in time.  You can set up to 10 data fields per data screen (up from eight), and have up to 3 primary data screens, in addition to map and course based screens.  You can customize all of these screens and data fields however you’d like with the following information:

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(Note: These are transcribed directly from the menu’s, expand to actually be readable)

Customizing only takes a second via the menu system.  If you’re interested in what data fields I use, here’s my post on how I setup my Edge for different scenarios from racing to training. You’ll notice the screen is super clear, whether in sun or shade:

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And by switching to the larger display fields, you can see it from quite far away:

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The Edge 800 supports Auto Pause, which is great for city riding.  Auto Pause automatically starts and stops the timer once you bike speed has reached a given (customizable) threshold.  This is useful if you have a lot of stop lights along the way and get tired of pressing stop/start each time you hit a light.

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Note however that it’s generally recommend you turn Auto Pause off if you’re using a Power Meter and analyzing some power-specific workout information such as Normalized Power, where introducing unaccounted for gaps in time can twist your results and artificially inflate them.  Just the way the calculations work.

Like the Edge 500, the Edge 800 also supports a movement warning system that lets you know you haven’t hit start yet, but are moving.  This is especially useful if you don’t use Auto Pause and instead rely on the old noggin to remember to press start after that bio break.

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The Edge 800 includes a barometric altimeter in it.  This is standard issue for the Edge line, but isn’t found on the triathlon/running line (Forerunner’s).  Barometric altimeters generally improve elevation accuracy over typical GPS altimeters as they use changes in air pressure versus GPS using a fairly complex triangulation method that’s prone to errors.  The Edge 800 also lets you customize known elevation data points to allow you to calibrate off that data point.  If you’d like a good look at barometric vs GPS altimeters in sport devices, check out this post I wrote up.

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The Edge 800 includes a temperature sensor that will display and record temperature along the course of your ride.  While I’m still trying to find a good training reason to have a thermometer, I do like the fact that they’ve continued to include it within the Edge series.

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Virtual Partner:

Virtual Partner is a cool feature introduced back a few years ago that allows you to race against yourself.  Basically you set a given speed you want to maintain, and then the Garmin device will show a little person representing that speed.  It’ll also show your progress.  If you’re faster than the ‘little man’, it’ll show that.  And if you’re slower, it’ll show that.  It also shows how far ahead/behind you are.

To setup Virtual Partner, you’ll choose a given speed you’d like to maintain – once done, the Virtual Partner screen will appear.  Below is the configuration screen:

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In the Edge 800 though – the user interface gets a significant upgrade which makes it look much much cleaner – complete with nifty animated graphics:

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Workouts/Intervals:

Once you’ve got the basics of the Edge 800 down, you may start to look at planning downloadable workouts.  I often use this feature actually for races more than training.  It helps me to execute on a given race strategy.

You can create workouts using both Garmin Training Center or via the user interface on the device itself.

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Once created, you’ll navigate through the Edge 800’s menu system into the workout area, to start the workout:

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(Because the unit I have is pre-production, there are a few tiny bugs to be worked out still, like the above HR’s lacking the ‘1’ in front of them, as they should be in the hundreds.)

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Once you’ve started the workout, the parameters you’ve specified will be shown on the screen.  Should you stray from the programmed parameters, the unit will beep at you.  The beeping is loud enough that others may believe you’re physically/emotionally harming the unit…so there’s no doubt that you’ll miss the alarms.

Training Indoors:

The Edge 800 supports the ability to train indoors on a trainer, assuming you use the Speed/Cadence sensor and/or Heart Rate Strap.  Any ANT+ speed/cadence sensor will work, though for the purpose of this test, I’m using the standard issue GSC-10 from Garmin.  I’ve manually set the wheel size, but you can also have the unit auto-configure it by doing a quick ride outdoors where it uses GPS to calibrate the size of the wheel.

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When on the bike indoors it’s best to turn the GPS off.  While most modern training applications (including all of Garmin’s) easily notice that it should read sensor data over GPS data, some apps don’t.  This means when you go to load your workout, it shows you went a grand total of nowhere…instead of showing you actual mileage that the wheel recorded. Once you’ve done that – simply go to town and knock out your workout.

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Once done, you’ll see the same speed/cadence/HR/power data that you would outdoors, all on Garmin Connect.

Touch Screen:

If you’ve read my reviews in the past, you’ll know that I’m generally not keen on touch screens in sports devices.  The reasoning being that in most cases, a combination of sweat and fingers never results in ones desired menu options.  Further more, adding in winter accessories like gloves often makes life even more difficult.

So I was a bit apprehensive when I found out that the unit uses a touch screen.   However, one of the first things you’ll notice is it still retains two key buttons for Stop/Start and Lap/Reset – in addition to a power button.  In my mind, this is a fair compromise.  The two buttons I generally use are these two, and I rarely need to change menu’s very much while riding.

Nonetheless – how well does the touch screen handle?  Well, let’s play around with the user interface a bit going through some of the menu’s:

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As you can see from the short video, the unit is surprisingly responsive and seems to pickup my choices pretty quickly (and correctly).  It’s also fairly easy to use while riding, especially just scrolling through the data screens with a single tap or swipe.

The unit features a screen lock, should you want to lock the touch screen itself. That’s activated via the top left side button:

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Of course, a logical question is how does the screen perform if you put on a pair of winter gloves?  Well, I set to find out.  I started with the thinnest pair, and then moved up through the most common cycling gloves to some heavy duty sub-zero style gloves, I then finished it off with a pair of mittens.  Here’s the ever-so-exciting video…try to hold back your excitement while you watch three riveting minutes of glove action – enough to make OJ nervous:

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As you can see, I was able to fairly easily manipulate the menu’s of the device, including both common tasks and those you might need to do quickly – like change display or bike settings.  While there was an occasional ‘typo’, most of those were due to the fact I was trying to watch the lens as the same time.

In short…no problems with gloves.

Mapping via Birdseye Satellite Imagery:

Perhaps the coolest single feature of the Edge 800 is the ability to download Birdseye Satellite Imagery onto it.  Birdseye Imagery is basically the same stuff as you’d get if you went to Google Maps or Bing Maps.  Essentially, the ability to see your house.

The imagery is based on a subscription service, and the price is $29 a year.  This isn’t too bad in my opinion, especially if you use it a lot.  To load the imagery, you’ll utilize a piece of software called Base Camp.  Users of Garmin’s outdoor line of handhelds will be familiar with this software, but for the rest of us runners/cyclists/triathletes – this will be a new piece of software to add to the lineup.

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Base Camp allows you to do route planning – focused heavily on off-road routes like hiking trails or mountain bike trails.  But it also has the capability to add in satellite imagery from Garmin’s Birdseye service.

To add imagery, you simply drill down into the area of interest and then choose to send it to the device.  Note, you can’t send the ‘entire world’, as its rather big and won’t fit on a single micro-SD card, but you can select pretty big chunks that you’d ride.

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From there you simply right click the imagery in the left pane and send it to the device.  I would show you the final resultant, but unfortunately the pre-production device I have isn’t quite in the position to show it off for today’s post – look for a follow-up post on that.

As noted above, the imagery doesn’t come on the unit itself from the store, but you can add it to your unit for $29 a year.  The only caveat I’ve found is that you can only download so much imagery at a time, and while in the past handheld devices designed for hiking limited how far you could realistically travel – with a bike – you go a lot further.  I tried to capture a 30-mile section of Skyline Drive in Shenandoah National Park and the program had a set download limit of about 105MB, smaller than my area of selection.  For this to be a truly useful feature for cyclists, I need to be able to select an area covering hundreds of miles – even if that means it takes a bit of time to download, and a bigger MicroSD card (or more than one).

Mapping via City and Topo Maps:

In addition to the cool Birdseye Satellite Imagery, you can still use standard issue maps and topographical maps that you can purchase from Garmin.  The more expensive of the two Garmin Edge 800 bundles comes with North America City Navigator.  This is important, because the base imagery that Garmin would otherwise provide isn’t terribly useful and doesn’t have many of the streets that you’d likely cycle on.  For me, it pretty much only had Interstate 95, whereas the City Navigator maps had everything including the alley in my back yard.

You have two options when you by City Navigator – one is to buy the DVD and the other is to buy the SD card.  I was sent the SD card, but I also have the DVD version from when I originally bought the Edge 705.  Both work just fine, though the MicroSD card is certainly quicker.

In the case of the MicroSD card (far easier), you simply slide it in the back slot.  It comes with a regular SD card adapter though if you want to update/add to it on your computer.

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Once in the slot the Edge 800 will automatically recognize it and show off the more detailed maps.  Check the below before (left) and after (right):

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You can purchase Garmin detailed maps for just about everywhere on the planet, and, with a bit of creativity you can also create your own maps.

Garmin Custom Maps:

In addition to utilizing downloadable/purchasable maps, you can also create your own maps and upload them to the Edge 800 via Garmin Custom Maps.  This is particularly useful if you have maps that contain additional data not found via common providers.  For example, you may have a map that lists all port-o-john’s in your area (any cyclist/runner knows this is important).  However, for my example I simply grabbed the city’s local bike maps and went to town.  Here’s the initial city provided map I started from:

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While I won’t detail the process fully as it’s well described here, here’s what the half-way mark looks like:

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As I get it all aligned, you can see my city bike map overlayed on the detailed city map.  As you can imagine, this would be incredibly powerful if you have heavily customized maps with waypoints or unique features not normally found on traditional online maps.  For example, water stops, bathrooms, etc.. are all common on race routes, and would be perfect for overlaying into the device.

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And finally, once I’ve loaded it onto my actual device and navigating with it:

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(At this juncture you may be wondering how I got that clear screenshot…well, the Edge 800 includes the ability to simply tap the power button and take .bmp screenshots)

Pretty cool stuff and really gives you (and even event planners) a ton of flexibility.

Navigation:

The Edge 800 has the same navigational features that you’d expect from a car GPS.  For example, it’ll give you turn by turn directions and show you how far until the next turn:

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And you can also go into the menu’s and select POI’s (Points of Interest) – such as food or if you’re feeling tired after that long ride…a hotel.  Or you can simply enter in any street address.  It’s astoundingly quick within the UI, and has auto-complete so that you don’t need to type in the full street addresses or states.

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And if you get off course, it’ll re-calculate you’re route for you in seconds automatically:

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I’ve put together a short clip showing what it looks like if you’re riding and it’s routing.  You’ll have to excuse some of the focus/bumpiness issues.  I was riding while holding a full DSLR camera in one hand and trying to navigate a time trial bike with the other…while dodging squirrels, cars and small kids.  Sometimes sketchiness happens.

I start off the clip showing destination address entry, and then from there we’ll get into the actual riding:

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Yes…I survived the creation of that video – I was pretty happy about that.

Power Meters:

The Edge 800 supports all ANT+ power meters, which includes ones such as the PowerTap Wireless, Quarq Cinqo and SRM power meters.  There are a few more power meters coming in September as well with Interbike that support ANT+.

I use the Quarq Cinqo as my power meter (and love it), which is shown below:

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The Edge 800 has a number of power configuration options on par with the Edge 500 and 705.  This includes the ability to set zero averaging for both cadence and power.

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In addition, you can display a number of power-related fields, including all of the following:

Power Power
%FTP Power
30s Avg.Power
3s Avg.Power
Avg.Power
kJ Power
Lap Power
Max Power
Watts/kG
Power Zone

The recording rate when a power meter is attached is every second, or 1s as it’s commonly written.

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The above is an XML snippet showing the 1s recording while a power meter is attached.  Without a power meter attached it defaults to ‘smart recording’, which on this device is averaging a data point between every 1-4 seconds, which appears to be a bit of an improvement from other devices.

ANT+ Scale Support:

The Edge 800 is the first Edge series device to support ANT+ scales.  Past Edge devices haven’t, only the Forerunner 310XT and Forerunner 60 have supported the ANT+ scales that are out on the market.  These scales wirelessly communicate your weight and body fat information to the Garmin device, which in turn gets uploaded to Garmin Connect.  Today’s most common ANT+ scale is the Tanita BC-1000 – which I reviewed back in the winter.

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To scan for scales, you simply go into the menu system and select Weight Scale.  From there, it’ll initiate the ANT+ search.

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Once it finds the scale, the green scale light will illuminate and you can go ahead and step on it. The scale will take your weight, and then communicate it back to the Edge 800.

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The Edge 800 will then upload that data to Garmin Connect, where you can track your weight related information over time.

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Software:

I typically get into the software a bit more in my In Depth Reviews of products, but I’ll cover the basics here on the first look review.  The Edge 800 connects using a USB cable and shows up like any other mass storage device:

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Once connected, you can go ahead and launch Garmin’s free online site – Garmin Connect – to analyze your ride data.  The site will allow you to upload directly from the unit.  The unit itself can record a crap-ton of data.  On my Edge 500 (similar storage size) I have almost a year’s worth of rides on there and I’m only a few percent full.  So no worries about running out of space.

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After the upload has completed – and it only takes a few seconds – your activities are shown by date in both a calendar, list and dashboard view.  You can select them to get more detailed information about that activity.

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On the left side you’ll see summary information, while on the right you have graphs for each of the major sensor and data types:

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Garmin Connect is a good option for beginner to intermediate users looking to analyze their data.  However, for more advanced users I’d recommend a program like WKO+, Sport Tracks, or Training Peaks.  The Edge 800 utilizes the newer Garmin .FIT file format, and all three of those applications (latest versions) support the .FIT file format.  Personally, I use both Sport Tracks and Training Peaks daily.  Training Peaks easily uploads the files using their free Device Agent (or just via the web uploader).

I prefer Training Peaks because of some of the power meter analysis you can do, as well as some of the longer range trending that’s easier/possible to do than on Garmin Connect.  TP has both a free and premium version.

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It should be noted that the Edge 800 is also supported via the old school Garmin Training Center (free) – should you want a basic desktop application.  But, Garmin really isn’t updating this app much any more and is only used for some basic functions.

Also note that if you plan to utilize imagery from Birdseye, remember that you’ll need Basecamp – which is also free from Garmin.

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Finally, all this stuff works great on a Mac as well, if you’re of that persuasion:

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Accessories:

The Edge 800 supports all of the major ANT+ accessories out there.  This means you can utilize any existing Speed/Cadence/HR/Power Meter sensors you have without having to by any new ones.  Plus, any of the non-Garmin ANT+ sensors that are coming out on the market (or already there) are also supported.

Here’s a quick hit list of the major sensors:

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This sensor allows you to use the Edge 800 indoors on a trainer, as well as records cadence information outdoors.  Additionally, you can increase your accuracy a hair if you use the speed sensor outdoors (automatically occurs actually).

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Heart Rate Strap-

Depending on which version you pickup, the unit will either come with the Premium ANT+ Heart Rate Soft Strap, or it’ll require you to pick on up.  You can utilize any existing ANT+ strap (such as one from an older Garmin unit), but it does have to be ANT+.  Meaning, a strap from a Polar or similar unit won’t work.

Garmin today itself offers two straps – one is the classic strap, and the other is the newer ‘Premium Soft Strap’.  However, an even newer premium strap has also been tossed into the mix.  This one looks very much like the Polar Wearlink Strap and is oddly enough ‘licensed’ from an unnamed organization.  Garmin had no comment on who it was licensed from.

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Note that the Edge 800 bundle includes the newer premium soft strap HR monitor, which is different than the older soft strap one.  This new strap may resolve some of the issues of the existing soft strap, but more testing is in order – it will be available as a standalone strap ‘later this year’.  I just wrote up a good post earlier this week on a workaround for the older one, as well as a much longer post on other tricks to try.

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The Edge 800 will pair easily with any ANT+ power meter.  I have the Quarq Cinqo and it recorded data from it without issue.  PowerTap, SRM, and Quarq all make ANT+ compatible power meters.  And there are a few others coming on the market here in the coming weeks leading up to Interbike.  See the previous section on more details on power meter configuration options.

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ANT+ Scale (Tanita BC-1000)-

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Extra Mounts:

As noted earlier, you can pickup a box of extra mounts for about $9.  This box includes two full sets of mounts, and a million extra rubber bands.  By far, the cheapest cycling product you’ll probably ever buy.

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Maps, maps and more maps:

Because the Edge 800 supports both topographical and city imagery, as well as satellite imagery, there’s a ton of different mapping products you can buy for it.  You can also create your own maps using some 3rd party tools.  In my limited time with the product I haven’t had a chance to dig into compatibility quite yet, but I’ll do so for my final in depth review.  In the meantime, here’s the basic different maps offered:

- Birdseye Imagery: $29 a year

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- Downloadable/DVD/MicroSD card maps: Price varies from $80-$100’s one-time cost

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Summary:

In summary, this device rocks.  It’s everything that most cyclist have been asking for – even if they didn’t know they were asking for it.  I love the new mapping capabilities as it bridges the gap from hard to decipher street maps, to crystal clear satellite imagery.  The ability to create custom maps is really really cool, and I’m looking forward to folks whipping up some relevant maps for cyclists and longer races.  Plus – and perhaps most importantly - my fiancée has immediately decided she wants one…now.

However, I do question the ability for the Garmin Edge series to compete long term with cell phones.  Over the last 12 months the number of cell phone based applications that effectively do large portions of what the Edge 800 does has grown.  While the Edge 800 adds functionality around custom maps and offline caching of large satellite image tile sets that is difficult to find on phones today, it is an area that competitors will rapidly catch up on.  I was hoping that the next generation Edge device would include some sort of connectivity to allow updates to Internet based infrastructure – such as Live position tracking – helping it to compete with phones that also have ANT+ integration.

That said – for a purely dedicated cycling computer, there’s nothing like it today.  And that includes the phone world.  There is no phone/app combo I’m aware of that does all of the features that the Edge 800 does from complex mapping and navigation to ANT+ data integration.

The Garmin Edge 800 will be available in mid-October with the following pricing:

-  Black/White Edge 800 is $449.99 (with AC adapter, quarter-turn Mount, USB cable)
- Black/Blue Edge 800 Performance and Navigation bundle is $649.99 (Adds newer Premium Soft-strap Heart Rate Monitor, Speed/Cadence sensor and City Navigator Maps on MicroSD)

If you’re looking at some of the other Edge series line, I’ve put together this quick comparison chart.  When comparing between the Edge 705 and the Edge 800 – I see no reason to purchase the Edge 705 at this point, and as such, I’ve updated my 2010 GPS recommendations to instead focus on the Edge 800 over the Edge 705.  If you comparing between the Edge 500 and the Edge 800 – they serve two different markets with one focusing on slim and sleek and the other focusing on navigation.

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No review would be complete without the Pro’s and Con’s list – so here I present the time honored tradition:

Pro’s:

- Easy to use and small form factor
- Compatible with all major online/offline training applications
- Supports ANT+ accessories
- Improved virtual partner feature
- Use of satellite maps
- Creation of custom maps
- Very quick touch screen UI
- You can take screenshots by holding the power key
- You can change the background to both custom and pre-set images

Con’s:

- Wireless data transfer to other units removed
- Unclear on touch screen long term use with gloves in winter
- Not ‘connected’ to the Internet, no options for live data updating (like cell phone)
- Unable to get large satellite map sets onto device due to download limiters set

So with that – start saving your pennies!

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Edge 800 w/o Heart Rate Strap – $449
Edge 800 with Heart Rate Strap and Speed/Cadence Sensor – $649

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Accessory Item/Description

Price

Edge 800 Base Unit

$449

Edge 800 Base Unit + Heart Rate Monitor + Speed/Cadence

$649

Heart Rate Strap (Classic Strap)

$25

Heart Rate Strap (Premium Soft Strap)

$45

ANT+ Cycling Speed/Cadence Sensor

$35

Quick mount kits

$10

US City Navigator Maps - DVD

$66

US City Navigator Maps - MicroSD Card (I recommend this)

$66

US Topo Maps – by region on DVD

$80

Power Meters (PowerTap Wireless)

$899

Tanita BC-1000 Scale (my in depth review here)

$279

Finally, I’ve written up a ton of helpful guides around using most of the Garmin fitness devices, which you may find useful.  These guides are all listed on this page here.

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